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legendary
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April 08, 2020, 03:55:52 AM
from what i have gathered by actually doing research of UK handling of corona
each other country may differ, but generally hospital visits are not advised unless your breathing is laboured/strained enough to cause issues doing things like sleep, walk around house

when you have a mild symptom of cough/fever, your told to self isolate under what is known as 'shielding' category
this is to not even go out for exercise or food, and get support from friends/relatives or local council support for your needs in your home

if you get breathing difficulty its advised to go to hospital for any extra oxygen support.
on admission your symptoms are assessed, and you are given an xray and other scans as standard protocol. samples are taken and sent to a lab that will confirm its covid19 and not any of the other strains/flus.
this is again standard protocol now. they especially do this to make sure its not a further new mutation that might pop up in the future so they wnt to catch it early. and also rule out if its the older seasonal flu..
once they know its covid19 specifically. they then have a protocol specific to that

in short. categories are
no symptoms: self isolate - socially distance: allowed to go out for essentials/exercise but dont abuse the freedom stay safe stay at distance

mild symptom: self isolating - shielding: stay home, no shopping, no exercise. stay home and rest

no symptom living with someone mild symptomed: personally do 'no symptom' but also socially distance from person within the house who has it as much as possible. stay in different rooms. leave food at the door and keep distance. clean house methodically

severe symptoms: breathing issue call NHS to ask for advice, expect hospital visit for oxygen support and full tests/diagnoses

critical symptoms: prepare to be sedated and intubated


the UK only had 8000 beds that can support the critical category. which in this situation would not be enough if everyone got it in one go/over a couple months. self isolation/social distancing/shielding is not to cure it or make people immune. its to stop the spread to slow down how many people could need the hospital in one go.
allowing time for the NHS to stock up, train up, prepare.

self isolation is not the end of this.
less than 10% of people mingled and flouted the guidelines. .. imagine if there was no self isolation/guidelines where everyone got it.

stats are showing that if you get to the critical stage of needing to be intubated the risk/recovery rate is far worse with covid than other reasons to be intubated.
legendary
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April 08, 2020, 03:29:35 AM
^ This 5G discussion belongs more here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51245999
It is off topic in this thread.
Please take it there thanks.
legendary
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April 08, 2020, 03:27:08 AM
5G is not heating the air in peoples lungs
ACTUAL DOCTORS doing MANY scans, tests, observations know its not the oxygen. its the lack of oxygen due to lungs filling with fluid, due to the immuno response to a foreign invader, which they test and find out it is a virus

..
a few silly people think that the tests that hospitals are using is a sort of pregnancy test strip .. sorry its not
its actually a lab test using specifically modified settings and specially formulated chemicals to test it.
along with CT scans and other tests and symptom observations.. all come to the conclusion of a diagnoses

5G is not wide spread international. yet there are people widespread contracting corona virus and having their body negatively respond to the virus.

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as for the concerns of 2.4ghz radiowaves. they are not the same kind of waves as a kitchen microwave. if you did not know this. you should research its the infrared part of a kitchen microwave that does the cooking

but as always certain conspiracy trolls wont actually do the research

.. any lets reign this meander back to the topic of corona. not other unrelated nonsense like 5G that has no correlation to corona
legendary
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April 08, 2020, 03:17:37 AM
I love your long posts. As Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 6:11, "The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" https://biblehub.com/niv/ecclesiastes/6-11.htm.
the bible is longer than my posts
The Bible makes sense when you read the various parts in context. Your posts don't make sense any which way.
your post is longer than mine
legendary
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April 08, 2020, 01:42:35 AM
Differant frequencies have different effects.
We know microwave ovens work because oxygen atoms vibrate at 2.4Ghz, friction creates heat.  No-one will sit in it find out if its healty.
We know at 60Ghz oxygen atoms O2 rotate and seperate, consequently starving the body
https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/fixed-wireless-communications-at-60ghz-unique-0001
https://mega.nz/#!vHolRRTa!DDid2zJhtSIxtMJufMCr28Sud7BRTlTXTL5SHOJMi4g
WE know 95Ghz is a weapon.

