[ CLOSED ] VX-1 Miner Group Buy - Free 1 TH/s Miner Giveaway - page 7.

The Observer

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Quote from: MWNinja on February 09, 2014, 05:09:38 PM

Put me down for 10. Hopefully we can confirm it's real before having to pay.

Thanks man, got you marked down

Quote from: nottm28 on February 09, 2014, 05:05:27 PM

Quote from: The Observer on February 09, 2014, 04:55:44 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on February 09, 2014, 04:46:10 PM

Sorry, this thread stinks of scam.

Thanks for your USLESS input mate. Can we get a moderator around here that can take a screenshot with IP's on the posts so we can shut this moron up. His conspiracy theory mentality is enough to make one want to vomit.

“Conspiracy theory is the ultimate refuge of the powerless. If you cannot change your own life, it must be that some greater force controls the world.”
― Roger Cohen

In other words, its not my fault your an idiot.

Any now the aggression, this is like watching the 5 stages of grief. Calling me a 'fucking idiot' when clearly I am not, is not going to go down well with your thread viewers my friend.

If it walks like a dog, barks like a dog, and wags its tail like a dog, i am going to call it a dog, If it conspires like an idiot, makes random shots in the dark which in less than a weeks time will make it look like an idiot, and continues to troll like an idiot, i am going to call it an idiot. So i stand by my words, you sir are a conspiracy theory crazed "FUCKING IDIOT"

End of subject, now back on to the intelligent conversations from the slimmer by the day normal humans on this forum.

To the rest of you, my apologies for having to do this in public, fucking idiots like that deserve to be drug out behind the barn beaten. It will end here though. I am done feeding the conspiracy theory troll.

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Well nottm28, to be honest, your kinda full of shit in my opinion. I recall seeing some of your other posts, and you probably piss vinegar in your spare time.. This is why I never did anything here, too many loosers screaming SCAM all the time..

I've made the mistake NOT to buy the KnC miners early on, but to go for the Butt.. Labs. Still waiting for my delivery!

I'm Dutch so my IP is obviously coming out of... Any moderator can confirm this.

I've bought earlier here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-1-avalon-gen2-220ghs-limited-batch-0-of-100-units-sold-out-401185

And sure as hell I gave freetrax a hard time about delivery, but he came trough as well.

Once again, my English might be off at times, it's not my native language.

Back to topic in my opinion! This just might be a good deal, and the only reason why I don't want to order too many is that I *think* it's legit, but I'm not stupid either..

The Observer

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Quote from: nwoolls on February 09, 2014, 05:03:01 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on February 09, 2014, 04:46:10 PM

@nwoolls - you surprise me in giving credence to this joker. Your comments have the effect of legitimizing this group buy. Are you sure you want to be associated in this way?

Ahem?

Quote from: nwoolls on February 09, 2014, 01:45:24 PM

First of all - this is in no way an endorsement. I have no more proof of these devices than you folks.

Quote from: nwoolls on February 09, 2014, 01:45:24 PM

Again, not an endorsement, no proof, but nothing has triggered any alarms in my conversations with them either.

People can make their own decisions. I only spoke honestly of my interactions with these folks.

Exactly what Nwoolls said, Leave him out of this, he was very clear in what he stated.

It's conspiracy theory fuck tards like you nottm28 that make it so the major software developers will not work with smaller companies on software integration. If you want to be a troll (which i will very clearly brand you now so there is no confusion) then keep it to the parties involved. Nwoolls has nothing to do with this more so then being a great guy who helped a small project get off the ground with native software support before launch.

Nwoolls, i cannot apologize enough for this dipshit bringing you into this. Please do not let this effect your willingness to support the little guys in the future. I know you didnt ask for any of this at all.

MWNinja

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Put me down for 10. Hopefully we can confirm it's real before having to pay.

nottm28

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Quote from: The Observer on February 09, 2014, 04:55:44 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on February 09, 2014, 04:46:10 PM

Sorry, this thread stinks of scam.

