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Hi guys!
I have RX 480 (x6). Each card gives about 175 H/s for Zcash.
Question: is it possible to increase the speed?

yes its easy, buy more cards  Grin
legendary
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... with stupid flashing lights...

You can turn those off.
does it require their special software to do that if so it's not going to happen since the rig is mixed card manufacturer.

I have a crap load of XFX RX480's with these bright ass stupid lights as well. I wish I could them off. Just a waste of power.
i have two xfx rx480s and they have no lights Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Hi guys!
I have RX 480 (x6). Each card gives about 175 H/s for Zcash.
Question: is it possible to increase the speed?
newbie
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... with stupid flashing lights...

You can turn those off.
does it require their special software to do that if so it's not going to happen since the rig is mixed card manufacturer.

I have a crap load of XFX RX480's with these bright ass stupid lights as well. I wish I could them off. Just a waste of power.
sr. member
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... with stupid flashing lights...

You can turn those off.
does it require their special software to do that if so it's not going to happen since the rig is mixed card manufacturer.
I haven't looked at the Radeon Settings yet, but you can do it with Sapphire Trixx.
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Memory bandwidth:

RX480: 256 GB/s
390X: 384 GB/s

ZEC uses a lot of memory operations. Do you still think that RX480 can work as fast as 390X?
my 390x claim to have a 512 gb bandwidth  have i been lied to by the manufactures  Grin Grin Grin
Edit: i thoguth that the 7950"s have 384 gb bandwidth

You're thinking of memory bus, 512 bit.  
here i thought  memory bandwidth pertain to memory bus Cheesy

It does pertain to the bus, but is not equivalent to the bus. Bandwidth is the product of bus width and memory clock speed.

512 bits / 8 = 64 Bytes
64 Bytes * (1500 MHz * 4) = 384GB/s

I'm running two reference 290's at 400h/s at 1030/1250 -100mv core -100mv aux 0 power level. Fans are now at 50-55% at 85C, this is inside of a Corsair 750D.

I need to put a kill-a-watt on it but it's made a significant difference on the temp with only a 20h/s loss. That's the highest core I can get to at the moment, stable.

Stock BIOS, should I load in the 390 STILT's bios?

 One of TheStilt bios for the R9 290 should let you kick the temps down quite a bit while still bumping the clocks up some.
 On ETH I'm routinely seeing 80C more or less at 1100/1250 under LINUX though I'm running the fans a bit higher than you are.
 

Thanks it means R9 290 and 390 have same speed with big price difference ?

390s can have a bit higher memory clock (and 8GB instead of the usual 4 on a 290) but are otherwise the same.

Today Claymore said
He likes 390-390X the most and he is going to reach 300H/s on stock clocks..
Hows this possible on stock clock on 390

Because they are already doing 230S/s+ and he is going to add more optimization.
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can you guys share their speeds on stock setting of MSI R9 390 Gigabyte R9 390 Sapphire R9 390 and XFX R9 390 all 8GB
again stock setting no OC no modded bios please.

Thanks


well i have msi r9 390x2 with the stupid lights and all they produce about 215/225 Hs each no nothing, and 3x r9 390 asus with stupid flashing lights performing about the same 215/225 each card for what is worth.

Today Claymore said
He likes 390-390X the most and he is going to reach 300H/s on stock clocks..
Hows this possible on stock clock on 390
legendary
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... with stupid flashing lights...

You can turn those off.
does it require their special software to do that if so it's not going to happen since the rig is mixed card manufacturer.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1037
6.25 ---> 3.125
can you guys share their speeds on stock setting of MSI R9 390 Gigabyte R9 390 Sapphire R9 390 and XFX R9 390 all 8GB
again stock setting no OC no modded bios please.

Thanks


well i have msi r9 390x2 with the stupid lights and all they produce about 215/225 Hs each no nothing, and 3x r9 390 asus with stupid flashing lights performing about the same 215/225 each card for what is worth.

Thanks it means R9 290 and 390 have same speed with big price difference ?
absofuckenlutly and the 290x is practically the same
Edit; Oh and the 290's don't have the stupid lights Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
... with stupid flashing lights...

