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legendary
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February 21, 2016, 02:53:35 AM
#72
Very exciting project...thanks

Just a side note: Personally, i don't have S1, S3 or S5-had all three types, but sold them off as they became obsolete.
Buying used S3 or S5 again just to fit the new board?
Miner might have higher demand than boards, but I might be mistaken.


I'm in the same boat for my electricity price I got rid of all older generation miners.  I felt it was best to sell and buy BTC vs mining when I did calculations I came out with more BTC this way.

So I would have to buy them for this.  And chances are as soon as you say X miner it fit's parts miners take a jump in price on that model.   It might not be possible but I would love to see a complete miner without using other miners gut's cases.  And that might be to hard of a feat when keeping prices low I do realize that.

But best of luck with project.  

To your point, I wonder how feasible it would be to come up with a heatsink/chassis/fan solution that could handle 2 boards and come in around $20ish.  Certainly could be interesting.  I mean, we have a form factor already defined, so lead time might be a non issue.  I will investigate this on my own, but as this is (I hope) a community oriented project, perhaps someone else on the forum has better contacts than I. Anyone with an S1/S3/S5 wins because they can upgrade on the cheap.  Anyone without wins because they could buy this chassis kit on the cheap.  Sidehack/the dev group wins because the market for their product expands.  Home miners win because we have a cost effective alternative to the commercial products, and potentially those products have to lower their respective price points. Not to mention, whoever could facilitate a low cost chassis kit might stand to make a bit of coin for themselves in the process.

 The heatsink/fan from the Gridseed "80" blades would be pretty cheap for folks to aquire, and were SERIOUSLY overkill for that project (if Gridseed had clue one on how to do board-level design).

 I'd love to see a project that came up with a board to fit those - especially when I sold my last S5 earlier today (have 2 to ship out Monday, then I'm out of Bitcoin mining for a bit - already sold off the rest of my S5s and the SP20).


 Looks like the next couple months are going to get even more "interesting" than I thought they would when I made the decision in very early January to sell off my existing Bitcoin mining farm, though looking like I underestimated the timeframe by a month or two....

member
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February 21, 2016, 12:41:38 AM
#71
I am certainly interested and have a few S3's ready for an upgrade. I will be watching this thread closely.

fvineyard
newbie
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February 20, 2016, 07:17:43 PM
#70
Sounds promising! I will certainly follow this thread and I wish you all the best until we hear / learn more!
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 07:14:08 PM
#69
This is brilliant news guys, VERY excited!!!
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
February 20, 2016, 05:08:08 PM
#68
Adding those parts isn't trivial, but also isn't difficult. Having a form factor, power, peripheral controls and a driver framework already in place covers a lot of what you'd need.
legendary
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aka "whocares"
February 20, 2016, 04:57:39 PM
#67
Just a quick note:

As previously mentioned, I have been in discussion with several people about sourcing chips.  I have received confirmation that the chips will be made available for this project.  Equally important, I have discussed our budget and that is not an issue with sourcing the chips.

As soon as I get a timeline and the OK to speak freely about it I will post more info.  

All info I have is shared with SideHack and I will defer all technical questions to him.  I think it is also important to note that part of the original design idea was to allow it to be modified for different chips.  This has important implications because it allows us to proceed now and make modifications if the chip source falls through.  I do have a backup source for another chip if that was to happen but believe the "Guarantee" I received is honorable.


Edited to add the following:
Not sure if the original plan of a modifiable board would hold true if Bitfury chips are used because of the lack of additional parts needed on the board as compared to say the BM1385 or A3218
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 03:23:19 PM
#66
wow, wow
How fast you think all this will happen
the first "fruits" of this kind of project can be expected to be out in the wild after 1-st of May earliest Smiley
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They just need a good supply of chips to go forward then it won't be long that's been the hold up with sidehack stuff all a long, no chips. even the pod which could have out done any S5 by far but there is no motive to go thu with that now, with so much new stuff due out starting in April or end of next month.
full member
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February 20, 2016, 02:31:48 PM
#65
wow, wow
How fast you think all this will happen
the first "fruits" of this kind of project can be expected to be out in the wild after 1-st of May earliest Smiley
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 01:52:47 PM
#64
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?

Bitfury wants $1m upfront for a batch of their chips if that's what you are asking

Well that is already known information. But judging from what punin said I thought that he might lower that huge amount of money for the forum buyers/integrators. That would be really helpful instead of free empty words.

Yeah. And at the same time, it would give Bitfury some good publicity. So everybody wins.

I think it would be a win for sure.  I think this project needs Bitfury to be a homerun.   If it get's Bitfury and beats out others on shipping date and efficiency.... this would be one really nice miner.  Also gives us little guys chance at miners which is ultimately what we all want.

