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Topic: [CLOSED] NanoFury NF1 USB stick - Group Buy + Product Assembly - page 11. (Read 74370 times)

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Chips have been tested to run at extreme temperatures. One user used a soldering iron to heat the chip to the point it desoldered. Hashing stopped only when chip started floating on solder and shortcircuited.

dafuq O.o

What can I say ... the bitfury chip is a Russian design Smiley
Their stuff may not always be the prettiest or most efficient but it's been known to work when nothing else works ... Smiley
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Chips have been tested to run at extreme temperatures. One user used a soldering iron to heat the chip to the point it desoldered. Hashing stopped only when chip started floating on solder and shortcircuited.

dafuq O.o

and a side note did the diff really jump 80M?
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Chips have been tested to run at extreme temperatures. One user used a soldering iron to heat the chip to the point it desoldered. Hashing stopped only when chip started floating on solder and shortcircuited.

dafuq O.o
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Note the hashrate there is overclocked. It overheated not long after I posted the screen.
To meet USB 2 specs, it'll probably be closer to the 2 Gh/s advertised.


how bad of an overheat? and powered hub or host port?  could an active usb fan help?

A small fan would certainly help. That's my observations (from a few posts above) :

You should keep in mind that the board will run quite hot - I've been checking with an infrared thermometer and the ones I've tested report 80-87C with just passive cooling (no fan).

Note that going way over 85C would probably lead to unknown side effects. Bitfury's chips are known to be able to take quite a lot of heat but the rest of the components may not behave well at such conditions.

Chips have been tested to run at extreme temperatures. One user used a soldering iron to heat the chip to the point it desoldered. Hashing stopped only when chip started floating on solder and shortcircuited.
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Note the hashrate there is overclocked. It overheated not long after I posted the screen.
To meet USB 2 specs, it'll probably be closer to the 2 Gh/s advertised.
how bad of an overheat? and powered hub or host port?  could an active usb fan help?
Even running at spec, these things get pretty hot.
This was on a powered USB 3 hub, with no cooling.
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Note the hashrate there is overclocked. It overheated not long after I posted the screen.
To meet USB 2 specs, it'll probably be closer to the 2 Gh/s advertised.


how bad of an overheat? and powered hub or host port?  could an active usb fan help?
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Note the hashrate there is overclocked. It overheated not long after I posted the screen.
To meet USB 2 specs, it'll probably be closer to the 2 Gh/s advertised.
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 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to mining.eligius.st diff 2 with stratum as user x
 Block: ...0441d23a #264126  Diff:268M ( 1.92Ph/s)  Started: [16:59:59]
 ST:2  F:0  NB:2  AS:0  BW:[103/ 34 B/s]  E:8.42  I:  190uBTC/hr  BS:129
 1            |  2.49/ 2.44/ 2.51Gh/s | A:287 R:1+0(.35%) HW:11/1.8%
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 NFY 0:       |  2.43/ 2.45/ 2.53Gh/s | A:288 R:1+0(.35%) HW:11/1.8%
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 [2013-10-16 17:12:56.715328] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update
 [2013-10-16 17:12:57.383380] Accepted 5ad11cc2 NFY 0  Diff 2/2
 [2013-10-16 17:12:58.964609] Accepted 3dd03c65 NFY 0  Diff 4/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:02.832086] Accepted 5e1db25d NFY 0  Diff 2/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:07.178307] Accepted 73924629 NFY 0  Diff 2/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:10.591666] Accepted 41377ee1 NFY 0  Diff 3/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:11.191507] Accepted 4e81a07a NFY 0  Diff 3/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:26.225879] Accepted 564eba42 NFY 0  Diff 2/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:27.425181] Accepted 609b937b NFY 0  Diff 2/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:28.768057] Accepted 0e4fbd6a NFY 0  Diff 17/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:29.501953] Accepted 54ff281c NFY 0  Diff 3/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:32.633905] Accepted 781b7ce4 NFY 0  Diff 2/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:35.459990] Accepted 1fb0e690 NFY 0  Diff 8/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:50.062610] Accepted 5f6e97f8 NFY 0  Diff 2/2
 [2013-10-16 17:13:51.725775] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update
 [2013-10-16 17:13:53.184233] Accepted 250d457b NFY 0  Diff 6/2
 [2013-10-16 17:14:00.036483] Accepted 355fdf81 NFY 0  Diff 4/2
 [2013-10-16 17:14:00.649419] Accepted 55365bbf NFY 0  Diff 3/2
 [2013-10-16 17:14:01.376224] Accepted 25199743 NFY 0  Diff 6/2
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vs3
I would love to buy a couple of these units, are they cheaper if they are not put together?
I normally do not use a Bitcoin wallet, I used Coinbase and Mt.gox, is there away I can get in on the buy?

