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Quote from: Pumared on October 23, 2024, 01:22:16 PM

Currently, the Middle East is more competitive than any other region and I say that in the best possible way, because many of the teams that will go to the World Cup will have their players from there. It is no longer the time when all the good players are in Europe.

Well, I have seen that they have had a very good reception in terms of the most famous players and this has made the players from the Middle East learn the technique of the players who come from Europe, making them prepare even better. It would also be significant if more players From South America, such as the Brazilians, went to this league because the feedback would be even more complete. So the project they have in the Middle East is very good, the vision is undoubtedly the best , and I have seen a higher level in the Saudi League than in Ligue 1 , and that even some PL teams , in fact, have played each other in friendlies, and they have nothing to do with friendlies, so I do consider the improvement they have had.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 08:55:05 PM

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Brazil was lucky to have Venezuela as their next opponent. It's practically a gift with a guaranteed victory, but even so, considering the team's current form, I'm still worried that they can't afford to lose now.

I believe that Colombia will end up winning, as it's another opponent that could become a favorite for the World Cup.

Brazil needing a point to calm down and out of nowhere Venezuela becomes the German team, it would be a great story and I wouldn't be surprised. They didn't convince, they just got lucky against weak teams. They can't hold their own. But, in this situation, can Neymar be selected? I don't know the rules, but I don't think so.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 22, 2024, 09:22:13 PM

But they whether Ronaldo or Messi, after the 2026 World Cup will only be legends, I just want to see them meet later at the World Cup 2026 and it will definitely be very interesting.

I think the same too, in fact I only hope that Messi manages to stay in Argentina and play, and I am glad that the Argentina vs Portugal clash takes place, it would be the best, because they will be the two titans of world football, even so Haaland or Mbappé are having the best moment, even Vinicius, I think they cannot come close to these guys, with respect to the preparation of Messi and CR7, CR7 has a lot of advantage in performance, he does a lot more and that is what makes Portugal continue to choose him to play, and the better he does in the Saudi League ,the more minutes he will earn in his national team.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 08:55:05 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on October 25, 2024, 11:58:22 PM

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Brazil was lucky to have Venezuela as their next opponent. It's practically a gift with a guaranteed victory, but even so, considering the team's current form, I'm still worried that they can't afford to lose now.

I believe that Colombia will end up winning, as it's another opponent that could become a favorite for the World Cup.

Brazil is at the 4th spot in this FIFA World Cup qualification, and they have tough competition with Argentina, Colombia and Uruguay. However this time the top 6 team from CONMEBOL standings will be able to qualify for the World Cup, there is no chance for Brazil to not finish in the top 6. This time the World Cup spots are increased

Each time has to play 18 matches and almost all the team have played their 8 or 9 matches. However, Brazil have lost four of their nine matches is a big concern for them as it is not only about qualifying for the world cup but they should have good form to compete in that World Cup too.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 25, 2024, 11:58:22 PM

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Brazil was lucky to have Venezuela as their next opponent. It's practically a gift with a guaranteed victory, but even so, considering the team's current form, I'm still worried that they can't afford to lose now.

I believe that Colombia will end up winning, as it's another opponent that could become a favorite for the World Cup.

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Uruguay and Brazil are in 3rd and 4th place with the same points and for the next match Brazil will face Venezuela and Uruguay will face Colombia, clearly this is an advantage for Brazil to be able to shift Uruguay by successfully getting full points when defeating Venezuela.
Colombia is tough opponent for Uruguay and it is likely that this match will only end in draw and they each only share 1 point, but if Uruguay does not play well then there is chance for Colombia to win like in their match at the last Copa America.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 25, 2024, 05:35:48 PM

Imagine the waste of talent, until certain years, a professional player retired between 30 and 35 years old, but the generation of Messi and C. Ronaldo proved that this age range doesn't mean that they are old and insignificant, I have the impression that these 2 get better as they get older, Messi won the World Cup at 35 years old, when no one imagined that Argentina would be champion again in World Cups.

Just as people's longevity improves as they age, it's no different in football.

Nowadays, players have a lot of technology at their disposal... many training centers have a medical team and equipments that is much better than some hospitals. The same applies to post-injury treatments... in the past, if a player had a knee problem, he could never play again, but nowadays, they undergo surgery and return to the field after a few months as if they were practically new.

Obviously, health is a serious matter, so the older a player is, the greater the chances of him suffering serious damage, which is why the limits of his body must be respected.

