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Topic: [CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx - page 106. (Read 316442 times)

legendary
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Thank the gods that this one did not show up in GLBSE or in any of the other new exchanges that have popped up lately.
20 BTC for opening a account? This is a robbery.
 
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"Want a piece of SatoshiDICE"
LOL... With a deal like this, you do not get even a piece of SatoshiDICE'es ass hair.
There are better and more noble ways to burn your BTC.
donator
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Here's another way to look at this: 320,000 BTC is a little more than 1.5% of all bitcoins that will ever exist.
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did i read the fine print right, 100,000,000 shares at .0032 or 3,200,00 btc or more than 30 million usd?

that is insane...

Your math is a little broken there, but as they say practice makes perfect.


I dont see it - checks out fine.

His thousands have 2 zeroes. It's more like 3.2 million US$ at 10$/BTC valuation.
hero member
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Investing in SatoshiDICE actually peaked my interest. These returns are ridiculous though...

0.0033278 BTC for 1/100M of 10%? Are you insane?
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
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did i read the fine print right, 100,000,000 shares at .0032 or 3,200,00 btc or more than 30 million usd?

that is insane...

Your math is a little broken there, but as they say practice makes perfect.


I dont see it - checks out fine.
legendary
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I'm not a tech, but I would guess the same thing is stopping someone today that stopped someone up until today. And also the same thing that stopped all the groupon clones from becoming groupon and all the facebook/twitter clones from becoming facebook/twitter. In the words of the once-famous Jerry Seinfeld,

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No Resources, No Skills, No Talent, No Ability...

A very good point, SD did get its name out there and established Smiley

Care to elaborate what mistake was made with the maths.


First, I am not knocking the website/business. I think it was clever, well executed, and they deserve credit.

Comparing them to facebook is ludicrous when trying to infer they have a wide moat around their business model
that is impenetrable from others looking to take a piece of the pie.

As soon as a clone is polished up, offers better payouts for the same exact bet, SD will have to match it
(thus reducing profits) or admit they cannot control the market for this type of gambling. Word of mouth is
strong in bitcoin land and most users know where to get the best bang for their btc. A simple add on this website
and a few others would reach many users over a one week period getting the clone's name out there immediately.
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hero member
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
I'm not a tech, but I would guess the same thing is stopping someone today that stopped someone up until today. And also the same thing that stopped all the groupon clones from becoming groupon and all the facebook/twitter clones from becoming facebook/twitter. In the words of the once-famous Jerry Seinfeld,

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No Resources, No Skills, No Talent, No Ability...

A very good point, SD did get its name out there and established Smiley

Care to elaborate what mistake was made with the maths.
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did i read the fine print right, 100,000,000 shares at .0032 or 3,200,00 btc or more than 30 million usd?

that is insane...

Your math is a little broken there, but as they say practice makes perfect.

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yeah, i was like lulz....

Me too. Cause of the math. In general money people are good with numbers.

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what is stopping someone from coding up a clone of satoshi dice over a weekend and taking a piece of
the pie... thus reducing your profits.

it seems that is a major threat i would love to hear countered.

I'm not a tech, but I would guess the same thing is stopping someone today that stopped someone up until today. And also the same thing that stopped all the groupon clones from becoming groupon and all the facebook/twitter clones from becoming facebook/twitter. In the words of the once-famous Jerry Seinfeld,

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No Resources, No Skills, No Talent, No Ability...

Go with the flow, hate less, live longer.
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did i read the fine print right, 100,000,000 shares at .0032 or 3,200,00 btc or more than 30 million usd?

that is insane...

So...all the public shares have a total of 10 millions, that's 10% of total shares.

Let's say I buy 1 million shares to get 1% of satoshidice.

1 000 000 x 0.0032 = 3200 BTC.
It costs 3200 BTC to buy 1%.

Expected to have 2700 BTC / month in total profit. 1% of 2700 BTC = 27 BTC.
It cost me 3200 BTC to get 27 BTC / month and it would take me around 118 months to recoup my initial investment, or around 10 years.

I like satoshidice and I appreciate its potential....but I'm not sure at all.

I am convinced you are not a ponzi scheme - mainly because the returns are so unattractive Tongue

There is at least 1 clone of SD:  http://btcdice.com/
And a "themed" clone of satoshidice: http://satoshiroulette.com/

with the market expected to grow I dont see people ever getting their ROI.

Also Id like to know what bank SD has behind the casino Smiley
hero member
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There are clones up and running

I'm working on a variant myself
legendary
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what is stopping someone from coding up a clone of satoshi dice over a weekend and taking a piece of
the pie... thus reducing your profits.

it seems that is a major threat i would love to hear countered.
hero member
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BTW, it seems that a couple of people made the mistake.

In the IPO, the shares are valued at 0.0001 BTC each for a total of 10 000 BTC. But they sell at 0.0032+.
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SatoshiDICE is worth 320,000 BTC or $3,200,000 at $10/BTC?
sr. member
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So...all the public shares have a total of 10 millions, that's 10% of total shares.

Let's say I buy 1 million shares to get 1% of satoshidice.

1 000 000 x 0.0032 = 3200 BTC.
It costs 3200 BTC to buy 1%.

Expected to have 2700 BTC / month in total profit. 1% of 2700 BTC = 27 BTC.
It cost me 3200 BTC to get 27 BTC / month and it would take me around 118 months to recoup my initial investment, or around 10 years.

I like satoshidice and I appreciate its potential....but I'm not sure at all.

yeah, i was like lulz....
Given the figures of 65BTC/day, 10% across all shares, and so on, I got about 0.5%/month return. With your figures I got about 0.8%/mo. I understand that under most business plans 7%/wk is a clear scam, but this seems like the other side of crazy.
hero member
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So...all the public shares have a total of 10 millions, that's 10% of total shares.

Let's say I buy 1 million shares to get 1% of satoshidice.

1 000 000 x 0.0032 = 3200 BTC.
It costs 3200 BTC to buy 1%.

Expected to have 2700 BTC / month in total profit. 1% of 2700 BTC = 27 BTC.
It cost me 3200 BTC to get 27 BTC / month and it would take me around 118 months to recoup my initial investment, or around 10 years.

I like satoshidice and I appreciate its potential....but I'm not sure at all.
hero member
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Wat
facebook lol

Facebook doesnt have a business plan apart from selling your personal info to other companies.
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GLBSE Support [email protected]

The FAQ mentions about having to pay a 20 BTC amount to register your GPG key with them.

So does this mean that it would cost each person 20 BTC just to put in a bid for the shares?


Yes.

Also by the end of next week GLBSE will have options available (and the ability to make options) on all assets listed on GLBSE.
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legendary
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The FAQ mentions about having to pay a 20 BTC amount to register your GPG key with them.

So does this mean that it would cost each person 20 BTC just to put in a bid for the shares?
hero member
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Wat
So how could I bid?

Hopefully someone will setup a GLBSE passthrough so people dont have to deal with MPEX.
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