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legendary
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March 28, 2020, 10:13:34 PM
Probably dentists have stock in breakfast cereal companies. After all, most of these companies fortify their cereals with iron, these days. Try chewing on an iron bar and seeing what it does to your teeth. Fortified with iron... more money for the dentist.

OMG now you really are showing your stupidity comparing the metal iron with the powdered form..
you could have hid your stupidity and atleast resembled having a point by mentioning the sugar added to cereal.
but no you had to go down the iron route as the conspiracy of dentists with shares in cereal companies

......
anyway moving on from your silly opinions.

to answer something more ontopic. a few people kept bringing up the details of how china hushed up a doctor in december about corona.
this was not a conspiracy. this was at the point in december. there were not millions of cases. but just a few cases and all of them were showing a commonality of being from the wuhan wetmarket.
this is not a sign of some world wide pandemic. this is also a sign of a confined cross contamination in a small area. at that point they did not know how much it would spread and casing panic at the first signs is more disasterous than not saying anything.

imagine the panic if a group of 5 people had a nut allergy and went into respiratory distress.. should the world know/go into lockdown everytime?

however when it did spread beyond. china done some number analysis and realised that it can go widespread and fast. they informed everyone and january 9th every country knew.. this was while less than 1k cases were known of
and they organised building brand new hospitals from scratch by february.

its easy to blame china however other countries that heard about it on 9th january. but didnt on 10th january decide they should go full prepare mode themselves.
heck. trump only started wanting to make more temporary hospitals in march. 2 month delay
heck UK only started to make new hospitals in march.
they are only just in the last couple weeks now requesting new/different manufacturers to start making them equipment. a whole 2 months after
(UK asked vacuum cleaner company Dyson in march. US asked car maker GM in march)

heck in december china only thought it was some food poisoning/ross contamination from the wetmarket that caused respiratory issues. and 2 months later they had new hospitals ready and staffed.
there are still countries like india who 3 months later only started self isolation/social distancing stuff.. yep 3 months later
sr. member
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March 28, 2020, 09:26:29 PM
People should also be helping themselves to prevent the pandemic from further occuring and it also helps the government to contain it. Contrary to popular belief, the virus is the same as a simple flu but it is different, the similarities are that they belong to the same family of viruses.
legendary
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March 28, 2020, 07:29:22 PM
oh look the herbal doctors still pushing there supplement affiliation..
i would ask for their own personal studies they done. or more evidence than just youtube testimonials.
but ofcourse all ill get is insults that its strangely me thats promoting corporate produced products.

by the way.. to produce L lysine. it require genetically modified bacteria to ferment, so yea.. travel down that conspiracy of big-corp genetically modifying bacteria to make your supplements,,,  mmhmm not so herbal after all is it

Average people at home do what makes them feel good. After all, when you get sick, you only know it if it hurts. If it doesn't hurt, and if you are as strong as you were yesterday, how do you know if you are sick or not, right?

So, when people don't feel good, they do what makes them feel better. Often this is to eat some herbs. Maybe it's just eating veggies, if one hasn't been eating enough lately.



Probably dentists have stock in breakfast cereal companies. After all, most of these companies fortify their cereals with iron, these days. Try chewing on an iron bar and seeing what it does to your teeth. Fortified with iron... more money for the dentist. Grin

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legendary
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March 28, 2020, 07:04:25 PM
I can't stand to keep up with reading on this virus shit every day anymore..
I have been drifting off to fantasy land (watched all the lord of the rings) and just self quarantining as much as I can in peace and comfort..

