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Corruption and sports and now even e-sports have become familiar to each other.

There are several instances where some individuals will sell a match for small amounts of money, as you can see here how a growing team threw away a game in such a bizarre manner that a streamer said "If this match is not fixed, I will eat shit on stream" and it was quite obvious why he said that, because the game was actually fixed and in the manner they lost, was quite egregious.

You can read more about it HERE.

There are other instances as well but another instance of match fixing happening at high level is HERE and for those who don't know LPL is one of the biggest leagues in LOL esports.

In regular sports, match-fixing is often not as obvious because the players doing it are mature and very experienced so there aren't as many obvious cases. But even then some are caught and although no clear evidence, I almost agree on this one HERE exposing Verdasco.

Nothing can be done about it and as a gambler I am not too worried because at times maybe the match is fixed towards my side fortunately Grin

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 04, 2021, 10:52:20 AM

No one in this world will say no to money because we are doing everything to make that money and politics in sports and games are present in every country. So people will skills got rejected due to their colour, religion, etc even in the Olympic selection most of the corrupted nation send ineligible candidate for participating in the world arena.

Money definitely plays a big role in sports, but so does reliability and sinceretity. In today's world everybody has a cell phone with a good camera which makes proofing shady businesses happing in sports much easier. While it can go very fast to accept payments for a certain outcome in a game, the risks of being exposed these days is much higher. And so are the hidden costs. Once there is a video of corruption being published it will never go away, the Internet doesn't forget. So losing your job for a onetime pay check is a very risky.

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No one in this world will say no to money because we are doing everything to make that money and politics in sports and games are present in every country. So people will skills got rejected due to their colour, religion, etc even in the Olympic selection most of the corrupted nation send ineligible candidate for participating in the world arena.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

There's corruption everywhere and more so in the gambling industry, it's all about making money and the easiest and fast way to make money from corrupt people in sports is through, game-fixing what these officials and p[layers can make in a year, they can make in just one game, they will try to find a way to fix games, they even go to the extent of threatening players.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 28, 2021, 08:16:05 PM

That is interesting, I have never seen anything close to that in my country, it seems that maybe fixing matches is something common where you live and it needs to be eradicated, this concerns not only casinos that have huge losses because of it, this also concerns the sport itself, after all we watch sports in order to see individuals or teams going at each other with the best that they have, if this is no longer the case and the matches are fixed then there is no reason to watch sports anymore.

Perhaps, that will not appear in the public, and it is hidden from that, and only a few people know about the fixing matches. But I guess that some sportsmen do that in the dark place without anyone knows.

Yes, that needs to eradicated from his country and also the other country, but that needs all aspects in that country and hard work from all officers, not just the government, the sportsmen, but it is also for the sports organization. So that will not easy and needs a long time before people can see the sports will clean from the corruption.

It depends on your perspective, we known that match fixing exist and probably happens on all leagues, sports and countries, but if a league becomes famous for fixing matches, even if those matches are a minority, then there is no point anymore to watch sports at all, as I said fair competition is the principle in which all sports are based, both opponents have to abide by the same rules and if this is not the case anymore then the reason for holding the competition at all is completely denied.

They will arrange that match fixing will not be shown to the public and will still hide things because they do not want to make the public suspicious and investigate it. They also give money to people inside that circle to shut their mouth, so they don't tell the public, making the secret be saved.

The public itself is not trying to think about corruption because they only want to enjoy the game. Even perhaps, the team will not know if the corruption is around them, which will not impact their performance.

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Quote from: yazher on February 28, 2021, 08:27:14 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on February 28, 2021, 07:45:53 AM

It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.

Most of this is happening in boxing where we don't really know how it works and sometimes it is not obvious. we will just see one day that the fight was fixed by hearing it from the fighters who fought in the ring. you can see the example with this fight and they agreed the fight was indeed fixed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smHkN2ZpFWo

definitely only this sports (BOXING) is the one which very obvious when it comes corrupting people in my opinion .. Because even though it's very clear who's gonna win the match at the end, the people behind the event always decided a unacceptable decision. Which can turn the crowd and fans to become crazy as hell.. Actually even some of the legendary boxers such Manny Pacquiao wherein have been passionated when it comes this sport and always put his best to give fans a good fight.. But what happened? He's also not exempted! Even though it's very clear he won the fight..

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Quote from: maydna on February 28, 2021, 11:35:40 PM

Quote from: Silberman on February 28, 2021, 08:16:05 PM

That is interesting, I have never seen anything close to that in my country, it seems that maybe fixing matches is something common where you live and it needs to be eradicated, this concerns not only casinos that have huge losses because of it, this also concerns the sport itself, after all we watch sports in order to see individuals or teams going at each other with the best that they have, if this is no longer the case and the matches are fixed then there is no reason to watch sports anymore.

