Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux) - page 583.

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Quote from: whatomine on September 25, 2017, 12:17:55 PM

Yes, the power usage isn't as good if you dual mine... But if you were mining DCR and holding it back then... It's worth $34 or so now, instead of $9.

DCR is a great coin with a lot of potential. I still have "some" rigs dual mining DCR.

Most people dual mine and do whatever is profitable at that moment. They don't analyze the potential for the coin long term.

we should mine for the highest current profit but at the same time trade for the highest potential.
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Or just mine what you believe is going to be most profitable in the future and hodl.

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Yes, the power usage isn't as good if you dual mine... But if you were mining DCR and holding it back then... It's worth $34 or so now, instead of $9.

DCR is a great coin with a lot of potential. I still have "some" rigs dual mining DCR.

Most people dual mine and do whatever is profitable at that moment. They don't analyze the potential for the coin long term.
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we should mine for the highest current profit but at the same time trade for the highest potential.

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Quote from: fittsy on September 25, 2017, 10:35:28 AM

Quote from: bardacuda on September 25, 2017, 02:45:55 AM

Those numbers are for mining ETH only though. I'm not sure what kind of load or voltage it takes to dual mine, but the last time I tried it (way back when Claymore first implemented it for DCR only) it was way too high. With ETH only the cards are running @ 850 - 925mV @ 1220MHz on the core.

Yes, the power usage isn't as good if you dual mine... But if you were mining DCR and holding it back then... It's worth $34 or so now, instead of $9.

DCR is a great coin with a lot of potential. I still have "some" rigs dual mining DCR.

Most people dual mine and do whatever is profitable at that moment. They don't analyze the potential for the coin long term.

You can mine more profitable coin and then buy the DCR. But we are lazy.

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Quote from: fittsy on September 25, 2017, 10:35:28 AM

Quote from: bardacuda on September 25, 2017, 02:45:55 AM

Those numbers are for mining ETH only though. I'm not sure what kind of load or voltage it takes to dual mine, but the last time I tried it (way back when Claymore first implemented it for DCR only) it was way too high. With ETH only the cards are running @ 850 - 925mV @ 1220MHz on the core.

Yes, the power usage isn't as good if you dual mine... But if you were mining DCR and holding it back then... It's worth $34 or so now, instead of $9.

DCR is a great coin with a lot of potential. I still have "some" rigs dual mining DCR.

Most people dual mine and do whatever is profitable at that moment. They don't analyze the potential for the coin long term.

I see both sides of the coin (see what I did there?) but in my own experience going for the long term has proven to be more valuable.
I agree with you on regarding Decred, I think it will have a jump to going near current Monero prices in the not too long future.

--ypsi

I get that, I'm just trying to help dude figure out why his power consumption his high and provide some numbers for context. The fact that I was afraid of burning out the VRMs on my only cards a year ago is not the point.

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Quote from: bardacuda on September 25, 2017, 02:45:55 AM

Those numbers are for mining ETH only though. I'm not sure what kind of load or voltage it takes to dual mine, but the last time I tried it (way back when Claymore first implemented it for DCR only) it was way too high. With ETH only the cards are running @ 850 - 925mV @ 1220MHz on the core.

Yes, the power usage isn't as good if you dual mine... But if you were mining DCR and holding it back then... It's worth $34 or so now, instead of $9.

DCR is a great coin with a lot of potential. I still have "some" rigs dual mining DCR.

Most people dual mine and do whatever is profitable at that moment. They don't analyze the potential for the coin long term.

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Quote from: tf2addict on September 24, 2017, 01:33:13 PM

Quote from: swalayan on September 24, 2017, 08:04:34 AM

Quote from: peroz on September 24, 2017, 07:29:28 AM

-tt not working properly. I have cards that produce very different amounts of heat, and turn their fans seemingly without any logic. I even have a RX460 that has 32°C and 90% fan. Anything I could do about it? Setting fan speed doesn't work either, not from claymore bat file nor from wattman.

set fan using watttool, work for me.

Watttool doesn't support the 5xx series does it?

Exactly. Plus, it is really hard to get it without subscribing to yet another forum. If anyone has one, can I please get it, because it would help a lot even if I reduced the fan on the rx460.

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Any speed improvements with blockchain driver over older ones?

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Is there a guide somewhere about running both AMD and NVIDIA cards on the same motherboard on linux? I have the B250 expert 19 slot board, but it can't hold more than 13 NVIDIA cards, so I was planning to go for AMD, but I just am not sure how to get that all set up.

