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Quote from: mirakal on February 28, 2021, 08:29:46 AM

Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

That's correct. Here in my country is the same, we have real corruption cases not only in the first country League division, but we also have real corruption cases on minor leagues if they are included in the betting platforms and where you can earn money betting. It is sad but even the football players are mixed in this business and some of them have been arrested in the latest months. We will have more corruption on these sports where you can participate and bet your money, that's clear, we will never see corruption in a beach tennis match, as far as they are not into these bet platforms. It is really sad but it is the reality.

I think in every institution Corruption is indeed happening , maybe in some a little but in others are abusive and rampant.

Government even part of this corruption and they are the one who giving consent on the involved people.

- Expose the corrupt activities.

-Help sports and Gambling become clean again.

those person must be put behind bars and punished more than what they deserve .

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Besides that, I think that can give a chance to players or sportsmen getting into the corruption. Maybe that is happening for a long time ago and we do not know who the players are getting trapped. But as soon as the sportsmen are caught accepting the money from corrupt people, the government will track them and get them into jail. Maybe the officials need to seriously concern about this matter so that the match fixing can reduce.

Players being coerced into participating in something corrupt is not that unheard of but at the same time, it is also rare that players are consensual in participation because higher ups do not want to split the profits any further down the line which is understandable but that is a difficult situation for the corrupt uppers because they do not control the player. Players that are consensual on the other hand are in danger because they are disposable pawns that can't point out who is the head and they will face all the backlash as they are the face of organization/league.

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Not only that it's high risk high reward. It can also be rigged by players even by house edge even with provably fair, systems can always be cheated.

Gamblers are fully aware of this but they are still pushing forward, thinking that once luck permits them it's easiest way to double your fund.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 28, 2021, 08:29:46 AM

Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

Government itself is corrupt so don't exclude them. About soccer games too they are involved in bribing if selling of games to their opponent. If a country's FA is involved in a bribe to win natch, then is the country that is the bribe. Fixing of match is not only for clubs but countries do that.

I don't see bribery existed on my country's governance. What I heard being corrupted was the budget of athletes pertaining to sports events. That's totally devastating for every participants, their funds isn't 100% supplied and worst their compensation allowances differs from other countries. Honor is very important, but we need to think about their families who needs to live through their hard earned money.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on March 07, 2021, 07:51:47 AM

Especially at a low level, players are easier to master and there is corruption. Especially in matches with individual players, without a team. In tennis, a lot has happened with match fixing in the past.

In most sports, this has been said to be happening. But we don't know how it's like happening there. But with the sports commissions or agencies that manage the athletes.
The corruption is starting there, from the support and finances to the actual tournaments, we can speculate that there really are such bad things that do happen. And we don't know if there will be a time that there will be no more corruption from little to big management.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on March 07, 2021, 01:06:02 PM

Quote from: mirakal on February 28, 2021, 08:29:46 AM

Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

Government itself is corrupt so don't exclude them. About soccer games too they are involved in bribing if selling of games to their opponent. If a country's FA is involved in a bribe to win natch, then is the country that is the bribe. Fixing of match is not only for clubs but countries do that.

I think that's a huge accusation, that's cheating in a large scale which I don't think is really happening blatantly. What I only know is the rigging of sports happening only involves few players or officials but not this whole country thing.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on March 07, 2021, 07:51:47 AM

Especially at a low level, players are easier to master and there is corruption. Especially in matches with individual players, without a team. In tennis, a lot has happened with match fixing in the past.

Besides that, I think that can give a chance to players or sportsmen getting into the corruption. Maybe that is happening for a long time ago and we do not know who the players are getting trapped. But as soon as the sportsmen are caught accepting the money from corrupt people, the government will track them and get them into jail. Maybe the officials need to seriously concern about this matter so that the match fixing can reduce.

Maybe it can cut the activities but it will continue to do business, as long as there are players who accepts this easy money deal
then match betting will continue to grow.

