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So apparently i can't access cloudbet anymore cuz i'm in the netherlands. I hope they let me withdraw my balance, but I kind've expect not

https://imgur.com/a/9nGB0JN

Offhand, there's the way bitcointalk does it. Allow vpns and previously banned ips but disable certain abilities. So a site could disable bonuses/promotions/affiliate activity, etc on ips that are vpns or have been banned before.

My guess is that they don't filter IPs in database for specific country but they have right to ask reason behind using VPN. Asking KYC from customers is enough to solve this issues imho. Out of curiosity, if management have no strict rules against VPN then how they fight against promotion abusers..

I don't know Cloudbet's position on this issue. But I know that many players from Russia play via VPN in cloudbet and they have no problems. In Russia, blocked all betting sites except sites licensed in Russia. More recently, cloudbet did not require anything about vpn maybe the policy has changed ?

Wait a second! You claim that I made false accusations against casinos, but you are not able to deliver proof of your claim?

Instead of delivering proof of your claim, you demand from me to deliver proof of something I never did?

Are you mentally ill?

Hello, Ronnie. From today it is impossible to get to Your website from the Netherlands and Australia have you restricted these territories too ? You write about the ban on VPN but You played a lot of players from Russia as far as I know in Russia You do not restrict, but the Internet providers of Russia blocked Your website from Russia without VPN it is not possible to get. I play you more than a year through the VPN I'm from Russia and no one forbade me to put You. How to be players from Russia ? Your position about VPN for players from Russia ?

You should ask all bitcoin that you lost betting there, cause they said they will refund if betting from restricted country.

We will see if they will lie again (probably will).

You can tell me because the answer to your is all written on the red trust giving to you by people like Rhavar,Stunna, Suchmoon etc.

I have no reason to lie or say things which are not genuine. As I said earlier the answer is glaring and all written on your trust.


No, neither will I believe every accusations which was make or supported by you if I dont any genuine evidence to proof the accusation were truth. However, the cloud bet representative is still responding to every question the accuser asked and I believe you need to make things hard for the both parties because the forum staff have already intervene into the situation.

Did you ask me? I do not know. I'm not connected with Cloudbet and do not have any contacts with them.

I have used sports book and a bit of slots  at Cloudbet for 4/5 months, based in Australia. Probably lost .4/.5 btc overall. Small ball regular small deposit but I enjoy micro sports bets for interest. Was playin a slot a few hours ago had only about .002 btc in account (lol) went to exit the slot and got error message saying Australia is restricted territory so I’m blocked. Had about .002 bal and about .002 pending bets and now locked out, no warning. Confused as didn’t know Australia banned obviously as no problem betting depositing etc. have mentioned to support I’m in Australia multiple times and told all good initially when signing up. Small amount but what the hell

Good call. I think for the rest of us used to it, we know which users are just spamming their service (which itself has a lot of trust ratings),,, and which are actually trying to help. The guy is almost in every thread just not being very helpful.

Back to topic though, why is Cloudbet not saying there the company is? I thought they already said their license is from Montenegro?

Do we expect to hear from cloudbet team ?
Several complaints are in the just last few time.

Thank you but it is not needed. I think it is very important to attach screenshots along with the text, because screenshots is more trusted evidence.

they also refuse to pay 38 btc to one of my friend. he lost lots of money and when he earn once they show their real face. and they get a report from evolution gaming just telling he used the roullette interface to save his bets.

this is the dispute he has written by his words. :

 I have been playing at Cloudbet since September 2018 and never had issues, but this time I had and nobody replies besides the casino marketing guy through WhatsApp and every time he says something else.

But there is some shady thing that i want to mention. Here is what happened. I play Live Roulette game from January 11th until 14th. 95% I lose since September. Anyone knows the game, will agree, that it's really hard to win. Anyway, after I played long hours I had 38 BTC and I requested withdraw. My account is suspended.