Perhaps, that will not appear in the public, and it is hidden from that, and only a few people know about the fixing matches. But I guess that some sportsmen do that in the dark place without anyone knows.

Yes, that needs to eradicated from his country and also the other country, but that needs all aspects in that country and hard work from all officers, not just the government, the sportsmen, but it is also for the sports organization. So that will not easy and needs a long time before people can see the sports will clean from the corruption.

It depends on your perspective, we known that match fixing exist and probably happens on all leagues, sports and countries, but if a league becomes famous for fixing matches, even if those matches are a minority, then there is no point anymore to watch sports at all, as I said fair competition is the principle in which all sports are based, both opponents have to abide by the same rules and if this is not the case anymore then the reason for holding the competition at all is completely denied.

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Quote from: adzino on March 03, 2021, 03:02:56 AM

Match fixing is something the government can't stop. They can provide more strict laws and everything, but it is still going to happen. But you make it sound like it happens almost in every match. It does happen, but not as often as you think. There is nothing you can or the government can do if the whole organization is corrupted. You don't even need the whole organization to be corrupted. One or two unscrupulous person in the organizations are enough to mess up the whole system.

Actually right on what you had said because no matter how strict they would be implementing it out but doesnt mean that they would completely get rid of it.It will surely exist no matter what and do they believe that
those organizations arent aware on those consequences if they get caught? Of course they are fully aware with that.

This is why even others do see that the game was fair but actually there is something behind happening which cant really be tell even if you are really an experienced sports bettor or fan.

Government cant detect out which one is rigged and which one is a normal game.Corruption would be still a global problem in all sorts of ways not only limiting out on sports alone.

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In Italy we have already had the worst scandal of the 21 century named Calciopoli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calciopoli
It went so bad that, for example, Juventus went to Serie B with -9 points! They were lucky because probably Serie C (third italian league) would have been more just.
And look, before Calciopoli, I was a Juventus fan: I watched the next Serie B championship and stop supporting Juventus after that.
I was left like a baby without a toy.

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Quote from: gagux123 on March 01, 2021, 05:44:32 PM

I think it doesn't just happen in your country, I think around the world!!!

Corruption is everywhere, including sports. Some players or referees don't care about selling themselves or things like that, some players only think about themselves and the benefits that this will give.
Unfortunately things happen that way

Eventually, any player who is involved in a sport is looking to earn money and there are a lot of expectations from the family and sometimes when they see an easy opportunity to make some quick money, they just fell for it.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 01, 2021, 06:08:40 PM

Are you telling that India had 20 million professional cricket players till now or there are 20 million players playing matches and if that the latter is true it is a huge number of players and do you have the infrastructure to allocate these players as county matches will not accumulate millions of players and how many county teams are there in India. My guess is that you have the numbers wrong, i know the population i huge but to have 20 million professional players is a huge number.

Cricket is just too popular in India and yes there might not be 20 million players who actually aim to play the sport at the highest level but it's possible that 20 million people are actively following and playing the sport.

Like in some countries soccer is taken very seriously and youth play the sport but doesn't always mean that they are aiming to play for their country or big clubs.

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Quote from: adzino on March 03, 2021, 03:02:56 AM

Match fixing is something the government can't stop. They can provide more strict laws and everything, but it is still going to happen. But you make it sound like it happens almost in every match. It does happen, but not as often as you think. There is nothing you can or the government can do if the whole organization is corrupted. You don't even need the whole organization to be corrupted. One or two unscrupulous person in the organizations are enough to mess up the whole system.

This is true, just a couple of people that's behind the corruption in sports event then it can proceed according to what they've planned. But not all sports are organized by the government, they cannot stop it but the highest or the organization head can put sanctions or at least reduce its proliferation by giving hard punishments to those that will be proven to be involved in match fixing. They can ban those who will be involved and that will scare others who haven't thought of stopping it.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 03, 2021, 01:37:44 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on March 02, 2021, 01:54:15 PM

Speaking of government, they are not going to involve themselves to something that they'll ain't going to benefits, they are just after with the taxes and all those benefits that they'll going to have allowing this business to facilatate within their jusrisdictions. Aside from that, government will not interfere to any dark side of this inustry unless there's complains about it.

Taxes are just not enough for them.
They corrupt it but they still want more.
Control over everything and that includes money in their pockets. Directly. Grin

Just think about it, why would they even spend millions of money for their campaign, advertisements, and people.
They just know they can get it back when they are in position. Putting a stain on everything and sports cannot get away from it.

When it talks about money everything is possible, we can't removed that facts that in real world things happened as money control the most, there's always a right price for doing anything.

Because of greed and hunger with more luxurious benefits, this can't be prevented. There are people who keeps dealing with this, people who are willing t to risk their reputations for the sake of big benefits, they've been bought by a huge amount of money just to continue facilitating everything.