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Quote from: igotfits on September 24, 2017, 02:56:00 AM

Quote from: jang430 on September 24, 2017, 02:36:08 AM

Is there a limit for Claymore miner 10? I'm mining ETH. I have 5 GTX 1070s, and 6 RX 580s. 5 GTX and more than 3 RX hangs. On the other hand, 5 RX and 4 GTX works fine. Adding 1 more GTX hangs. Anyone have idea on this?

post your build specs

Hi. Please see specs below:

Asrock H110 Pro BTC+ motherboard. It has 13 slots.
2x Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580s, 8 GB Hynix
4x Gigabyte Aorus RX 580s, 8 GB Hynix
5x Palit Jetstream GTX 1070, 8 GB Hynix
2x 4 GB Kingston memory
Celeron G3930 processor
2 HP DPS 1200 FB PSU
1 old ATX 230 watts psu, to power the board with 2 molex pins

Edit--- I also found out right now that I'm getting memory error, cannot write to DAG or something. I changed my Virtual memory from 16G to 32G, and the problem went away. Could this be related? What should be the correct Virtual memory size for 11 GPUs? But as shared, plugging in 1 additional GTX to the existing 4, hangs the system, and not just mining errors.

HOpe someone can point the problem area.

Thanks!

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Quote from: Skol600ml on September 24, 2017, 05:47:04 PM

Quote from: Vann on September 24, 2017, 01:37:48 PM

Quote from: tf2addict on September 24, 2017, 01:23:48 PM

Quote from: Vann on September 24, 2017, 11:13:58 AM

Quote from: whatomine on September 24, 2017, 10:55:39 AM

Can anyone comment on the power consumption for the RX580 cards. I have two rigs each has 6 RX580 and both are dual mining ETH+LBC (Eth: 176 Mh/s + LBC: 510 Mh/s). Each rig consumes about 1020 Watts reading from the wall-meter while GPU-Z reads less than 130 Watts for each card. I think they should all be around 6*130 + 70(system) ~ 850 Watts total. My setting (-cclock 1150 + -mclock 2100 -cvddc 870 -mvddc 870)

The power usage shown in GPU-Z is for the card VGA power connectors. You also need to add 40-50W for each riser. 1000-1100 W is about right for a six card RX 580 rig when dual mining.

The risers themselves do NOT use anywhere close to even 40W. The power load for risers is negligible even with six of them. It's the GPUs themselves that are using the power.

I don't think the power sensors in GPUs are all that accurate anyway plus they fluctuate so wildly.

I have switched all my RX BIOSes to Anorak's powersave versions. I lose about 3-5% hash rate but it saves almost that much in power and reduces heat output and wear on the cards.

When I see 6 GPUs consuming over 1000W and then I look at an Antminer that can produce 4x more revenue on 1200W I wonder why I'm even bothering with GPUs...

You are wrong. powered risers use between 40W - 50 W each, which is NOT reported in GPU-Z. This is easy to verify in a dual PSU setup like I have where all the risers are connected to the same PSU as the motherboard and the secondary PSU only powers the tops of the cards.

The risers don't use energy itself. it just feed the GPU just like a PCI-E slot. Memory energy consumption is missing on GPU-z that is why is higher on the wall.

I think the power consumption drawn from the PCIE slot is missing from the GPUZ.

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I have a 4 card rig (2x 570 & 2x 580) with a bronze PSU that consumes ~580W at the wall. When the system is idling it consumes about 80W, so it's taking about 125W per card. With a more efficient power supply it could be 115W/card or less.

GPU-Z and afterburner report between 80 - 90 W each, but that only accounts for what the core uses and not efficiency losses or memory subsystem.

Those numbers are for mining ETH only though. I'm not sure what kind of load or voltage it takes to dual mine, but the last time I tried it (way back when Claymore first implemented it for DCR only) it was way too high. With ETH only the cards are running @ 850 - 925mV @ 1220MHz on the core.

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Quote from: Vann on September 24, 2017, 04:58:41 AM

Quote from: johndoe2 on September 24, 2017, 04:26:55 AM

Quote from: SummersideGuy on September 18, 2017, 09:47:50 AM

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Quote from: johndoe2 on September 18, 2017, 06:13:47 AM

I'm selling my Gtx 1060s because they are not very good at mining. Whether it was the Hynix memory, or the bad components used, I only got 17Mh/s out of each card after OCing without touching the voltage. I cut my fingers twice with the fan blades, and whenever the network difficulty changes some of the cards hashrates drops to 1Mhs. I'm getting 22 Mhs from 570 8Gb and want to know how to increase hashrate other than increasing the memory clock, thanks.

