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January 13, 2022, 03:37:00 AM
The end is nearing and the virus will have it's time in court
PREMEDITATED MASS MURDER? Reiner Fuellmich's Upcoming Legal Battle Against Gates, Fauci, Tedros  & Christian Heinrich Maria Drosten
https://ugetube.com/watch/premeditated-mass-murder-reiner-fuellmich-039-s-upcoming-legal-battle-against-gates-fauci-tedros_TVc9M1jOYyACvrR.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=hIWHNmFCnXWrQlXBMMlruJJbNoDhMS9HTClJYoOJ5nU-1642059924-0-gaNycGzNB_0





Ivermectin “Works Throughout All Phases” of Covid… so Why Has the Medical Establishment SUPPRESSED It for Two Years?
https://uncanceled.news/leaked-military-documents-show-ivermectin-works-throughout-all-phases-of-covid-so-why-has-the-medical-establishment-suppressed-it-for-two-years/


Why would the test be different to the so called vaccine.
https://proudamerican.site/urgent-abbott-binaxnow-covid-19-home-test-kit-contains-lethal-ingredient/
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January 11, 2022, 05:10:33 AM
Coronavirus is deadly infected around the world but a dose of Covid is the best one to safe from coronavirus

Is there a proof of your words? How can you be sure that a dose of covid wont hurt your organism badly? I risked and took vaccine and booster only to be able to enter facilities (shops), not to lose job, as well as to be able to travel. These benefits overpower risk.

For your information, vaccine does not make you safe, it just makes you get over the disease easier. Vaccine does not make you immune. Check daily case number and pay attention to part vaccinated/unvaccinated.

Yeah Definitely I agree with your words. People after taking a dose are prone to COVID also.
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January 11, 2022, 03:02:21 AM
legendary
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January 10, 2022, 06:18:29 PM
funny part is.
when a new buzzword is created that is never used commonly before it trended. it then becomes the people shouting "mass formation psychosis" that actually suffer from "mass formation psychosis", because they shout it without thinking/researching to understand it, or know if its true or not.

if you think shouting "covid" is a "mass formation psychosis", then please just talk to any ICU doctor of any hospital.. but first please avoid speaking to your homeopathic herbal supplement salesperson who gives backrubs who says they are a specialist doctor
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January 10, 2022, 01:25:22 PM

This is not a fact check, this is an editorialization, which further proves the point of mass formation psychosis for you to mindlessly link this and not even think twice.

Do you not find it suspect at all that such a "fact" check would come when people begin to question the Covid narrative?

Reuters, purported to be a "neutral" source of news just like the AP published a similar fact check on mass formation psychosis.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-psychology/fact-check-no-evidence-of-pandemic-mass-formation-psychosis-say-experts-speaking-to-reuters-idUSL1N2TN1RE

As expected, they arrive at the same conclusion the AP does.

Let me provide you an alternative fact check the AP/Reuters would never publish. An example that even you might understand. Recall when BLM terrorists are burning down American cities in 2020, violence you seem to condone as long as its social justice on the woke menu of the day. Do you remember the AP/Reuters ever publishing a fact check that only 13 unarmed black people were shot in 2019? That an unarmed black male has a greater chance of getting killed by the weather, perhaps a lightning strike, than being killed by police unarmed in the United States? That cancer, heart attacks, random gun violence by other black males themselves, are all causes of death which outrank police involved shooting deaths by a large margin? Would the MSM ever attempt to squash myths and irrational fears of being killed by police as a black man in America by publishing the true statistics of police involved deaths of African American men?

The answer is no.