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Any delivery / assembly / shipping updates Vs3?

Nothing much newer than what I wrote yesterday.

Marto74 got the PCBs and everything has been sent to the assembly factory.
Marto mentioned the other day that if everything goes as planned we should have the first devices on Friday or early next week and hopefully all devices at some point next week. As soon as the first devices are in he'll be doing some extra testing on them to make sure everything is good so in case if it isn't we can fix it before all devices are assembled. (and so that we can catch things like let's say some component is flipped like the LED on one of my previous project, etc).

I guess until that happens there isn't going to be anything to report. Probably the next significant news update will be in the beginning of next week.
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Any delivery / assembly / shipping updates Vs3?
vs3
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I know i am a little bit late, but can i order also? Normally i am active here, but i had e few unpleasant weeks behind me, so i missed out this one Sad

Hello,

I might be able to get you one or two the most, but no promises. We ordered some extra ones to have spares (to replace defective ones) but it would all depend on how it goes.

As for ordering - follow the same instructions as from a few posts ago:

Place an order following the instructions in the opening post please - pick your shipping preferences and add that to the device' price of 0.53BTC. Don't forget to sign the message.

Also - we've been having problems with email clients adding/removing a space here and there (thus ruining the signature) so just in case sign also just the transaction ID (and don't add any text like "Transaction ID" etc.).
Send an email and also just in case send me a copy of the signed stuff in a PM.
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great update Cheesy keep up!
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Bulletproof VPS/VPN/Email @ BadAss.Sx
I know i am a little bit late, but can i order also? Normally i am active here, but i had e few unpleasant weeks behind me, so i missed out this one Sad
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As for pictures - Marto74 will likely have the final devices within the next days to a week and we'll post some pictures of them as soon as they're ready.

In the mean time I've been experimenting with the engineering samples - I had one of them running with BitMinter for several days and one on Slush. At the moment using 54 bits produces a pretty stable 2.2-2.3GH output.

Some observations - at 54bits speed it is actually consuming a bit more than 2.5W - about 600-650mA which is roughly 3-3.2W and to my surprise all computers that I've tested so far let the device run (and it didn't trigger the over-current protection). So you might be able to actually "overclock" them by just setting a higher speed multiplier. You should keep in mind that the board will run quite hot - I've been checking with an infrared thermometer and the ones I've tested report 80-87C with just passive cooling (no fan).
You can also overclock them additionally by tweaking the voltage (e.g. doing the "pencil mod") and this will very likely yield 2.5-2.7GH easily. Boards will definitely be very hot though - you'll need to consider better cooling in that case.

Using 51 bits makes it consume just a tad over 500mA and that results in about 1.8-1.85 GH/s (in case you got a very restrictive USB2.0 board).

Below is the BitMinter data with the 54-bit speed I've been running over the last week or so (I used Excel and added the extra 2 columns at the end):

