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Quote from: Tamilson on July 17, 2019, 09:12:44 PM

Personally, much better if they focus on delays on cardless transactions.

Like what delays? For now...

Bank = ok
Remittances = ok
GCASH = ok
LBC = ok

Or you mean the Egivecash? Di na to operational for months now. Refer to the updated terms of Security Bank if bakit. In other words, puwede na ring iconsider na wala na yang withdrawal option na yan sa coins.ph.

Ang mas magandang update is alisin na lang nila to sa withdrawal options nila para wala ng umasa since parang malabo na mabalik yan dahil mandatory ang KYC ng mga beneficiaries ng EgiveCash - for full features and advantages like limits (puwede naman non-KYC pero sobrang liit ng amount (below Php 5,000) and if below nga dyan pero regular ang withdrawal, proned na sya sa KYC).

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Quote from: LbtalkL on July 17, 2019, 04:16:35 AM

Sino pabor dito na ma add sa next update yung Convert All option sa coins ph kung mag convert btc to php, etc.. Mas maka save ng time sa pagconvert hindi na mag input manually lalo na sa eth maraming decimals.

Ok din naman yan pero siguro mas ok if mag focus na lang sa ibang aspect for update. I mean di naman sobrang hassle yung mag type ng digits.

Personally, much better if they focus on delays on cardless transactions.

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Quote from: LbtalkL on July 17, 2019, 04:16:35 AM

Sino pabor dito na ma add sa next update yung Convert All option sa coins ph kung mag convert btc to php, etc.. Mas maka save ng time sa pagconvert hindi na mag input manually lalo na sa eth maraming decimals.

Or i-clicked na lang iyong Available Balance na gaya sa mga trading sites pag naglalapag ng order.

Ok din aman yan. Pero lagyan nila ng at leat 1-2 prompt for confirmation. Baka nagkamali lang kasi iyong iba although unlikely. Sa ngayon kasi kapag magcoconvert, ang kadalasang prompt lang is pag nagbago ang price rate.

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Quote from: LbtalkL on July 17, 2019, 04:16:35 AM

Sino pabor dito na ma add sa next update yung Convert All option sa coins ph kung mag convert btc to php, etc.. Mas maka save ng time sa pagconvert hindi na mag input manually lalo na sa eth maraming decimals.

Ok naman yan pero di mo naman kailangan saulihin yung digits kasi nakalagay naman yun kapag mag coconvert ka na wala pang sampung segundo itype yon kung sakali pero still good suggestion yon para sa mga nag coconvert ng lahat ng coin nila.

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Sino pabor dito na ma add sa next update yung Convert All option sa coins ph kung mag convert btc to php, etc.. Mas maka save ng time sa pagconvert hindi na mag input manually lalo na sa eth maraming decimals.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 15, 2019, 12:15:24 AM

Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:52 PM

D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

This is wrong, and bitcoin is not actually a source of income, you need to be specific.
Just stay you earn bitcoin on your online job or your earn it on trading, they just need that specific information and you can surely have an account in any bank. Bitcoin is not illegal in the philippines and coins.ph and banks are both regulated by the BSP, so I don't see a problem on that.

Agree, I don't see any problems if you trlling the truth to them where you earn money because we still have supporr by the government and that BSP. Bitcoin population and people who know bitcoin and who have using it still growing in our country right now so I think that is acceptance and even banks.

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Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 15, 2019, 11:01:06 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 15, 2019, 10:28:05 AM

Hmm bakit napunta sa pag-open ng bank account?

Ang pinopoint ng iba is magkaroon ng other cardless transaction option sa "coins.ph withdrawal option". Therefore, ang mag-iinitiate ng transaction is coins.ph and aantayin na lang ng mga users is iyong claiming details like codes and PINS. The usual way gaya nung sa EgiveCash. No need bank accounts.

Pero gaya ng sabi ko malabo sa ngayon yan. Refer na lang sa previous reply ko.

Yang subject na pag open ng bank account is another story na.

You need banks to make cardless transaction through bank's atm. I'm pointing out that if opening a bank account with the source of bitcoin is a hassle, partnering with other banks and asking to make cardless transaction will be hassle too. There's a reason why Egivecash is always on maintenance, it's to avoid money laundering. They need verification on where that money goes that's why it's easier to cash out through Gcash/LBC and through card transactions.

Obviously yes, you need banks service to make cardless transactions. Ang gusto nga kasi mangyari ng iba, sana same feature with EgiveCash na si coins.ph na ang bahala, hoping lang naman. Look at my reply there na nasabi ko malabo talaga.

So in here, since coins.ph is a big company, registered and complying with the rules of BSP (which is more stricter than before), they might be consider. As big business, marami silang legal documents na puwede ipakita and they are not really purely on crypto service but working as a local payment processor na rin dito sa country.

Sa reply mo kasi ang nirerefer mo is iyong individual, not a company, based sa requirements na sinabi mo. I got your point naman medyo lumiko lang ng unti dun sa ibig kong sabhin sa previous post. Pero hayaan mo na wag na natin pahabain. After all, puro opinyon lang tayo dito at wala tayo sa position to know kung ano ang pwede mangyari if ever coins.ph request for partnership.

