Yes I did followed what they needed. They paid me out last time as you can see the photo on AskGamblers. I will post it in here again. They paid me out, then when I withdraw all they hold it and needed the documents, which I gave right away. Now its been a month and 6 days to be exact since that.
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Topic: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal - page 11. (Read 4100 times)
Thanks for everyone who are on this and supporting.
I will wait for respond of Cloudbet/Ronnie. I hope they will reply soonest. I want to see what they will respond. Thank you to all and have a nice day
Albert
I will wait for respond of Cloudbet/Ronnie. I hope they will reply soonest. I want to see what they will respond. Thank you to all and have a nice day
Albert
In the event that Cloudbet refuse to pay out your winnings if you have followed their T&C’s, complied with KYC etc then they will be ruined.
What I’m interested in though is if they refuse to return your stake. If that’s the case then they should be closed down & arrested because that would be outright theft on a large scale. I would advocate jail time.
Edit - Seriously though OP, you should not be gambling with that kind of money with a crypto bookie. What were you thinking? I know it’s not the point but FFS, there’s always a chance this could happen with a somewhat unregulated service.
Thanks for everyone who are on this and supporting.
I will wait for respond of Cloudbet/Ronnie. I hope they will reply soonest. I want to see what they will respond. Thank you to all and have a nice day
Albert
I will wait for respond of Cloudbet/Ronnie. I hope they will reply soonest. I want to see what they will respond. Thank you to all and have a nice day
Albert
Nope, the way you reply already shows that you're an important part of OP in real life as you feel peeved away whenever I ask OP to show everyone their proof of deposit and trustworthiness on their issue.
My apologies if I come across as angry, it was not intentional. I'll leave it to the OP to answer questions concerning his addresses henceforth. I don't want to derail this thread or make it about me, but rather focus on why Cloudbet need over 35 days to make a legitimate payment. the 330 btc story is picking up pace on reddit, this is not looking good for you cloudbet: https://old.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/ao6txz/warning_bitcoin_sportbook_cloudbetcom_is_trying/
Reddit front page beckons.
Just out of curiosity, are you OP's personal assistant or hired lawyer? 
Feel free to direct this question to the OP.
Nope, the way you reply already shows that you're an important part of OP in real life as you feel peeved away whenever I ask OP to show everyone their proof of deposit and trustworthiness on their issue.
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Regarding signed messages. He does not have to because you asked him to, simple as that. What will it achieve? How does it help him? He has stated clearly above ^^^, that if Cloudbet should request it, and it resolves this matter once and for all, he will co-operate.
At least that signed message will prove his innocence and truth as well as help others by being stopped to play over there with such huge amounts as cloudbet used to be one of the most trustworthy sportsbetting sites where many players could trust to put their huge stack of coins. But after this gets confirmed and they are found guilty for real, who would be stupid enough to go and gamble there? It's not understandable here that why both the parties are playing crazy? At least one should pile up all the proofs, show them up and get this accusation come to a "Happy ending".
Just out of curiosity, are you OP's personal assistant or hired lawyer?
Feel free to direct this question to the OP.
Regarding signed messages. He does not have to because you asked him to, simple as that. What will it achieve? How does it help him? He has stated clearly above ^^^, that if Cloudbet should request it, and it resolves this matter once and for all, he will co-operate.
Not everybody wants their addresses and transactions published publicly on internet forums. Its not a matter of being brainwashed, its a matter of choice for whatever reasons and should be respected. Anyways, lets wait and see how Cloudbet responds.
It make sense. OP then can ask help from someone in the forum who is at-least a member in this forum to create an investigation topic in the investigations board. He can then give him the TXs and signed message so that the other guy can post it on behalf of him.I will be more than happy to create one topic for him to post those TXs and signed messages if he wants. Only the forum members who are at-least Member (rank) can see that topic.
Cloudbet has already acknowledged the OP both on here and on askgamblers.com. They don't deny the deposits were made. The deposits are not the issue here, the problem is with his withdrawal. So why do you want to open a separate investigation into whether the OP indeed made the deposits?