Just get out now while you still can. Those GPU's going to start taking toes. Shocked

Stop takin a P00P at him Tongue

To the OP : Look up Bios modding, your 580 8GB should be able to get 29mh easy peasy at low overclocks.

His "570 8GB" should hit 29.5 with alt ethash coins or 29 if he is using windows 10+ Claymore 10 + Blockchain drivers. Also dual mining LBR he should get about 65 mh's with LBR or about 730 with DCR
All he has to do is A. Up the memory clock B. Run Polaris 1.64 and click the Memory Timing button to load the specific memory timing for the card. Nice new feature of the Polaris fork" and he is good to go, Also I would put the following in the Start.bat for his 570 -cclock 1175 -mclock 2050 -cvddc 900 mvddc 900 -dcri 20 (with LBR) -dcri 25 (with Decred)

Where do you put the cvddc settings, at the beginning of the file or the end? And also can you undervolt Nvidia cards too?

It makes no difference where you put it in the command line. As noted in the Claymore README, Nvidia cards don't support undevolting. You can adust the power limit % on Nvidia cards using Afterburner in Windows, which reduces the power consumption target when set at a negative value.

I put this in the Bat file, it seems the voltages have gone down but I didn't see much difference in Gpu-Z for the 570. Maybe it's because I have apply oc settings on Afterburner.

Quote from: Vann on September 24, 2017, 01:37:48 PM

Quote from: tf2addict on September 24, 2017, 01:23:48 PM

Quote from: Vann on September 24, 2017, 11:13:58 AM

Quote from: whatomine on September 24, 2017, 10:55:39 AM

Can anyone comment on the power consumption for the RX580 cards. I have two rigs each has 6 RX580 and both are dual mining ETH+LBC (Eth: 176 Mh/s + LBC: 510 Mh/s). Each rig consumes about 1020 Watts reading from the wall-meter while GPU-Z reads less than 130 Watts for each card. I think they should all be around 6*130 + 70(system) ~ 850 Watts total. My setting (-cclock 1150 + -mclock 2100 -cvddc 870 -mvddc 870)

The power usage shown in GPU-Z is for the card VGA power connectors. You also need to add 40-50W for each riser. 1000-1100 W is about right for a six card RX 580 rig when dual mining.

The risers themselves do NOT use anywhere close to even 40W. The power load for risers is negligible even with six of them. It's the GPUs themselves that are using the power.

I don't think the power sensors in GPUs are all that accurate anyway plus they fluctuate so wildly.

I have switched all my RX BIOSes to Anorak's powersave versions. I lose about 3-5% hash rate but it saves almost that much in power and reduces heat output and wear on the cards.

When I see 6 GPUs consuming over 1000W and then I look at an Antminer that can produce 4x more revenue on 1200W I wonder why I'm even bothering with GPUs...

You are wrong. powered risers use between 40W - 50 W each, which is NOT reported in GPU-Z. This is easy to verify in a dual PSU setup like I have where all the risers are connected to the same PSU as the motherboard and the secondary PSU only powers the tops of the cards.

I can relate to this, I have a 1500W PSU cable and my multimedia PC plugged into the same outlet. The building manager said anything over 2000W from one electrical outlet will trip the breaker. I think sometimes the power consumption spikes, and when I dual mined on my mining rig which has 2 PSUs, the circuit breaker tripped within a minute or so.

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Quote from: syraka76 on September 24, 2017, 11:17:08 PM

I noticed that hashrates is not stable, from 29 mhs, it goes down to 19, 21mhs, then back to 29mhs, the problem and it does it continuously, so the speed is not always stable

yes most people have this problem.. me too

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I noticed that hashrates is not stable, from 29 mhs, it goes down to 19, 21mhs, then back to 29mhs, the problem and it does it continuously, so the speed is not always stable

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Just went back to page one to verify and asia1.eth was taken off the list due to problems if I remember right. I have been inadvertently using eth.eu1.nanopool and have a rock solid connect with them. Notice you use ethermine but hey, thats why we have choices.

thay

Quote from: mnbv172 on September 23, 2017, 06:16:22 AM

Hi, How can I setup epools.txt for https://ethermine.org

? I have Failover every 4 hours and need change server Huh

POOL: asia1.ethermine.org:14444, WALLET: 0x062d898727f37b601f2882e6d62b7f9c73884a60.mnbv/[email protected], PSW: x, WORKER: , ESM: 0, ALLPOOLS: 0

is that right?