Watch Tiger King on Netflix.  Incredible.
legendary
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March 28, 2020, 07:01:08 PM
I can't stand to keep up with reading on this virus shit every day anymore..
I have been drifting off to fantasy land (watched all the lord of the rings) and just self quarantining as much as I can in peace and comfort..
legendary
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March 28, 2020, 03:59:03 PM
oh look the herbal doctors still pushing there supplement affiliation..
i would ask for their own personal studies they done. or more evidence than just youtube testimonials.
but ofcourse all ill get is insults that its strangely me thats promoting corporate produced products.

by the way.. to produce L lysine. it require genetically modified bacteria to ferment, so yea.. travel down that conspiracy of big-corp genetically modifying bacteria to make your supplements,,,  mmhmm not so herbal after all is it
legendary
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March 28, 2020, 03:15:58 PM
- As of March 19, there are 9,415 cases of COVID-19 in the U.S.  

And less than 10 days later there are 115k cases in the US. Worse yet, most of it is concentrated in a few areas that are already out of hospital beds. COVID-19 care needs more equipment (ICUs, ventilators).

You need a new conspiracy theory bud.

Just like I said, there are probably millions of cases of it.  Been around since it somehow got out of Ft. Detrich last summer.  As soon working test kits come on-line the numbers will explode and other metrics will need to be adjusted.

As for the various footage when I make a quick scan of Jewtube all I see are pictures of empty beds getting ready for the waves of patients which are supposed to be on their way any minute now.  To paraphrase the old Vietnam era saying:

  "What if they had a war pandemic and nobody showed up?"

Anyway, looks like chloroquine is practically a miracle cure for this one which frees up beds in a few days.  Unfortunately this is going to make Trump look like a genius.  Probably one of the goals of the psy-op from day one.

Also it looks like the bioweapons engineers need to get back to the lab and make the next strain resistant to chloroquine.  Next one needs to be treated by a really expensive drug which only the ultra-wealthy can afford.  Jacking the price up from $0.05 per dose oto $12.00 isn't nearly the profit margin that Big Pharma needs to be happy, and being around for 50 years means that it's hard to create artificial scarcity.

Looks like you Lucifarian technocrats will have to wait for the promised '2nd wave' to roll out your forced vaccinations and biometric tagging.  Now the race is to see if people can catch on to the trickery before that operation can get underway.  Trump and Barr are happy because they got their totalitarian police state powers and I doubt that they'll be giving them up very easily.  I imagine they'll put the powers to good used for the election too.  'Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind' I guess.

legendary
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March 28, 2020, 02:31:48 PM
- As of March 19, there are 9,415 cases of COVID-19 in the U.S.  

And less than 10 days later there are 115k cases in the US. Worse yet, most of it is concentrated in a few areas that are already out of hospital beds. COVID-19 care needs more equipment (ICUs, ventilators).

You need a new conspiracy theory bud.
legendary
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March 28, 2020, 01:58:10 PM

Holy shit!  Revision for UK:  500,000 dead  --> 20,000 where half would die anyway since they are so sick.

What a difference a day makes!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yvhmf38vOg

These 'public health professionals' are as bad at modeling as the global climate change scammers.

legendary
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March 28, 2020, 01:51:23 PM
livescience covid:

 - A recent study of COVID-19 cases in the United States found that, among 4,226 reported cases , at least 508 people, or 12% were hospitalized.

 - As of March 19, there are 9,415 cases of COVID-19 in the U.S.  

CDC Flu:

 - 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season

How is it that 1000 extra beds over the normal 500,000 needed for the flu is causing such a medical system breakdown as is being widely promoted in mainstream-land with people laying around on the floors and what-not?  Even if we break the 500,000 into a 6 month flu season divided by months, we are still comparing 1000 to 80,000.

Are we getting scammed here?  Maybe just a little?



It's not the same thing at all.

The 500,000 needed for the flu are spread out all over the country (which has over a million beds i think?) over something like 6 months.

When you're hospitalized for the flu, you spend 3-4 days in the hospital. (we do know how to treat it)

Coronavirus hospital stays are averaging almost 2 weeks. (we don't know how to treat it)

With the coronavirus, there are very focused hotspots, so we don't have access to the Million beds around the country.