In fact, if you do go against the giant media companies and the narrative they wish to pursue, you jeopardize your career: https://www.city-journal.org/black-lives-matter-thomson-reuters-and-the-price-of-dissent

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But within a few months, this would all collapse. A chain of events—beginning with the death of George Floyd and culminating with a statistical analysis of Black Lives Matter’s claims—would turn the 44-year-old data scientist’s life upside-down. By June 2021, Kriegman would be locked out of Reuters’s servers, denounced by his colleagues, and fired by email. Kriegman had committed an unpardonable offense: he directly criticized the Black Lives Matter movement in the company’s internal communications forum, debunked Reuters’s own biased reporting, and violated a corporate taboo. Driven by what he called a “moral obligation” to speak out, Kriegman refused to celebrate unquestioningly the BLM narrative and his company’s “diversity and inclusion” programming; to the contrary, he argued that Reuters was exhibiting significant left-wing bias in the newsroom and that the ongoing BLM protests, riots, and calls to “defund the police” would wreak havoc on minority communities. Week after week, Kriegman felt increasingly disillusioned by the Thomson Reuters line. Finally, on the first Tuesday in May 2021, he posted a long, data-intensive critique of BLM’s and his company’s hypocrisy. He was sent to Human Resources and Diversity & Inclusion for the chance to reform his thoughts.

A blog post, not a factual article to be clear. But it describes a statistician that worked for Reuters, who objected to the BLM narrative put forth by Reuters, and was chastised and fired for daring to dissent. 

The media have an agenda, and will refuse to touch anything politically unfeasible, whether it be systemic racism or Covid lock down restrictions. For the AP to go around hunting for the opinion of a few psychology professors, undoubtedly on the political left, and present their opinions as a "fact check" is by definition propaganda.

On Dr. Malone -- He is a medical doctor with an active medical license and training from Harvard medical school, with patents from the 1990's in mRNA technology. This isn't some quack with an online doctorate from Infowars. If you dispute what he says, don't attack his character, attack his arguments.
legendary
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January 10, 2022, 07:45:41 AM
Coronavirus is deadly infected around the world but a dose of Covid is the best one to safe from coronavirus

Is there a proof of your words? How can you be sure that a dose of covid wont hurt your organism badly? I risked and took vaccine and booster only to be able to enter facilities (shops), not to lose job, as well as to be able to travel. These benefits overpower risk.

For your information, vaccine does not make you safe, it just makes you get over the disease easier. Vaccine does not make you immune. Check daily case number and pay attention to part vaccinated/unvaccinated.

It's obviously a kid or a bot trying to build a posting history.  Seen a lot of if on this forum  lately.  Don't worry about him/it.

legendary
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January 10, 2022, 07:41:31 AM
Coronavirus is deadly infected around the world but a dose of Covid is the best one to safe from coronavirus

Is there a proof of your words? How can you be sure that a dose of covid wont hurt your organism badly? I risked and took vaccine and booster only to be able to enter facilities (shops), not to lose job, as well as to be able to travel. These benefits overpower risk.

For your information, vaccine does not make you safe, it just makes you get over the disease easier. Vaccine does not make you immune. Check daily case number and pay attention to part vaccinated/unvaccinated.
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January 10, 2022, 07:30:17 AM
Coronavirus is deadly infected around the world but a dose of Covid is the best one to safe from coronavirus
legendary
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January 10, 2022, 05:40:26 AM
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Judicial Watch Files Lawsuits Against Dr. Fauci And HHS
https://musictunez.com/just-in-judicial-watch-files-lawsuits-against-dr-fauci-and-hhs/
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Good for them, but it's not like they are going to win anything real in court.  The main positive benefit will be that it will lessen the time between now and when people finally catch on that we are under a new government where all the crap we learned in school about the 'three branches of govt' and 'constitution' and all that is an obsolete charade.

My own contention is that this postulated 'new government' has actually been in place for quite a number of years, the existence of and shift to a new form of govt has been a 'state secret', and the strategy to make things go more smoothly has been to 'fake it' to a degree.  You could still 'lose in court' on a FOIA case and be 'forced to' caught up e-mails, for instance, if you are staging a psy-op designed to mollify a population who hopes that voting harder will overcome what they see as problems.  One of the reasons I say this is the mute response to questions about blatant violations of the 'old laws' when sufficiently high level authority figures are asked about them.  Similarly, the latitude that officials such as Clapper have to bold-faced lie in congressional testimony with nothing done about it.  It's a hypothesis which best explains many many such observations.

