Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 101. (Read 29937 times)

Do you have any evidence that Italy is doing anything? What if it is one joker in the Italian Government who has the "mouth" control, and all the rest of the government is against what he is saying. He mouths it to the media and that is what we hear.

Until there is an honest, unbiased court in session, the best info for Italy and any country is probably little people on the ground, with their phone cameras.

You think Italy is faking it and shut down their entire country so they could get hand outs from banks?

What resource do you recommend for the most accurate data?

tvbcof, is this you buddy?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/engineer-allegedly-crash-train-usns-mercy-los-angeles/story?id=69926172


And it's not full moon yet...

Cute little charts that reflect bogus data from basket-case countries like Italy who need to beg the international banks for handouts in order to survive and will thus do anything required of them.

What's really funny is that even if you take those heavily massaged and fake numbers and overlay what one would expect from all other diseases you the charts would not show anything more than a minor blip anyway.

^^^ Cute little charts. Easy to make. When is somebody going to take CV fanatics to court for real proof?

That's because nobody knows which is what makes it such a threat.
We know what



Except we know what to expect with seasonal unremarkable corona viruses - so we plan for them every year.
We know how to best prevent it, treat it, when it will peak, when the season will be over, how many hospital beds we'll need, all with pretty high confidence.


Covid-19 cases are spreading in both hemispheres. At the same time.
People are spending weeks on ventilators instead of days like the flu.
We don't have a vaccine, we are still guessing on the best way to treat it, we don't know who's immune or why, we don't know if it will peak in 2 weeks or 2 months. 
We do know that if it keeps spreading exponentially, it won't be long before we run out of hospital beds, staff and equipment.
In other words - no, it's not a seasonal unremarkable virus.  It's a pandemic. 

Thanks, franky1. Now that normal hospital stuff has been stopped to make room for Coronavirus patients, the hospitals are really empty. Even if there ARE a few CV patients, they don't want to go to the hospital to be messed with. I think people know that hospitals usually make things worse.

I don't mind that hospitals are losing income, however, because a lot of useless medical causes insurance to skyrocket. And, that is what most medical is... hyped ways to cure stuff when nutrition would have been the easier, cheaper way. Medical and the so-called CV pandemic go to show you how easy it is to get people to believe a bunch of hype.

The problem is that something like 30% of the population is working for the medical industry one way or another. If this fake CV pandemic continues for a while, these people will start losing their jobs and businesses. It will affect the whole money system of the country.

This might be good. It might bring the prices of everything down over the long term. And maybe that's exactly what the big money people wanted all along. But it will probably hurt a bunch of little people at the same time.

God made all DNA of all life similar at its base. This so that people could "have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth" - Genesis 1:28.

At least your prose is not outright babble which is common here, but it really doesn't elucidate very much and is not especially pertainent to some of the interesting elements of this saga.

To the best of my knowledge nobody has really explained what, exactly, it is about this coronavirus which give it some of it's somewhat unique (claimed) properties.

According to standard theory, the rna codes for the capsid coating, and it is a fair guess that the degradation properties of said is contributing to some of it's 'gain of function' features.  Incubation period, ability to linger on surfaces, and the like.

Other hypotheses are certainly possible.  For instance, there may be environmental exposures that individuals have undergone which modulate their sensitivity or expression to either this coronavirus, or all coronaviruses and pathogens more generally.

Another hypothesis which is, if anything, gaining strength in my mind is that SARS-cov-2 is nothing more than any other seasonal and unremarkable coronavirus which makes the rounds as do all the rest, but is being blamed for a hype which itself exists almost exclusively for political reasons.  That some countries (generally bankrupt ones who rely on welfare from more wealthy countries) label anyone who died WITH SARS-cov-2 instead of people who died FROM the virus as being covid-19 moralities bolsters that hypothesis.

All of these hypotheses should be explored in an open manner free from political or economic influences.  If that could happen I'd be happy.

