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Topic: [CLOSING] GHash.IO mining pool official page - page 44. (Read 149381 times)

DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
No other pool operates like GHash.IO.  I'm fine with them selling the hash to cluless buyers or people who just like to buy and flip.  The lack of self control as they approach or surpass 51% is what is disgusting.  Clearly there are enough mindless zombies in the BTC community to push them over 51%.  That does not mean that the owners should say it's not our fault we're successful...
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Gh.io does merged mining of NMC, DVC, IXC, pays transaction fees and has no pool fees.

Cex allows easy trading of NMC and IXC into BTC.

All these factors support the popularity of GH.io and there is no other pool to match that.

How do you think they can offer fee-free mining? How is it paid for?

You can't post such an open question without telling us how you think it works ogofti...

I'm not completely sure, although flound1129 brings up some good points. Regardless, a business is not going to be successful if it doesn't make money. If you're not paying an open fee at a pool then the pool is either making money from you some other way or is subsisting on donations.

I thought maybe the transaction fees from trading?
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
Gh.io does merged mining of NMC, DVC, IXC, pays transaction fees and has no pool fees.

Cex allows easy trading of NMC and IXC into BTC.

All these factors support the popularity of GH.io and there is no other pool to match that.

How do you think they can offer fee-free mining? How is it paid for?

You can't post such an open question without telling us how you think it works ogofti...

I'm not completely sure, although flound1129 brings up some good points. Regardless, a business is not going to be successful if it doesn't make money. If you're not paying an open fee at a pool then the pool is either making money from you some other way or is subsisting on donations.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Gh.io does merged mining of NMC, DVC, IXC, pays transaction fees and has no pool fees.

Cex allows easy trading of NMC and IXC into BTC.

All these factors support the popularity of GH.io and there is no other pool to match that.

How do you think they can offer fee-free mining? How is it paid for?

You can't post such an open question without telling us how you think it works ogofti...
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Who are these people that are worried about paying 1 or 2% fees to a pool?! And when you mine on Eligius, I bet you don't make a donation either.

Do you not leave tips at restaurants too?

Stable, reliable, TRUSTABLE pools provide a needed service. Pay them!

Some people (me) leave a tip at restaurants only if the service is good. Other pools need to give a 'good feeling' when we mine with them. I'm not sure I get that good feeling at the moment... And before anyone [e.g bitpop the depressed] jumps down my throat - I don't mine at ghash...
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
Who are these people that are worried about paying 1 or 2% fees to a pool?! And when you mine on Eligius, I bet you don't make a donation either.

Do you not leave tips at restaurants too?

Stable, reliable, TRUSTABLE pools provide a needed service. Pay them!
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
www.multipool.us
Other pools just need to step up their game and offer merged mining of atleast NMC for 0% fee.

As of today, gh.io is one of the best pools and therefore have the most miners.

p2pool is always nice too nad it supports the basic bitcoin idea, by further decentralizing the network.

It's not reasonable to expect a pool operator to take a 0% fee.  Pools are not charities.  There are real expenses and work involved in running one.

Ghash's pool is a loss leader (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader).  It works out well for them because it brings in miners to smooth their variance, and brings more coin into their system which people might use to trade or purchase ghash.  Not everyone can use this business model.

Eligius is 0% but survives on donations, and the NMC, I believe, that some users do not care about.  This is also why they are able to pay out 105% on NMC.  Every other major pool charges a fee.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
Gh.io does merged mining of NMC, DVC, IXC, pays transaction fees and has no pool fees.

Cex allows easy trading of NMC and IXC into BTC.

All these factors support the popularity of GH.io and there is no other pool to match that.

How do you think they can offer fee-free mining? How is it paid for?

The losers above
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
Gh.io does merged mining of NMC, DVC, IXC, pays transaction fees and has no pool fees.

Cex allows easy trading of NMC and IXC into BTC.

All these factors support the popularity of GH.io and there is no other pool to match that.

How do you think they can offer fee-free mining? How is it paid for?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 504
Gh.io does merged mining of NMC, DVC, IXC, pays transaction fees and has no pool fees.

Cex allows easy trading of NMC and IXC into BTC.

All these factors support the popularity of GH.io and there is no other pool to match that.

Thats somewhat true. But the main reason is their cex.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Gh.io does merged mining of NMC, DVC, IXC, pays transaction fees and has no pool fees.

Cex allows easy trading of NMC and IXC into BTC.

All these factors support the popularity of GH.io and there is no other pool to match that.
hero member
Activity: 873
Merit: 1007
Other pools just need to step up their game and offer merged mining of atleast NMC for 0% fee.

As of today, gh.io is one of the best pools and therefore have the most miners.

p2pool is always nice too nad it supports the basic bitcoin idea, by further decentralizing the network.

You do realize that in the top 7 pools the majority have been doing merged mining before Ghash.IO/CEX.IO even existed right?
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 4158
Other pools just need to step up their game and offer merged mining of atleast NMC for 0% fee.

As of today, gh.io is one of the best pools and therefore have the most miners.

p2pool is always nice too nad it supports the basic bitcoin idea, by further decentralizing the network.
P2pool would not get blocks as frequently as those bigger pools. Pools need a fee to ensure that it can pay for the web hosting and server hosting and even ddos protection. The reason Ghash.io is able to achieve 0% fees is probably because they trade GHS and includes a trading fees there and also they might charge a higher maintenance fees for those hosted Hash power. This can be costly and most smaller pools simply cannot afford this.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Other pools just need to step up their game and offer merged mining of atleast NMC for 0% fee.

As of today, gh.io is one of the best pools and therefore have the most miners.

p2pool is always nice too nad it supports the basic bitcoin idea, by further decentralizing the network.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250


Do the right thing, the same thing BTC Guild did in 2013, and limit your damn power.  Quit trying to pretend you're innovative in any way.  You knew going into this game that getting too big was an issue and now you're trying to sidestep your responsibilities.

BTW, claiming you want to do a round table meeting and then expecting other pool operators to fly to London to do a CLOSED MEETING about this issue is in no way a solution to the problem.

When I look at the pool stats, https://blockchain.info/pools  ghash.io are 35% so where is this 51% problem supposed to be?

legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 4158
my hardware makes me a few like 0.00000200 a day but if I convert all of that to ghs I can make income of that to while btc will sit and do nothing. When I need to cash out I will trade back so I am secured. So holding is stupid I will let my income work for me then just sit in my wallet.
The price are not possible for ROI, unless you are so rich to throw away money to them, never expect to mine back the original amount.
hero member
Activity: 519
Merit: 502
its not them mining on the pool always. If you dont like it dont point your hardware to their pool
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
hero member
Activity: 519
Merit: 502
my hardware makes me a few like 0.00000200 a day but if I convert all of that to ghs I can make income of that to while btc will sit and do nothing. When I need to cash out I will trade back so I am secured. So holding is stupid I will let my income work for me then just sit in my wallet.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
Actually we dont lose money we dont make that much with maintenance. But moving from there is difficult I dont have much ghs in cloud there but about 2 usb antminer u2. While just waiting for you to collect enough btc to move to other sites it makes no sense. This way we make some money while we wait for it to build up. I want to get to 20Ghs cloud before I move from there. I am liking other sites too now.

Why mine at all? Just hodl
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