Topic: Claymore&#039;s Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux) - page 285. (Read 6590565 times)

Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM

Quote from: janding on March 30, 2018, 11:53:29 PM

phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo

Yes, you are correct.
I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65%
Just about evens out on that front.

Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer....

Stales mostly depend on the pool's luck. Try running them side by side on similar machines for 24-48h, and then check the stales.

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Quote from: janding on March 30, 2018, 11:34:49 PM

Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 11:33:02 PM

Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM

Quote from: janding on March 30, 2018, 11:34:49 PM

phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo

Yes, you are correct.
I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65%
Just about evens out on that front.

Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer....

on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2

Is that number from the pool or the display in the miner window ?

Edit:
Never mind I see you said it was reported by Phoenix.
Here is the truth about that number.
It is totally worthless. The miner has almost no idea if a share was stale at the pool.
Phoenix even states that if you read all the post's from them about that number.
Trouble is, few actually read more than one page back in a thread.

They rarely mention it because they don't want everyone to know or remember that little fact.
So, everyone sees that and accepts it is the actual stale share rate. I've brought that up to them on
multiple occasions.

In the miner window this is how that message should read:

The stale share number about to be displayed is fictional and is presented for entertainment purposes only.
Your actual stale share rate can only be know at the pool, not in the miner.
Please ignore the above message an tell everyone that this is my stale share rate.

https://www.ethermine.org/miners/a57EeFabb76Bfd1E9E6ee606999b76BD123aFe32/worker/marvell9-117

it says 3% at the pool so yeah the miner lies, I just upgraded to the new phonenix , seema i was on 2.7c
ill check stales in 24 hrs

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Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 11:33:02 PM

Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM

Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 11:33:02 PM

phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo

Yes, you are correct.
I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65%
Just about evens out on that front.

Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer....

on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2

Is that number from the pool or the display in the miner window ?

Edit:
Never mind I see you said it was reported by Phoenix.
Here is the truth about that number.
It is totally worthless. The miner has almost no idea if a share was stale at the pool.
Phoenix even states that if you read all the post's from them about that number.
Trouble is, few actually read more than one page back in a thread.

They rarely mention it because they don't want everyone to know or remember that little fact.
So, everyone sees that and accepts it is the actual stale share rate. I've brought that up to them on
multiple occasions.

In the miner window this is how that message should read:

The stale share number about to be displayed is fictional and is presented for entertainment purposes only.
Your actual stale share rate can only be know at the pool, not in the miner.
Please ignore the above message an tell everyone that this is my stale share rate.

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Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM

phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo

Yes, you are correct.
I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65%
Just about evens out on that front.

Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer....

on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2

Is that number from the pool or the display in the miner window ?

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Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM

Quote from: prostor on March 30, 2018, 04:39:44 PM

phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo

Yes, you are correct.
I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65%
Just about evens out on that front.

Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer....

on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2

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Quote from: Claymore on April 11, 2016, 11:30:36 AM

Claymore's Dual Ethereum + Decred/Siacoin/Lbry/Pascal/Blake2s/Keccak AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner.
=========================

Latest version is v11.6:

- improved hashrate for weak Nvidia cards by about 1%.
- zero devfee for 3GB cards in Windows 10, same as for all 2GB cards.
- applied some tricks to increase available memory for 3GB cards in Windows 10 so you can mine ETH a bit longer.
- now you can press "y" key to turn on "Compute Mode" in AMD drivers for all cards (Windows only).
- Linux version: removed openssl library dependency.
- improved "-logfile" option, now you can use it to specify a folder for log files, use slash at the end to do it, for example, "-logfile logs\".
- added "-epoolsfile" and "-dpoolsfile" options.
- remote management: now "miner_getstat2" command also returns PCI bus index for every GPU.
- a few minor bug fixes and improvements.

But where is the Claymore's CryptoNight AMD GPU Miner update???

this is a piderast, while quote all post

and you do the same, you two deserve a kick in the @ss! Cheesy

Hey @Maxmidnite, there is a Search Box on the upper right side of the forum, its somewhat useful

Like this one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2

but if you are looking for an update, I guess its in Claymore's waiting list

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Upgraded to 11.6 on my nvidia rig. But there is no difference in Linux. 6 x 1060 3gb and 2 x 1050 ti.

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Thanks for the nice update to 11.6, Mr. Claymore!

On another note - Im sure most, if not all of you might find this info important.

Please vote to help keep Ethereum and hopefully other Ethash coins ASIC resistant. I'm sure Claymore wont mind that I bring this up in his thread.

Please log into github (make an account if you have to) and hit the thumbs up button.

https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/958

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Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM

Quote from: big al on March 30, 2018, 08:12:08 PM

phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo

Yes, you are correct.
I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65%
Just about evens out on that front.

Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer....

janding

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How do you guys figure? The stale shares are 2-6% more yet the devfee is only 0.35% higher.

184.5 x 97.02% = 179 claymore
184.2 x 95.376% = 175.7 Phoenix high
184.2 x 91.4% = 168.4 Phoenix low

Can't argue with that.
I was simply saying it about equals out becaue of the lower fee.
Phoenix would have to produce a higher hash rate on the same number of cards to over come the higher stale rate as you have shown.

That's one reason I'm staying with Claymore.

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Quote from: big al on March 30, 2018, 08:12:08 PM

How do you guys figure? The stale shares are 2-6% more yet the devfee is only 0.35% higher.

If the pool you are mining at pays something for stale shares ( Ethermine pays .65% for a stale share ) then
you loose .35% for every stale share. But if the miner is only charging you .65% instead of 1% then it helps overcome the stale share loss.

However, if you mine where the pool does not pay anything for a stale share then it's really bad to have many stale shares.
Some pools pay something for stales, others do not. I don't know the list of which do or don't except for Ethermine.

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How do you guys figure? The stale shares are 2-6% more yet the devfee is only 0.35% higher.

184.5 x 97.02% = 179 claymore
184.2 x 95.376% = 175.7 Phoenix high
184.2 x 91.4% = 168.4 Phoenix low

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Quote from: Marvell2 on March 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM

phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo

Yes, you are correct.
I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65%
Just about evens out on that front.

Marvell2

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