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Quote from: harizen on July 15, 2019, 10:28:05 AM

Hmm bakit napunta sa pag-open ng bank account?

Ang pinopoint ng iba is magkaroon ng other cardless transaction option sa "coins.ph withdrawal option". Therefore, ang mag-iinitiate ng transaction is coins.ph and aantayin na lang ng mga users is iyong claiming details like codes and PINS. The usual way gaya nung sa EgiveCash. No need bank accounts.

Pero gaya ng sabi ko malabo sa ngayon yan. Refer na lang sa previous reply ko.

Yang subject na pag open ng bank account is another story na.

You need banks to make cardless transaction through bank's atm. I'm pointing out that if opening a bank account with the source of bitcoin is a hassle, partnering with other banks and asking to make cardless transaction will be hassle too. There's a reason why Egivecash is always on maintenance, it's to avoid money laundering. They need verification on where that money goes that's why it's easier to cash out through Gcash/LBC and through card transactions.

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Quote from: Muzika on July 12, 2019, 01:58:55 AM

Quote from: bhadz on July 12, 2019, 12:13:52 AM

Quote from: kissmarx on July 11, 2019, 09:00:35 AM

Wala akong natanggap na anumang text message from Security Bank. Ewan ko ba bat hanggang ngayon disabled pa ang cashout method na yan. If Security bank is making it hard for us or coins.ph mismo. Why not coins.ph add another bank that can handle cardless transactions? Suggestion ko sa coins.ph: Metrobank can do it. PSBank can also do it. Why not do it? We are living in the most modern world yet. So Just do it.

Naalala ko yung PSBank may cardless din sila pero kasi depende pa rin yan kay coins.ph kung ano yung implement nila. Lagi naman nilang sinasabi na kinokonsider nila yung mga suggestion natin pero hindi rin ganun kadali siguro sa part nila na ibigay lang basta basta lahat ng mga gusto natin as users. Matagal na akong hindi gumagamit ng EGC kasi nga ang daming mga delays tapos ngayon na may panibagong request pa galing mismo kay Security Bank, malabo ko na gamitin yang service nila maliban nalang kung mag open ako ng account sa kanila. Kung gusto makatipid sa fees, try niyo yung bank deposit sa Metro Manila accounts walang charge pero pag outside siguro 50 pesos lang.

Yes sir mayroon ding cardless ang PSBank kasi sa pagkakaalam ko under sila ng metrobank company e ang metrobank meron na silang cardless di lang talaga tayo gaanong familiar kasi nga hindi pa natin nagagamit sa transactions natin kay coins.ph. Sa personal ko naman dahil nga di na maganda ang service ni EGC di ko na din ito ginagamit couple of months ago siguro simula nung nagbalik ito after nung matagal na nawala wala pang 5 times kong ginamit ang EGC pero talagang consistent sila sa di magandang service kaya di ko na din ginamit na.

Gusto ko rin sana ma-try yun at pwede ko na rin I-adopt pero mas okay talaga kung meron talagang paggagamitan tulad ng galing kay coins.ph. Ang hirap kasi talaga ng EGC kung hindi maintenance, pagtagal tagal ng delay yung expected arrival ng code hindi na nasunod kaya nga nagsawa na ako sa method na yan. Tipid at mabilis sana siya dati kaso ang problema kasi sinasabi ni coins.ph galing na daw yan mismo sa security bank at wala na silang kinalaman doon.

Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:52 PM

D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

Naalala niyo somewhere last year or two years ago ba yun yung pinapa-update lahat ng info sa mga banks? nasabi ko na bitcoin part time source ng income ko at parang wala naming paki yung staff at hindi rin naman na close account ko.

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Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:52 PM

Malabo makipagpartnership sa ibang banks ang coins.ph through cardless transaction. Most of the banks ay kontrolado ng central bank and central bank not fully accepted bitcoin. D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

Hmm bakit napunta sa pag-open ng bank account?

Ang pinopoint ng iba is magkaroon ng other cardless transaction option sa "coins.ph withdrawal option". Therefore, ang mag-iinitiate ng transaction is coins.ph and aantayin na lang ng mga users is iyong claiming details like codes and PINS. The usual way gaya nung sa EgiveCash. No need bank accounts.

Pero gaya ng sabi ko malabo sa ngayon yan. Refer na lang sa previous reply ko.

Yang subject na pag open ng bank account is another story na.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 15, 2019, 12:15:24 AM

Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:52 PM

D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

This is wrong, and bitcoin is not actually a source of income, you need to be specific.
Just stay you earn bitcoin on your online job or your earn it on trading, they just need that specific information and you can surely have an account in any bank. Bitcoin is not illegal in the philippines and coins.ph and banks are both regulated by the BSP, so I don't see a problem on that.