The bad side of this issue is there's a chance that officiating bodies are also part of this corruptions, they are deeply involve

and getting huge payouts from the match fixing facilitator, there's no chance or there's only small chance that this activities may
caught only if the official itself allow it for public publicity.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 28, 2021, 08:29:46 AM

Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

Government itself is corrupt so don't exclude them. About soccer games too they are involved in bribing if selling of games to their opponent. If a country's FA is involved in a bribe to win natch, then is the country that is the bribe. Fixing of match is not only for clubs but countries do that.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 06:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

As people who watch the games, we are kind of used to this now, it is still nice and cool to watch the games, I do not feel like teams who have a chance to win the league would sell any games, and if they do that must mean they already guaranteed or nearly guaranteed the games, which is why watching the top teams is a lot better, also there are some at the bottom of the table but since they are bottom of the table it is rarely any chance they could win anyway so they are null point.

Teams that are at the midtable who knows that they will not go to European cups or anything, so have no chance for any higher position, but good enough that they will not relegate are the real trouble, they probably sell many of their games because they can afford to lose points and still be decent. I feel like referees play a big role as well, especially in NBA for example because I have seen horrible officiating there more than anywhere else.

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Quote from: madnessteat on March 07, 2021, 08:46:05 AM

I have a negative attitude towards corruption because it makes the gap between the rich and the poor bigger and bigger. I do not remember who said this, but I remember this phrase very well: " Almost every state has corruption and if there is no corruption then it makes no sense to live and develop in this state. "

I agree if you said that every state has corruption. But if because there is no corruption then it makes no sense to live and develop in the state, that's so weird phrase. Corruption makes every people in the state can't get the same chance to develop, someone who is lucky because was born in a rich family and has the ability to do corruption certainly has a bigger chance to live and develop in the state than a poor guy. So, Corruption is only the biggest obstacle in the state for solving every problem that happens in society.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on March 07, 2021, 03:54:32 AM

The sad fact that corruption has become a part of human life, this all started from uncontrollable greed. There are very many cases of corruption
occurring in the world of sports in various countries around the world. Moreover, sports gambling can be a source of income for some corruptors.
By adjusting the referee's decision or even paying some athletes in order to fix the result of the match. It is annoying to know that corruptors have
damaged sportsmanship in the world of sports. The crime of corruptors must be given the heaviest punishment.

I have a negative attitude towards corruption because it makes the gap between the rich and the poor bigger and bigger. I do not remember who said this, but I remember this phrase very well: " Almost every state has corruption and if there is no corruption then it makes no sense to live and develop in this state. "

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Quote from: paxmao on March 07, 2021, 07:53:50 AM

There are some countries and some sports in which you can give corruption and rigging for granted. For example, boxing during 90's in the USA was clearly a politics questions. The sums involved were so high and it is so easy to make a loose look real that it is kind of inevitable. This of course aligned with the massive control of a few hands.

I heard about the reputation of boxing, and some said that boxing is the most corrupt in all sports, especially in the early days when there are limited access on news and few cameras to review the action.

Quote from: paxmao on March 07, 2021, 07:53:50 AM

Other sports are more difficult to rig, because there are more players involved, it is more difficult to fake and the power is more distributed.

In the game of basketball it's easy to rig if the management is involve as they can just order the referee to do the job.

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There are some countries and some sports in which you can give corruption and rigging for granted. For example, boxing during 90's in the USA was clearly a politics questions. The sums involved were so high and it is so easy to make a loose look real that it is kind of inevitable. This of course aligned with the massive control of a few hands.

Other sports are more difficult to rig, because there are more players involved, it is more difficult to fake and the power is more distributed.

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Especially at a low level, players are easier to master and there is corruption. Especially in matches with individual players, without a team. In tennis, a lot has happened with match fixing in the past.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 28, 2021, 08:29:46 AM

Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

That's correct. Here in my country is the same, we have real corruption cases not only in the first country League division, but we also have real corruption cases on minor leagues if they are included in the betting platforms and where you can earn money betting. It is sad but even the football players are mixed in this business and some of them have been arrested in the latest months. We will have more corruption on these sports where you can participate and bet your money, that's clear, we will never see corruption in a beach tennis match, as far as they are not into these bet platforms. It is really sad but it is the reality.