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Quote from: deejaywolf on September 24, 2017, 01:59:14 AM

I have rig with 4x RX580 Nitro+ 8GB.
Yesterday I installed AMD Blockchain drivers and my hashrate raised from 26MH/s to 31MH/s.
I am dualmining ETH + SIA.
It is fine, but power consumption raised too. Entire rig pulls about 650W now and after cca 12hrs crashes, but shares are 100%.
What settings do you have? I use cvddc a mvddc at 850, gpu 1250MHz, ram 2200MHz.

Nvoc?

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Quote from: Vann on September 24, 2017, 01:37:48 PM

Quote from: tf2addict on September 24, 2017, 01:23:48 PM

Quote from: Vann on September 24, 2017, 11:13:58 AM

Quote from: whatomine on September 24, 2017, 10:55:39 AM

Can anyone comment on the power consumption for the RX580 cards. I have two rigs each has 6 RX580 and both are dual mining ETH+LBC (Eth: 176 Mh/s + LBC: 510 Mh/s). Each rig consumes about 1020 Watts reading from the wall-meter while GPU-Z reads less than 130 Watts for each card. I think they should all be around 6*130 + 70(system) ~ 850 Watts total. My setting (-cclock 1150 + -mclock 2100 -cvddc 870 -mvddc 870)

The power usage shown in GPU-Z is for the card VGA power connectors. You also need to add 40-50W for each riser. 1000-1100 W is about right for a six card RX 580 rig when dual mining.

The risers themselves do NOT use anywhere close to even 40W. The power load for risers is negligible even with six of them. It's the GPUs themselves that are using the power.

I don't think the power sensors in GPUs are all that accurate anyway plus they fluctuate so wildly.

I have switched all my RX BIOSes to Anorak's powersave versions. I lose about 3-5% hash rate but it saves almost that much in power and reduces heat output and wear on the cards.

When I see 6 GPUs consuming over 1000W and then I look at an Antminer that can produce 4x more revenue on 1200W I wonder why I'm even bothering with GPUs...

You are wrong. powered risers use between 40W - 50 W each, which is NOT reported in GPU-Z. This is easy to verify in a dual PSU setup like I have where all the risers are connected to the same PSU as the motherboard and the secondary PSU only powers the tops of the cards.

The risers don't use energy itself. it just feed the GPU just like a PCI-E slot. Memory energy consumption is missing on GPU-z that is why is higher on the wall.

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i want to use 1 card to 5-10% devfee, and other 4 cards to 0% devfee
it can raise effect of work.

how can i configure devfee options? not . no about no devfee.
I know it cannot be disabled. but maybe it can be reconfigured?
about known problem:
for switching to devpool and return it takes time for recreating DAG files.
it does with all cards in rig.

I have 5x1060 cards with 3GB. DAG size about 2.5Gb now.

On other miner i test option fee 100% and it works. (card work only for devfee)
on Claymore i cannot set fee option.

Of course setting all for 0 can keep exist solusion with disable some functions etc...

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Quote from: insaniak on September 24, 2017, 02:49:06 PM

Quote from: P00P135 on September 24, 2017, 02:43:02 PM

Quote from: insaniak on September 24, 2017, 02:38:43 PM

Im using 8 GTX 1070 GPUS and have set page file to 16000mb im getting this error: can someone help please

UDA error - cannot allocate big buffer for DAG. Check readme.txt for possible solutions.
CUDA error - cannot allocate big buffer for DAG. Check readme.txt for possible solutions.
Setting DAG epoch #143 for GPU0
GPU 0 failed
GPU 0, CUDA error 11 - cannot write buffer for DAG
GPU 7 failed
Setting DAG epoch #143 for GPU7
GPU 7, CUDA error 11 - cannot write buffer for DAG

try 32,000 pagefile.

worked thanks, why does it have to be higher thats crazy.

I'm not sure but I think it has to do with the more GPU's you have the more pagefile you need.

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Quote from: insaniak on September 24, 2017, 02:38:43 PM

Im using 8 GTX 1070 GPUS and have set page file to 16000mb im getting this error: can someone help please

UDA error - cannot allocate big buffer for DAG. Check readme.txt for possible solutions.
CUDA error - cannot allocate big buffer for DAG. Check readme.txt for possible solutions.
Setting DAG epoch #143 for GPU0
GPU 0 failed
GPU 0, CUDA error 11 - cannot write buffer for DAG
GPU 7 failed
Setting DAG epoch #143 for GPU7
GPU 7, CUDA error 11 - cannot write buffer for DAG

Try setting the PCI-E slots to GEN 2 in the motherboard Bios.

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