Topic: [CLOSED]R5: KnC Jupiter, BELOW-COST+Host! $78+Bonuses! Hashing, 1st payouts sent - page 17. (Read 30689 times)

Verified my info as accurate

Thanks -Redacted-

DZ - could you put this up on the OP, please ??

Group Buy 5 payout sheet.  Please check your info ESPECIALLY your payout wallet ID.  If you haven't given me specific permission to show your Forum ID, just the first letter is shown.  This is in a fixed font, so there should not be two addresses that are shorter than the others...


Wallet ID                             order #          Forum ID        shares
17MHb1RGGDrZrmwaw4CZkw4RxJvscPjGZm    0                -Redacted-          5
1NtgJf4znCsA5GJDCbqtowHL2143WyqLkC    26                f…                 1
1M7m94KA9m7PP4jnpQT828w6iggPr7rygd    28                jongaper           1
1g6ie6Poh9tk4XqqQU4d5ciJEEh9Z9rhZ     BTC               DyslexicZombei     1
14M6Z6jmSRiabnVQVkLdjajDYuePrkVHD4    TxID: f39a..      Thomas_s           1
15J54qEXL6LXrGEQhC4GLydMjSHYZgBnaE    TxID: f39a..      bobsag3            1
11zdPjd9tbVoUW84d8xP8r8Rwim9M6g5r     34, 43            A…                11
1Fo2K52Rz7LZw9fcF5BDdDBjfNaViQ8J3x    36, 37, 38        philipma1957       9
1K1ZjYHvv1NnCCkFK4JyxnrxwoqzmbxDDz    39                z…                 1
1J1eydkbAXQEbLLjETQjrqJr4M6JhjF9kM    40,PP-4,PP-10     c…                11
1KFmw2oaqVuFRNeFMVMyEjNDg8kM4bigAG    45                m…                 4
1BDMjhYTS1QY7Xh7A1QXHh4ZUwaypesis5    46                b…                15
1Pmpxh7Zf2LRp7HqJoc1LUaRAf6JkJ7Nrp    PP-1              b…                10
1MKL371ykcP2ETQyUA2JHvh11YuFkJfaub    PP-2              Miramyn            1
18MWmexH8yZGwvKUQCCQGeepC1358KfTtP    PP-3              Cantrip            2
1DxMEbKicyAhBJRuHYQ6ViNS38R3zzHFJ2    Transfer          f…                 3
16f1jyqEG9UyVsho54R2oTyiSaw2iCXpQz    TxID: 0557..      u…                 1
1AUygSXSm4oeNeZ5G91T7EGaiLc27GejCL    TxID: cc12..      T…                 2
1NgC3GaT1HRndhwv8s9HgqMiK91RLiPU1C    PP-11             u…                 7
1Bz85yQKb6CjL9TiZkvjt2jYwp8AQdxWqG    PP-12             D…                 5
1KnNYh2MAkG4AhYmyXeAnLf9e2veHrXKiW    PP-5              Tiennou74          8
            
Total            100 shares

Im actually going to advice he take the HS and boards out of the case, and ship them seperately. Should also be cheaper. I only need the 4 boards with chips + HS's + control/power board right? Overnight that to me so I can get them hashing ASAP, and the case can follow slowly.

  sounds pretty good to me,but  please add a double box and some bubble wrap around the fans.

Unless anyone objects, the current plan is to ship this machine (and any others that have shown up) via overnight shipping to hosting on October 16th.  We'll hash straight through the October 15th payout date, and end up just losing one day in the next bi-monthly payout period, which happens to be 16 days long.  

I'll get the first batch of GB5/GB6 payouts done right after shipping stuff down to bobsag3.  You can expect to receive payouts shortly after the 1st and 15th of each month...

You can find similar things for less.  I've seen similar stuff on eBay for a couple-bucks...