SARS-CoV-2 or not, any average year there is lots of people touching the face all the time or worse have a Onychophagia habit, 45 percent of teenagers engage in it.
If virus picked up that easy they be more sick than in school.
https://youtu.be/uHoarZj42t4?t=63
Yes a needle or mosquito is one way of getting it into a bloodstream

WHO published a report that scientists were working on that stated there weren't many mutations in coronavirus when compared to the strain propagating in the U.S. and the one that originated in Wuhan. I'm willing to bet we're dealing with the relatively same virus but even if the mutation rate was a bit higher, most tests kits amplify a segment of RNA from the virus's nucleocapsid (protein coat) and this is what's detected to determine whether a test is positive. Even if other parts of the COVID-19 genome are mutated to the point we have multiple strains, it's still probable that the gene for the nucleocapsid remains unmutated and will still produce accurate results when it's tested for.

Oh yeah.  I didn't watch enough Bill Nye the Science Guy.  Why don't you tell us all about it Mr. Science?

If you knew a little more about genetics you'd realize how little you actually know.

 - 96.2% does not seem all that similar to me.  Plenty of room for 'insertions'.  IIRC, humans dna is about 99% similar to chimpanzee dna.

 - The 'Chinese discovery' of a multitude of naturally circulating viruses in bat populations means nothing.  Various entities are seeking to isolate viruses in lots of animal populations.  This Ebright guy to be implying that the Chinese military related entities found it to make weapons.  I would not doubt that, but it would not keep any other entity from finding the same pathogen.

 - This Ebright guy has listed two possibilities for how it got to humans.  There are more possibilities and many many more permutations on the general themes.

badecker you have already been told and i dumbed it down for you.

normal hospital useage for minor ailments / cosmetic /elective stuff has been cancelled. standard GP checkups, cancelled.
this is caled a thing called self isolation.
people turning up with a small wood splinter in their finger will be told to man up and stop crying and go home in many cases.

when someone does have a serious reason to need immediate medical help they are taken straight to the designated ward. there is not public waiting room situation
do you get the basic idea of self isolation.

as for you thinking random 'visitors' can just walk into hospital wards, your wrong again

if you truly think that due to corona, the wards that deal with eye exampinations should be ful of patients.. again wrong.. self isolation is self isolation

hospitals on average have only ~200 ICU beds per hosptial
yea a town might have a populations of 20,000 but if 1% get sick. thats it.

self isolation is not to kill the virus. its to delay how fast it spreads to give hospitals more time to train, get more supplies, and prepare for the onslaught.

if you really think that this virus is at the end and in 2 weeks its business as usual. your deluded.
companies are manufacturing masks. manufacturing ventilators, manufacturing medications because they know and government know this thing will be happening for months

you are an utter idiot if yo think its over and finished with already

I'm so shocked. That anyone would contradict what the hospitals were telling you. ( )


People Who Question Crisis Stories from Mainstream Media Visit Hospitals and Find Empty Emergency Rooms

Yes, there is a published scientific article on this. If you want I'll dredge it up.

"Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/

"Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, a Rutgers University professor at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology, said the coronavirus behind the pandemic is 96.2% similar to a bat virus discovered by the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2013 and studied at the Wuhan CDC. The virus could have jumped naturally from animal to human but also could have escaped from the lab, he said."


Hmmmm... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

your the one that does not research or try things.

the stop the pirates is typical freeman cult crap. yep more proof you are the one stuck in that cult
that has been going around for a decade and has been myth busted.

sorry but you cant gain the property by breaking into it. doing a bit of work then charging someone for it.
sorry but there is no proof of contract that an agreement was made.
thus you are tresspassing. thus you end up in more trouble if you went to court trying to show proof you entered a house and modified it without permission

see how little you know about common sense
no stop being a blind cult follower and put those remaining brain cells to real stuff
your cult and its scripts have been myth busted a decade ago

and before you try another.. there is no secret trust fund with your name on it. that is just another busted myth..
atleast try to learn something

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anyway.
instead of having hallucinations about things that you think are real. actually learn whats actually happening with the corona events as they progress.

Most people don't understand what is going on. And they don't even realize that they should understand if only for the protection of themselves and their families.

Nobody really knows the outcome of legal trials ahead of time. The odds might seem to be this way or that. But there are many trials that have wound up differently than expected because of some last-minute introduction of some obscure evidence.

If you would like to see what is really going on in the legal world, apply what appears to be happening in the world, to what is written at Stop The Pirates.

Relax. We all know that you can't read it, to say nothing about understanding it. But try. Trying is the way you learn new things.