As for when such a shift might have occurred, the 9/11 timeframe is a good candidate.  Not many people recognize the significance of 'declarations' of emergency and stuff like that because the details will have been buried in arcane bureaucratic documents in the years or decades preceding.  Likely such a governance shift would have been ratcheted in in phases, and the abandonment of Bretton-Woods under Nixon/Kissinger might have itself been one of the early shifts.  Almost all of this stuff is based on economics actually.  That's one of the reasons why Bitcoin has itself been of interest to me since the early days.

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January 10, 2022, 03:56:17 AM
Djokovic wins (court case)  Edit: https://www.peacefmonline.com/pages/sports/tennis/202201/458580.php
Ocasio-Cortez tests + (fully boosted)

Old classic
https://youtu.be/pxiQeZ21SFU

Judicial Watch Files Lawsuits Against Dr. Fauci And HHS
https://musictunez.com/just-in-judicial-watch-files-lawsuits-against-dr-fauci-and-hhs/


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January 09, 2022, 11:26:05 AM
As a group, all of you are being targeted by rage bait headlines, and it seems to be working on you especially well.  That's my point.  

Well, at a certain point the "rage bait" headline isn't so much bait if the underlying principles are still egregious. You may not find them to be egregious, but after two years and enough of these headlines, they certainly seem to be pointing to to a common theme.

The rage bait is making you believe things that aren't true.

Another example of you buying into the nonsense bouncing around the anti-vax echo chamber:


To the extent Covid has made us all deranged, perhaps the most overlooked phenomenon of Covid is the mass formation psychosis generated out of fear, uncertainty, and anxiety.

See Dr. Malone, Harvard trained medical doctor, explain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJSwigON0k

As explained, an intellectual inquiry made by social scientists as to how it was possible that Nazi Germany would arise from a well educated population comprised of a civil society. How was it possible that a democracy could result in fascism comprising of the systematic extermination of 9 million jews. Surely humans weren't animals in the 1930's, yet we acted like it. Mass formation psychosis was the proposed answer.

It doesn't take much for humans to lose grip on reality, it only takes a bit of fear for emotions to run rampant. How people still fear Covid after 2 years, vaccines, therapeutics, and variants with less virulence is beyond comprehension.  

FACT FOCUS: Unfounded theory used to dismiss COVID measures
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-joe-rogan-ap-fact-check-a87b1044c6256968dcc33886a36c949f


Cliffs: The guy is full of shit.  Mass Formation Psychosis is not the result of some 'intellectual inquiry', it's some bullshit that anti vaxxers started pretending was a real thing in 2021 to make them feel smart or something.

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Psychology experts say there is no support for the “psychosis” theory described by Malone.

“To my knowledge, there’s no evidence whatsoever for this concept,” said Jay Van Bavel, an assistant professor of psychology and neural science at New York University who recently co-authored a book on group identities. Van Bavel said he had never encountered the phrase “mass formation psychosis” in his years of research, nor could he find it in any peer-reviewed literature.

“The concept has no academic credibility[/b],” Stephen Reicher, a social psychology professor at the University of St Andrews in the U.K., wrote in an email to The Associated Press.

The term also does not appear in the American Psychological Association’s Dictionary of Psychology.

“Psychosis” is a term that refers to conditions that involve some disconnect from reality. According to a National Institutes of Health estimate, about 3% of people experience some form of psychosis at some time in their lives.

Richard McNally, a professor of clinical psychology at Harvard University, wrote in an email that people who support COVID-19 vaccines and public health guidance are not delusional. Rather, they are “fully responsive to the arguments and evidence adduced by the relevant scientific experts.”

Health officials have found the COVID-19 vaccines to be safe and effective — especially in terms of protecting against serious illness.

The description of “mass formation psychosis” offered by Malone resembles discredited concepts, such as “mob mentality” and “group mind,” according to John Drury, a social psychologist at the University of Sussex in the U.K. who studies collective behavior. The ideas suggest that “when people form part of a psychological crowd they lose their identities and their self-control; they become suggestible, and primitive instinctive impulses predominate,” he said in an email.