Pwede pala ito kasi one time nga mag oopen sana ako ng account sa BDO sabi ko freelancer tapos ang kinikita e cryptocurrency tapos sabi nung manager don ano daw talaga ang ginagawang trabaho ang sabi ko naman palusot ko lang e account manager ang sabi naman basta sa crypto nanggagaling yung income talagang di nila pinapayagan na magkaroon ng account.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 15, 2019, 12:15:24 AM

Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:52 PM

D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

This is wrong, and bitcoin is not actually a source of income, you need to be specific.
Just stay you earn bitcoin on your online job or your earn it on trading, they just need that specific information and you can surely have an account in any bank. Bitcoin is not illegal in the philippines and coins.ph and banks are both regulated by the BSP, so I don't see a problem on that.

I don't mentioned or said that bitcoin is illegal, what I said is "not fully accepted". You need company name, employer contact number, proof-of-billing (for address verification) and certificate of employment to apply for a bank account. Most of crypto paying jobs doesn't have this kind of documents. Luckily that I have an online job on that time. One of my friend said, if you have a business, you need certification from DTI/BIR and some documents that shows proof that you owned a business. You can't say that your source of funds directly is from bitcoin or trading from bitcoin instead you need to say where are the funds come from for trading bitcoin.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 15, 2019, 12:15:24 AM

Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:52 PM

D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

This is wrong, and bitcoin is not actually a source of income, you need to be specific.
Just stay you earn bitcoin on your online job or your earn it on trading, they just need that specific information and you can surely have an account in any bank. Bitcoin is not illegal in the philippines and coins.ph and banks are both regulated by the BSP, so I don't see a problem on that.

Tama. This is what I did when I opened an account in BDO. What we do is an online job kung saan we earn by trading bitcoin / crypto. With this information, I was even granted a permanent importer's code from the BSP via BDO.

And it is good that the BSP is now more crypto-friendly than ever. I read from the news that there are about 13 Philippine companies now na accredited by the BSP to transact with cryptos.

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Quote from: SuicidalDemon69 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:52 PM

D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

This is wrong, and bitcoin is not actually a source of income, you need to be specific.
Just stay you earn bitcoin on your online job or your earn it on trading, they just need that specific information and you can surely have an account in any bank. Bitcoin is not illegal in the philippines and coins.ph and banks are both regulated by the BSP, so I don't see a problem on that.

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Malabo makipagpartnership sa ibang banks ang coins.ph through cardless transaction. Most of the banks ay kontrolado ng central bank and central bank not fully accepted bitcoin. D ka makakapag-open ng bank account once na sinabi mo na source of income mo ay bitcoin.

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Lately, puro problema ang napag uusapan dito sa thread. Last July 12th, I received an email from coins.ph at sa part ko isa itong magandang balita. Share ko dito, just in case merong hindi nakareceive o hindi pa nakakabasa.

So from 10 AM, na adjust na yung time para ma-receive pa din ang cash out on the same day through BPI or Security bank. Cheesy

Good news, dati kasi medyo hassle kapag kailangan na ngayong araw tapos 10 AM ang cut off (kahit andyan si GCASH, imo mas okay pa din through bank).

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Kung hindi pa viable sa coins.ph ang sariling ATM machine, tama ang sabi nyo na kahit man lang coins.ph ATM card na accredited ng Mastercard, Visa, Bancnet, megalink, o expressnet.

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Quote from: meldrio1 on July 12, 2019, 05:23:58 AM

Oo nga noh mas maganda na may sarili silang ATM machine total umaasenso naman ang coins.ph marami na nga ang mga users.

Good idea kaya lang matagal na proseso yan and I siguro di yan icoconsider ng coins.ph para lang sa purpose na icover iyong nawalang EgiveCash option sa withdrawal nila.

Mas maganda nga if mag established na lang sila ng sariling ATM card na lang gaya ng sabi ni harizen. They created a virtual card dati db so ibig sabihin may chance na puwede nila iconsider iyong pagkakaroon ng sariling ATM nila. Just like mobile banking ng mga banks today.

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Mas malabo yang magtayo ng sariling ATM Machine. Saka for sure sa mga Metro lang to. Pero ok rin.

Pero ang pinaka maliwanag na puwede mangyari kaysa mag established ng machines, is to established their own ATM card na supported ng Bancnet, Megalink or Visa etc. para puwede sa majority ng ATM bank machines.

Look at GCASH as a great example. Puwede sa majority ng ATM's. Kaya convenient ang coins.ph to GCASH withdrawal since anytime pwedeng gawin at instant pa. But of course, expect for fees kapalit ng convenient withdrawal na yan if ever maimplement ng coins.ph

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Quote from: kissmarx on July 12, 2019, 02:00:26 AM

So dapat gawin ng coins.ph, maglagay na lang sila ng sarili nilang ATM machine na dun tayo pwedeng mag buy and sell and/or cashout to pesos. Kung sinong unang crypto exchange dito sa bansa na unang makakagawa ng ganyan na widely distributed to key cities and towns, ang magiging number 1 na exchange country wide. Then crypto will be useful even to all people. Madaling iliquidate kung ganyan. Mas madaming buyers and merchants na mag aadopt. Lalong magboboom ang mga online shops.

Oo nga noh mas maganda na may sarili silang ATM machine total umaasenso naman ang coins.ph marami na nga ang mga users.

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