Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal - page 7.

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Quote from: owlcatz on February 10, 2019, 08:14:56 PM

Albert. Hire a lawyer in your country and have them get involved - Do NOT give any info to game-protect. Roll Eyes

Very good advice, the Philippines have the best online casino claim enforcement lawyers in the world! Cheesy

Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 08:25:24 PM

I will never give anyone information.

Without the willingness to give your info to our lawyer, you can write off your coins!

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Swofty,

This is exactly what happened to my referral. He asked if he could bet under his circumstances and was told he could. Cloudbet assured him he could bet and be paid.

If your forum moaning strategy will fail, our lawyer is willing to enforce it on a contingency fee basis without the necessity to pay anything upfront.

1) If it will be successful, the law firm will reduce its part

2) If it will not be successful, claim is still valid and victim can do with it whatever he likes

I think it is better for the 3 of them to get together and join forces then get a US based lawyer to represent them.

No, according to DT2 member and "enforcement expert" owlcatz, he must hire a lawyer in the Philippines! Cheesy

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This makes interesting reading. Cloudbet accuse users of using "software" to win games then suspend their accounts as a way to selective scam:

https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/cloudbet-casino-problem-withdrawing-38-btc

Cloudbet Casino - posted on January 29, 2019. "Hi Ginalli, Our teams investigated your complaint, alongside our partners at Evolution Gaming"

Interesting way to try to scam customers.

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Quote from: owlcatz on February 10, 2019, 08:35:06 PM

Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 08:25:24 PM

I will never give anyone information.

Im waiting for Cloudbet to respond. And I just hope it is a solution respond. Not a new excuse to drag delay this case. Since they know all already about ownership. And they got the documents of KYC.

Albert

My point is - You could be waiting forever for nothing. There is ZERO excuse for not getting your coins yet, they are just being dicks hoping you forget it. Seriously, don't wait, get a lawyer where you live and take it upon yourself. That's over a million dollars. lol. Tongue

I concur. I agree with you but Swofty wants to wait to give the Cloudbet scammers more time even though this has been going on for over 40 days.

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Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 08:25:24 PM

I will never give anyone information.

Im waiting for Cloudbet to respond. And I just hope it is a solution respond. Not a new excuse to drag delay this case. Since they know all already about ownership. And they got the documents of KYC.

Albert

My point is - You could be waiting forever for nothing. There is ZERO excuse for not getting your coins yet, they are just being dicks hoping you forget it. Seriously, don't wait, get a lawyer where you live and take it upon yourself. That's over a million dollars. lol. Tongue

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I will never give anyone information.

Im waiting for Cloudbet to respond. And I just hope it is a solution respond. Not a new excuse to drag delay this case. Since they know all already about ownership. And they got the documents of KYC.

Albert

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Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 08:13:50 PM

Thanks guys for the support. Appreciate it so much.
I just hope when Cloudbet responds its a new one. Not new excuse, but a solution to solve this case.

Albert

Albert. Hire a lawyer in your country and have them get involved - Do NOT give any info to game-protect. Roll Eyes

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Thanks guys for the support. Appreciate it so much.
I just hope when Cloudbet responds its a new one. Not new excuse, but a solution to solve this case.

Albert

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Swofty,

This is exactly what happened to my referral. He asked if he could bet under his circumstances and was told he could. Cloudbet assured him he could bet and be paid.

If your forum moaning strategy will fail, our lawyer is willing to enforce it on a contingency fee basis without the necessity to pay anything upfront.

1) If it will be successful, the law firm will reduce its part

2) If it will not be successful, claim is still valid and victim can do with it whatever he likes

I think it is better for the 3 of them to get together and join forces then get a US based lawyer to represent them.

Which country is your lawyer based in?

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Quote from: Lauda on February 10, 2019, 04:40:43 PM

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Quote from: marlboroza on February 10, 2019, 03:50:09 PM

Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 03:40:11 PM

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

Cloudbet has offered zero answers. The only one telling there side is Swofty

This is what bothers me the most about this case. An explanation would be very welcome.

This is a known tactic from CloudBet. I don’t think they’ll respond anymore. OP- get a lawyer asap

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Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 03:40:11 PM

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too? Just like I said on AskGamblers on my complaint they easily sent me 40s 50s last time. But then this issue came.

Why they do not pay me after that? I dont know, what I know is that, they asked me for documents for KYC. which I provided right away, and as for you asking how many people access the account? I will answer it again for you.

ONLY ME is the owner of the account, ONLY ME knows the 2FA everytime I go to my account. And ONLY ME could verify the email everytime I withdraw. So here you go. The answer. I just hope Cloudbet will not come here and will respond about ownership, because they know already this and they actually replied into this ownership on AskGamblers. So they know.

Albert

With the greatest respect Albert/Swofty, please control your frustrations.

We all understand your issues and share your concerns. As mentioned before on several occasions we will try our best to stand alongside you and will try to help you get your funds back but whatever you do please post in a calm and polite manner to those trying to help you.

marlboroza is an active and highly respected member of this forum. He never alluded you faked anything, on the contrary he was being objective and trying to look at things from all angles. He is right, it does not make sense that the scammers at Cloudbet would allow you to withdraw large amounts of BTC on certain given days then suspend your account another day. Having said that, it does not mean that you have done anything wrong. Only the Cloudbet scammers can explain "how, who and why" they select their victims and I do not see them explaining their internal scam techniques here.