...Hz, khz, Mgz, Ghz, THz..... (Visible light ~ 500 THz)   The shorter wavelenghts more like akin to a beam than wave.
Enjoy resonance frequencies from 100hz to 6051hz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w

With phased-array antennas they certainly do.  One aspect of 'MIMO'.  That's part of the promise of the wonderful 5G that 'the market is demanding' so that they can get a HD Netflix movie downloaded to their phone in 2 seconds.

Of course to form a beam you need a target.  Don't forget to keep your cell phone with you at all times, people.  When Gates gets his ID2020 tags installed it won't be so important.

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Edit:  The MIMO stuff and beam forming phased array antennas are actually kind of interesting with respect to the 6 foot 'social distancing' conversation.

MIMO is supposed to follow your phone around as an individual device.  That means that specific waveforms could be directed at unique individuals.  I mean technically that is possible.  Not that it's necessarily being done.  Yet.

I'll tell you, though, that if I do start feeling unusual, the first thing I'll do will be to get rid of my phone.  Or more accurately, keep it even farther away from me than I normally do.  I never was a big fan of these devices (even though I worked in the industry) and usually don't have the thing on me or near me.  Most of my interaction with the internet is via wired devices.

sr. member
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April 08, 2020, 01:20:21 AM
Differant frequencies have different effects.
We know microwave ovens work because oxygen atoms vibrate at 2.4Ghz, friction creates heat.  No-one will sit in it find out if its healty.
We know at 60Ghz oxygen atoms O2 rotate and seperate, consequently starving the body
https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/fixed-wireless-communications-at-60ghz-unique-0001
https://mega.nz/#!vHolRRTa!DDid2zJhtSIxtMJufMCr28Sud7BRTlTXTL5SHOJMi4g
WE know 95Ghz is a weapon.

...Hz, khz, Mgz, Ghz, THz..... (Visible light ~ 500 THz)   The shorter wavelenghts more like akin to a beam than wave.
Enjoy resonance frequencies from 100hz to 6051hz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w
legendary
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April 07, 2020, 04:30:07 PM
I agree that this 5G/Coronavirus connection is garbage. IMO it is being used a lot like "flat Earth" is used to discredit ideas that mainstream media refuses to cover. A highly infectious disease that is killing people all over the world is a perfect vector to demonize an idea and make people ignore it all over the globe. The facts just don't line up.

That being said 5G antennas and frequencies are capable of doing a whole host of unbelievable things, most of which are associated with tracking and control grids, but also physical and mental health. The effects of most any disease can be mimicked using this bandwidth of EM radiation, and yes they are capable of producing effects to make people more susceptible to disease. However it seems pretty clear to me, as I already stated, this idea is being used to train people to ignore warnings about 5G for a multitude of other reasons.

5G Has Dual Use As A Weapons System
legendary
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April 07, 2020, 01:10:15 PM
For those who love the WHO banner which Jewtube spams every coronavirus video with, remember who leads the organization:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPjTHyJ0no

Long live Tedros Adhanom.  Willy Gates sure knows how to pick a winner.  Remember that when you roll up your sleeve for his vaccine+ID-tag.

tvbcof.. angry at a guy that was in a group that wanted to overthrow a government..
 tvbcof moves to another topic and tries to subtle tell others to rebel against government

im starting to think maybe its jealousy not anger
after al one guy gets a top job.. tvbcof stays in his basement
i havnt researched tedros much so far.. but tvbcof flip floppy narrative seems more weird so far

so tvbcof. do you want to be a government respectful and responsible human being. or do you want to rebel against government even at harm of others.

come back when you can make up your mind which side you sit

^^ But it's much easier to slander poor tvbcof that prove anything that you say, right?

All you are is a blowhard, right?

On-oh. I need to be careful. I don't want to become a slanderer like frank1. In this case I am not. Why not? Because he proves he is in the way he constantly picks on people at the same time he is careful to not show his reasoning, exactly.

frank1 is honing his methods for being a combination ignoramus and blabber. His "diagnoses" are like a CV test, where medical people check out a tiny chunk of virus RNA, a chunk that could come from any of dozens of viruses, and then pronounce that it is Covid-19. And to cover up what they are doing, they throw in all kinds of research that doesn't have anything to do with what is being said... just like frank1 in almost everything he posts.