As for Messi, he should certainly participate in the next World Cup. However, I wouldn't dare say the same about CR7.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 19, 2024, 10:37:51 AM

Without a doubt Messi is one of the best players in the world and has the best of all achievements, there is no doubt about that, can Messi go to the 2026 World Cup ? Of course he can, he can play even one half and I am sure he will perform, many of us have been told that soccer players Only have their active life as soccer players until they are 30 years old, hence they are useless because they are old, that is a cliché to sell, the living example is a CR7 who can still run much more than a young player of 19-20 years old , it's all mental.

Imagine the waste of talent, until certain years, a professional player retired between 30 and 35 years old, but the generation of Messi and C. Ronaldo proved that this age range doesn't mean that they are old and insignificant, I have the impression that these 2 get better as they get older, Messi won the World Cup at 35 years old, when no one imagined that Argentina would be champion again in World Cups.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 23, 2024, 09:42:46 AM

Quote from: Pumared on October 21, 2024, 07:10:04 AM

Yes, I agree that it is a cliché and I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is in shape and continues to perform very well. However, I do not see that side of Messi. I see the Arab league as more competitive and challenging than the American one.

Is Messi training and is he in shape like CR7? Yes, but while one is training with great players, the other is just playing modern street football in the USA.

You're right about that, when I saw that Messi was going to the USA to the MLS I didn't like it, because he's a very good player, and it wasn't worth it, I know that in the MLS they play as if they were already retiring, and I consider that he has a lot more to give, however it's his decision and he is respected, it's obvious that Messi is not the same as before, but in Argentina they have him because he represents a lot, he's symbolic, he gives that strength, on the other hand CR7 has everything, unfortunately I have seen that in his national team they don't have that level of respect for him despite the fact that thanks to him they won the Euro at that time, I only hope that Portugal qualifies for the 2026 World Cup and that Messi can be active.

Currently, the Middle East is more competitive than any other region and I say that in the best possible way, because many of the teams that will go to the World Cup will have their players from there. It is no longer the time when all the good players are in Europe.

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Quote from: Pumared on October 21, 2024, 07:10:04 AM

Yes, I agree that it is a cliché and I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is in shape and continues to perform very well. However, I do not see that side of Messi. I see the Arab league as more competitive and challenging than the American one.

Is Messi training and is he in shape like CR7? Yes, but while one is training with great players, the other is just playing modern street football in the USA.

You're right about that, when I saw that Messi was going to the USA to the MLS I didn't like it, because he's a very good player, and it wasn't worth it, I know that in the MLS they play as if they were already retiring, and I consider that he has a lot more to give, however it's his decision and he is respected, it's obvious that Messi is not the same as before, but in Argentina they have him because he represents a lot, he's symbolic, he gives that strength, on the other hand CR7 has everything, unfortunately I have seen that in his national team they don't have that level of respect for him despite the fact that thanks to him they won the Euro at that time, I only hope that Portugal qualifies for the 2026 World Cup and that Messi can be active.

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Quote from: Pumared on October 21, 2024, 07:10:04 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 19, 2024, 10:37:51 AM

Quote from: Pumared on October 17, 2024, 11:11:25 AM

I don't think he'll be able to perform as well at the moment. He's in the team more as a stimulus for the others, although he still has a lot more energy than any other player, but he's only active to keep himself in shape for these bigger championships.

Without a doubt Messi is one of the best players in the world and has the best of all achievements, there is no doubt about that, can Messi go to the 2026 World Cup ? Of course he can, he can play even one half and I am sure he will perform, many of us have been told that soccer players Only have their active life as soccer players until they are 30 years old, hence they are useless because they are old, that is a cliché to sell, the living example is a CR7 who can still run much more than a young player of 19-20 years old , it's all mental.

Yes, I agree that it is a cliché and I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is in shape and continues to perform very well. However, I do not see that side of Messi. I see the Arab league as more competitive and challenging than the American one.

Is Messi training and is he in shape like CR7? Yes, but while one is training with great players, the other is just playing modern street football in the USA.

