Topic: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal - page 8. (Read 4100 times)

If that is the case it means his crypto in stuck in limbo. if that is the case he is at the mercy of the Cloudbet scammers unless or until they unblock his account.

If this is what has happened it is an absolute disgrace that they have selective scammed these customers out of over 335 BTC.

@Ronnie - Do you really want to work for a scam outfit like Cloudbet? Your reputation is being tainted along with that of Cloudbet. Surely you and the customers that have been scammed deserve better.

by not being a part of the conversation, it does not mean they are not helping, there is simply nothing much to add to the conversation at this point.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=154563;dt

theb tagged them 3 days ago, so did i later on, and i am sure a few other DT members are waiting for some response from cloudbet, everyone treats every case differently, to me 1 month has passed and issue has not been resolved is long enough time to tag them, i am pretty sure that if they stale the case for a longer period of time, they will get more tags.

Busy with their lives I would guess. Being DT does not necessarily require you to help out in any of these cases. I've also tagged them now as this has gone on for way too long already; as I've suggested earlier: Release the initial deposit and then investigate the winnings later.

I guess he had access to the account, but couldn't withdraw. Then the account was closed after the superbowl bet.

Without a doubt they would have kept your money if you lost.  These types of shady casinos have it both ways, whatever suits them they will do it.


Too many people are here blaming the victim instead of blaming cloudbet.

While this "investigation" is going on your account is suspended/locked.

Do you have funds in your balance? Are able to withdraw them to your BTC wallet on your desktop or mobile?

I can open my account with that time, that is why I bet on Superbowl. Then it was locked with no notice that is why I emailed them, then they replied that. After that. No reply ever since.

If that bet lose I think they will take it. Just thinking. But since it won, they cancelled and refunded it and blocked my account. Since they are still "investigating" take note, it is February 4. I withdrawed on January 2, and they are still investigating.

Albert

So this Andy scammer from Cloudbet is stating your original bet was refunded back to your account?

When he stated your account is suspended does it mean you cannot withdraw your funds until their "investigation" is complete?

Not sure about PokerStars or any others but you know the reason why this questions was asked?

The ground is simple. Cloudbet is buying time and their excuse is that they are investigating. What if they don't have the actual fund? The signed address will at-least assure us that they have the fund to pay the OP and others.

PS: will anyone care to leave an opinion on this discussion please:  What happen if anyone endorse Cloudbet?

Well just to show some proofs. And take note this is the REAL Cloudbet representative

https://imgur.com/a/CVMZ8HP

Thats when they blocked my account and cancelled the superbowl bet


Ive won that bet BTW. so yeah.

I don't think is how it works. Have you ever eared someone asking PokerStars if they have money to pay a 10million dollars guaranteed tournament?
I mean they can do it but they are not obligated to do so.

Thank you for bringing that to my attention Bazinga442.

Does anybody know the exact total Cloudbet scammed from the OP and the other two users that are mentioned in the thread?

I had no idea the OP won more bets while the fake "investigations" were going on.

Cloudbet should hang their heads in shame and Ronnie should ask himself how he can continue to work as a front line customer services contact for a scam outfit.

It is more than that Jolly. They also screwed the OP for more BTC. Apparently, he placed bets from his balance on the super bowl during ongoing "investigations" and won. That prompted them to cancel his latest winnings and close the account. They did not stop him from placing the bet and something tells me that had he lost, it wouldn't have been an issue.


This. However, they should go one step further and just pay up.This bogus investigation is almost 40 days now. How long do they need?

Most welcome, it is always a pleasure trying to help or assist anybody that has been a victim of a scam.

One of the lowest of the low scammers are those that hide behind legitimate businesses and selective scam such as Cloudbet (and Rock Trading, Changelly, Changenow, HolyTansaction, FlypMe as well as several others). See the links in my Scam Alert signature for them.

One of their main tactics is to ask for KYC in order to force the hand of those that wish to remain anonymous. Even after receiving the ID/KYC these scammers do not release funds owed to the customer. They then start asking for proof of how the crypto was traded/purchased and when that is supplied they start saying the IP address of the first login to the last login was different and identity cannot be ascertained - and then they play more and more games in the hope that the customer gives up.

Thanks to this forum it has allowed victims to ask for help as well as expose the scammers. This forum allows all of us to gain traction to mobilise a defence against these scammers.

I was close to nearly adding Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature in the past but gave them the benefit of the doubt but after seeing the latest selective scamming attempt at the value of over 335 BTC I had no choice. I am glad I added Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.

This sounds good. Keep us updated and for any kind of help to provide information or any angle to observe about the case then feel free to post and ask. There are a lot of well wishers here who want you to get back your investment and winnings.

Thanks JollyGood I already sent a complaint to that one just now. Yeah I am waiting for there respond then we gonna make action, REAL ACTION if they dont pay me. I got all proofs. So its a 100% win for us. Thanks for the support guys.

I just hope Cloudbet or Ronnie will just end this case like everyone else, then we gonna move on and be happy.

Do not do anything they ask because you have done more than enough.

It is time for you to take action against the Cloudbet scammers.

Report them as mentioned in an earlier post:

STEP 1:
Inform the Curacao e-Gaming Officers. There is a link that states "File a Complaint": https://validator.curacao-egaming.com/validate?domain=www.cloudbet.com&seal_id=72b4de06acee4e455547f8fb68ee27aac984d38c2ac8748c8f26b103ab2fd4b0ff7a047a73882b22a671840fcb7d6827&stamp=eb0b0908c519a5fdad9cec28ca015971

STEP 2:
Use a US based lawyer to make contact with Cloudbet on behalf of the OP to advise them legal action will commence of they do not release rightful funds. The Cloudflare service they use is based in US and has US IP address therefore US law is applicable. This would not cost more than a few hundred dollars to get the ball rolling.

STEP 3:
Use your US lawyer to write to Cloudflare or call them and tell them Cloudbet is selective scamming users and that you are initiating legal action against Cloudbet. Request kindly that CLoudflare stop associating themselves with a scam outfit as it will mean they will get negative publicity as it might seem to some that they endorse such views: +44 20 3514 6970

Well I guess it's time for cloudbet to sign a message with an address which is holding more than 330BTC. In fact honestly speaking it should be really few times larger than the amount claimed here to see if they have the funds to cover the winnings of their customers.

Some thing made me surprised: I saw other day some of the DTs red tag but I can not see them now. Why did they remove them? Why are they so nice to couldbet?



I remember other day I seen tags from actmyname and Coolcryptovator but today they are not there.

If cloud bet don't have the funds to pay such big amounts, why did they let people to bet as high as this? I mean shouldn't they have a max bet restriction in the first place?

I know many casinos put a limit on your max. bets just to be able to cover the winnings of those lucky people but if cloudbet removed or didn't put it, then they have to pay that money and if they can't... things do not look very bright for them.

Think of these scenario:
1. They will not ask you about it
2. They will keep making excuses of investigating
3. They keep buying time until they pack up the business - declare bankrupt  

PS: Can we ask cloudbet to sing a message that they have the fund to pay 330BTC?