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legendary
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March 30, 2020, 12:40:53 AM

Prior to the Wuhan release the CDC wouldn't allow a death to be attributed to coronavirus.  Now the CDC is instructing that every person who died with coronavirus in their system, no matter how they died, to be labeled a coronavirus death.  And at any given time a sizable percentage of humans will have some SARS-cov-2 in their system.

As with most things in our phony world, it's all about how to massage numbers on a graph or spreadsheet.  The very same event (like any other coronavirus infection which makes a pass every year) can be either something which nobody even knows or thinks about to the biggest pandemic in 100 years just by playing with some numbers and seeding some social media outlets at just the right time.

Note that the CDC will and has happily labeled a shotgun blast to the head to be a 'kratom death' because the deceased had kratom in his system if there is a political reason to do so.


If the world went through a real pandemic, what would be different from whats happening right now?

For one thing, some people would be dieing from the disease rather than people dieing from something else being labeled as dieing from the disease.

Do you really know that nobody has died from Covid-19?  How could you know that?
legendary
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March 30, 2020, 12:37:21 AM

Prior to the Wuhan release the CDC wouldn't allow a death to be attributed to coronavirus.  Now the CDC is instructing that every person who died with coronavirus in their system, no matter how they died, to be labeled a coronavirus death.  And at any given time a sizable percentage of humans will have some SARS-cov-2 in their system.

As with most things in our phony world, it's all about how to massage numbers on a graph or spreadsheet.  The very same event (like any other coronavirus infection which makes a pass every year) can be either something which nobody even knows or thinks about to the biggest pandemic in 100 years just by playing with some numbers and seeding some social media outlets at just the right time.

Note that the CDC will and has happily labeled a shotgun blast to the head to be a 'kratom death' because the deceased had kratom in his system if there is a political reason to do so.


If the world went through a real pandemic, what would be different from whats happening right now?

For one thing, some people would be dieing from the disease rather than people dieing from something else being labeled as dieing from the disease.


Or do you think all the other pandemics throughout history were phony also?

I wasn't there, but as best I can tell the bubonic plague was as real as a heart attack.

The question in my mind is whether the bubonic plague was a biological warfare agent.  Actually it's historical fact that it was used as one by catapulting corpses over city walls in a siege, but my question is was it actually developed by refinement somewhere in some alchemist's lab?  I doubt it, but I also suspect that the sophistication of some of these alchemists is not fully appreciated.  And biological agent creation is fundamentally no more difficult than selectively breading animals.  In fact it's a lot more practical because the lifecycle of pathogens is much shorter.

legendary
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March 30, 2020, 12:26:04 AM
If people think this is bad, wait until they hear about influenza

Since October 2019:

13,000,000 – 18,000,000
flu illnesses

5,900,000 – 8,500,000
flu medical visits

120,000 – 210,000
flu hospitalizations

6,600 – 17,000
flu deaths

corona - v has crushed this and you spoke far too soon.

Prior to the Wuhan release the CDC wouldn't allow a death to be attributed to coronavirus.  Now the CDC is instructing that every person who died with coronavirus in their system, no matter how they died, to be labeled a coronavirus death.  And at any given time a sizable percentage of humans will have some SARS-cov-2 in their system.

As with most things in our phony world, it's all about how to massage numbers on a graph or spreadsheet.  The very same event (like any other coronavirus infection which makes a pass every year) can be either something which nobody even knows or thinks about to the biggest pandemic in 100 years just by playing with some numbers and seeding some social media outlets at just the right time.

Note that the CDC will and has happily labeled a shotgun blast to the head to be a 'kratom death' because the deceased had kratom in his system if there is a political reason to do so.



If the world went through a real pandemic, what would be different from whats happening right now?

Or do you think all the other pandemics throughout history were phony also?
legendary
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March 30, 2020, 12:17:08 AM
If people think this is bad, wait until they hear about influenza

Since October 2019:

13,000,000 – 18,000,000
flu illnesses

5,900,000 – 8,500,000
flu medical visits

120,000 – 210,000
flu hospitalizations

6,600 – 17,000
flu deaths

corona - v has crushed this and you spoke far too soon.

Prior to the Wuhan release the CDC wouldn't allow a death to be attributed to coronavirus.  Now the CDC is instructing that every person who died with coronavirus in their system, no matter how they died, to be labeled a coronavirus death.  And at any given time a sizable percentage of humans will have some SARS-cov-2 in their system.