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Match fixing is something the government can't stop. They can provide more strict laws and everything, but it is still going to happen. But you make it sound like it happens almost in every match. It does happen, but not as often as you think. There is nothing you can or the government can do if the whole organization is corrupted. You don't even need the whole organization to be corrupted. One or two unscrupulous person in the organizations are enough to mess up the whole system.

Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

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Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

This comparison makes no sense.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 02, 2021, 01:54:15 PM

Speaking of government, they are not going to involve themselves to something that they'll ain't going to benefits, they are just after with the taxes and all those benefits that they'll going to have allowing this business to facilatate within their jusrisdictions. Aside from that, government will not interfere to any dark side of this inustry unless there's complains about it.

Taxes are just not enough for them.
They corrupt it but they still want more.
Control over everything and that includes money in their pockets. Directly. Grin

Just think about it, why would they even spend millions of money for their campaign, advertisements, and people.
They just know they can get it back when they are in position. Putting a stain on everything and sports cannot get away from it.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on March 02, 2021, 05:00:32 PM

My feeling is that sport is getting more and more corrupted. Although it should be example of high values it often becomes just the opposite. But we have to admit that this is not so strange because more and more money is involved in many professional sports like football, basketball, tennis and others. Sports have become more business than game and that is not good so I think we should get back to basics and that is not going to be easy.
Of course some gamblers play on illicit way on fixed sports matches and similar and sometimes looks that human greed really doesn't have limits.

Yeah! we are talking about the main issue here where some certain games are fixed after they calculated all the possible wins. This is why mostly the bet happens before the match and those organizers already have the result after everyone places their bets. This is what they really doing in the sports industry because they cannot afford to lose and to pay everyone who is involved in the game, there has to be some way to get back how much they spent for it and that's the only way by fixing the game before it started.

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Quote from: Scripture on March 02, 2021, 09:14:33 PM

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 28, 2021, 07:45:53 AM

It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.

Everyone has a price, it doesn't always have to be money, it might be a new gym or anything of that nature which many of our sports men and women signup for as they look at the situation as not losing anything.

And most sports games that are likely to fall prey to this corruption are those from lower leagues as their games don't get much TV coverage as compared to the premiere ones.

As long as there's a money involve, we can't expect the fair game here.
Sports become a haven of money for many investors especially if they fully support a specific team. Most of the club owners are making a lot of money even if they lose the match, corruptions are always be here but I wonder how they are suffering right now especially that live viewers are still limited.

It is right. That is happening not just in sports, but it is also happening in other businesses or fields. Big money will be the reason for those people to corrupt and take some money from the deal.

The club owner can easily say to the public that they are suffering because they never tell their financial conditions to the public. If they share their financial conditions with the public, that will not be a complete report because they still hide something.

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Quote from: roosbit on March 02, 2021, 08:21:03 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on February 28, 2021, 07:45:53 AM

It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.

Everyone has a price, it doesn't always have to be money, it might be a new gym or anything of that nature which many of our sports men and women signup for as they look at the situation as not losing anything.

And most sports games that are likely to fall prey to this corruption are those from lower leagues as their games don't get much TV coverage as compared to the premiere ones.

As long as there's a money involve, we can't expect the fair game here.
Sports become a haven of money for many investors especially if they fully support a specific team. Most of the club owners are making a lot of money even if they lose the match, corruptions are always be here but I wonder how they are suffering right now especially that live viewers are still limited.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 28, 2021, 07:45:53 AM

It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.

Everyone has a price, it doesn't always have to be money, it might be a new gym or anything of that nature which many of our sports men and women signup for as they look at the situation as not losing anything.

And most sports games that are likely to fall prey to this corruption are those from lower leagues as their games don't get much TV coverage as compared to the premiere ones.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto.

Can it really happen?
corruption is very difficult to remove, even in sports and also all parties in the government and other institutions. Corruption is like being a lifestyle. Why did I say so? Because it is like a lifestyle, always developing and will never end. Sad to know this.

Well, related to sports and gambling, some people may also focus on sports and playing bettings from sports. However, will it really far away from corruption?

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 02, 2021, 07:31:54 PM

of course, there are still people that know the importance of dignity and credibility. but there will always be individuals or group that will practice illegal stuffs for the sake of money. it may not be all, but there will always be someone who will corrupt the system one way or another.
if you want to live with clear conscience, it is up to you how you will live your life, whether you are an athlete or the coach.

This doesn't really make any sense unless every single entity in the system becomes clean-hearted and that is almost impossible because the greed of a person can make their hearts go dumb and their minds deaf, so they won't even bear to listen to these things while doing the "bad" thing and hence, this proves that money can buy almost anything.

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