It would be great to see it.  I think Bitfury will win the big data center's over on gear unless Bitmain pulls something amazing out of their hat on a chip.  SP50.... already beat before even out.   It will be interesting to see where this ranks on their to-do list.
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 11:47:39 AM
#63

Yeah. And at the same time, it would give Bitfury some good publicity. So everybody wins.

Yea but if they actually agree and see that remains, to be seen .

I'm willing to bet it's not the cash with them either at this point, it's something else,likely to do with investor or investments rules. or just market rules in General the norm aka Normal way it's done  etc.
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 11:27:55 AM
#62
And again what is WASP ?
link anybody ?



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-wasp-project-collective-information-thread-422243



this project will be nothing like that one was but will be if you com pair them side by side but this is being done with care and one design so it will get done the only problem is chips once they have chips and a good supply the rest will fall in place that's how much trust and faith I have in this project and wish i had the cash to match it , this will work over what the wasp did or tried .

Side, means to get it it out there, hes has proved that .
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
February 20, 2016, 10:08:34 AM
#61
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?

Bitfury wants $1m upfront for a batch of their chips if that's what you are asking

Well that is already known information. But judging from what punin said I thought that he might lower that huge amount of money for the forum buyers/integrators. That would be really helpful instead of free empty words.

Yeah. And at the same time, it would give Bitfury some good publicity. So everybody wins.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
February 20, 2016, 09:54:20 AM
#60
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?

Bitfury wants $1m upfront for a batch of their chips if that's what you are asking

Well that is already known information. But judging from what punin said I thought that he might lower that huge amount of money for the forum buyers/integrators. That would be really helpful instead of free empty words.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
February 20, 2016, 09:39:08 AM
#59
It seems that this project is suffering by comparison to WASP.  It also is apparent that people think we are time crunched.  Sidehack and I have been discussing this project for about 4 months and only now have the stars lined up for us to start moving forward.

This is NOT WASP - We are not asking for 1 penny. There is ZERO financial risk to any community member.  Sidehack has a great track record and will not release anything that is done half ass nor would any other person involved in the project.

As far as I know I am bank rolling this project with the intention of it being open source and making miners available to the community.  There are no deadlines, there is no roadmap and there is no business plan.  The objective is simple:

Produce a miner that is affordable and efficient to allow home miners to continue to mine bitcoins.  

I have spoke with a lot of people about ASICS for the project and have received promising responses. A lot of that info I am unable to discuss presently but Will as soon as I am able to do so.

I appreciate all the responses on this thread and I am excited about the project.
THUMBS UP.  This going to be freaking awesome. No price indications yet so we can start to save up some money?


A guess price more or less 600 bucks for two boards that total 4 th or more in speed  at 500 w or less at the wall that fits any s1/s3/c1/s5 till the S7 with your own controller and most of us have PI type PC lying around waiting  to be used .so  you  provide the rest and most of us have the rest .  again that is a guess more or less they gave Us .The other nice thing there not basing it off what bitcoins cost which is how it should be they base it more off cost to make it which is how it should be.  and not over what it might make more or less  which is how it should be . because there is Market out there for it at a lower price and they can make more selling at a lower price to homes, it's there . numbers really mean nothing . the big investor like seeing those numbers . I guess it make them feel better .

back a few pages

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13932487


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If possible, we'd like to secure Bitfury ASICs for a "final product" that would be compatible with S1/3/5 chassis. Looking at something 4TH/480W wall (stock), undervoltable to about 2.6TH/200W wall. I really want to be able to sell a two-board set for $600 but I don't know if that'll be possible (which is to say, more than cost but less than expected mining revenue).
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 20, 2016, 08:39:19 AM
#58
And again what is WASP ?
link anybody ?

A project like this that died about 15 months ago.  Maybe 20 months ago. 
hero member
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February 20, 2016, 07:44:18 AM
#57
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?

Bitfury wants $1m upfront for a batch of their chips if that's what you are asking
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
February 20, 2016, 07:40:41 AM
#56
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
February 20, 2016, 06:54:11 AM
#55
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.


I/we are hoping to get Bitfury chips for the project.  I have been working on sourcing them and any help you can provide would be invaluable.  I have sent you a PM to further discuss it.  


That is great news if this happens.  I really do hope you guy's get Bitfury chips for project.    That is kinda a game changer getting them.

We would have the best of the best this way with project.
legendary
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aka "whocares"
February 20, 2016, 05:44:51 AM
#54
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.


I/we are hoping to get Bitfury chips for the project.  I have been working on sourcing them and any help you can provide would be invaluable.  I have sent you a PM to further discuss it.  
hero member
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February 20, 2016, 05:31:50 AM
#53
Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.
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