Cloudbets are asking for proof of ownership for the account, not for the deposit. Lets stay focused here. They have received every piece of document they requested. The account has 2fa enabled, and withdrawals need email confirmations, so what is the problem?
Why OP shouldn't provide with a message signed from that exact deposit address and give tx IDs? What's stopping them? I understand the fact that they're rather interested in staying anonymous with their transactions, but then, they came here (on this so-called internet forum only) in order to take help and ask cloudbet by opening a scam accusation against them. We're not really investigating the interrogator himself, it's just that if they just show the tx and a signed message from the same address, it'll put cloudbet under the red light (which they already are, after their shady behavior).
Just out of curiosity, are you OP's personal assistant or hired lawyer?
I hope they will respond ASAP and not drag and delay this again.
they have many cases of scam accusation, I wonder what are the chances these cases end well. in my opinion, this case should not have taken so many days to be solved... You have delivered a lot of documents, you have deposited a large amount of bitcoin and you have not cheated. so this case should not have taken so many days to be solved. If it were a real-life casino I do not think would have that problem. This is the problem of the crypto world: there is always some excuse for the casino not to pay, there is always somebody to cheats and to win and cause losses to casino
Can you provide an evidence that when exactly were you being contacted by users claiming that specific account to be theirs?
I also found it very strange this story
Like I said, I will wait for Cloudbet/Ronnie respond. If they needed that they would ask it. They would not wait for a month and 5 days to ask that. They will ask that right away if they need that. Only me can access my account since I got 2FA. Only me can withdraw since its needed a 2FA again. And only me can verify it on my email that I withdrawed. And I sent my documents. Thats how ownership should be right? and the owner is me. ONLY ME
Let them respond here. All of that ownership thing repeating always. And they even knew it already. As they replied on AskGamblers. I will wait there respond. And I hope its ASAP.
Albert
Let them respond here. All of that ownership thing repeating always. And they even knew it already. As they replied on AskGamblers. I will wait there respond. And I hope its ASAP.
Albert
Bazinga442 - There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided. That's about as detailed as I can be without disclosing private information about the account in question unfortunately.
How many of them have access to account? Documents, 2FA, and Email Verification. ONLY ME can do that. And ONLY ME can know that. That is the only thing as a ownership would be needed I guess. I hope they will respond ASAP and not drag and delay this again. Because its been a month and 5 days to be exact of waiting. Im sure if its in you in my place or situation, you will be frustrated and stressed too. I had been patient enough. I just hope Ronnie will just end this and send me my funds. And lets move on and be happy. Because I sent all documents already. Thank you.
Albert
Albert
As I wrote a few times in the topic and I am writing again. As the email from cloudbet was fake, the same they can consider your information sent is fake.
Figure out how to sign a message from the deposit addresses. What wallet have you used? Blockchain.com? If yes take out your priv keys (i don't know if blockchain.com still supports signing a message from their platform), add them in a electrum wallet and sign a message.
Documents, 2FA, and Email Verification. ONLY ME can do that. And ONLY ME can know that. That is the only thing as a ownership would be needed I guess. I hope they will respond ASAP and not drag and delay this again. Because its been a month and 5 days to be exact of waiting. Im sure if its in you in my place or situation, you will be frustrated and stressed too. I had been patient enough. I just hope Ronnie will just end this and send me my funds. And lets move on and be happy. Because I sent all documents already. Thank you.
Albert
Albert
Not everybody wants their addresses and transactions published publicly on internet forums. Its not a matter of being brainwashed, its a matter of choice for whatever reasons and should be respected. Anyways, lets wait and see how Cloudbet responds.
It make sense. OP then can ask help from someone in the forum who is at-least a member in this forum to create an investigation topic in the investigations board. He can then give him the TXs and signed message so that the other guy can post it on behalf of him.I will be more than happy to create one topic for him to post those TXs and signed messages if he wants. Only the forum members who are at-least Member (rank) can see that topic.
Cloudbet has already acknowledged the OP both on here and on askgamblers.com. They don't deny the deposits were made. The deposits are not the issue here, the problem is with his withdrawal. So why do you want to open a separate investigation into whether the OP indeed made the deposits?
