[CLOSED] Spondoolies-Tech SP30 pre-order - Specs: 0.69$/GH + 0.46W/GH - page 30.

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 05:45:51 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 18, 2014, 05:36:36 PM

i'd like to pull the trigger on this too....but August doesn't sit well...and with 4TH now and with 6TH plus on the way from KNC supposedly end of next week, and S1's readily available (w/ undervolt as future option) Spoondoolies is looking not so tempting.

May/June Delivery times maybe i pull the rapid fire trigger.

Outta ammo for August!

They will have chips in early July, so June delivery is simply impossible. I'm waiting for refunds from KnC. I chosed 5.4TH at 2500W instead of 3TH or 3.3TH at 2100W. I hope you got your home wired ok since you will need around 8000W for those 6TH if you are talking about FrankenJupiters.

Regarding the S1 i stated my view(it can be applied to SP30 too):

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 05:07:28 PM

If you are ok buying S1s then please go ahead. For me at least i find it very hard to have 1.4 TH in S1s (more cables, a lot of power supplies, no case hardware, much more space etc) while having one SP10 is much easier. Maybe for you those aren't such big problems, for me they are and that's why i would choose SP10 instead of many S1s.

roadstress, it'll be more like 3 x 1200W per unit, so it will be more like 7500W total, and since my spot used to be a liquor store, each outlet is on its own circuit (due to commercial coolers, think soda/beer etc), so power and A/C is good. What I don't have is TIME.

maybe the SP10 group buy will work out better.

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Many of us also see they know how to build the 1.4th sp10 it is a great unit push that on us.

NOW to be honest my great hope is they are truly mad genius's and all this thread was to ploy create a group buy for the sp10. For may delivery at good prices.
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Great idea...SP10 is a proven...existing...good product...!

Hey RoadStress,... could you organize another group buy for SP10 ...Easter is just behind the corner... Wink

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Quote from: sbfree on April 18, 2014, 05:36:36 PM

i'd like to pull the trigger on this too....but August doesn't sit well...and with 4TH now and with 6TH plus on the way from KNC supposedly end of next week, and S1's readily available (w/ undervolt as future option) Spoondoolies is looking not so tempting.

May/June Delivery times maybe i pull the rapid fire trigger.

Outta ammo for August!

They will have chips in early July, so June delivery is simply impossible. I'm waiting for refunds from KnC. I chosed 5.4TH at 2500W instead of 3TH or 3.3TH at 2100W. I hope you got your home wired ok since you will need around 8000W for those 6TH if you are talking about FrankenJupiters.

Regarding the S1 i stated my view(it can be applied to SP30 too):

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 05:07:28 PM

If you are ok buying S1s then please go ahead. For me at least i find it very hard to have 1.4 TH in S1s (more cables, a lot of power supplies, no case hardware, much more space etc) while having one SP10 is much easier. Maybe for you those aren't such big problems, for me they are and that's why i would choose SP10 instead of many S1s.

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i'd like to pull the trigger on this too....but August doesn't sit well...and with 4TH now and with 6TH plus on the way from KNC supposedly end of next week, and S1's readily available (w/ undervolt as future option) Spoondoolies is looking not so tempting.

May/June Delivery times maybe i pull the rapid fire trigger.

Outta ammo for August!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2014, 04:50:35 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 12:53:19 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2014, 12:26:46 PM

preorders are a tough sell now.

I rather order a sp10 from them and get it in around 1-2 weeks.

August ship dates are a tough sell. So many long time for delivery deals have busted out.

KnC had no problems selling 2 or 3 batches (not sure if CA batch counts as a regular batch or not) with delivery over 5 months and little updates and nobody complained/thought about difficulty back then. Even now they are offering 3TH for 6k$ and still no clear date except "one month after Batch 2" which would translate to August/September delivery for a much worse $/GH ratio.

yeah but they basically were coming off a grand-slam in the bottom of the ninth inning to win the world series.

By that I mean the Oct-Nov delivery of the Jupiter . BTC was over 1 k and people such as myself had made good money on their gear.

Now coins are 500 or less. Asics are a dime a dozen. Lets be real I can order s-1s today and they will be at my house on Monday.

0.877 a unit so 10 cost 8.77 btc that is about 4253.45 usd. I mine 2th in under 4 or 5 days. add in 700 for power supplies.

so 5k gets me 2th hashing on tues . this is why you are getting resistance to this sale.