As with most things in our phony world, it's all about how to massage numbers on a graph or spreadsheet.  The very same event (like any other coronavirus infection which makes a pass every year) can be either something which nobody even knows or thinks about to the biggest pandemic in 100 years just by playing with some numbers and seeding some social media outlets at just the right time.

Note that the CDC will and has happily labeled a shotgun blast to the head to be a 'kratom death' because the deceased had kratom in his system if there is a political reason to do so.

legendary
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March 29, 2020, 11:59:09 PM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/

South Korea is about the only developed country that has nailed the response to coronavirus and it's mind boggling considering they haven't shut down the entire country.



Pretty incredible what social distancing + mass testing will get you.

They are also big on mask wearing. Same thing in China and Taiwan. Pretty certain cultures that do that already are one step ahead in the game.
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 11:52:43 PM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/


South Korea is about the only developed country that has nailed the response to coronavirus and it's mind boggling considering they haven't shut down the entire country.




Pretty incredible what social distancing + mass testing will get you.
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March 29, 2020, 04:58:02 PM
If people think this is bad, wait until they hear about influenza

Since October 2019:

13,000,000 – 18,000,000
flu illnesses

5,900,000 – 8,500,000
flu medical visits

120,000 – 210,000
flu hospitalizations

6,600 – 17,000
flu deaths

corona - v has crushed this and you spoke far too soon.
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 12:21:38 PM
"New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C "

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 09:01:21 AM
Probably dentists have stock in breakfast cereal companies. After all, most of these companies fortify their cereals with iron, these days. Try chewing on an iron bar and seeing what it does to your teeth. Fortified with iron... more money for the dentist.

OMG now you really are showing your stupidity comparing the metal iron with the powdered form..
you could have hid your stupidity and atleast resembled having a point by mentioning the sugar added to cereal.
but no you had to go down the iron route as the conspiracy of dentists with shares in cereal companies


Gotcha. Cheesy

You are such a trip!

Cool
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 06:22:19 AM
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I wish there was a better way to see those numbers, e.g. as cases per hospital bed or ICU, or a downward chart of available ICU beds, or something like that. I haven't found such a data source, not real time anyway. Perhaps that would make it clearer to some deniers.

Another thing that is very misleading is the mortality rate I've seen some claiming as being lower than in other countries. It's between 1-2% if you just divide the number of deaths by the number of cases but that's inaccurate because most of those who test positive today may not die or recover until 2+ weeks later when the case count will have grown 20-fold. Not sure what the proper calculation is but certainly not that.

some countries are just testing patients on ICU beds with respiratory issues to make sure its corona and not asthma or panic attack or other things like copd. so out of those. only 6% died

however now they are swabbing more randomly of people who are not even symptomatic but have been in proximity of those with it. which then makes the death rate less. because although they have it. they are not symptomatic so it dilutes the stats.

the way you have to imagine it is EVERYONE is going to get it. EVERYONE but only 1% will be symptomatic enough to need reporting. and only 6% of those symptomatic enough to need reporting will be critical/risk of death
in short if everyone was swabbed.. it would end up as a 0.06% death rate. but because only critical were being swabbed it was 6%.. but now that % is going down the more random swabs are done

what people also need to realise. self isolation is not to stamp out the virus and kill it. its to prevent the people isolating from spreading it to everyone in one go.
you will see more peaks and troths of it throughout the year. and the government will control when to loosen the restrictions and tighten them again if it spreads to the rest too fast.
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 04:35:07 AM

So out of curiosity, would you have preferred Hillary? That's the alternative.

Of course not.  2020 would have come a couple years earlier under her is all.  Actually 2020 was always going to be in 2020, but she would have set things up slightly different and with more of a heavy hand in some respects to favor a different faction of the so-called 'new world order' crowd.  Basically the 'resource-backed monetary system' guys vs. the 'another debt-backed monetary system' crowd.  The implosion was set for 2020 no matter what.

I didn't know one way or another whether Trump was just a different flavor of swamp creature when I supported him in 2016.  Strongly suspected it though.   I did expect that a Trump presidency, even if it was as corrupt as it turned out to be, would give me some time to bail out.  That it did.

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Edit:  I forgot to mention that reserve requirements were quietly brought to zero a little while ago.  What that means to someone who understand monetary science is 'That's all, Folks.'

legendary
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March 29, 2020, 04:28:47 AM


Furthermore, Harambe threatened funding for the 5G program, which is why he was assassinated.
5G is weird. There is no practical reason to build it.
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 04:27:30 AM


Furthermore, Harambe threatened funding for the 5G program, which is why he was assassinated.