Cloudbets are asking for proof of ownership for the account, not for the deposit. Lets stay focused here. They have received every piece of document they requested. The account has 2fa enabled, and withdrawals need email confirmations, so what is the problem?
Not everybody wants their addresses and transactions published publicly on internet forums. Its not a matter of being brainwashed, its a matter of choice for whatever reasons and should be respected. Anyways, lets wait and see how Cloudbet responds.
It make sense. OP then can ask help from someone in the forum who is at-least a member in this forum to create an investigation topic in the investigations board. He can then give him the TXs and signed message so that the other guy can post it on behalf of him.I will be more than happy to create one topic for him to post those TXs and signed messages if he wants. Only the forum members who are at-least Member (rank) can see that topic.
@OP,
As others said, there's nothing to hide here and signing message doesn't really need anyone's (especially cloudbet's) concerns but it should be your priority to give it immediately as it'll help you a lot in your case here and cloudbet will be proven (somehow) guilty trying to steal away your wins.
Signing the message and posting the tx addresses can give OP all the advantages of proving that he really is the real owner of that account and couldbet can not keep saying their BS. There will be no question left for his ownership after that.
Not everybody wants their addresses and transactions published publicly on internet forums. Its not an issue of being brainwashed, its a matter of choice for whatever reasons and should be respected. Anyways, lets wait and see how Cloudbet responds.
I will wait what will Ronnie/Cloudbet will say. Then ill do it. I will wait for his reply. My documents, the 2FA the email verification I guess is enough. But if they need something more, please tell me and tell me ASAP. Thank you
You have to figure it out if you can sign a message from at least some of your deposits addresses
@OP,
As others said, there's nothing to hide here and signing message doesn't really need anyone's (especially cloudbet's) concerns but it should be your priority to give it immediately as it'll help you a lot in your case here and cloudbet will be proven (somehow) guilty trying to steal away your wins.
Signing the message and posting the tx addresses can give OP all the advantages of proving that he really is the real owner of that account and couldbet can not keep saying their BS. There will be no question left for his ownership after that.
Bazinga442 - There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided. That's about as detailed as I can be without disclosing private information about the account in question unfortunately.
I'll post an update ASAP.
Thanks,
Ronnie @ Cloudbet
I'll post an update ASAP.
Thanks,
Ronnie @ Cloudbet
Can you provide an evidence that when exactly were you being contacted by users claiming that specific account to be theirs? Is our system so obsolete and easy to be beaten up when users still have got 2fa as well as an email set in their account? Why did you cancel OP's bet he made on SuperBowl? What was the specific reason to do that and how can anyone else other than OP knew about that bet and the win when it was done in private? So there doesn't stand a chance of anyone else contacting you to claim ownership of that account at first place.
@OP,
As others said, there's nothing to hide here and signing message doesn't really need anyone's (especially cloudbet's) concerns but it should be your priority to give it immediately as it'll help you a lot in your case here and cloudbet will be proven (somehow) guilty trying to steal away your wins.
And what happens if the funds were deposited from an exchange? I am not privy to this information, only the OP can say. Nonetheless, the 2fa and email confirmation is more than enough.
OP can confirm it.
However if the theory of sending back the btc where it came from works then OP just needs to confirm which address he want the 330BTC back. Send that BTC back there.
PS: Anyone who deposit that much money should use their own wallet not an exchange or third-party wallet which private key is not his own.
update:
I will wait what will Ronnie/Cloudbet will say. Then ill do it. I will wait for his reply. My documents, the 2FA the email verification I guess is enough. But if they need something more, please tell me and tell me ASAP. Thank you
Awesome.
Update
Archived: http://archive.is/IUgCM
I will wait what will Ronnie/Cloudbet will say. Then ill do it. I will wait for his reply. My documents, the 2FA the email verification I guess is enough. But if they need something more, please tell me and tell me ASAP. Thank you
And if he is willing to sign messages from from the deposit addresses, will this end the ownership investigations nonsense once and for all Ronnie? It is very sad that you're making players that trusted cloudbet.com jump through hoops and grovel to withdraw their funds.
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