You can turn those off.

absofuckenlutly lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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... with stupid flashing lights...

You can turn those off.
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What is the best setting (modded bios setting and overclock setting) for RX 470 & rx 480 to produce the lowest Watt : hash ratio OR the highest Hash : Watt ratio?

Mine is (i'm not sure if my setting is good enough), but here the number:


RX 470 8GB memory type samsung, asic quality 63.2% (according to GPU-Z)

Setting: bios strap 1750, core clock = 1300, memory clock = 2000, GPU voltage -108mv (on sapphire trixx)
Result: 162 H/s, power consumption around 130 W on the wall,  87 Watt average in GPU-Z ===> ratio hash:power = 1.24 H/watt

RX 480 4GB, memory type Hynix, asic quality 77.5%

Setting : bios strap 1500, core clock 1300, memory 1750, GPU voltage -78mv (sapphire trixx)
Result:  166 H/s, power consumption 118 W on the wall, 76 W on GPU-Z ==> ratio 1.40 H/watt



Care to share your result?

any advice is highly appreciated.. I still toying with the setting once in a while now..


legendary
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can you guys share their speeds on stock setting of MSI R9 390 Gigabyte R9 390 Sapphire R9 390 and XFX R9 390 all 8GB
again stock setting no OC no modded bios please.

Thanks


well i have msi r9 390x2 with the stupid lights and all they produce about 215/225 Hs each no nothing, and 3x r9 390 asus with stupid flashing lights performing about the same 215/225 each card for what is worth.

Thanks it means R9 290 and 390 have same speed with big price difference ?
absofuckenlutly and the 290x is practically the same
Edit; Oh and the 290's don't have the stupid lights Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1666
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6.25 ---> 3.125
can you guys share their speeds on stock setting of MSI R9 390 Gigabyte R9 390 Sapphire R9 390 and XFX R9 390 all 8GB
again stock setting no OC no modded bios please.

Thanks


well i have msi r9 390x2 with the stupid lights and all they produce about 215/225 Hs each no nothing, and 3x r9 390 asus with stupid flashing lights performing about the same 215/225 each card for what is worth.

I'm running two reference 290's at 400h/s at 1030/1250 -100mv core -100mv aux 0 power level. Fans are now at 50-55% at 85C, this is inside of a Corsair 750D.

I need to put a kill-a-watt on it but it's made a significant difference on the temp with only a 20h/s loss. That's the highest core I can get to at the moment, stable.

Stock BIOS, should I load in the 390 STILT's bios?

 One of TheStilt bios for the R9 290 should let you kick the temps down quite a bit while still bumping the clocks up some.
 On ETH I'm routinely seeing 80C more or less at 1100/1250 under LINUX though I'm running the fans a bit higher than you are.
 

Thanks it means R9 290 and 390 have same speed with big price difference ?
legendary
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I'm running two reference 290's at 400h/s at 1030/1250 -100mv core -100mv aux 0 power level. Fans are now at 50-55% at 85C, this is inside of a Corsair 750D.

I need to put a kill-a-watt on it but it's made a significant difference on the temp with only a 20h/s loss. That's the highest core I can get to at the moment, stable.

Stock BIOS, should I load in the 390 STILT's bios?

 One of TheStilt bios for the R9 290 should let you kick the temps down quite a bit while still bumping the clocks up some.
 On ETH I'm routinely seeing 80C more or less at 1100/1250 under LINUX though I'm running the fans a bit higher than you are.
 
legendary
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Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
can you guys share their speeds on stock setting of MSI R9 390 Gigabyte R9 390 Sapphire R9 390 and XFX R9 390 all 8GB
again stock setting no OC no modded bios please.

Thanks


well i have msi r9 390x2 with the stupid lights and all they produce about 215/225 Hs each no nothing, and 3x r9 390 asus with stupid flashing lights performing about the same 215/225 each card for what is worth.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1037
6.25 ---> 3.125
can you guys share their speeds on stock setting of MSI R9 390 Gigabyte R9 390 Sapphire R9 390 and XFX R9 390 all 8GB
again stock setting no OC no modded bios please.