That notion has been discredited by decades of research on crowd behavior, Drury said. “No respectable psychologist agrees with these ideas now,” he said.

Multiple experts told the AP that while there is evidence that groups can shape or influence one’s behaviors — and that people can and do believe falsehoods that are put forward by the leader of a group — those concepts do not involve the masses experiencing “psychosis” or “hypnosis.”

Steven Jay Lynn, a psychology professor at Binghamton University in New York, said Malone’s argument that a group can “literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere” is premised on a myth about hypnosis.

“His claim represents a serious misunderstanding of hypnosis and doubles down on the popular misconception that hypnosis somehow transforms people into mindless robots who think what the hypnotist wants them to think and do the hypnotist’s bidding,” Lynn said in an email. “The scientifically established fact is that people can easily resist and even oppose suggestions.”
legendary
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January 09, 2022, 10:45:53 AM
As a group, all of you are being targeted by rage bait headlines, and it seems to be working on you especially well.  That's my point.  

Well, at a certain point the "rage bait" headline isn't so much bait if the underlying principles are still egregious. You may not find them to be egregious, but after two years and enough of these headlines, they certainly seem to be pointing to to a common theme.
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January 09, 2022, 10:04:08 AM
Still not found, looked unter the rug, behind the curtain, in the cellar and out-house, nope not anywhere.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/proofthatcovid19hasbeenisolatedinalaboratory

Can't blame 'em after all it was most likely hard earned.
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January 09, 2022, 12:52:53 AM
You gotta stop falling for all the rage bait.  Apparently any headline that says someone got arrested or thrown in jail or beat up by police for not wearing a mask gets a shitload of clicks, because there are a ton of them.  But if you bother reading any of them you'll see most of them are pretty just a variation of the same story.  Person isn't wearing a mask where masks are required => Police Approach them and explain the rules => Person ignores police/ argues with police / tries to intimidate police / refuses to wear mask or leave/ lies about who they are or something else stupid.

So you're okay with police harassing citizens over not wearing a piece of cloth over their face? Maybe when you drop the partisanship you'll have an understanding at how much power the government has gained over the last 2 years. It's ubiquitous.

If you're somewhere that masks are required, I'm fine with literally anyone letting someone else that doesn't have a mask on that they're in a place that requires them.

You disagree that people should have to wear masks, we've established that.  There are lots of people who agree with you.

As a group, all of you are being targeted by rage bait headlines, and it seems to be working on you especially well.  That's my point.  

Yes, there a rules that people have to wear masks in certain public places while they're doing or not doing certain things.  
Yes, the rules are sometimes enforced.
No, the police in Australia aren't just going around throwing people in jail because they weren't wearing a mask.
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January 08, 2022, 06:39:58 PM
Macron isn't letting unvaccinated into places like restaurants and theaters, Just like NYC, or Hawaii, or Italy, or Germany, or plenty of other places.

You probably don't recognize how insane that is because you agree with such draconian measures. It is excessive overreach of government intervention to "stop" a pandemic. I say stop with trepidation because it's actually not accurate to anyone that is paying attention to the raw data this pandemic has produced. Meaning, COVID is endemic. There is no stopping it, it will continue to mutate into variants, work its way through the population, until a new variant forms that evades previous immunity, and the cycle repeats.

Don't take my word for it, take the word of "the experts."

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2

What he really wants is everyone to get vaccinated.
 

See above. COVID will not end.

Because that's how you end a pandemic.
 

Do you actually think vaccination stops transmission?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker - 3 quarters of the US population has at least one dose, two doses for over 60 percent of the population.

Yet they are averaging 500k cases a day. Fully vaxxed and even boosted people are catching omicron, it isn't likely that it's unvaxxed people driving the spread. Omicron is evading vaccine induced immunity. And to be fair, it's evading natural immunity as well.