And yes, I've done the paperclip trick many times.  Couple wraps of electrical tape and it's nearly as good.   Just doesn't have shiny LEDs that light up

BTC Guild hashrate has settled down nicely to a solid 275 Gh/s for both R5 and R6 - the Jupiter was a little wobbly overnight but seems to have burned-in and stabilized (oh, maybe "burned" is a bad word to use here?   ).  We just filled in 10 PPLNS shifts, so we're ready to start making some BTC now.  



  

Should have the payout spreadsheets ready for everyone to verify by tonight...

EDIT:  The outer box is pretty thin.  According to Bitcoinorama the packaging is designed so the outer box can be damaged but not affect the machine inside.   The heatsink fans just "snap on" and off of the heatsinks with hand pressure , wouldn't have taken much of a bump to shake them loose.  Other than a non-working case fan, and a trip to the hardware store to pick up an SD-20 screwdriver, it didn't take much more than 2 minutes to get everything put back together and tested.

No big deal really, it came up and ran fine, which is what is important.  I've had computers shipped to me where the video card has broken loose and ripped itself out of the PCI socket and then proceeded to pretty much destroy everything else inside the case, including the motherboard and CPU.  That's a much worse a problem than having a couple of plastic shields shaking loose.  

-R-

I saw that in your pics and was wondering how much that cost you, or if KnC gave it to you with the Jupiter (cuz they know you're gonna most likely end up needing to use a PC PSU, and this definitely beats the paperclip trick).

Mind you, when I had PSU(s) ... 'paperclipped' I wrapped two layers of Gorilla tape around that bitch and there was no way that clip was coming out, and no way of the paperclip touching anything mettalic, or myself.

Wish it wasn't $10 though, cuz once it hits the border it'll become another $20-$30 in custom's brokerage fee's fuckers.  I'm sure other shops I use have something like this (and certainly cheaper then $10), i'll have to keep my eye out (eg. Monoprice if u want cables  or adapters ).

EDIT:  Well shit, let me eat my own words.  Cuz they have a Canadian shop as well as an American one.

EDIT 2: I forgot to ask.  Are USPS deliveries of an $8000 piece of hardware whose box has been mangled SOOO badly commonplace to you (and other American's)?  Cuz those pics, i've never received, or ever even seen a package delivered to someone (my next door neighbour is our streets mail lady so I see a lot of stuff she delivers) that's in that terrible a shape. 

I would be utterly outraged, and even though i'd not actually gain anything from it, i'd be having a long, very loud, very vitriolic conversation with USPS customer support on the phone about this.  Like ... I don't even own your Jupiter or had anything to do with it's delivery, but i'm so extremely angry right now.  I salute you for not flipping the fuck out like I would have lol.

i would vote for MNC too, maybe the exchange rate will rise. additionally you can make profit through trading it.

or is there some serious disadvantage with merged mining?

BTCGuild and 50BTC offer something in return for their very reasonable fees - consistent earnings.   I used to mine at Slush quite a bit, and they aren't one of the smaller pools.  They could hit 20 to 24 blocks per day when luck was running hot, but still had days where a 14 hour block and a 7 hour block could take you down to just 5 block a day, or 1/5 of the income as compared to better days.  

But it all averages out - I find BTCG, 50BTC, Slush, EMC, Eligius, GigaVPS, BitMinter, OzCoin and even HHTT all pay out roughly the same over a long period of time if you mine on them consistently.  I've spent many, many months of sending the same amount of hashrate to multiple pools and comparing the payouts over longer periods of time - weeks at a time - including the little bit extra you get for merged mining on some pools, and they're all virtually identical, payout wise, long term.

That's why I don't much like merged mining - it adds a great deal more hassle for the same returns.  These days I make 30 to 40% more than I would straight mining by switching betweeen pools under certain conditions.  You would probably call what I do pool hopping, but of course no one can do that, because all the pools will tell you that they are hop-proof, right?