Look through any of frank1's posts... any of the longer ones for sure. Isn't this exactly what he is doing? We can all see that he knows a lot of pieces of info. The fact that he displays them in the silly method that he does, shows that he is entirely trolling us. I mean, he can probably talk normal. But he talks like he has a hair lip, just to hide the fact that he is trolling.

Cool
legendary
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April 07, 2020, 12:06:48 PM
For those who love the WHO banner which Jewtube spams every coronavirus video with, remember who leads the organization:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPjTHyJ0no

Long live Tedros Adhanom.  Willy Gates sure knows how to pick a winner.  Remember that when you roll up your sleeve for his vaccine+ID-tag.

tvbcof.. angry at a guy that was in a group that wanted to overthrow a government..
 tvbcof moves to another topic and tries to subtle tell others to rebel against government

im starting to think maybe its jealousy not anger
after al one guy gets a top job.. tvbcof stays in his basement
i havnt researched tedros much so far.. but tvbcof flip floppy narrative seems more weird so far

so tvbcof. do you want to be a government respectful and responsible human being. or do you want to rebel against government even at harm of others.

come back when you can make up your mind which side you sit
legendary
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April 07, 2020, 11:35:28 AM
For those who love the WHO banner which Jewtube spams every coronavirus video with, remember who leads the organization:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPjTHyJ0no

Long live Tedros Adhanom.  Willy Gates sure knows how to pick a winner.  Remember that when you roll up your sleeve for his vaccine+ID-tag.

legendary
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April 07, 2020, 11:23:27 AM
In case someone has not seen David Icke coronavirus video here is bitchute version.
Already got deleted on youtube and vimeo, mirror, download, share.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/H4W7FwBy0Ukh/

youtube-dl    can be used on Linux to download (very slow)

so much fail in the first 10 minutes
1. people are getting sick where there are no 5g masts..
2. december 10th patient zero diagnosed by symptom spotting. flu like. given normal meds went back to work
3. december 11, 12,13,14,15,16,17th didnt get better the meds didnt work. obviously wasnt normal cold/flu
4. december 18th got so bad he was hospitalised. this is what they call a 'zebra' where certain symptoms dont fit normal diagnoses
5. they noted thee newer symptoms..
6. over 3 weeks other patients were coming in with these same pattern of symptoms..
7. sent blood specimens to a lab and tested using both microscope and chemical testing
januarty 2nd results came back that its some NEW virus.
8. patients from not the same origin(weetmarket) started turning up.... alarm was raised


Icke.. wants to make people think that there is no actual lab test or no microscope to actually analyse the virus to tell if its any different.
and that fatal flaw of his understanding is where he primes his BS. by thinking anything could be causing the symptoms so points it in the direction of his latest pet hate. which appears to be 5G

but.. as i said already in very first point.
people are getting sick in places that dont have 5G masts
and i will also add.. many people that do live near 5G are not getting sick.. so there is no correlation

and that ends the debate

as for why youtube is taking it down..
because its nonsense videos causing stupid rumours and causing more people to become stupider by believing the video.. so for the sake of sanity. its easier to just get rid of the nonsense.

people have the right to speak. but not the right to force people to listen. not the right to speak on someone elses property without their consent.

if people want to get angry about something.. and want to show their anti-gov stance.. point it at the lack of funding for healthcare which is causing people to need to isolate to delay the spread just so hospitals have time to prepare for the upcoming storm of patient numbers YET to come.
yep thats right numbers so far are not of 99% getting it and only 0.1% death
they are of 5% getting it and much higher death rate in comparison.. meaning when the other 95% do get it after isolation.. numbers will be bigger.

so aim your anger at governments not funding the healthcare for decades to make the healthcare unprepared
sr. member
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April 07, 2020, 09:47:50 AM
In case someone has not seen David Icke coronavirus video here is bitchute version.
Already got deleted on youtube and vimeo, mirror, download, share.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/H4W7FwBy0Ukh/

youtube-dl    can be used on Linux to download (very slow)

legendary
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April 06, 2020, 05:53:36 PM
Lets keep it on topic here please folks.