Omicron is too far distant from the original strain. But, the disease is very mild.

Guess what, most first world countries have been requiring children get almost a dozen different vaccines in order to be admitted into a public school.  Why would they do that?  Because when everyone gets vaccinated for a specific virus, people stop dying from the virus.  It's not a coincidence that human life expectancy has doubled in the past 100 years, and about 100 years ago was when Humans started to make progress developing some of the same vaccines that 9 out 10 people have taken in most first world countries.

The death rate for the flu is greater than that of Covid. But I don't think you knew that so it's okay. If you can point me to vaccinate mandates, masking, school closures, and/or forcing children to eat outside in the cold while masked for the flu, I'm willing to hear it.

You gotta stop falling for all the rage bait.  Apparently any headline that says someone got arrested or thrown in jail or beat up by police for not wearing a mask gets a shitload of clicks, because there are a ton of them.  But if you bother reading any of them you'll see most of them are pretty just a variation of the same story.  Person isn't wearing a mask where masks are required => Police Approach them and explain the rules => Person ignores police/ argues with police / tries to intimidate police / refuses to wear mask or leave/ lies about who they are or something else stupid.

So you're okay with police harassing citizens over not wearing a piece of cloth over their face? Maybe when you drop the partisanship you'll have an understanding at how much power the government has gained over the last 2 years. It's ubiquitous.
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January 08, 2022, 11:44:41 AM
If you've been paying close attention to nations like Australia, France, and Germany, their courts have also declared Covid to be a severe emergency, such that law enforcement can imprison those that might be outside without a mask or enter a building without being vaxxed.

Imagine two years ago if someone had told you people would be jailed for not showing you they took a shot.

You're idea of paying close attention seems to be reading right wing headlines and then getting angry, as I've already addressed, the way you're describing the world right now and reality are not the same thing.  Quit falling for the rage bait - it doesn't take much effort to dig a little deeper than a headline.


There were plenty more misstatements of fact. I only picked the most egregious one that is easily disputable. There is no possible way to believe Omicron is as deadly as Delta.

I'm not going to waste my time inevitably getting into a semantics debate with you, but you picked an out of context tweet that was meant to fire up the whole "I did my research and all those experts are wrong!" crowd.  I already posted a link to what was actually said.
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January 07, 2022, 03:20:49 PM
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Government is only willing to take as much power as the people are willing to give it, until inevitably they overreach. I am not opposed to letting people dictate the way they want to live. If they wish for government to micro manage every faucet of society, it's their choice. ...


It's fairly clear to me that what they really want is for a central authority to control other people's lives.  They probably would vaguely prefer to control their own lives themselves but are pretty ambivalent about it and it's worth their own loss of freedom to experience the joy of seeing others be 'controlled'.

I know a lot of these people, and it's a universal characteristic that they cannot envision a situation where the authority is not 'on their side' and 'has their back.'  The reason Trump was so destabilizing to them emotionally is because logically it shook their world, but emotionally they were able to remain in denial and write it off as a one-time accident of fate than cannot (and cannot be allowed to) ever happen again.  Funny enough, Trump might as well been 'one of them' because he was actually quite supportive of most of their priorities, not the least of which was shoving through the corp/gov gene therapy in time for Biden.  They are just to dense and shell-shocked to realize it.  In Prof. Desmet terms Trump might as well been named 'Donald Free-Floating-Anxiety Trump', and that was possibly the main reason he was inserted for a few years.  Worked stunningly.

Anyway, there are 10,000 religious sects who will be more than happy to micro-manage peoples lives and dictate their behaviors.  These collectivist/communitarian creepers should go join one of them, and leave us more individually minded people alone, and be happy.  Best done before they turn an annoying and depressing world into a truly frightful one with massive internecine struggle.  Or I should say, before they are successfully used as tools to do so since it is what their controllers dream about.

