Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal - page 9.

Swofty

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The reason im not posting the sign message? I would do it IF cloudbet tell me to do that. Do you know what they needed? Only the documents. WHICH I GAVE it right away to them. And to the ownership issue. THEY KNOW already too since they respond to it into AskGamblers if you check into it. I posted my deposit. My withdrawal here already. Now I am waiting for there responds. And I hope its a new respond not the ownership not the investigation thing. Because they got all the informations. They know that im the only owner that could access it and they respond on it. So yeah im waiting for there respond.

To tell you the truth im not gonna respond any users here because I know I have proven all already. AND i dont want to give any information that would be USE to someone else and then Cloudbet will have another excuse to drag delay it.

Now you know. Dont worry I can provide ANYTHING. IF they will ask it.

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Quote from: Swofty on February 09, 2019, 10:38:18 AM

Thanks FrueGreads. I will just wait for there respond. Yes I just hope they will pay me and just move on and be happy.

Albert

Still you are waiting for their response? How long you will? There are a lot of people are telling you to take legal aid. If you want to wait more time then it's up to you however I would suggest you to hear some of the people here who really do not have any hidden agenda to suggest you what to do and what not to do.

You really need to take legal aid.

PS: Still you have not posted the txs and also a signed message? Can you at-least explain the reason of not to?

Thanks.

== By the way I wonder where are all these DTs except Lauda and marlboroza? Thanks Lauda and marlboroza for taking part in the conversation however where are the rest? I do not see them engaging in the conversation. Is there any hidden agenda? I also see people are still endorsing cloudbet even a global moderator. Why are the DTs so silent here?

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Hey Sandy,

The player won and is trying to get his withdrawal. The player has already sent in all the required documentation that was asked for by cloudbet and does not live in the United States.

You mentioned he probably lost a lot? You should read the full story before commenting. You can see above he is waiting on a 330 bitcoin payout. He also already withdrew 145 bitcoins

I would advise you the three people that Cloudbet scammed 335.2 BTC out of to follow the advice I gave in a previous post to start legal proceedings.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49649808

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Quote from: mikeywith on February 09, 2019, 08:45:33 PM

just don't , you should have hired a lawyer from day 1 , by accepting only the initial deposit, you are somehow weakening your position.

I have tagged Cloudbet until this issue is resolved.

I did not read the entire thread. Is the OP from the US (I can't tell)? If so he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on since an illegal "contract" cannot be enforced. The only thing that might work would be negative reputation pressure. That being said many years ago when it was (sorta) legal in the US this happened all the time dealing with off-shore casinos. It was always a fight to collect. We also had "organizations" who were supposed to represent us but rarely did they do any good. Those were the good old days but long gone except if you live in certain states.

As for the OP without knowing all the details and seeing all the docs and hearing both sides it's impossible to know what really is going and make a judgement other than he possibly lost a lot of coin. If

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Quote from: Cloudbet on February 07, 2019, 05:20:23 AM

Apologies for getting to the thread late, I've been at a conference this week.

so is this a 1 person company? nobody else is there to respond to clients?

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Quote from: Cloudbet on February 07, 2019, 06:53:22 AM

Bazinga442 - There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided. That's about as detailed as I can be without disclosing private information about the account in question unfortunately.

How many of them have access to account?

exactly my thought !

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Again I just want my 150 btc back and I will be happy.

just don't , you should have hired a lawyer from day 1 , by accepting only the initial deposit, you are somehow weakening your position.

I have tagged Cloudbet until this issue is resolved.

FrueGreads

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Quote from: Swofty on February 09, 2019, 10:38:18 AM

Thanks FrueGreads. I will just wait for there respond. Yes I just hope they will pay me and just move on and be happy.

Albert

Ok, it will always be your decision. I just decided to let you know, because you probably didn't knew the thread. Also, please keep in mind that all votes there can be changed with time. So even if you decided to leave a Scam Alert there (vote with 0), you could always change your vote later, when things get solved.

Swofty

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Thanks FrueGreads. I will just wait for there respond. Yes I just hope they will pay me and just move on and be happy.

Albert

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Quote from: aioc on February 09, 2019, 09:51:39 AM

Glad that you did the guy lost a big amount and he tries everything to recover it, I bet this is not an isolated case whatever the case we should not question about his deposit, he won it and he deserves to get his winnings or people might think if you win big, you are not going to get your earnings

Cloudbet deserved to be added to my Scam Alert signature.