But he is still reliable striker for Argentina, haha don't know why Messi current style of play, which is often parked in front and waiting for the ball to pick him up, can still be considered the best.
As player with an age that is considered to be getting older, it is really undeniable that Messi has experienced significant decline and he doesn't seem to be able to keep up with the game of the young players.
But they whether Ronaldo or Messi, after the 2026 World Cup will only be legends, I just want to see them meet later at the World Cup 2026 and it will definitely be very interesting.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 19, 2024, 10:37:51 AM

Quote from: Pumared on October 17, 2024, 11:11:25 AM

I don't think he'll be able to perform as well at the moment. He's in the team more as a stimulus for the others, although he still has a lot more energy than any other player, but he's only active to keep himself in shape for these bigger championships.

Without a doubt Messi is one of the best players in the world and has the best of all achievements, there is no doubt about that, can Messi go to the 2026 World Cup ? Of course he can, he can play even one half and I am sure he will perform, many of us have been told that soccer players Only have their active life as soccer players until they are 30 years old, hence they are useless because they are old, that is a cliché to sell, the living example is a CR7 who can still run much more than a young player of 19-20 years old , it's all mental.

Yes, I agree that it is a cliché and I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is in shape and continues to perform very well. However, I do not see that side of Messi. I see the Arab league as more competitive and challenging than the American one.

Is Messi training and is he in shape like CR7? Yes, but while one is training with great players, the other is just playing modern street football in the USA.

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Quote from: Pumared on October 17, 2024, 11:11:25 AM

I don't think he'll be able to perform as well at the moment. He's in the team more as a stimulus for the others, although he still has a lot more energy than any other player, but he's only active to keep himself in shape for these bigger championships.

Without a doubt Messi is one of the best players in the world and has the best of all achievements, there is no doubt about that, can Messi go to the 2026 World Cup ? Of course he can, he can play even one half and I am sure he will perform, many of us have been told that soccer players Only have their active life as soccer players until they are 30 years old, hence they are useless because they are old, that is a cliché to sell, the living example is a CR7 who can still run much more than a young player of 19-20 years old , it's all mental.

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Quote from: rdluffy on October 18, 2024, 08:34:17 AM

Suarez is also an example, along with Cavani he represented Uruguay very well
He managed to win a Copa America title in 2011 and made good appearances at the World Cup for Uruguay
The only bad thing about Suarez is that I don't like some South Americans' style of play of extreme provocation, the famous “catimba” and sometimes disloyalty

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Yeah, I liked Suarez a lot, sometimes his combative style and mannerisms even appealed to me (exemplified by his performances for Uruguay and Atletico). But he escapes my "first comes to mind" because of that shithousery I also don't enjoy in real life -- it's part of football, but I want it at a minimum.

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 17, 2024, 10:28:18 AM

Agree.

Suarez most recently probably came as close as it gets to retiring just at the right time, though maybe a bit off in the way he handled the media post farewell.

For the individual it is always about retiring at the top. Now would be a safe time for Messi but I won't begrudge him a bit more time the way he delivers and brings the team together.

But sometimes, you have to think of the ones before your eyes. They need time and space, and your absence to grow. With Messi more so.

Suarez is also an example, along with Cavani he represented Uruguay very well
He managed to win a Copa America title in 2011 and made good appearances at the World Cup for Uruguay
The only bad thing about Suarez is that I don't like some South Americans' style of play of extreme provocation, the famous “catimba” and sometimes disloyalty

Quote from: Pumared on October 17, 2024, 11:11:25 AM

I don't think he'll be able to perform as well at the moment. He's in the team more as a stimulus for the others, although he still has a lot more energy than any other player, but he's only active to keep himself in shape for these bigger championships.

I'm always changing my opinion about Messi hehehe
After the World Cup I was so sure about retirement, but he is still playing at MLS in Miami, and still making some good matches for Argentina, so I have doubts about him

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Quote from: rdluffy on October 17, 2024, 07:44:54 AM

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I would be happy to see Messi playing in the next World Cup before he retires, because despite his age, he is still playing at a very high level and is still extremely competitive.

But I think Argentina will be very upset if Messi retires early, but they have exceptional players, so even if that happens, I think they will remain competitive and intimidating. Don't forget that Argentina are three-time World Cup champions.

I have mixed thoughts about Messi
He's already won the World Cup with Argentina, and if he retires this year or next, he'll end up in his “prime”, with his duty done and will be remembered by everyone

If he continues, I don't know if they'll be able to play at the same level as they did in the 2022 World Cup and there's a chance that Messi, at 39, won't be able to deliver much because of his physique.

