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china made it very clear how it began. they also reacted very quickly in tough circumstances of something new. the world knew about it within a month of patient zero first thinking he only had mild symptoms.
china are not over it. the isolation is not covid. the isolation is to reduce the amount of spread in any one time. china done more than most countries by reacting early. contact tracing those that came near people testing positive, full monitoring and isolation of contacts for 2 weeks. where not even shopping is allowed for these 'monitored' group. they would be provide with home delivery and daily monitoring of symptoms
this is why chinas numbers are low.

other countries that dont do contact monitoring will get higher numbers. countries that dont do isolation but just social distancing will get even higher numbers. and those that do nothing will get even higher numbers

but here is the thing the less thats done the more that suffer in a short time and the more strain on hospitals.
the more that is done, the less that suffer at first. but the longer the situation lasts within society. reaccuring in waves if not monitored to stem the surge if it starts to spread fast again


2) the other models were based on NON-ISOLATION scenarios. which obviously because the whole point of isolation is to slowdown the spread is done mainly to reduce the amount that get it. thus reduce the numbers that get sick

3) there is no policy for police to do this. and its not a nationwide or county based policy. its just some over achieving silly officers having a swinging dick contest trying to assert their masculinity and authority.

"China Begins Mass Deletion Of Online Research On Coronavirus Origins"

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/china-begins-mass-deletion-online-research-coronavirus-origins


"Look at How Ridiculously Wrong All the Covid-19 Models Were "

https://www.targetliberty.com/2020/04/look-at-how-ridiculously-wrong-all.html


"UK Police Force Threatens to Search Shopping Baskets to Catch ‘Lockdown’ Violators"

https://summit.news/2020/04/09/uk-police-force-threatens-to-search-shopping-baskets-to-catch-lockdown-violators/

India is doing basically no tests. They have no numbers to work with. As might be expected from the literal asshole of the world, they are bullshitters.

Seems to work, When compulsory?

-------	Total died		Dead per Million		Population
India	249		0,2		1,380,004,385
Italy	19468		322		60,461,826

The difference in franky1's country is, the doctors are paid a flat rate, while the extra goes to their bosses. This means that the medical is stymied over there, rather than having any reason to look into what's really happening in diseases and infections.

That's one of the reasons why few great breakthroughs come from franky1 and his peers. In fact, they are so stymied that they think it is good this way.

Hey, man. Thanks for this video. Always wondered what part of the world you were brought up in.

We love our movies. The excitement in bloodcurtling movies is wonderful. Since this is what we are asking for, God is giving us more of the same...

He is letting the fake movie-like happenings come in right among us. Yet we think that they are real, just like all the stuff that is staged in the movies.

God is Great. He is wonderful. He is giving us what we ask for! More fake realism just like the movies we love.

Doctors are not getting paid per test- as it happens in the most countries.
However, patients shouldn't pay for each test that they ask for?
That's how it works in my country and it is a way to dis encourage patients to make the test by themselves.

Cow dung is just as effective, LOL. Consume daily, wash it down with MMS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHdYLQiFsyo

PS. Read the Bible in between.  Thank God for all the diseases and his other 'mysterious works/ways'.

If they placed as much bleach into pool water as there is in MMS, people would get cured of everything... except for one reason.

That small amount of bleach would prove to be uncomfortable for mucus membranes in the eyes and other sensitive parts of the body. This means that few people would swim in this kind of treated water. So, the cure rate would be about the same, while the swim rate would go way down.

The best idea is to take the MMS internally, a little at a time, on a regular basis. This way we could get the medical almost entirely out of our lives.

Just think of all the great things we could do in life, if we had all the money that we spend on medical and medical insurance, to do other things with. And that is what would happen if we simply drank a little MMS-water on a daily or weekly basis.

MMS is quite inexpensive.

He doesn't have a clue about the rate of disassociation of chlorine dioxide, either. Or its implications.

now lets see how many parts
take a number like 10m = 10,000,000

'6 drops per 4oz' of MMS = 00,033,333
standard swimpool water = 00,000,030
house tap drinking water = 00,000,005

so badecker, based on his church website
 is advising to drink something over 1000x higher than pool water, 10,000x more than tap water

utter idiot

i know he personally doesnt drink that much.. or it would burn his throat.
i bet those snail oil salesmen are just selling little viles of water and calling it chlorine and then shouting how remarkable ithat it doesnt burn throat(coz there is no chlorine in it)

anyone who ventures out of a basement and swims in a pool and accidently drinks pool water knows how the sting feels.. now imagine it 1000x worse by using amounts badecker links adverts of suggestions

utter idiot

Stupid joker franky1 doesn't realize that MMS literally explodes viruses and bacteria in our bodies, when the chlorine dioxide bubbles come into contact with them. That F-1 Joker would rather play around with stuff that doesn't work, than heal us from the CV problems. Check out https://g2churchnews.org/581-g2voice-186.

now the idiot recommends blowing people up as a cure for corona
he has officially detached himself from reality.

im kinda wishing that he now just uses his latest "cure" on himself. plenty of blackmarket websites accept bitcoin. so he should try it

 

You just don't get it, do you?

If he goes out and buys a military bazooka, and blows all his patients up by firing the bazooka at them...

... and if they get up and walk away cured a few hours after being blown up...

... who in the world cares about your silly protocols?