PLEASE SEE ATTACHED PROOFS!
Player Risk Analysis Report from EvolutionGaming
Screenshots with all representatives from Cloudbet

First of all, this report was prepared on Jan 20th, when i contacted them on Jan 25th they told me they still waiting for the report. They sent me the report yesterday which is 28th.

Second, the report says that I played from saved bets, which is correct because the platform gives you an option to save your bets and play, or you can play repeat bets. If you play like that and win they tell you this is not the right way to play SO WHY DO YOU HAVE THIS OPTION ON YOUR PLATFORM?

Third, the report says that I placed my bets from saved bets average of 4 seconds before the ball dropped which might be correct but again, the platform let you bet after they span the ball, so if you don't want the player play like that why do you have that option on the game.

Fourth, when they made this report they are stating Cloudbet that they will keep watching my actions and asking Cloudbet let them know if they want to block my account. So in another word they don't know my account was blocked on the day of withdraw. So Cloudbet blocking the account and waits for couple days and then take actions and find excuses not to pay. I think they get the winning from the casinos and gain some time and never pay the big winning.

Fifth, the report states that I opened the account on Sep. 25th, 2018, but they analyze only from Jan 11-14th. If they go back and analyze all my play from Sep. 25th - Jan. 14th, they will see that I always play the same way and I have been loosing.
So in reality if there is a software how i have been loosing...
I really want to thank to this website to be our (victims) voice!
I did not cheat nor used any software, I am a businessman and I like to gamble, but this is stealing.


PLEASE SHARE WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW ABOUT CLOUDBET.COM SCAM!

DO NOT RISK YOUR MONEY because even if you win you will never get it.

CLOUDBET.COM trick people, I think they get the winnings from the casinos and then block your account.
If there is software like that, how come I have been loosing?

Please DON'T insult people! If you will check the history you will see how I have been playing.
Again thank you for this website and everyone who is responded and shared my concern!

38 BTC it is a lot of money and this is not profit. Only that day I deposit more than 11 BTC to that account to play and after I got lucky I ended up withdrawing 38 BTC.

P.S: i will uplod risk report and chat pics

Hey.

You seem to be a bit new here. Look at game protect trust rating.

it simply means you should ignore the guy. That's all you need to do

cheers

Can you attach screenshots please?

This is normal for shady companies operating illegally. And cloudbet seem borderline shady to me. The amounts involved are mind boggling, they owe someone on askgamblers 330 bitcoins: https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/cloudbet-casino-delayed-330-btc-payment

Is cloudbet's country of origin a mystery?

I see you are offering services against the casino scams for the players you should know about these information better than any of us.

If they can force KYC on the players then their company information should be accessible but I can't seem to find anything about "Halcyon Super Holdings B.V."

Also they claim that they are licensed by E-Gambling Montenegro and Curaçao (a Caribbean country) eGaming. Maybe contacting them would lead to some answers.

It was easy.

The footer of the website says:

"Copyright © 2019, Halcyon Super Holdings B.V. All rights reserved."


I did a quick search on google and found this:


But now you mentioned it I dug a bit more and found another 2 companies with the same name and one of them is from the US and the other is from the Netherlands.

https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/8987694Z:NA-halcyon-holding-bv
Corporate Information
Address:
Goolkatenweg 55
Enschede, 7521 BE
Netherlands

https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=62070237
8455 Beverly Boulevard Penthouse
Los Angeles, CA 90048
United States


At this point I am not sure which one is cloudbet. Taking a wild guess, it is probably the one in the Netherlands because it has "BV" on its name. The others don't.

As much as I'd like to see them doing it, it is probably not an option. As far as I know cloudbet is company from Ireland and I recently read in the forum that in the Netherlands KYC is not forced. (This still needs a confirmation) It seems like the only way out of this is to move the company from Ireland to somewhere else where they don't care about KYC. Otherwise, KYC will stay.