Run-of-the-mill strawman so you don't have to discuss real scientific issues.  Yawn.

Keep at it though because every time content-less losers try to use the schtick it becomes weaker and the more people recognize you for a non-reliable person who's got nothing.

legendary
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March 29, 2020, 04:25:06 AM

Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-second-french-study-by-dr-raoult-finds-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-helped-every-patient-in-study-group-of-80-minus-one-video/

This French doctor and researcher is one of many very distinguished peers saying this thing is a nothingburger.  These people are so estemed that they don't want their reputations tarnished apperently.  And a lot of them are probably also simply humanitarians who see where this thing is going:

  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3455

Before that cut is a littany of media mouthpieces saying the most absurd fearmongering and anti-Trump stuff imaginable.  Worth a watch as well.

I'll say it again.  MSN, CNBC, NPR, CNN, etc, etc are going to succeed only in bolstering the lie that Trump is some sort of a genius who's judgement will save the nation.  For over 4 years, these mainstream (supposed) 'enemies' of Donald have been his best friends and have done the most to get his extremely corrupt and anti-American swamp cronies to the positions they now hold.

So out of curiosity, would you have preferred Hillary? That's the alternative.
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 04:18:56 AM
124,000

I wish there was a better way to see those numbers, e.g. as cases per hospital bed or ICU, or a downward chart of available ICU beds, or something like that. I haven't found such a data source, not real time anyway. Perhaps that would make it clearer to some deniers.

Another thing that is very misleading is the mortality rate I've seen some claiming as being lower than in other countries. It's between 1-2% if you just divide the number of deaths by the number of cases but that's inaccurate because most of those who test positive today may not die or recover until 2+ weeks later when the case count will have grown 20-fold. Not sure what the proper calculation is but certainly not that.
Death/(death+recovered).

Alternatively death/infected times four (doubling time 6 days, 2 weeks asymptomatic).
sr. member
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March 29, 2020, 04:03:40 AM
Russia alos using existing anti-malaria drug  Mefloquine, (Lariam)
https://www.rt.com/russia/484364-russian-drug-treatment-covid19/
Chloroquine approvend and save to use since 1955, Mefloquine — been around since the 1970
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 03:54:31 AM

Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-second-french-study-by-dr-raoult-finds-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-helped-every-patient-in-study-group-of-80-minus-one-video/

This French doctor and researcher is one of many very distinguished peers saying this thing is a nothingburger.  These people are so estemed that they don't want their reputations tarnished apperently.  And a lot of them are probably also simply humanitarians who see where this thing is going:

  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3455

Before that cut is a littany of media mouthpieces saying the most absurd fearmongering and anti-Trump stuff imaginable.  Worth a watch as well.

I'll say it again.  MSN, CNBC, NPR, CNN, etc, etc are going to succeed only in bolstering the lie that Trump is some sort of a genius who's judgement will save the nation.  For over 4 years, these mainstream (supposed) 'enemies' of Donald have been his best friends and have done the most to get his extremely corrupt and anti-American swamp cronies to the positions they now hold.

sr. member
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March 29, 2020, 12:36:27 AM

Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-second-french-study-by-dr-raoult-finds-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-helped-every-patient-in-study-group-of-80-minus-one-video/
legendary
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March 29, 2020, 12:31:46 AM
124,000

I wish there was a better way to see those numbers, e.g. as cases per hospital bed or ICU, or a downward chart of available ICU beds, or something like that. I haven't found such a data source, not real time anyway. Perhaps that would make it clearer to some deniers.

Another thing that is very misleading is the mortality rate I've seen some claiming as being lower than in other countries. It's between 1-2% if you just divide the number of deaths by the number of cases but that's inaccurate because most of those who test positive today may not die or recover until 2+ weeks later when the case count will have grown 20-fold. Not sure what the proper calculation is but certainly not that.
legendary
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March 28, 2020, 10:28:04 PM
Things are continuing to get worse each day here in the United Sates.  We've well taken over the global lead of cases found , which now is around 124,000.  Just yesterday along the United States had nearly 20,000 new cases. That's more than many countries have had period, since the very beginning.  The United States today had something around 18,000 I believe it was.  People please stop going outside and gather in groups.  It blows my mind that people are going outside and playing basketball, soccer, etc.  Even seeing groups of people walking and not practicing social distancing is spitting right in the face of those whom are not in full health.  Not to mention spitting in the face of people whom have relatives, close friends and immediate family members who couldn't take a risk of getting the flu.  I myself have a couple family members who would likely not make it had the been infected with this virus.  Please stay responsible out there people.
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