Thanks

newbie
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i feel 280x the cards Claymore loves the most - will have 200 sols per card i nthe update Smiley)

I like 390-390X the most - I'm going to reach 300H/s on stock clocks.
RX480 will show about 190-200 I think.
280X - about 200 or a bit more.

What Hashrate will a R9 Nano have on v8?
Is it even possible for a rx480 to get a hashrate above 200 H/s?
I'm trying to figure out whats the best investment for another rig..
Btw. good work!

Somebody analyses the hash rate of the RX 470. The limit is around the 170 H/s. So it will not be too high.

170 for a 470 how in the world are you going to achieve that without getting ridiculous high wattage?

Im hashing with my 470 at 150 with a decent wattage

nerdralph said

While my initial analysis was focused on the external GDDR5 bandwidth limits, current ZEC GPU mining software seems to be limited by the memory controller/core bus.  On AMD GCN, each memory controller can xfer 64 bytes (1 cache line) per clock.  In SA5, the ht_store function, in addition to adding to row counters, does 4 separate memory writes for most rounds (3 writes for the last couple rounds).  All of these writes are either 4 or 8 bytes, so much less than 64 bytes per clock are being transferred to the L2 cache.  A single thread (1 SIMD element) can transfer at most 16 bytes (dwordX4) in a single instruction.  This means a modified ht_store thread could update a row slot in 2 clocks.  If the update operation is split between 2 (or 4 or more) threads, one slot can be updated in one clock, since 2 threads can simultaneously write to different parts of the same 64-byte block.  This would mean each row update operation could be done in 2 GPU core clock cycles; one for the counter update, and one for updating the row slot.

Even with those changes, my calculations indicate that a ZEC miner would be limited by the core clock, according to a ratio of approximately 5:6.  In other words, when a Rx 470 has a memory clock of 1750Mhz, the core would need to be clocked at 1750 * 5/6 = 1458Mhz in order to achieve maximum performance.

If the row counters can be kept in LDS or GDS, the core:memory ratio required would be 1:2, thereby allowing full use of the external memory bandwidth.  There is 64KB of LDS per CU, and the AMD GCN architecture docs indicate the LDS can be globally addressed; i.e. one CU can access the LDS of another CU.  However the syntax of OpenCL does not permit the local memory of one work-group to be accessed by a different work-group.  There is only 64KB of GDS shared by all CUs, and even if the row counters could be stored in such a small amount of memory, OpenCL does not have any concept of GDS.

This likely means writing a top performance ZEC miner for AMD is the domain of someone who codes in GCN assembler.  Canis lupus?
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i feel 280x the cards Claymore loves the most - will have 200 sols per card i nthe update Smiley)

I like 390-390X the most - I'm going to reach 300H/s on stock clocks.
RX480 will show about 190-200 I think.
280X - about 200 or a bit more.

What Hashrate will a R9 Nano have on v8?
Is it even possible for a rx480 to get a hashrate above 200 H/s?
I'm trying to figure out whats the best investment for another rig..
Btw. good work!

Somebody analyses the hash rate of the RX 470. The limit is around the 170 H/s. So it will not be too high.

170 for a 470 how in the world are you going to achieve that without getting ridiculous high wattage?

Im hashing with my 470 at 150 with a decent wattage
newbie
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i feel 280x the cards Claymore loves the most - will have 200 sols per card i nthe update Smiley)

I like 390-390X the most - I'm going to reach 300H/s on stock clocks.
RX480 will show about 190-200 I think.
280X - about 200 or a bit more.

What Hashrate will a R9 Nano have on v8?
Is it even possible for a rx480 to get a hashrate above 200 H/s?
I'm trying to figure out whats the best investment for another rig..
Btw. good work!
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i feel 280x the cards Claymore loves the most - will have 200 sols per card i nthe update Smiley)

I like 390-390X the most - I'm going to reach 300H/s on stock clocks.
RX480 will show about 190-200 I think.
280X - about 200 or a bit more.
and what about nano/fury ? They have 512 gGB of bandwith...

Yes, but too wide memory bus, 4096bit is too much for most PoW algos and therefore cannot be used completely.
Nano will show about 250H/s, may be I will reach a bit more.
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