"Why Calls For A “National Quarantine” May Be More Rhetorical Than Legal"

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/04/06/why-calls-for-a-national-quarantine-may-be-more-rhetorical-than-legal/
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 01:59:17 PM

Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?

Ask and you shall receive.  Next installment; 10 more:

  https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/
It's almost funny. Panic - no, rational measures against a plague. Panic buying, hamstering - no, sensible precautions (that should have been done years ago in most cases but nonetheless). Islamophobia - no, muslims are actually kidnapping and raping our girls. Antisemitism - no, jews have their own interests and those interests are not ours. Global warming deniers - the weather is fine. And on and on and on.

If a couple of cops rob a bank, that doesn't make all cops to be bank robbers. Everybody knows that. You don't make sense.

Cool
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 01:57:03 PM
I love your long posts. As Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 6:11, "The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" https://biblehub.com/niv/ecclesiastes/6-11.htm.

the bible is longer than my posts

The Bible makes sense when you read the various parts in context. Your posts don't make sense any which way.

Cool
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 01:23:20 PM
china
china is lying.




Someone produced a legible write-up on some of these doctors and scientists.  Enjoy:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

Again, why 12? Why not fifty? Or seven?

Ask and you shall receive.  Next installment; 10 more:

  https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/
It's almost funny. Panic - no, rational measures against a plague. Panic buying, hamstering - no, sensible precautions (that should have been done years ago in most cases but nonetheless). Islamophobia - no, muslims are actually kidnapping and raping our girls. Antisemitism - no, jews have their own interests and those interests are not ours. Global warming deniers - the weather is fine. And on and on and on.
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 11:28:01 AM
I love your long posts. As Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 6:11, "The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" https://biblehub.com/niv/ecclesiastes/6-11.htm.

the bible is longer than my posts
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 11:07:23 AM

post propaganda and ye shal get rebuttal

so dr 10: ................ and theres the funny.. only 9 doctors.. not 10
by the way. that website is not a website for unbiased both sides open opinion. that site is a quote aggregator that grabbed certain quotes from limited amounts of doctors that fit the website owners personal narative he wishes to push

anyway


so we know that 30% asymptomatic now. 50% very mild. 15% severe 5% critical(no support = death group)
again that 5% is not actual death. but to risk of death if they dont get hospitalised

soo. lets just say 1% critical. which UK has 65m.. so lets call it 650k critical

no we know r0 is 2.6 a week
so imagine january 1st 55 people came to the uk as patient zero.. yep im using numbers in your favour here
doing the maths means that by march 11th when isolations started to only 110k would have 'herd immunity' untested before isolation

so Dr1: thinks millions got herd immune before march 11th to outweigh/dilute the 650k critical risk
but that as i just shown is not the case
its due to self isolation that only scales of wanting 20k deaths of ~65k critical is desired because ~40k rolling occupacy per month is capable... definetly not 650k as it would be more like 500k death

so dr 2:
tries to play numbers games. but doesnt realise. that germwards dont need ventilaters and specialised respiratory staff. they just need a consultant offering antibiotics. there are not enough ventilators or ICU beds or ICU trained staff for something so specific. oh and i do love the callus tone of oh well people die let others die too.. true doctors dont want any preventable deaths. sems more interested in being allowed to parties..
..
reality check.. herd immunity will happen.. but WHEN hospitals can actually have capacity to cope with the critical. so keep your party dress locked away for another few months and think of peoples health not your social life
..
callus person 20 dead and she wont care unless 20k dead (facepalm).. think about it 20k need to die before she decides to not go to the pub

so dr 3: makes sense.. but forgets that partygirl number 2 will want to socialise and mingle with everyone she can. so although she asymptomatic/mild in 30-80% case. she can pass it around so she needs to be told to keep away from people
then when it comes to those who suppose to self isolate but instead go to the beach to like girls faces thinking they are doing the world a favour by spreading it.. then they need to be handed more harshly

the point is. before march11th in uk people were told to socially distance. no isolation.. guess what stupid people ignored it. so yea the government had to up the game due to ignorant people

