Topic: [CLOSED] Watch the thread for finaly payout info "Project #2" - page 2. (Read 47892 times)
Any updates?
It's been over 2 weeks, lets get this over with already..
I agree, I have requested the e-mails.
Thanks.
Waiting for this to end well.
Thanks
It's been over 2 weeks, lets get this over with already..
I do not have access to the e-mails. I will get them all in 2 weeks. All I do is deal with the public and pay money.
I hope we'll have a little time then to resubmit if some e-mails happen to have been lost...They are not lost and I checked with the guy managing them that we are getting the emails. I do not have access to them yet but I will when I need to sort everything out to pay everyone out. Do not worry
Approaching 2 weeks in 3 days. Everything on track for doing the payouts?
I do not have access to the e-mails. I will get them all in 2 weeks. All I do is deal with the public and pay money.
I hope we'll have a little time then to resubmit if some e-mails happen to have been lost... E-mail is going out right now. If you do not get it no problem.
Just send an e-mail from the e-mail address we have on file for you, your btc address we have on file for you and the amount you think is owed to p2 at TyGrr d0t c0m
I am going to give everyone 2 weeks from this post to respond.
Also my ignore list is going to have long term visitors now. Members who troll all my threads for lack of better to do are not welcome here and not worth my time.
Thank you
Just send an e-mail from the e-mail address we have on file for you, your btc address we have on file for you and the amount you think is owed to p2 at TyGrr d0t c0m
I am going to give everyone 2 weeks from this post to respond.
Also my ignore list is going to have long term visitors now. Members who troll all my threads for lack of better to do are not welcome here and not worth my time.
Thank you
Email sent.
since we blasted out 90 e-mails at once some people will call it spam and block it. so we posted the info here.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Did you receive my email? Seems queer as there's no sign of your email in my spam folder.
E-mail is going out right now. If you do not get it no problem.
Just send an e-mail from the e-mail address we have on file for you, your btc address we have on file for you and the amount you think is owed to p2 at TyGrr d0t c0m
I am going to give everyone 2 weeks from this post to respond.
Also my ignore list is going to have long term visitors now. Members who troll all my threads for lack of better to do are not welcome here and not worth my time.
Thank you
Just send an e-mail from the e-mail address we have on file for you, your btc address we have on file for you and the amount you think is owed to p2 at TyGrr d0t c0m
I am going to give everyone 2 weeks from this post to respond.
Also my ignore list is going to have long term visitors now. Members who troll all my threads for lack of better to do are not welcome here and not worth my time.
Thank you
Sent an email to p2 at tygrr d-t c0m as I didn't receive the email from you, thanks.
I wasn't trolling. You seemed to have trolled your own thread, there was no need for you to bring up BurningToad in the midst of your own issues.
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My apologies, that was rude.
Seriously though, stop bringing others up when you have problems.
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My apologies, that was rude.
Seriously though, stop bringing others up when you have problems.
Just waiting for the email to arrive so I can (to the best of my knowledge) provide you with an estimate of my earnings.
Thank you
Thank you
Every time something goes wrong for you, you attempt to drag someone else's name though the mud. You need to stop doing this.
It worked for shakaru and others for so long I thought it was the appropriate excuse here. The equivalent of force manure, as it were.
Every time something goes wrong for you, you attempt to drag someone else's name though the mud. You need to stop doing this.
+1
You are correct, context is my friend. So are semantics as you so eloquently put it.
As for this, are you serious? I do believe "common people" use words as currently defined by most recent issues of dictionaries.
Person: Human, Individual
Owe: To be under obligation to pay or repay in return for something received
People without personal issues are not people. Because he is a person that does not give him the ability to escape morality, rather he is bound by it.
You don't know the circumstances of his leave of absence and reason for pool shutdown. He could very well have cancer, I'd say fuck it too.Yes there were dangers, and this is why I replied to a post warning about the dangers of mining at pools. Read the post that I replied to, I understand you fell for what Giga said about me avoiding responsibility but you should reread the thread and try to figure this out for yourself. Context is your friend.
Good luck.
You stated BurningToad owed you something. This is not the case completely. Remember context is my friend.Good luck.
BTW I use person in the way the common people will use it daily. Person comes from Greek and means "a mask", and a "person" in the USA was a way to make a "sovereign" have to follow state and federal laws. To state it more clearly a "person" is your corporate identity. If the people knew the significances of this the USA would be a very different place.
As for this, are you serious? I do believe "common people" use words as currently defined by most recent issues of dictionaries.
Person: Human, Individual
Owe: To be under obligation to pay or repay in return for something received
I will state again since you seemed to have missed it, closing the pool when miners are unpaid is morally ambiguous.
You are acting as if I am not going to pay the pool because of ARS's actions. I really think you need to reread what has been said in this thread.
You are acting as if I am not going to pay the pool because of ARS's actions. I really think you need to reread what has been said in this thread.