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January 07, 2022, 02:42:04 PM
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Government is only willing to take as much power as the people are willing to give it, until inevitably they overreach. I am not opposed to letting people dictate the way they want to live. If they wish for government to micro manage every faucet of society, it's their choice. How many people would have been against government measures in March of 2020? Perhaps not many, because there was too much uncertainty, and fear overlaps rationally. Contrast is now, people are done with Covid, but the government isn't.
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January 07, 2022, 02:26:41 PM
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Imagine two years ago if someone had told you people would be jailed for not showing you they took a shot.


It's quite entertaining to see people go from:

 'it's paranoid conspiracy theory'
    --> 'well, I guess the crazy conspiracy guys were right'
        --> 'it's an obvious thing that we want, need, and are lucky to have.'

Forced vaccination with an unapproved experimental gene therapy from a corporation who has paid billions for falsifying safety data and other crimes is as natural as a tree to these corp/gov cultists who are under 'the spell'.

Professor Desmet hit the nail on the head and really solved the mystery to me.  The more absurd the required beliefs are, the better they work because it proves that the cultist is worthy to be in the cult by demonstrably accepting such a ridiculous belief.  That's the reason that something like 99.5% of the Jonestown peeps willingly drank the Kool-aid without being physically forced in the slightest.  And they started out by killing the kids.  I doubt that it was coincidence that the Jonestowners were hard-core 'collectivists' also like the center-mass of the covidiots of today.

I really had a hard time fathoming that the supporters of the plandemic were actual legitimate believers.  After hearing Prof Desmet out I kind of have to acquiesce and consider it possible that the minions are genuinely in support of there own democide out of earnest belief/hypnosis.  And even more amazingly, the faith and confidence of this 30% is only going to grow as the cloak comes off of all the lies and deceit.  Crazy but true.  Nothing can really be done about it except buying more shotgun shells in advance of the zombie apocalypse.  They will be induced to come after us with murderous intent, and probably when their bodies are completely wrecked with spike (which they will be told is due to 'the unvaxxed').  Whether their animation will be through 5G or something else is yet to be seen.

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January 07, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
US Supreme Court Justice says Omicron is as deadly as Delta - https://twitter.com/ShannonBream/status/1479480779747045381

Forgetting the position of a SCOTUS judge for a second, I see this a lot -- the conflation of variant strains merely because the uncertainty lies within the data, so the immediate worst outcome must be accepted. We do have most of the data for Omicron, so it's possible this judge just is refusing to accept the data, or is allowing emotions to get the best of her.

Fact - There has been less than 100 deaths world wide of Omicron. Someone should have told her before she made a fool of herself.

Fox News host tweets a one liner and you're off to the races.  Do you really want to be like Tash?



In case anyone is interested in context, the exchange starts just before the 47 minute mark: https://www.c-span.org/video/?516920-1/justices-hear-case-vaccine-test-mandate&live

What do you think is happening today, Twitchy?

Oral arguments for Biden's vaccine/testing mandates.

And CNN is covering this matter very closely too, if Fox News isn't your cup of tea.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-covid-vaccine-mandates-supreme-court-01-07-22/index.html

It isn't mine either, to be honest, but I did not see such a bizarre comment from a SCOTUS judge on the CNN live updates page, otherwise I would have posted it from there. What happens today is monumental. And if a SCOTUS judge can't understand basic statistics and overstates the risk of Omicron, you think that might influence how they vote? I understand we're past the point of using facts when discussing Covid, but I'd hope someone in any position of power would be able to discern facts and feelings. I didn't have any elevated expectations, however. If you've been paying close attention to nations like Australia, France, and Germany, their courts have also declared Covid to be a severe emergency, such that law enforcement can imprison those that might be outside without a mask or enter a building without being vaxxed.

Imagine two years ago if someone had told you people would be jailed for not showing you they took a shot.


Whatever the case, Sotomeyer clearly indicates that she has little doubt about Omicron causing as many deaths as Delta, and that 'fact' will be an element of her judicial decisions in the case.  Pretty much what the 'one liner' says.

There were plenty more misstatements of fact. I only picked the most egregious one that is easily disputable. There is no possible way to believe Omicron is as deadly as Delta.
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