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Notice to the Bitcointalk community.

The WPC has voted to close this thread and have agreed that I will no longer be the spokesperson for anything related to the WPC here in Bitcointalk.org.

The members of the WPC will, when news is available, post relevant notes, and information to the bitcointalk community. If you need to contact the WPC for anything please contact "Beastlymac" via PM.



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Working on the WPC Pool still a few bugs.





WPC Pool Site


We all need comedy relief right?
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Potential Air Cooled version of the Hammer Whiteface / Hornet boards:



Preview Render of a DataTank with Immersion boards:

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Bad timing.

Sucks.

Always late night for this side of the world.
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Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
Bad timing.
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Hammer Whiteface Update:



Next General Meeting:

Saturday 14th June 2014

Teamspeak:

Regular Channel

Location Time:

Seattle, USA 1030 PDT Saturday
London, UK 1830 GMT Saturday
Central Europe 1930 CET Saturday
Jakarta, ID 0030 WIB Sunday
Melbourne, AUS 0430 Sunday

Agenda:

Welcome any Guests

- If you are interested in being a guest and ask questions feel free to PM Beastlymac for details.
  We will answer all you question in meeting.

Wasp & Hive Update

- Hammer Whiteface Update
- Software / Firmware Update
- Releasing EE Sweat Equity Share Buy
- Releasing Prototype Equity Share Buy

Overview of Hong Kong Conference Inside Bitcoin

- Goals
- Allied Control Visit Review Hammer Whiteface bubbling
- Meet with ASIC Fabricators
- Attend Panel on Mining
- Meet with Chinese based Miners and Pool Ops.

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Note this will be the last meeting before the Hammer Whiteface is shipped off to the team at Allied Control in Hong Kong. We will be releasing the next round of share sales that will cover EE's sweat equity and more shares to cover the next phases in prototype development. Members should check your emails and the forum as the latest accounting for the WPC is up.

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Introductions
- New Shares on Sale
Is this to be an announcement of new shares available in the wild, or an availability to existing members? Will you be posting any details outside of the TS chat?

All shares always internal to the WPC members only. We have an interest in looking for angel investors possibly but they would have to discuss what level of commitment they have etc and see if the WPC plans for open source are of interest to them. Or possibly those looking to fab their own board then resell. The design we have won't be ready for that until later in the year. The current design we are working on is the prototype for the allied control datatank form factor below using Hammer Spondoolies chips, the other variants are still months away using the Minion or Rockerbox chips which would be viable as a commercial product in the 2-phase cooling market niche or the Hornet, a larger board which is an air cooled variant.



If you want to discuss it a bit more with me then drop me a PM with your email address.
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Scam-Busting PSA: Beware of Black Arrow Software
Introductions
- New Shares on Sale
Is this to be an announcement of new shares available in the wild, or an availability to existing members? Will you be posting any details outside of the TS chat?
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Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
If we could keep this thread on topic please.

I am busy enough as it is with my offline life.
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Let us get back to the WPC stuff. Let Marto have his 12 threads.
Good point! Was only trying to help arkintunde out a bit...

As for WPC; you've been at it for almost half a year now, got a working miner yet?

Nothing but a testing board that is being used by the lead EE. Looking at June as I posted above for the prototype for cooling in the Data Tank mock up at Allied Control.

Nothing goes out the door unless we are sure someone can build it and get the firmware running on it and hashing away. So we are focused on that right now. The only clock / calendar we are concerned with at this point is one that gets us a system that is working and can demonstrate the fact it can be reworked for the more powerful 28nm chips and cooled effectively so that the chips don't melt themselves off the PCB. Two stages before we get something to the end users. Feel free to PM me if you want a sneak peek at our next meeting that way you can find out where we are at.



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I don't believe in denial.
Let us get back to the WPC stuff. Let Marto have his 12 threads.
Good point! Was only trying to help arkintunde out a bit...

As for WPC; you've been at it for almost half a year now, got a working miner yet?
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Good luck indeed... make sure you do investigate any fabricator before you use them and that goes DOUBLE for that one given the issues some people have had getting refunds and hardware at times.
Wasn't Marto the guy behind (or at least associated - on this forum - with) Technobit...?