Greater NYC has something like 40,000 hospital beds that are usually ~70% occupied.  That leaves 12,000 beds.

They've basically gone from 10k to 50k cases in the past week.  


They don't expect it to peak for 2-3 weeks from now. (20 million people live in the area).

If you still don't get it don't worry, it will be easier to understand a week from now.


legendary
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March 28, 2020, 01:03:17 PM
livescience covid:

 - A recent study of COVID-19 cases in the United States found that, among 4,226 reported cases , at least 508 people, or 12% were hospitalized.

 - As of March 19, there are 9,415 cases of COVID-19 in the U.S.  

CDC Flu:

 - 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season

How is it that 1000 extra beds over the normal 500,000 needed for the flu is causing such a medical system breakdown as is being widely promoted in mainstream-land with people laying around on the floors and what-not?  Even if we break the 500,000 into a 6 month flu season divided by months, we are still comparing 1000 to 80,000.

Are we getting scammed here?  Maybe just a little?

legendary
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March 28, 2020, 12:01:35 PM
^^^ Four to six grams of vitamin C, daily.     Cool

Diarrhea guaranteed!
For the extra cleansing effectzx  Cheesy

Vitamin C is very safe but once you go past 2,000mg it can cause GI upset including diarrhea.

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-c/faq-20058030

I take 10g of VC every day, spread throughout the day. No issues.

Take 2 or 3 grams, each, of L-lysine and L-proline along with your V-C, and it will protect you against heart disease as well as CV. Search on "Linus Pauling."

Cool

Lysine is also good for the skin, rashes etc. BUT if you rely more on Arginine (which cacao and dark chocolate is rich of) be careful that taking Lysine depletes Arginine.
It's always good to take Amino-complex supplements in addition to certain aminos, to maintain nutrial balance.

L-arginine helps your body make HGH (Human Growth Hormone). In middle-age to old-age people, HGH produces increased youthfulness. The youthfulness helps the whole body absorb more L-lysine and other nutrients, and use them correctly.

If you get HGH shots (expensive), get them moderately. L-arginine, if taken in large doses, will give you the HGH you need to remain somewhat youthful.

Note that every body is different. Seek advice from a health practitioner... and then test on yourself.

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legendary
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March 28, 2020, 04:50:15 AM
This looks terrible: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Means patients that have recovered haven't really recovered in China? How did their test results come positive again?

Did you read the article? It explains a few possibilities. The question is how widespread that is. A few cases are unavoidable but with communists in charge you never know what's really going on.

Yes! Tests taken wrongly is a major problem which I am worried about.


Going to assume it's partly because China's shitty communist government is lying about the data being presented. Either new cases are being diagnosed or there were errors in the test. I'm going to assume the former. Based on the rate of transmission using countries like Italy and the U.S. as an example, there's no way in hell China has 80k cases.

India is going to be presented with this same problem too. 1.25 billion people with 800 confirmed cases. Not even remotely true.

Read about it today. China's testing kits are faulty and Spain that bought these kits from China returned few of these faulty kits. USA's testing kits are more precise.
sr. member
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March 27, 2020, 11:38:30 PM
This looks terrible: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Means patients that have recovered haven't really recovered in China? How did their test results come positive again?

It is proven that at least 3 strains exist in china and 5 in the world. Means it is possible to get it 5 times and the "L" strain is the most deathly.
The most widespread is the "S" strain.

Someone who did have it and recoverd thanks to Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.
https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/videos/2834322946603527/

Small sample size results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300996

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    In France, the Minister of Health has authorised, supervised by decree, the prescription of chloroquine for patients with coronavirus. This is now possible at the hospital, if the doctor deems it useful.

    Plaquenil, derived from chloroquine, can now be delivered to patients with Covid-19. The Minister of Health, Olivier Véran ruled, Thursday, March 26, by a decree published in the Official Journal.

    Prescription of this medication is now possible in the hospital, if the doctor deems it useful, without waiting for the results of the ongoing clinical trials.

