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I was all ready to sign, and then I saw that it was pretty poorly written. Give a good, cohesive argument why they should accept Bitcoin and why it would be in THEIR interests, and I'll sign.
The attitude for OP is there, just not the thought.
a - no way in hell paypal will even get within 100 ft of BTC
b - no F'in way I want paypal anywhere remotely near BTC
c - Remember, these are the ppl who'll freeze ur acct in 3 sec flat....
so, ummm no.
a - no way in hell paypal will even get within 100 ft of BTC
b - no F'in way I want paypal anywhere remotely near BTC
c - Remember, these are the ppl who'll freeze ur acct in 3 sec flat....
so, ummm no.
This petition needs work. It's pretty clear that Paypal would have to make fundamental changes to the way they do business in order to include Bitcoin as an available currency. Also, do we really need 300,000 signatories to petition Paypal?!
Have you guys heard of BitPay? They're the Bitcoin payment specialists. (for the dude who said: " F**K Paypal -> Use Bitcoin
)
Have you guys heard of BitPay? They're the Bitcoin payment specialists. (for the dude who said: " F**K Paypal -> Use Bitcoin
)Does anyone else find this laughable? ripple was sold as an easier way to get bitcoin!
If people can just buy bitcoin they wouldn't have any need for ripple!
Any fool can see that.
The fact that you are able to run your business successfully bodes well for Bitcoin, Ripple, and Paypal! Maybe Ripple could even end up the tool Paypal uses to solve the Bitcoin trading issue.If people can just buy bitcoin they wouldn't have any need for ripple!
Any fool can see that.
i like you positive attitude
This petition was not written very well..
This petition needs work. It's pretty clear that Paypal would have to make fundamental changes to the way they do business in order to include Bitcoin as an available currency. Also, do we really need 300,000 signatories to petition Paypal?!
Have you guys heard of BitPay? They're the Bitcoin payment specialists. (for the dude who said: " F**K Paypal -> Use Bitcoin)
Have you guys heard of BitPay? They're the Bitcoin payment specialists. (for the dude who said: " F**K Paypal -> Use Bitcoin
)Does anyone else find this laughable? ripple was sold as an easier way to get bitcoin!
If people can just buy bitcoin they wouldn't have any need for ripple!
Any fool can see that.
The fact that you are able to run your business successfully bodes well for Bitcoin, Ripple, and Paypal! Maybe Ripple could even end up the tool Paypal uses to solve the Bitcoin trading issue. If people can just buy bitcoin they wouldn't have any need for ripple!
Any fool can see that.
If the idea is so you can buy things on eBay using bitcoin, petition eBay to allow bitcoin as a method of payment. Either directly, or through an escrow service. PayPal doesn't need to be involved, and probably doesn't want to be.
I dont see the reason for something like this to ever be implemented with any service that requires you to privide any information that could lead back to you.
The entire point of Bitcoin is the anonymity of the buyer/seller, so involving PP into trade isnt smart...
The entire point of Bitcoin is the anonymity of the buyer/seller, so involving PP into trade isnt smart...
As other have said, I cant see how this would work. 
The only reason for wanting this is to increase the visibility/traction of Bitcoin. Do we really want a company like Paypal to get involved in bitcoin!!
They are one of the worst companies in the world when it comes to customer service, they trumpet that they are like a bank but even by banking standards they fall massively short.
The whole idea of bitcoin was to get rid of the need for banks, including paypal.
Lets do it without paypal!!!
+1 The only reason for wanting this is to increase the visibility/traction of Bitcoin. Do we really want a company like Paypal to get involved in bitcoin!!
They are one of the worst companies in the world when it comes to customer service, they trumpet that they are like a bank but even by banking standards they fall massively short.
The whole idea of bitcoin was to get rid of the need for banks, including paypal.
Lets do it without paypal!!!
As other have said, I cant see how this would work.
The only reason for wanting this is to increase the visibility/traction of Bitcoin. Do we really want a company like Paypal to get involved in bitcoin!!
They are one of the worst companies in the world when it comes to customer service, they trumpet that they are like a bank but even by banking standards they fall massively short.
The whole idea of bitcoin was to get rid of the need for banks, including paypal.
Lets do it without paypal!!!
Sorry, rant over!!
The only reason for wanting this is to increase the visibility/traction of Bitcoin. Do we really want a company like Paypal to get involved in bitcoin!!
They are one of the worst companies in the world when it comes to customer service, they trumpet that they are like a bank but even by banking standards they fall massively short.
The whole idea of bitcoin was to get rid of the need for banks, including paypal.
Lets do it without paypal!!!
Sorry, rant over!!
Thats like throwing pearls before swine.