Many of us also see they know how to build the 1.4th sp10 it is a great unit push that on us.

NOW to be honest my great hope is they are truly mad genius's and all this thread was to ploy create a group buy for the sp10. For may delivery at good prices.

So let me get this straight. When the BTC rate is high it's ok to spend the money on pre-orders without thinking and now that BTC rate is down we need to fully stop pre-ordering and just buy in stock items at 3x prices? Personally i don't agree, but if you are ok buying S1s then please go ahead. For me at least i find it very hard to have 1.4 TH in S1s (more cables, a lot of power supplies, no case hardware, much more space etc) while having one SP10 is much easier. Maybe for you those aren't such big problems, for me they are and that's why i would choose SP10 instead of many S1s.

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 04:15:29 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 03:55:08 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 03:36:30 PM

the attack is not directed at group buys in general... only pre-ordering.

I don't have time to visit all pre-ordering threads... I happen to be here cause of the spoonname... which I am considering purchasing if we can negotiate a fair price.

My point is the groundhog day action of pre-ordering... companies need to make the hardware and sell it.. or only sell daily what they can make in a day.. not vaporware that has not been shown to work yet.

I think you didn't understand me. There are 2 group buys for Neptune right below this one (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/knc-miner-neptune-3000ghs-group-buy-all-soldout-347845 and https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r19x-knc-neptune-2-paid-for-60ghash2250-shares-open-347732) and you weren't complaining there, but you complained here. If you want to be fair you should complain in all pre-order group buys, not only on the ones that you choose because if you do it only on the ones that you choose it means that you either have something against the company or against the organizer and since you have nothing against me the only conclusion is that you have something against the company which makes you biased.

BUT...

spoondooles did NOT start out with pre-orders.. they came here and surprised with in stock miners... then started doing pre-orders afterwards...

so if spoon can come here with in stock miners once.... whey cant they keep that model..

I'm still waiting for an explanation why didn't you complained about pre-orders in the 2 mentioned threads. KnC always had pre-orders too.
Spoondolies always did pre-orders. But until now they had just a small delay of a couple of weeks from the moment of order and until the moment of shipping. Until now they never shipped from stock.

Quote from: bobsmoke on April 18, 2014, 04:21:03 PM

Sorry to ask but to get it clear : How does the queue position works? The queue position is based when the 0.1 btc per machine was sent?

Yes. The queue position is based when the 0.1 btc per machine is sent.

Quote from: jimmothy on April 18, 2014, 04:25:17 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on April 18, 2014, 04:21:38 PM

I was thinking of going for a mini Titan but I dont want to reward KNC for screweing its customers so bad

Don't forget that when you get your titan, KNC will be mining with 10 titans (per titan sold). You would be lucky to break even with a scrypt asic (or any asic miner)

That's something that Spoondolies won't do, but i don't want to start another debate of i say no, you say yes and so on until we get to a dead end.

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 12:53:19 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2014, 12:26:46 PM

preorders are a tough sell now.

I rather order a sp10 from them and get it in around 1-2 weeks.

August ship dates are a tough sell. So many long time for delivery deals have busted out.

KnC had no problems selling 2 or 3 batches (not sure if CA batch counts as a regular batch or not) with delivery over 5 months and little updates and nobody complained/thought about difficulty back then. Even now they are offering 3TH for 6k$ and still no clear date except "one month after Batch 2" which would translate to August/September delivery for a much worse $/GH ratio.

yeah but they basically were coming off a grand-slam in the bottom of the ninth inning to win the world series.

By that I mean the Oct-Nov delivery of the Jupiter . BTC was over 1 k and people such as myself had made good money on their gear.

Now coins are 500 or less. Asics are a dime a dozen. Lets be real I can order s-1s today and they will be at my house on Monday.

0.877 a unit so 10 cost 8.77 btc that is about 4253.45 usd. I mine 2th in under 4 or 5 days. add in 700 for power supplies.

so 5k gets me 2th hashing on tues . this is why you are getting resistance to this sale.

Many of us also see they know how to build the 1.4th sp10 it is a great unit push that on us.

NOW to be honest my great hope is they are truly mad genius's and all this thread was to ploy create a group buy for the sp10. For may delivery at good prices.