    "Hydroxychloroquine and the combination of lopinavir / ritonavir may be prescribed, dispensed and administered under the responsibility of a doctor to patients affected by Covid-19, in the healthcare establishments which take charge of them, as well as for the continuation of their treatment if their condition allows it and with the authorization of the initial prescriber, at home".
legendary
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March 27, 2020, 11:27:20 PM
just an update regarding COVID-19 human to animal transmission. I just saw this news and according to this(link below), a cat in Belgium have tested positive for COVID-19 he got from its owner. the cat is also showing symptoms similar to humans including having difficulty breathing. there was also a case in Hongkong where two dogs got infected(link below). although transmission from animal to human is very low It is suggested from the article that you refrain yourself from rubbing your nose to your pets to protect your pets from the virus.

link: https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/first-known-cat-infected-with-coronavirus-reported-in-belgium/

second link: https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/second-dog-in-hong-kong-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/
legendary
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March 27, 2020, 11:05:30 PM
This looks terrible: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Means patients that have recovered haven't really recovered in China? How did their test results come positive again?

Going to assume it's partly because China's shitty communist government is lying about the data being presented.

Going to assume entertain the hypothesis that this is a 'gain of function' which will ultimately be used to justify forced vaccinations for all.

Either new cases are being diagnosed or there were errors in the test. I'm going to assume the former. Based on the rate of transmission using countries like Italy and the U.S. as an example, there's no way in hell China has 80k cases.

India is going to be presented with this same problem too. 1.25 billion people with 800 confirmed cases. Not even remotely true.

Could be multiple strains with different feature sets floating around.  In fact I think that is known to be the case at this point.  How that came to be is what is sensitive and contentious.

legendary
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March 27, 2020, 08:14:55 PM
This looks terrible: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Means patients that have recovered haven't really recovered in China? How did their test results come positive again?

Going to assume it's partly because China's shitty communist government is lying about the data being presented. Either new cases are being diagnosed or there were errors in the test. I'm going to assume the former. Based on the rate of transmission using countries like Italy and the U.S. as an example, there's no way in hell China has 80k cases.

India is going to be presented with this same problem too. 1.25 billion people with 800 confirmed cases. Not even remotely true.
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March 27, 2020, 07:35:55 PM
Well, what I'm up to. So a month now and about 35 days in self-isolation. It would be nice to see if I actually already had this or not...but that seems unlikely for a couple of months. Sad

I had a mild sore throat and diarrhea for a week before things took off in March..also no fever...but that is the mild end of this corona-virus...then the scale goes all the way to 'get to ICU' now. Essentially, anything from my mild symptoms to a full crisis seems to be a symptom. Been in self-isolation since 2/24/20. Sucks. It will really suck if I had it and did not have to do the above. I figure everyone will get this (its the frigging flu) but figure friends/neighbors someone will 'tag' me to take them to the doctor or something...so no reason for everyone to get sick at the same time. Retired. So no place to be. So I'm currently in the 'break glass in case of emergency role" now. If this comes to pass, then 2 weeks after I'll get sick and my friends can do the reverse. Also, if the mild symptoms turn out to be the coronavirus, I did the right thing anyway. Boy, I did not feel too bad, if it was, I may have taken out a lot of people!

So sitting on my ass here at home on Bitcointalk doing my part on this great (if somewhat managed badly) effort in the Pandemic. Damn, I'm bored. Sad



legendary
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March 27, 2020, 04:45:45 PM
This looks terrible: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Means patients that have recovered haven't really recovered in China? How did their test results come positive again?

The test samples were probably not taken correctly.
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March 27, 2020, 04:24:32 PM
This looks terrible: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Means patients that have recovered haven't really recovered in China? How did their test results come positive again?

Did you read the article? It explains a few possibilities. The question is how widespread that is. A few cases are unavoidable but with communists in charge you never know what's really going on.
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