Thanks for your USLESS input mate. Can we get a moderator around here that can take a screenshot with IP's on the posts so we can shut this moron up. His conspiracy theory mentality is enough to make one want to vomit.

“Conspiracy theory is the ultimate refuge of the powerless. If you cannot change your own life, it must be that some greater force controls the world.”
― Roger Cohen

In other words, its not my fault your an idiot.

Any now the aggression, this is like watching the 5 stages of grief. Calling me a 'fucking idiot' when clearly I am not, is not going to go down well with your thread viewers my friend.

nwoolls

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Quote from: nottm28 on February 09, 2014, 04:46:10 PM

@nwoolls - you surprise me in giving credence to this joker. Your comments have the effect of legitimizing this group buy. Are you sure you want to be associated in this way?

Ahem?

Quote from: nwoolls on February 09, 2014, 01:45:24 PM

First of all - this is in no way an endorsement. I have no more proof of these devices than you folks.

Quote from: nwoolls on February 09, 2014, 01:45:24 PM

Again, not an endorsement, no proof, but nothing has triggered any alarms in my conversations with them either.

People can make their own decisions. I only spoke honestly of my interactions with these folks.

The Observer

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One Better since the mods are not quick to oblige requests.

Maxx, if you wouldnt mind following suit so we can shut this fucking idiot up i would appreciate it.

The Observer

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Quote from: nottm28 on February 09, 2014, 04:46:10 PM

Sorry, this thread stinks of scam.

The Observer - created 10-01-2014, 00:24:38, a brand newbie running a group buy for 200 units worth upwards of 2k each - no credibility, no experience - sounds legit

Maxximus007 - created 08-01-2014, 12:18:53, 18 hours earlier and The Observer's biggest defender of how 'legit' this all sounds.

Then there is the similar language used by observer and maxximus, one (tries) to write a bit posher but they both use the same expressions, such as this from observer:

Quote from: The Observer on February 08, 2014, 04:58:10 PM

I think these 200 units will be gone in a couple of minutes once the pictures are there, and they have gained a bit more attention. My Neptune first batch is more expensive per Th/s, and will be delivered (hopefully) around the same time. Ppl ordered for second batch will be behind for more than a month and will for sure have paid more than this..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5040506

The two accounts also use kinda (maxximus) and kind of (observer) in a very similar way. This looks like one person with two accounts. One account (observer) speaks 'proper' (although he spells 'ment' instead of 'meant'). The other account (maxximus) speaks 'street' and luv ya init.

Then there's the whole host of other newbies all claiming to be in on this group buy.

In short observer = maxximus = scam

@nwoolls - you surprise me in giving credence to this joker. Your comments have the effect of legitimizing this group buy. Are you sure you want to be associated in this way?

@observer, next time, you might try creating your two 'worker' accounts more than 18 hours apart - and work on the Engerlishe

Thanks for your USLESS input mate. Can we get a moderator around here that can take a screenshot with IP's on the posts so we can shut this moron up. His conspiracy theory mentality is enough to make one want to vomit.

“Conspiracy theory is the ultimate refuge of the powerless. If you cannot change your own life, it must be that some greater force controls the world.”
― Roger Cohen

In other words, its not my fault your an idiot.

nottm28

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Sorry, this thread stinks of scam.

The Observer - created 10-01-2014, 00:24:38, a brand newbie running a group buy for 200 units worth upwards of 2k each - no credibility, no experience - sounds legit

Maxximus007 - created 08-01-2014, 12:18:53, 18 hours earlier and The Observer's biggest defender of how 'legit' this all sounds.