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 18, 2014, 04:25:17 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on April 18, 2014, 04:21:38 PM

I was thinking of going for a mini Titan but I dont want to reward KNC for screweing its customers so bad

Don't forget that when you get your titan, KNC will be mining with 10 titans (per titan sold). You would be lucky to break even with a scrypt asic (or any asic miner)

OT: I've been looking at scrypt lately. From the hash-rate growth I believe that scrypt ASICs are already hashing.
Maybe we'll do that also down the road. Need to deal with the menace on all fronts...

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 04:15:29 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 03:55:08 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 03:36:30 PM

the attack is not directed at group buys in general... only pre-ordering.

I don't have time to visit all pre-ordering threads... I happen to be here cause of the spoonname... which I am considering purchasing if we can negotiate a fair price.

My point is the groundhog day action of pre-ordering... companies need to make the hardware and sell it.. or only sell daily what they can make in a day.. not vaporware that has not been shown to work yet.

I think you didn't understand me. There are 2 group buys for Neptune right below this one (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/knc-miner-neptune-3000ghs-group-buy-all-soldout-347845 and https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r19x-knc-neptune-2-paid-for-60ghash2250-shares-open-347732) and you weren't complaining there, but you complained here. If you want to be fair you should complain in all pre-order group buys, not only on the ones that you choose because if you do it only on the ones that you choose it means that you either have something against the company or against the organizer and since you have nothing against me the only conclusion is that you have something against the company which makes you biased.

BUT...

spoondooles did NOT start out with pre-orders.. they came here and surprised with in stock miners... then started doing pre-orders afterwards...

so if spoon can come here with in stock miners once.... whey cant they keep that model..

They got something like $5.5m in venture capital, which allowed them to do their R&D and produce a limited run of SP10s which they have now sold out. I believe this next push to 28nm for the SP30s costs about $20m, and they need to raise that money through pre-orders because their VC money doesn't stretch that far. (I'm quoting all figures from memory from posts in their official thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-spondoolies-tech-carrier-grade-data-center-ready-mining-rigs-521520)

No company has produced 28nm without taking pre-orders. It's just a much more expensive process.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on April 18, 2014, 04:21:38 PM

I was thinking of going for a mini Titan but I dont want to reward KNC for screweing its customers so bad

Don't forget that when you get your titan, KNC will be mining with 10 titans (per titan sold). You would be lucky to break even with a scrypt asic (or any asic miner)

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I'm in for one or two i'll send the PM once i get home

I was thinking of going for a mini Titan but I dont want to reward KNC for screweing its customers so bad

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Sorry to ask but to get it clear : How does the queue position works? The queue position is based when the 0.1 btc per machine was sent?

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 03:55:08 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 03:36:30 PM

the attack is not directed at group buys in general... only pre-ordering.

I don't have time to visit all pre-ordering threads... I happen to be here cause of the spoonname... which I am considering purchasing if we can negotiate a fair price.

My point is the groundhog day action of pre-ordering... companies need to make the hardware and sell it.. or only sell daily what they can make in a day.. not vaporware that has not been shown to work yet.

I think you didn't understand me. There are 2 group buys for Neptune right below this one (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/knc-miner-neptune-3000ghs-group-buy-all-soldout-347845 and https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r19x-knc-neptune-2-paid-for-60ghash2250-shares-open-347732) and you weren't complaining there, but you complained here. If you want to be fair you should complain in all pre-order group buys, not only on the ones that you choose because if you do it only on the ones that you choose it means that you either have something against the company or against the organizer and since you have nothing against me the only conclusion is that you have something against the company which makes you biased.

BUT...

spoondooles did NOT start out with pre-orders.. they came here and surprised with in stock miners... then started doing pre-orders afterwards...

so if spoon can come here with in stock miners once.... whey cant they keep that model..

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 03:36:30 PM

the attack is not directed at group buys in general... only pre-ordering.

I don't have time to visit all pre-ordering threads... I happen to be here cause of the spoonname... which I am considering purchasing if we can negotiate a fair price.

My point is the groundhog day action of pre-ordering... companies need to make the hardware and sell it.. or only sell daily what they can make in a day.. not vaporware that has not been shown to work yet.

I think you didn't understand me. There are 2 group buys for Neptune right below this one (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/knc-miner-neptune-3000ghs-group-buy-all-soldout-347845 and https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r19x-knc-neptune-2-paid-for-60ghash2250-shares-open-347732) and you weren't complaining there, but you complained here. If you want to be fair you should complain in all pre-order group buys, not only on the ones that you choose because if you do it only on the ones that you choose it means that you either have something against the company or against the organizer and since you have nothing against me the only conclusion is that you have something against the company which makes you biased.