We are all going to stand by you. 335+ BTC is a huge amount of money to be scammed between the 3 of you so we will stand and confront the scammers alongside you but if we are on the same team we need to be patient with each other.

Thank you

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Quote from: marlboroza on February 10, 2019, 03:50:09 PM

Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 03:40:11 PM

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

Cloudbet has offered zero answers. The only one telling there side is Swofty

This is what bothers me the most about this case. An explanation would be very welcome.

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Quote from: marlboroza on February 10, 2019, 03:34:32 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on February 10, 2019, 02:24:59 PM

He has tried to withdraw over 330 BTC since 2nd January 2019 so 40 days ago and there is still no resolution because Cloudbet are trying to manufacture excuses to keep hold of crypto that belongs to the user.

If the image is real, player withdrew 50BTC the same day their 52BTC was rejected, day before 40BTC and 54BTC on Dec. 29. So why would they allowed player to withdraw 144BTC and then reject other withdrawals? Makes no sense.

The user mentioned in previous posts that he was allowed to make those withdrawals and deposits but all of a sudden without any notification the Cloudbet scammers starting pulling the "investigation" trick.

The motive behind why the Cloudbet scammers did it is something only they know and I cannot see them elaborating on why they did it. Maybe it has something to with the actual size of the winnings going over a particular threshold over a particular amount of days but it seems legitimate to me.

Cloudbet have not come forward to confirm nor deny what is going on with the claim of these 3 specific users but so far it seems on evidence of screenshots provided that Cloudbet have not only suspended the account but also frozen the funds so he cannot move them, not discounting the other issue which is refusal to payout the winnings that he won.

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Quote from: marlboroza on February 10, 2019, 03:50:09 PM

Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 03:40:11 PM

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

It would be nice if cloudbet makes an appearance and says something unambiguous. So far they have failed to properly address the issue, both on here and on askgamblers.com.

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Quote from: Swofty on February 10, 2019, 03:40:11 PM

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

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That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too? Just like I said on AskGamblers on my complaint they easily sent me 40s 50s last time. But then this issue came.

Why they do not pay me after that? I dont know, what I know is that, they asked me for documents for KYC. which I provided right away, and as for you asking how many people access the account? I will answer it again for you.

ONLY ME is the owner of the account, ONLY ME knows the 2FA everytime I go to my account. And ONLY ME could verify the email everytime I withdraw. So here you go. The answer. I just hope Cloudbet will not come here and will respond about ownership, because they know already this and they actually replied into this ownership on AskGamblers. So they know.

Albert

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 10, 2019, 02:24:59 PM

He has tried to withdraw over 330 BTC since 2nd January 2019 so 40 days ago and there is still no resolution because Cloudbet are trying to manufacture excuses to keep hold of crypto that belongs to the user.

If the image is real, player withdrew 50BTC the same day their 52BTC was rejected, day before 40BTC and 54BTC on Dec. 29. So why would they allowed player to withdraw 144BTC and then reject other withdrawals? Makes no sense.

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Quote from: marlboroza on February 10, 2019, 02:05:47 PM

Quote from: Lauda on February 10, 2019, 01:21:09 PM

Has OP stated whether the funds can be returned to the address that they came from or not?

I couldn't find it in this thread. OP only mentioned that they will sign message if Cloudbet ask them to sign it.

Can Cloudbet confirm this:

Thank you for posting the image.

The withdrawal attempts shown in the image along with dates involved put Cloudbet in a very sad and very bad light.

Selective scammers are among the lowest of the low thieves. This scam attempt has been going on since New Years Eve and Cloudbet claim there is an "investigation" on-going.

He has tried to withdraw over 330 BTC since 2nd January 2019 so 40 days ago and there is still no resolution because Cloudbet are trying to manufacture excuses to keep hold of crypto that belongs to the user.

Pathetic scammers.

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Quote from: Lauda on February 10, 2019, 01:21:09 PM

Has OP stated whether the funds can be returned to the address that they came from or not?

I couldn't find it in this thread. OP only mentioned that they will sign message if Cloudbet ask them to sign it.

Can Cloudbet confirm this:

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Quote from: marlboroza on February 10, 2019, 01:15:26 PM

Quote from: Lauda on February 10, 2019, 12:15:06 PM

as I've suggested earlier: Release the initial deposit and then investigate the winnings later.

They can't do that because they said:

Quote from: Cloudbet on February 07, 2019, 07:53:22 AM

There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided.

But Ronnie doesn't want to talk about:

Quote from: marlboroza on February 07, 2019, 01:58:52 PM

Regarding 330BTC scam accusation, how many people actually have access to account?

Has OP stated whether the funds can be returned to the address that they came from or not?

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Quote from: mdayonliner on February 10, 2019, 07:49:48 AM

Some thing made me surprised: I saw other day some of the DTs red tag but I can not see them now. Why did they remove them? Why are they so nice to couldbet?

Tag was for other scam accusation which was resolved.

Quote from: Lauda on February 10, 2019, 12:15:06 PM

as I've suggested earlier: Release the initial deposit and then investigate the winnings later.

They can't do that because they said:

Quote from: Cloudbet on February 07, 2019, 07:53:22 AM

There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided.

But Ronnie doesn't want to talk about:

Quote from: marlboroza on February 07, 2019, 01:58:52 PM

Regarding 330BTC scam accusation, how many people actually have access to account?

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