Then there is the similar language used by observer and maxximus, one (tries) to write a bit posher but they both use the same expressions, such as this from observer:

Quote from: The Observer on February 08, 2014, 04:58:10 PM

I think these 200 units will be gone in a couple of minutes once the pictures are there, and they have gained a bit more attention. My Neptune first batch is more expensive per Th/s, and will be delivered (hopefully) around the same time. Ppl ordered for second batch will be behind for more than a month and will for sure have paid more than this..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5040506

The two accounts also use kinda (maxximus) and kind of (observer) in a very similar way. This looks like one person with two accounts. One account (observer) speaks 'proper' (although he spells 'ment' instead of 'meant'). The other account (maxximus) speaks 'street' and luv ya init.

Then there's the whole host of other newbies all claiming to be in on this group buy.

In short observer = maxximus = scam

@nwoolls - you surprise me in giving credence to this joker. Your comments have the effect of legitimizing this group buy. Are you sure you want to be associated in this way?

@observer, next time, you might try creating your two 'worker' accounts more than 18 hours apart - and work on the Engerlishe

ravic

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If they can post a video with it running put me in for 3.

The Observer

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Quote from: Maxximus007 on February 09, 2014, 03:23:36 PM

Just read on their website that they have received a big order just today, so almost half of their production is already gone.. http://www.vxminers.com/blog/2014/02/09/our-biggest-order-yet. For a scam it's kinda stupid to limit yourself big time in getting qty's in..

@The Observer: hope that you can reserve at least the current group buy qty. Hope to hear tomorrow or wednesday at the latest if I have a go for 2 more.

@nwoolls: thank you for your contribution to this topic, your words are very helpful to at least establish that they exist, and not working for a Nigerian government department Wink

OH SHIT !!!!! good catch Maxximus007. I thought i would have more time than it appears i am going to have to get 50 orders together. I had not e-mailed them to see if they would at least honor free shipping for us if we dont hit 50 units because i didnt want them to feel like i was failing at this, but i guess its probably about time i send that e-mail so i can at least salvage what we have gotten together if they get another big order.

In the mean time, as stated in the original post, this is my first ever group buy and i really dont know much about running one. Do you guys have any idea on how i can get a little more traffic to this thread from the forum to at least increase our visibility in hopes of getting a few more orders so we can get these machines? I am getting kind of panicky with them selling so quick and borderline going to just place my order with them now to make sure i get at least two of them, but i dont want to take my numbers away from my own group buy.

HELP? Huh

ANYONE?? There has got to be a few of you here that know more about this than me.

Maxximus007

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Just read on their website that they have received a big order just today, so almost half of their production is already gone.. http://www.vxminers.com/blog/2014/02/09/our-biggest-order-yet. For a scam it's kinda stupid to limit yourself big time in getting qty's in..

@The Observer: hope that you can reserve at least the current group buy qty. Hope to hear tomorrow or wednesday at the latest if I have a go for 2 more.

@nwoolls: thank you for your contribution to this topic, your words are very helpful to at least establish that they exist, and not working for a Nigerian government department Wink

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I think it's just that we've all taught ourselves to be wary and distrustful of a deal that's too good to be true, and absent proof, this falls in that category. Give us some concrete explanation that this is real, and we're willing to jump in.

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Quote from: BuildTheFuture on February 09, 2014, 01:52:31 PM

nwoolls, have they given you any code or anything to look at yet? So development is really occurring?

They have not committed code back yet - no. They are still working on getting it working properly with MobileMiner and enabling simple overclocking from the MulitMiner UI. I have done a few big refactorings for things like Remoting, so I've put them behind a couple of times.

I can say that they have asked questions that make it very clear that, if they aren't actually coding on MultiMiner, this is a very complex scam.

These are bright, well spoken individuals. There's no communication barrier, no language barrier, and they are obviously competent developers (or can appear to be).

From my last communication with them they are still testing and will be committing the code back to me next week.

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I think these 200 units will be gone in a couple of minutes once the pictures are there, and they have gained a bit more attention. My Neptune first batch is more expensive per Th/s, and will be delivered (hopefully) around the same time. Ppl ordered for second batch will be behind for more than a month and will for sure have paid more than this..