Let us get back to the WPC stuff. Let Marto have his 12 threads.
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I don't believe in denial.
Good luck indeed... make sure you do investigate any fabricator before you use them and that goes DOUBLE for that one given the issues some people have had getting refunds and hardware at times.
Wasn't Marto the guy behind (or at least associated - on this forum - with) Technobit...?
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Awesome. Thanks a lot for your response  Smiley Who's Marto Warts? I'm not so sure the chips are going to be the route I choose, unless I find someone willing to purchase 100 minion chips now, considering your advice, but I am still curious.

Edit: A bit of searching and I think I found who you mean Wink.
You can try http://technobit.eu

I know they offer assembling chips on miners... Good luck!

Good luck indeed... make sure you do investigate any fabricator before you use them and that goes DOUBLE for that one given the issues some people have had getting refunds and hardware at times. You have been duly warned. Go ask Joeventura, Ben Turas and Darkfriend77 about what they had to go through with them.


Check this out:

Quote
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Re: [Group buy] Avalon chips Escrow John K / BG EU 2 batch CLOSED + K16 from 40 EUR
September 16, 2013, 13:34:51
Reply with quote  #355
Code:
GB1,darkfriend77,32,2.72,1LJiC5hmBY7EWrWzfq3NUcsJj4J5HMYcT8,Refund

signed the msg above!

Code:
IKdMhPDUShUI3ELLcN8P2WBEk3/xxvqxeAo3CdGjWjVXIxaMtaT3QqjICFOT9yI3pH0lPAP89ycUZbB4at/I+Wg=

this a pretty lame tactic to even get the refund delayed more ... in the hope it gets shipped ...
we allready had more then 50% of chip amounts from users of GB1 voting for a refund ...
sad that your are acting  ... like that ... there where some good examples ...
from zefir, sebastianJu & bizwoo ... how to organize ... a gb refund ... you show us that ...
it can be done the otherway ...


When are you going to pay what you owe Marto74?
Trust: -5: -3 / +4(4)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!



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Seriously eh? They now sell the SP 30's for $1/GH


You can get an SP10 1.4 Th/s for just under $2 gh/s shipped today I think but go check.
I got 2 x SP30 or 12 Th/s for $0.69 gh/s free delivery for August well under $1 for the chips today. Even with chips in hand not sure I could beat $2 a board. Things need to be ramped up on a huge scale to get that sort price per unit.

The trend is down. Way down.
 
The SpondooliesTech are using a different pricing model I think on the chips. Instead of frontloading the costs they are spreading it out over a longer term meaning their chips are already going to be sub $1 at the 28nm possibly for sale but definitely set in the miners.
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Seriously eh? They now sell the SP 30's for $1/GH


Delivery in August. The price of what you have and what you're going to have is separated by light years in this business. If it comes to unit cost AM should be able to do well with the low cost of 40nm process node until power requirements become the predominant factor.
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Seriously eh? They now sell the SP 30's for $1/GH
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Regarding near term and further out roadmap, did the AM BE200 design fall off the map? Looks like AM will have the most affordable pricing per GH on their chips in the near term so I would definitely be interested in hardware that supports their chips.

AM BE200 is in there. I should edit that.

Would be 3rd in the pipeline. Likely an air cooled Hornet. Yes definitely AM is an excellent option price wise. Unfortunately we will have to sell a few shares before we can push too much beyond the spondoolies as we have budgeted only up to the Hammer chips we received last week. But ya if people are still doing the DIY thing the AM I would agree is an excellent choice but you know the drop in prices between bitmain and spondoolies for full miners makes me wonder how low things will go chip wise.
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Regarding near term and further out roadmap, did the AM BE200 design fall off the map? Looks like AM will have the most affordable pricing per GH on their chips in the near term so I would definitely be interested in hardware that supports their chips.

It's already out and for sale through some less than trustworthy channels.  As low as 1$/GH in bulk, $1.4 - $1.5GH in smaller numbers.
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Regarding near term and further out roadmap, did the AM BE200 design fall off the map? Looks like AM will have the most affordable pricing per GH on their chips in the near term so I would definitely be interested in hardware that supports their chips.
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