   No.       Completed  Duration  Total Ghps Difficulty  Your score Total score Your work Total work     My % work  My GH/s
   18532 10/10/2013 1:33  0h 57m   94,114.78 189,281,249 0.00000953  0.40055896     1,804 75,818,301  0.0000237937 2.239341
   18531 10/10/2013 0:35  0h 56m   96,182.10 189,281,249 0.00000943  0.40237726     1,784 76,162,470  0.0000234236 2.252932
   18530 10/9/2013 23:38  0h 56m   95,796.48 189,281,249  0.0000095  0.40076400     1,799 75,857,111  0.0000237156 2.271875
   18529 10/9/2013 22:41  0h 57m   95,018.86 189,281,249 0.00000968  0.40125102     1,832 75,949,294  0.0000241214 2.291984
   18528 10/9/2013 21:43  0h 57m   94,805.07 189,281,249 0.00000968  0.40338028     1,832 76,352,323  0.0000239940 2.274756
   18527 10/9/2013 20:45  0h 57m   95,004.77 189,281,249 0.00000927  0.40084093     1,754 75,871,672  0.0000231180 2.196319
   18526 10/9/2013 19:48  0h 57m   95,376.50 189,281,249 0.00000927  0.40170539     1,755 76,035,298  0.0000230814 2.201422
   18525 10/9/2013 18:50  0h 57m   95,233.18 189,281,249  0.0000096  0.40145319     1,818 75,987,561  0.0000239250 2.278451
   18524 10/9/2013 17:53  0h 57m   95,280.15 189,281,249 0.00000937  0.40141679     1,773 75,980,672  0.0000233349 2.223351
   18523 10/9/2013 16:55  0h 57m   94,909.45 189,281,249 0.00000969  0.40324069     1,835 76,325,902  0.0000240416 2.281779
   18522 10/9/2013 15:57  0h 58m   93,531.68 189,281,249 0.00000973  0.40152882     1,842 76,001,877  0.0000242362 2.266857
   18521 10/9/2013 14:59  0h 57m   94,356.86 189,281,249 0.00000932  0.40100897     1,765 75,903,479  0.0000232532 2.194101
   18520 10/9/2013 14:01  0h 58m   93,506.68 189,281,249  0.0000101  0.40038631     1,912 75,785,621  0.0000252291 2.359086
   18519 10/9/2013 13:02  0h 59m   91,907.31 189,281,249 0.00000973  0.40099947     1,841 75,901,680  0.0000242551 2.229218
   18518 10/9/2013 12:03  1h 00m   89,486.81 189,281,249  0.0000099  0.40045552     1,873 75,798,721  0.0000247102 2.211235
   18517 10/9/2013 11:02  0h 59m   91,254.05 189,281,249 0.00000921  0.40129222     1,743 75,957,092  0.0000229472 2.094022
   18516 10/9/2013 10:02  0h 59m   92,273.10 189,281,249 0.00000968  0.40236844     1,833 76,160,801  0.0000240675 2.220783
   18515  10/9/2013 9:02  0h 58m   93,226.31 189,281,249 0.00001013  0.40297009     1,918 76,274,682  0.0000251460 2.344265
   18514  10/9/2013 8:03  0h 58m   93,150.22 189,281,249 0.00000966  0.40287035     1,829 76,255,804  0.0000239851 2.234214
   18513  10/9/2013 7:04  0h 58m   92,987.94 189,281,249 0.00000966  0.40216847     1,828 76,122,950  0.0000240138 2.232992
                                                                                                              Avg: 2.244949


Here are some screenshots:


Above table from Bitminter: and after running several days:

Running on Slush: and then 40+ hours later:
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Vice versa is not a meal.
Any Update on this ? Are there more Pictures of working units or any status updates ?

Regards
erk
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I missed out on the group buy, I didn't see the thread in time. Will there be another? I just need one unit for a project.

Hi erk,

we've ordered some extra devices (to have spares in case of defective ones) and I'm pretty sure we would be able to send you one.

Place an order following the instructions in the opening post please - pick your shipping preferences and add that to the device' price of 0.53BTC. Don't forget to sign the message.

Also - we've been having problems with email clients adding/removing a space here and there (thus ruining the signature) so just in case sign also just the transaction ID (and don't add any text like "Transaction ID" etc.)
Thanks for that, much appreciated, payment has been sent. If the email doesn't verify let me know and I will send it from a console text email program that doesn't add stuff like the GUI ones do.

vs3
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I missed out on the group buy, I didn't see the thread in time. Will there be another? I just need one unit for a project.

Hi erk,

we've ordered some extra devices (to have spares in case of defective ones) and I'm pretty sure we would be able to send you one.

Place an order following the instructions in the opening post please - pick your shipping preferences and add that to the device' price of 0.53BTC. Don't forget to sign the message.

Also - we've been having problems with email clients adding/removing a space here and there (thus ruining the signature) so just in case sign also just the transaction ID (and don't add any text like "Transaction ID" etc.)
erk
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I missed out on the group buy, I didn't see the thread in time. Will there be another? I just need one unit for a project.
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