I said nothing to the affect that you would not pay your miners because of BT closing ARSBitcoin. As an operator of a PPS platform mining pool, I believe it is required of you to pay out all shares as you have taken any buffer for yourself and have agreed by offering PPS to take on all risk of variance for yourself with the hopes of making profits off quick blocks. As to SMPPS and BurningToad, you should read pg 16-17 of Meni's Analysis of Bitcoin Pooled Mining Reward Systems, published Nov. 17, 2011.
Furthermore, it is very rude to say BurningToad morally ambiguous when he had stated;
I've been having a number of personal issues. One of which has affected my ability to be very social or responsive.
especially given the fact that he stated this when the pool had a 800+ BTC positive buffer. You knew and understood, or had the information available but ignored it, the dangers associated with mining at a SMPPS pool. BT made it clear he was not keeping the pool up to date and maintenance had fallen of the deep end. Go re-read the ARS thread, the email you recieved was notice that he was closing the site and hosting down, the pool hasn't had an operator in quiet some time. SMPPS pays as long as there is a positive pool buffer, it never became positive he owes you nothing. You should feel cheated by yourself, if anything, because you were either too lazy/bullheaded to move on or you were too optimistic that BT's personal issues were going to be resolved and he would come back.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.649544
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.606692
If you need further information on SMPPS you should contact Meni
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.649544
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.606692
If you need further information on SMPPS you should contact Meni
I will state again since you seemed to have missed it, closing the pool when miners are unpaid is morally ambiguous.
You are acting as if I am not going to pay the pool because of ARS's actions. I really think you need to reread what has been said in this thread.
He paid out everything he had, even if it meant not everyone got 100% of what they were owed. Its EXACTLY the same as what you're doing.. you're paying out everything you have and if there's not enough to go around, tough luck.
BT made it clear he was not keeping the pool up to date and maintenance had fallen of the deep end. Go re-read the ARS thread, the email you recieved was notice that he was closing the site and hosting down, the pool hasn't had an operator in quiet some time. SMPPS pays as long as there is a positive pool buffer, it never became positive he owes you nothing. You should feel cheated by yourself, if anything, because you were either too lazy/bullheaded to move on or you were too optimistic that BT's personal issues were going to be resolved and he would come back.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.649544
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.606692
If you need further information on SMPPS you should contact Meni
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.649544
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.606692
If you need further information on SMPPS you should contact Meni
I am not blaming him for the negative balance, I am blaming him for closing operations. By that local I could close this project before I pay everyone out. Absurd...
Hmm.. no. You offered a pay per share business, that means you owe everyone what you promised for the shares they submitted. Ars did not, they owe their miners what was effectively mined, not a dime more.
But closing up shop, when they said they would giving warning is the issue I have with them. I mined there to help them cuz they said they would giving warning before they closed. They effectively did not do that.
I feel cheated and lied to.
To be clear,
I have over 58 BTC unpaid.
I am owed at least a month of ARS being operation before it is closed.
Couldn't we say the same about your pool? We were/are owed and have btc unpaid. It sucks being on the other side of the fence, doesn't it?
I am not blaming him for the negative balance, I am blaming him for closing operations. By that local I could close this project before I pay everyone out. Absurd...
Hmm.. no. You offered a pay per share business, that means you owe everyone what you promised for the shares they submitted. Ars did not, they owe their miners what was effectively mined, not a dime more.
The way we are going to solve this is one of two ways.
1) Everyone tells me what they think they are owed by e-mail only! (I will ignore all PMs or messages in this thread!) I will e-mail you all and you respond with your BTC address and amount you think you are owed. If your BTC address is not on our list you get ignored. I will only pay the 138 BTC owed. If there are more claims for the coins than coins you will only get a percent.
If someone does not like this option we can do...
2) I give the coins to Maged as I'm sure there will be a scamming claim and he can sort it out. But since he has even less data than I do I doubt that will be very productive.
I have no intent to keep your coins and I'm sorry I ever did this as my margins were shockingly low. I have lost over $1000 on this project and that is not even counting time.
This will be over for me very soon one way or the other.
Thank you for you attention.
1) Everyone tells me what they think they are owed by e-mail only! (I will ignore all PMs or messages in this thread!) I will e-mail you all and you respond with your BTC address and amount you think you are owed. If your BTC address is not on our list you get ignored. I will only pay the 138 BTC owed. If there are more claims for the coins than coins you will only get a percent.
If someone does not like this option we can do...
2) I give the coins to Maged as I'm sure there will be a scamming claim and he can sort it out. But since he has even less data than I do I doubt that will be very productive.
I have no intent to keep your coins and I'm sorry I ever did this as my margins were shockingly low. I have lost over $1000 on this project and that is not even counting time.
This will be over for me very soon one way or the other.
Thank you for you attention.
Well, seems fair enough. Is RG's compensation(did he give one?) included? If so, please give your email address.
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