No magic paperclip.  I use something a little bit more classy than a paperclip, and I'm always looking for an excuse to order more stuff from the robot shop:
http://www.robotshop.com/cytron-atx-power-supply-breakout-board-right-angle-2.html

-R-

polmine pps is PPS: 0.000000130757801 BTC
( SMPPS (Shared Maximum Pay Per Share). It's same like PPS (Pay Per Share), but mining pool will never pays more than it earns. This is for protect against the loss of profitability of our mining pool. )

so it is not robbery like 7% it is only 1% and you have NMC also

I'll echo the opinion that Elgius sounds good, as long as it's stable, otherwise I'm partial to PPLNS/BTCGuild.

The background color on Elgius' stats page makes my eyes bleed. Even pulling in a simple summary from the json api to the coop page might be nice.

Well I was proposing Elgius as primary, but I was open to failover pools.

What do you guys think: are the higher fees of the "giants of mining" (50 & BTCGuild) worth the higher likelihood of winning ASIC lottery tickets?

Awesome job -R-! BTW: Do you have a magic paper clip that helps to keep magic smoke inside the box? I  when I saw that's basically part of the instructions.

I'd never used Eligius, but from looking at it ... assuming they don't remain regularly DDos ed it would be my vote.  The two pools to which i've subscribed are deepbit and 50BTC.  Deepbit i've spent the most time in cuz they generally remain stable, and 50BTC I only started using, they have good payouts.

I bet those pics of popped cap's on burnt boards is from people overvolting and trying to push their overclock even further then it's designed input voltage permit's.  The same would probably occur if you did what Ashitank said but who in their right mind would ever plug/unplug miner cables while it's powered?  I have enough confidence in what -r- has already done to get this GB in motion to know he knows better then that.

When you've got things sorted ... that is, put back together I vote that you overclock it to just under the highest tolerance you find  when testing it.  Cuz it's gonna be at bobsag's place with his/your airconditioning, and these miner's aren't like hardware we have the need to perform for years.  A few month's and their practically gonna be metal boxes with breadboards covered in caps, resistors, and ASIC modules whose output is a magnitude or two too small for any practical use.  So I say ride that Jupiter into the Sun.

Hey Redacted thanks for working hard & getting jupiter up & running.

Note on Jupiter blow-up issues  : NOT to plug / unplug your miner power cables while it is powered up or it will surge the boards and kill them.

Do you have an "account per round" type setup on BTCGuild? It should be fairly trivial to write a wordpress plugin to include stats for the accounts on each group's page if such a thing doesn't already exist.

A somewhat ugly one is literally this simple even.

OK - Eligius is getting DDOSed and is completely unusable, again.  I switched the mining back to private BTCGuild servers and intend to leave it pointed there overnight.  I'll report on the earnings for the two GBs in the morning....

 Eligius is a capped PPS with back pay, but I don't know the PPS rate.  You are correct that 50 BTC pretty much beats the PPS rates on all other pools

On BTCGuild I would run PPLNS.  It looks like it will turn out to be a decent payout for that 15 minutes I was running there.  Won't know exactly how much until another 7 shifts close.  EMC pays out pretty well too - that's a DGM pool.  

Lots of different choices available to us - the GB will just have to put together a vote and vote their shares to make the final decisions about pools....

Once the GB are on separate machines, you could even do like I do - split the hashrate between  PPS and PPLNS pools.  I usually have 1/2 my hashrate going to a private pool, and 1/2 going to BTCGuild.  That gets me fairly constant payments and smooths out the variance from the private pool - which tends to pay a lot more, but much less frequently.

PPS gives a more stable payout
PPLNS usually gives a higher payout in the long term.

Are we going PPS on the pools or PPLNS?

If just PPS I would suggest 50btc over BTCGuild just on pay rates on those 2 sites
0.0000001281162296 BTC (50btc) vs 0.0000001221726934 (BTCGuild).

Just my 0.02 btc

Balance doesn't seem to work very well, it seems like it does more of a 60/40.   Switching back and forth seems to do a better job of splitting the hashrate evenly since each gets 100% for ten minutes.  Have to see what the graphs look like in the morning.