I absolutely agree with you. The fact remains that he won and deserves to get his winnings regardless of his reasons to deposit the quantity of BTC he decided he wanted to gamble.

This certainly is not an isolated case because at least 3 people have come forward with funds totaling over 335.2 BTC frozen "while investigations take place".

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Jolly just a clarification... Swofty is the user due 330 bitcoin. My claim with Cloudbet is for 3.5 bitcoin. Young American user is due 1.7 bitcoins I believe.

FrueGreads

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@Swofty

Hello Swofty. The user stomachgrowls, made a post on my Sports books Ranking thread, informing me of your problems with Cloudbet.

You can read it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49657797

And here is my reply to him:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49659379

Like I've explained there, please feel free to vote on my thread (either for Cloudbet, or for any other bookie you are familiar with).

It could help raise awareness to your problem, and it could help other users as well.

My thread is completely user generated, so I do my best not to pick sides. If you choose to vote there, I will just collect the vote, and link this Thread to mine (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sports-book-rankings-completely-user-generated-1820529).

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 09, 2019, 08:21:33 AM

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 09, 2019, 04:21:05 AM

Just goes to show Cloudbet were happy to accept the deposits without asking questions but when they had make payouts they pulled the KYC and "under investigation" card.

Yes, that is exactly their fraud scheme as explained here Cloudbet scam money owed?

Quote from: JollyGood on February 09, 2019, 04:21:05 AM

I think I will give it a few hours more then will add Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.

I think you adding Fraudbet to your Scam Alert signature will break their neck! Cheesy

Thank you for the link game-protect, it is good to see more and more people coming together to expose Cloudbet as selective scammers: https://game-protect.com/cloudbet-scam/

Cloudbet is now added to my Scam Alert signature

Glad that you did the guy lost a big amount and he tries everything to recover it, I bet this is not an isolated case whatever the case we should not question about his deposit, he won it and he deserves to get his winnings or people might think if you win big, you are not going to get your earnings

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 09, 2019, 04:21:05 AM

Just goes to show Cloudbet were happy to accept the deposits without asking questions but when they had make payouts they pulled the KYC and "under investigation" card.

Yes, that is exactly their fraud scheme as explained here Cloudbet scam money owed?

Quote from: JollyGood on February 09, 2019, 04:21:05 AM

I think I will give it a few hours more then will add Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.

I think you adding Fraudbet to your Scam Alert signature will break their neck! Cheesy

Thank you for the link game-protect, it is good to see more and more people coming together to expose Cloudbet as selective scammers: https://game-protect.com/cloudbet-scam/

Cloudbet is now added to my Scam Alert signature

JollyGood

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These are huge amounts of BTC to deposit.

Just goes to show Cloudbet were happy to accept the deposits without asking questions but when they had make payouts they pulled the KYC and "under investigation" card.

I think I will give it a few hours more then will add Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.

Swofty

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No updates at all. On email, on AskGamblers and here too no answers.

Ronnie, please do the right thing. And just resolve this and lets move on. This is the most stressful month and in going i experience in my life. Please just end this case and stop dragging delaying it. Thank you

Albert

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I have asked the user many times to provide a signed message from the address he sent the bitcoin from, each time he avoided to answer my questions; however I am totally against what Cloudbet is doing right now.

Following the case on askgamblers for more than 3 weeks I have noticed changes in his behaviour, if you have seen his last post he asks to receive at least 150 btc to this address:

Code:

12jgLb2hLRbtBdUaxjs4FLkuA98FKdkzz7

Why is he not asking to receive back from an address he did the deposit from?

Here are his deposits: https://imgur.com/a/uq8IkzH

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Also I want to make clear that I deposit over 129 bitcoin to cloudbet and I think you can at least send thst amount back to me before you identify check is over. Is that too much to ask Ronnie? I would like to official ask on ask gamblers for you to send back the amount I deposit. 129 bitcoin. The remainder we can wait for identity check. These are my savings and I need my coin.

He gambled his savings and how he is acting proves that he is not desperete.

Not my business, I am watching closely hot and cold wallets of Cloudbet, this ammount is extremly high for them to pay but they have to.

some parts of this story are weird

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Quote from: Swofty on February 08, 2019, 08:38:04 PM

I am sure, Ronnie will step up and do what is right. Well atleast he will do it. He knows that I already prove everything.