.. before throwing swine?? 
Yes; ideally, you'll want to throw the swine first, and then make a serious decision as to whether you'll throw the pearls
Thats like throwing pearls before swine.
.. before throwing swine??
As others have said, the petition is poorly written. Nothing specific, just a vague idea.
you are letting you bias against paypal influence your thinking. It might be hard for you to figure out a system to trade bitcoin is wouldnt be a problem for paypal, but would make ripple totally irrelevant.
Quite the contrary, that would be great for Ripple. Ripple currently has the same problem Bitcoin does -- it's hard to get fiat money into and out of the system because of exactly the problems I'm trying to draw attention to here -- it's hard to mix soft money and hard money systems. If people could easily buy and sell Bitcoins, that would make it much easier for them to get money into and out of Ripple because Bitcoins are hard money.Does anyone else find this laughable? ripple was sold as an easier way to get bitcoin!
If people can just buy bitcoin they wouldn't have any need for ripple!
Any fool can see that.
I am not going with this idea 
you are letting you bias against paypal influence your thinking. It might be hard for you to figure out a system to trade bitcoin is wouldnt be a problem for paypal, but would make ripple totally irrelevant.
Quite the contrary, that would be great for Ripple. Ripple currently has the same problem Bitcoin does -- it's hard to get fiat money into and out of the system because of exactly the problems I'm trying to draw attention to here -- it's hard to mix soft money and hard money systems. If people could easily buy and sell Bitcoins, that would make it much easier for them to get money into and out of Ripple because Bitcoins are hard money.There is less incentive to steal bitcoins then dollars..
Only because there aren't good, easy way to steal Bitcoins. If there were, Bitcoins would be much more desirable because the payments are irreversible and harder to trace.Quote
there would not be a flood of hacked accounts
I don't agree. There would be a flood of hacked accounts.Quote
and there are plenty of safe guards in place to stop fraud.
Right, such as not allowing people to use PayPal to buy Bitcoins.Quote
They are in the business of fraud prevention that is the number one service they provide. It is the only service they charge for other than currency conversion.
Exactly, and that's why they currently don't permit PayPal to be used to buy Bitcoins.Quote
Paypal only charges me when they insure my transaction. A gift paymet funded from your balance and sent from your home is the exact same thing as a bitcoin transaction. It is non reversible and uninsured they could offer bitcoin transactions with the same business model. If you are sending to a trusted friend it would be free if you wanted it to be insured you would have to provide additional information and pay a fee.
That is not true. Simply saying the transaction was unauthorized is sufficient to get PayPal to reverse a gift. There is nothing the recipient can say in response. They can't say they earned it.Quote
It annoys me when people say shit cant be done... or never. That is the same load of shit people told me when I started my coin sales business. Stop saying things cant be done and start asking how can it be done. When you say cant you are refusing to think.
You have it completely backwards. You are the one saying there is no problem to solve and thus that no problem solving is necessary. It is *that* attitude that prevents things from changing. I'm trying to get you to see that there are big problems that would need to be solved and you are refusing to think and instead just dismissing the problem.So jack has usd in his account from selling the btc...and jill has btc in here PP bitcoin wallet... jill is a lying bitch and says she didnt buy that..
This is what happens the usd in jacks account is frozen while they review... they see that oh look jack did send the bitcoin it is in jills PP wallet.. case close give jack his money back..
ya got any more brain busters?
This would be an absolute disaster. If PayPal adopted this policy, the rate at which PayPal accounts are stolen would go through the roof as thieves used malware to get people's PayPal login information and easily converted that to Bitcoins. Victims would complain to their banks when PayPal doesn't help them, they would reverse ACH transactions, dispute credit card charges, and PayPal would severely damage their banking relationships.This is what happens the usd in jacks account is frozen while they review... they see that oh look jack did send the bitcoin it is in jills PP wallet.. case close give jack his money back..
ya got any more brain busters?
There is less incentive to steal bitcoins then dollars.. there would not be a flood of hacked accounts and there are plenty of safe guards in place to stop fraud. They are in the business of fraud prevention that is the number one service they provide. It is the only service they charge for other than currency conversion.
Paypal only charges me when they insure my transaction. A gift paymet funded from your balance and sent from your home is the exact same thing as a bitcoin transaction. It is non reversible and uninsured they could offer bitcoin transactions with the same business model. If you are sending to a trusted friend it would be free if you wanted it to be insured you would have to provide additional information and pay a fee.
It annoys me when people say shit cant be done... or never. That is the same load of shit people told me when I started my coin sales business. Stop saying things cant be done and start asking how can it be done. When you say cant you are refusing to think.
How much are you selling emails to private companies?
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