so dr4: ignores all science of r0 and viral load and thinks no one dies and its just a cough and sniffle
(facepalm)
our planet is a victim of hospital facilities ill equiped. it aint a social drama thing
he says no evidence its any worse than the rhinovirus(runny nose)(double facepalm to this moron)

so dr5: doesnt know numbers or reporting methods.. (facepalm) seems to have been watching too many conspiracy websites about fake death certificates. not realising that doctors report  death to one department and a death certificate department on different days. the ARDS (acute respiratory distress) being the big known corona death symptom when tested positive and also shown other known symptoms that rule out panic attack or asthma

so dr 6:yep he cant answer the question of whats different this time.. because he doesnt know the basics of r0. meaning he BLINDLY assumes its just the flu

so dr 7: says doesnt beleive isreal death numbers.. and italy is only 10% of its yearly number last year
well it would be more then 10% if no isolation.. plus.. its only been 2 months not a year. .. more deaths to come
says no deaths in isreal.. 3 weeks later there are deaths..
seems these people dont realise its the start of a lengthy event. its not the end of a previous years event
as for the countries with low numbers.. well low numbers at start all get a clean ICU be .. but as weeks pass new patients are not getting the same quality hospital service .. because.. hospitals cant cope after a certain level..

so dr 8: yes highly unlikely majority of asymptomatic cases are tested. and thats why those people should avoid being close enough to lick someone elses faces..
if governments on january 9th magically hadn hundreds of millions of tests like a pregnancy test style. then counties could monitor things better.. but they cant. so people have to take responsibility to not pass it on. so it slows the chance of getting to the vulnerable
.. yes as it spreads it gets difficult to monitor.. soo.. the solution.. delay the spread

so dr 9: his maths is flawed .. but lets run with it.... 2m assymptomatic which is still only 99% not even getting it in america
in short.. there is still alot of spread to come.. but only when hospitals can handle it
in short we are still in the calm before the storm
oh and he thinks its a 10k a day flatline case load... nope r0 means the number grows
as for his assumption of wuhan.. well he only compared it to flu.. but doesnt realise that it only compares to flu stats WITH ISOLATION and only at the first wave.. he wouldnt be comparing it like for like if there was no isolation and at the end of the year


I love your long posts. As Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 6:11, "The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" https://biblehub.com/niv/ecclesiastes/6-11.htm.

 Cheesy
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 11:05:04 AM
I wonder if he got his Chloroquine stacked in time?

if your taking it without being sick. it can cause you more issues if you did get sick
if your storing it thinking you can reach for it when grasping for air and hoping that you can breath long enough for the meds to kick in and react.. your too late.

if you really want to self medicate to avoid a hospital room.. get a oxygen tank and a machine that can pipe it to your lungs at a safe positive pressure.
then also get some antivirals and other meds for the other stuff..

or stop licking door knobs hoping to get it asap. and wait it out by self isolating and hope better meds come out later
legendary
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April 06, 2020, 10:28:12 AM
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Lets remember he body is mostly water.
Oxygen is absorved by 60 GHz mmwavelength as is and can be used by 5G, damaging cells, the virus.
5G is not only using 60Ghz wavelenght, but is one of the used.
2.4 Ghz as used in microwave oven oscillates the oxygen atoms, so what ever is in it heats up.
https://ourgreaterdestiny.org/2020/02/5g-60-ghz-oxygen-absorption-you-and-coronavirus/
https://blog.iyannis.com/60-ghz-frequencies-absorbed-by-oxygen/

Barrie Trower: The Truth about 5G and Wi-Fi, 3 Feb 2020 Exeter UK
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=D-BqPnGrtks&fbclid

5G can be a weapon installing 60 Ghz technology in a neighborhood is nothing short of insanity, Imagine a depopulist like Bill Gates or some other nefarious foreign power hacks into it.


Well, if it isn't our old friend Tom Wheeler.  I wonder what he's doing there?

  https://crownheights.info/shlichus/391126/american-friends-of-lubavitch-hosts-annual-benefit/

I wonder if he got his Chloroquine stacked in time?

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