Wake up! The idea is curing people, not playing the doctor game.

though im not sure if its just a one case of an ER doctor getting too ahead of himself, jumping the protocol a few steps. or if he is just incompetent or is following a outdated protocol.. or its just how america does things
im kind of swaying to think he got reprimanded and immediately tried to find a media outlet to speak publicly on so he can set a narrative that he was following some protocol thus 'not my fault' defense
but anyway

doing full invasive ventilation which requires sedation to fully allow the machine to take control of the breathing. is a last protocol. in regards to oxygen control this is because the longer you are on it, the longer and harder it is to recover after it.
so the later you leave it before implementing it, the better.(unless the patient is already in the critical category)

if a person has strained breathing. CPAP and bipap can be considered. these wont damage the lungs. but there was a concern that inhaling positive pressure air in the nose and exhaling can aerosolise the virus. meaning doctors and nurses in proximity can get a face full of it. (high virus load)
so putting a covering/mask over the patient comes with this as an extra barrier

if its not strained much or only a slightly low blood ox then non-pressurised nasel canula/mouth mask oxygen
..
jumping straight to sedation and ventilation for a person that is sat up talking and not strained breathing. is not a good thing.
..

as for the medications
most of the meds inhibit the virus growth or surpress the immuno response
this might seem good right there in the moment. to keep the patient alive longer and more comfortable.. but the body hasnt actually had a chance for the white blood cells to handle it to learn how to be immune to it.
so giving meds to a non-critical patient can hide symptoms and not allow themo become immune to the virus


so although you might feel better now. you might get sick again if you stop taking the meds(). or might be getting sicker but just not feeling it while on the meds. or you might cath it again in later months
meds also come with side effects. which is why proper doctors, actually weigh up the pro-cons of each med vs the risk potential.
EG no symptoms, no meds.
mild symptoms but not uncomfortable. no meds
its only when it becomes more life critical/severe discomfort/distress that the balance sways in favour of using the meds.
and at dosages that wont do excess harm

there are many many medications that can do many many things. there is no magic pill that will remove the symptoms while boosting your immunity and guarantee no discomfort or side effects.
sorry but no, just no. and before you ask or hint at promoting something you seen on a blog. no

main aim for doctors is just to keep the person breathing long enough for their body to handle it and immunise against it naturally.
increasing the treatment if the person doesnt stay at a stable level, doesnt improve

currently different hospitals are trying different medical cocktails and different single medication trials. to work out the best meds and the best combinations. and also the best times to use them in the best dosages.
but this takes time.(just like making a vaccine does)

so untill the best meds or a vaccine is ready.. the very best option is to avoid people even getting it in the first place for as long as possible so that hospitals can learn and prep as much as they can.

in short its like best practice for installing a new windows operating system.. try to avoid it until you have really researched the features and backdoor capabilities and wait for atleast a couple patches/service packs have been released.

if you worried by doing self isolation that doctors wont have enough patients to use as guineapigs.. dont worry. there are always a few % of the population that are complete idiots that want to rebel against best advice thinking that being a vitamin supplement guineapig will make them immortal. so let them catch it first and be the guinea pigs so the rest of us can wait it out in peace for the best care when its best to offer it.
(i think this topic has shown clearly a few prime specimen idiots who will happily want to mingle with people and catch it to prove a point.. and so they should)

We really need to get negative merits implemented.

in the UK doctors dont get paid per test/treatment. they just get a salary so UK are not afraid to run tests worrying about cost to patient.. an not just going to run useless tests for nonsese, because there is no financial gain.. so doctors in UK do what doctors should do

US by the looks of what you imply do get paid to scan/treat... but strangely an ER doctor didnt do tests/scans thus avoiding a pay bonus(Strange) but went straight to protocol not designed for a comfortable talking patient

so i dont think you can blame the finances. because if he was greedy, and didnt know the problem.he'd run every test possible..

he seemed out of his league in regards to training and experience and just took a guess to go extreme. and it didnt play well with others.

hotwire shows a graph of china
'this the peak feb 5th'

wuhan went into lockdown january 23rd over 2 weeks before.. not weeks after.

because a contagion spreads within 2-3 weeks. a peak will occur 2-3weeks after lockdown
UK is just about hoping to see this happen by next week. hwever the UK didnt do it as strictly as what china did by contact tracing those infected to find out who they may have passed it onto.
UK also had alot of cases of people being silly and not staying at distance. (bulk shopping, teens gathering in parks)
so UK is going to be more of a 3-4week before peak

yes UK should have stopped repatriation flights in january(as US should have)
yes UK/US should have used january feb to build more hospital capacity. then the isolation wont be as bad.

the issue now is. if lockdown is loosened. a new wave will occur again. even on basic math. of just say 1% severity symptom
thats 3million people in america..
america doesnt have 3mill beds to treat 3mill people so many millions will suffer and die. FACT
but trying to keep numbers to hospital capacity.. which will involve many waves of small numbers.
thats whats gotta be done

just sending out 300m americans to just catch it wont be everyone is fine.

You are finally getting the picture, aren't you.

It seems that "good protocol" is something that doctors do when they want money success rather than health success for their patients.

the doctor in question gave ARDS treatment to someone who was sat up and talking.
he didnt even CT scan her.
he comatosed her, intubated her.

another one was in the critical stage of lack of oxygen but had no clue why.
he was not an ICU doctor

he gave pressurised are to someone at mild where he didnt even xray them
he did not follow any good protocol