However, Messi can still play good games, like the last one against Bolivia, so for me it's a 50% chance of him playing in the next World Cup or not hehehe.
2026 seems so far away, but we're already at the end of 2024 and the World Cup is 19 months away

I don't think he'll be able to perform as well at the moment. He's in the team more as a stimulus for the others, although he still has a lot more energy than any other player, but he's only active to keep himself in shape for these bigger championships.

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Quote from: rdluffy on October 17, 2024, 07:44:54 AM

I have mixed thoughts about Messi
He's already won the World Cup with Argentina, and if he retires this year or next, he'll end up in his “prime”, with his duty done and will be remembered by everyone

If he continues, I don't know if they'll be able to play at the same level as they did in the 2022 World Cup and there's a chance that Messi, at 39, won't be able to deliver much because of his physique.

However, Messi can still play good games, like the last one against Bolivia, so for me it's a 50% chance of him playing in the next World Cup or not hehehe.
2026 seems so far away, but we're already at the end of 2024 and the World Cup is 19 months away

Agree.

Suarez most recently probably came as close as it gets to retiring just at the right time, though maybe a bit off in the way he handled the media post farewell.

For the individual it is always about retiring at the top. Now would be a safe time for Messi but I won't begrudge him a bit more time the way he delivers and brings the team together.

But sometimes, you have to think of the ones before your eyes. They need time and space, and your absence to grow. With Messi more so.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 16, 2024, 11:43:17 AM

I would be happy to see Messi playing in the next World Cup before he retires, because despite his age, he is still playing at a very high level and is still extremely competitive.

But I think Argentina will be very upset if Messi retires early, but they have exceptional players, so even if that happens, I think they will remain competitive and intimidating. Don't forget that Argentina are three-time World Cup champions.

I have mixed thoughts about Messi
He's already won the World Cup with Argentina, and if he retires this year or next, he'll end up in his “prime”, with his duty done and will be remembered by everyone

If he continues, I don't know if they'll be able to play at the same level as they did in the 2022 World Cup and there's a chance that Messi, at 39, won't be able to deliver much because of his physique.

However, Messi can still play good games, like the last one against Bolivia, so for me it's a 50% chance of him playing in the next World Cup or not hehehe.
2026 seems so far away, but we're already at the end of 2024 and the World Cup is 19 months away

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A lot of matches were played yesterday where Colombia, Brazil and most popular team Argentina were hot choice as well as all of them Won their matches again their opponents. Brazil defeated peru with 4-0 score. Brazil dominated the match, Scored 1 goal in first half and 3 goals in 2nd half where two amazing penalty goals scored by Raphinha and won the match. On the other hand, Colombia defeated Chile with 4-0 score same as Brazil did. A lots of similarity was noticed. Like Colombia also score 1 goal in 1st half and 3 goal in 2nd half and they also dominated the match as like Brazil did, now they gained top two position in qualifying table with 19 points. Apart from that, the most exciting and top team was Argentina, match against Bolivia where Argentina scored 6-0 goal against their opponent team. Argentina did 3 goals before half time and more 3 goals after half time. Where GOAT Messi hat trick with 3 goals at 19', 84', 86' minutes and again proved that why people call him so & crazily love him. Argentina's passing accuracy, domination, strategies all were impressive, they did an incredible performance even and become the topper of the qualifying table with 22 points.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 15, 2024, 04:14:33 AM

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There is a very discouraging scenario for Bolivia. But these odds of @1.06 in favor of Argentina may be very low, maybe Bolivia can get a draw. I would only put Argentina in my multi bet if I had to choose the "Double Chance Argentina or Draw" market if it had odds of at least @1.20, in the case of Brazil, they also have a very good history when playing against Chile, but this current Brazil does not inspire much confidence in me, even though Chile is doing very badly at the moment, they could still get a draw, so these odds of @1.23 in case Brazil wins. Regarding Uruguay, I would not put them in my bet either. Honestly, I see Uruguay with a greater chance of drawing.

Colombia, Argentina and Brazil all won their games but Uruguay were poor and could not create lead so could only draw.
I don't know why Uruguay couldn't get the win as they were favourites and had plenty of chances to dominate the game but Ecuador goalkeeper Hernan Galindez was absolutely stunning making 4 saves to keep his team clean.
You are right not to have Uruguay as favourites in the bet and taking the draw was good win, unfortunately I lost the bet slip but I was happy with the other teams, Colombia, Argentina and Brazil all won big.

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