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Observer, thanks for the correction, don't know where I got 2k units from.

nwoolls, have they given you any code or anything to look at yet? So development is really occurring?

nwoolls

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I just wanted to speak up a bit.

First of all - this is in no way an endorsement. I have no more proof of these devices than you folks.

That said, the guys from VX Miners have been in touch with me for a month or so as they work on adding support for their miner to MultiMiner (one of my projects). They have been very professional, very friendly, and nothing in our communications has seemed shady or questionable.

Also my communications with them are in-line with what The Observer is saying: it's just a couple of guys (father / son I believe) working together to try to make some nice hardware without all the BS.

Again, not an endorsement, no proof, but nothing has triggered any alarms in my conversations with them either.

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Quote from: BuildTheFuture on February 09, 2014, 11:23:05 AM

Is there some cheaper source of Bitfury chips these guys found? Because the last group buy of them I found was for $5/chip. If this rig has 400 chips total, that is $2k, so I don't see how they are pricing it at $2250?

The group buy on chips had a profit margin, when you order a ton of reels from MBP i am sure you get them for a lot cheaper.

Quote from: BuildTheFuture on February 09, 2014, 11:34:56 AM

Is it really that cheap to get the boards designed, built, etc? I have no clue, would like someone with experience to say. And yes, some pics of the boards in the case would be great.

edit: Just to add: I AM potentially interested in this. I just need a bit more proof.

Actually shipping a prototype to the multi-miner guy would be great.

Showing the chip purchase bitcoin transaction(s) would be good - getting confirmation from megabigpower on the chip order would be even better.

Some pics of their boards in the prototype rigs would be good.

These things are not asking that much, if they can't/won't then good luck selling all 2k in the next few weeks. Bitmain seems to drop their price in line with difficulty every couple weeks, who knows by 2nd half March they may be close to this price and I know they are trustworthy.

I have already requested pictures of the guts and got an e-mail back from them that they would be happy to do so this week, they are taking the weekend off as they have spent over a month working non stop. Also, you mentioned 2k units, which is vastly off, only 200 units, which i know they wont have issues selling at all, which is why i am eager to hit our 50 as that is 1/4 of all machines available and they are getting ready to launch their advertising for the website this week once they get the better pictures he said. which means i have about a week to a week and a half to get the order in before they sell out. Once they get pictures of the guts and stuff up these things will fly off the shelves. Bitmain is charging close to the same money for 180 GH/s, and this is 1 TH/s.

Quote from: KyrosKrane on February 09, 2014, 12:25:00 PM

Contingent upon proof this is a valid, working machine in ready-to-ship state and not just a pipe dream or scam, I'm interested in one. However, I'd need it with a 240V power supply (or better yet, a universal or switchable power supply).

Even though they are only about a month from ready to ship, i dont think anybody is going to have the luxury of ordering post production, its not a continual assembly line, its 200 then done.

Sorry it took so long to reply to all of you, i went out shooting this morning and got all 4 wheels buried in the snowy mud. Took 3 hours to dig out.

KyrosKrane

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Contingent upon proof this is a valid, working machine in ready-to-ship state and not just a pipe dream or scam, I'm interested in one. However, I'd need it with a 240V power supply (or better yet, a universal or switchable power supply).

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Is it really that cheap to get the boards designed, built, etc? I have no clue, would like someone with experience to say. And yes, some pics of the boards in the case would be great.

edit: Just to add: I AM potentially interested in this. I just need a bit more proof.

Actually shipping a prototype to the multi-miner guy would be great.

Showing the chip purchase bitcoin transaction(s) would be good - getting confirmation from megabigpower on the chip order would be even better.

Some pics of their boards in the prototype rigs would be good.

These things are not asking that much, if they can't/won't then good luck selling all 2k in the next few weeks. Bitmain seems to drop their price in line with difficulty every couple weeks, who knows by 2nd half March they may be close to this price and I know they are trustworthy.

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