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 03:36:30 PM

not vaporware that has not been shown to work yet.

you are wayyyy down the queue. Cheesy

too busy trolling to keep up? HUH?

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 03:32:10 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 02:37:06 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 01:23:22 PM

another pre-order scheme??..... reeaally?

MINERS stop PRE-ordering from these companies...

come july 30th lets see where we stand..... if you have rigs in stock, I will buy a boatload.. else, I will buy from other companies that have in stock equipment...

Unless you posted this message to all other pre-order group buys i will treat it like an attack directed especially for this group buy. As i said please stay on topic. Like the offer, buy it, don't like the offer take it to another thread. Thank you.

the attack is not directed at you personally...... the attack is against pre-ordering..

Now if you want to take 0.1 btc to save a spot in the queue.. and full payment when the rigs are about to be shipped.. that would be acceptable... It would be like buying an option.

Read my post again. I said the attack was for this group buy, not for me personally. I see that there are other pre-orders group buys for Neptune and you didn't make any pre-order remarks in them, but you felt the need to make the remark here and on Spoondolies Tech hardware thread. If you want to be fair then please make the remark on all threads or don't make any remark. Thx

the attack is not directed at group buys in general... only pre-ordering.

I don't have time to visit all pre-ordering threads... I happen to be here cause of the spoonname... which I am considering purchasing if we can negotiate a fair price.

My point is the groundhog day action of pre-ordering... companies need to make the hardware and sell it.. or only sell daily what they can make in a day.. not vaporware that has not been shown to work yet.

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 02:37:06 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 01:23:22 PM

another pre-order scheme??..... reeaally?

MINERS stop PRE-ordering from these companies...

come july 30th lets see where we stand..... if you have rigs in stock, I will buy a boatload.. else, I will buy from other companies that have in stock equipment...

Unless you posted this message to all other pre-order group buys i will treat it like an attack directed especially for this group buy. As i said please stay on topic. Like the offer, buy it, don't like the offer take it to another thread. Thank you.

the attack is not directed at you personally...... the attack is against pre-ordering..

Now if you want to take 0.1 btc to save a spot in the queue.. and full payment when the rigs are about to be shipped.. that would be acceptable... It would be like buying an option.

Read my post again. I said the attack was for this group buy, not for me personally. I see that there are other pre-orders group buys for Neptune and you didn't make any pre-order remarks in them, but you felt the need to make the remark here and on Spoondolies Tech hardware thread. If you want to be fair then please make the remark on all threads or don't make any remark. Thx

Quote from: RawDog on April 18, 2014, 03:30:09 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM

. Thank you.

Wow! Somebody just ordered 185 machines in one reservation!! Well on the way to 250
ae51910a67ee6f2c74a89919a824fec4177e92144ecef71f0ed707284f8b27b3

Will add a status in the OP soon.

Edit: You F5 too much, because i just got the payment.

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM

. Thank you.

Wow! Somebody just ordered 185 machines in one reservation!! Well on the way to 250
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Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 01:23:22 PM

another pre-order scheme??..... reeaally?

MINERS stop PRE-ordering from these companies...

come july 30th lets see where we stand..... if you have rigs in stock, I will buy a boatload.. else, I will buy from other companies that have in stock equipment...

Unless you posted this message to all other pre-order group buys i will treat it like an attack directed especially for this group buy. As i said please stay on topic. Like the offer, buy it, don't like the offer take it to another thread. Thank you.

the attack is not directed at you personally...... the attack is against pre-ordering..

Now if you want to take 0.1 btc to save a spot in the queue.. and full payment when the rigs are about to be shipped.. that would be acceptable... It would be like buying an option.

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on April 18, 2014, 01:23:22 PM

another pre-order scheme??..... reeaally?

MINERS stop PRE-ordering from these companies...

come july 30th lets see where we stand..... if you have rigs in stock, I will buy a boatload.. else, I will buy from other companies that have in stock equipment...

Unless you posted this message to all other pre-order group buys i will treat it like an attack directed especially for this group buy. As i said please stay on topic. Like the offer, buy it, don't like the offer take it to another thread. Thank you.

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