I hope he will respond soonest.

Albert

By curiosity, you said that this money will change your family life. What was in your head when you deposited 129 bitcoin to gamble?

Swofty

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I am sure, Ronnie will step up and do what is right. Well atleast he will do it. He knows that I already prove everything.

I hope he will respond soonest.

Albert

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 08, 2019, 06:12:53 PM

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Thanks! All are a great idea... The cloudflare idea is awesome!

If you think there is any way in which forum members can help you or assist you please post here and let us know. I am sure there are many members that will support you.

This is a serious matter. 330 BTC is a massive amount to defraud so in this case consider me on your side. We will explore all avenues to try to get your funds back.

Jolly just a clarification... Swofty is the user due 330 bitcoin. My claim with Cloudbet is for 3.5 bitcoin. Young American user is due 1.7 bitcoins I believe.

We have all been trying to help each other in anyway possible.

Thank you so much for your help.

That equates to 335.2 BTC and at todays rate that is around $1,221,468

Those are huge numbers to be scammed out of.

All three of you should get together, get a lawyer based in the US and have him/her represent the three of you. Just legal correspondence from your lawyer to the Curacao E-Gaming team will have a massive effect on Cloudbet. On top of that a direct letter to the Cloudbet owners and Cloudflare will make them return your funds fast because they will not want to appear in Court or lose the service provided by Cloudflare or lose their E-Gaming licence.

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Thanks! All are a great idea... The cloudflare idea is awesome!

If you think there is any way in which forum members can help you or assist you please post here and let us know. I am sure there are many members that will support you.

This is a serious matter. 330 BTC is a massive amount to defraud so in this case consider me on your side. We will explore all avenues to try to get your funds back.

JollyGood

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Quote from: Patatas on February 08, 2019, 04:01:49 PM

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Quote from: Rambotnic on February 08, 2019, 02:27:43 PM

Seems like none of you get that Cloudbet don't give a fuck what you guys discuss or talk here.

We get it... Cloudbet won’t last much longer if this keeps up.

That won't be so bad case for them, they already won millions euro via anonymous hosted casino.

What’s your point?

I already stated my point. Cloudbet do not care what all of you write here, do you support or not support the case.
They already won enough to say goodbye if they want.
No matter how you courage the OP or dislike, that won't change anything but could also bring fake hopes.

So you mean it's totally okay for gambling sites to establish some reputation and then steal people's money blatantly? How long the community is going to tolerate it? This isn't the first incident of a massive withdrawal being robbed. Someone has to stop it.

Moreover, it affects the reputed gambling sites by giving the crypto gambling business a bad name. I don't know why the victims don't involve law.

I think in this case the website is selective scamming, they are trying to wriggle out of allowing the user access to his 330 BTC. The user gave them what they asked for (KYC which was unnecessary but used as a delay tactic by Cloudbet and nearly all betting and gaming websites when they selective scam).

I think the OP is right in waiting for a few days more. If it is not resolved he must consider legal action.

STEP 1:
Inform the Curacao e-Gaming Officers. There is a link that states "File a Complaint": https://validator.curacao-egaming.com/validate?domain=www.cloudbet.com&seal_id=72b4de06acee4e455547f8fb68ee27aac984d38c2ac8748c8f26b103ab2fd4b0ff7a047a73882b22a671840fcb7d6827&stamp=eb0b0908c519a5fdad9cec28ca015971

STEP 2:
Use a US based lawyer to make contact with Cloudbet on behalf of the OP to advise them legal action will commence of they do not release rightful funds. The Cloudflare service they use is based in US and has US IP address therefore US law is applicable. This would not cost more than a few hundred dollars to get the ball rolling.

STEP 3:
Use your US lawyer to write to Cloudflare or call them and tell them Cloudbet is selective scamming users and that you are initiating legal action against Cloudbet. Request kindly that CLoudflare stop associating themselves with a scam outfit as it will mean they will get negative publicity as it might seem to some that they endorse such views: +44 20 3514 6970

These are probably US based citizens running Cloudbet but as they would never get a gambling licence from the US they used an easily available Curacao E-Gaming Licence which anybody can get by registering the offshore LLC there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curaçao

As long they are in the US or as US based citizens running Cloudbet it should be very easy for a lawyer to send them a letter and ask for your funds.

Hopefully this will speed up the process of you and others getting their funds back.

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