If the corruption is too obvious, I guess the government should look into that, it cannot be that way as it will destroy the sports the fans love. That's why gambling is illegal in some countries because they know with gambling, sports can be influence and rigging or game fixing will come in.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 28, 2021, 08:29:46 AM

Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

That's correct. Here in my country is the same, we have real corruption cases not only in the first country League division, but we also have real corruption cases on minor leagues if they are included in the betting platforms and where you can earn money betting. It is sad but even the football players are mixed in this business and some of them have been arrested in the latest months. We will have more corruption on these sports where you can participate and bet your money, that's clear, we will never see corruption in a beach tennis match, as far as they are not into these bet platforms. It is really sad but it is the reality.

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Well generally they say that they will eliminate corruption but mostly in the government but not in sports.
I think sports corruption in your country is sever since it's been discussed in the election campaign and one of the things to consider solving.
Well corruption is everywhere and no surprise that even in sports there's a corruption.

The fact that removing corruption from sports is an election issue means the country takes the spirit and goal of sports seriously, which many countries doesn't have such system. I guess, these are real issues, sports, development, income, education, on which a country should look into. Corruption is indeed everywhere but so does its remedy. Just rising the pay check of the sportsmen can reduce such corruption to a lot of level.

It is hard to removing corruption which already rooted in the country, and that needs time to have a clean government and in many aspects. We can not deny that corruption will continue to happen in that aspect, but we have a chance to limit their access by having clean officers. Rising the sportsmen's paycheck can be a solution, but do not forget that even if they have a high paycheck, that will not guarantee they will not corrupt because that will be related to the sportsmen and other people mentality.

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on March 06, 2021, 02:09:52 AM

Well generally they say that they will eliminate corruption but mostly in the government but not in sports.
I think sports corruption in your country is sever since it's been discussed in the election campaign and one of the things to consider solving.
Well corruption is everywhere and no surprise that even in sports there's a corruption.

The fact that removing corruption from sports is an election issue means the country takes the spirit and goal of sports seriously, which many countries doesn't have such system. I guess, these are real issues, sports, development, income, education, on which a country should look into. Corruption is indeed everywhere but so does its remedy. Just rising the pay check of the sportsmen can reduce such corruption to a lot of level.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on March 07, 2021, 03:54:32 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on March 07, 2021, 01:48:45 AM

Corruption has invaded all spheres of our life and sports is no exception because a lot of money is made in this area. The saddest thing is that if an athlete refuses to cooperate with his superiors according to his ideological principles, he will simply be replaced by another and his career will be ruined. So I'm not surprised that some athlete is advertising a shady casino.

The sad fact that corruption has become a part of human life, this all started from uncontrollable greed. There are very many cases of corruption
occurring in the world of sports in various countries around the world. Moreover, sports gambling can be a source of income for some corruptors.
By adjusting the referee's decision or even paying some athletes in order to fix the result of the match. It is annoying to know that corruptors have
damaged sportsmanship in the world of sports. The crime of corruptors must be given the heaviest punishment.

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I agree, people are looking for ways to make a profit. And if they can get rich quickly they tend to do illegal things. In my opinion there should be stronger laws against corruption. There are probably aot of cases that never get reported of become public. Only the really big cases that are being prosecuted are made public. It would be interesting to know how much money the ordinary gambler lost to corruption. I mean even the Romans 2000 years ago had a problem with corruption.

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Quote from: madnessteat on March 07, 2021, 01:48:45 AM

Corruption has invaded all spheres of our life and sports is no exception because a lot of money is made in this area. The saddest thing is that if an athlete refuses to cooperate with his superiors according to his ideological principles, he will simply be replaced by another and his career will be ruined. So I'm not surprised that some athlete is advertising a shady casino.

The sad fact that corruption has become a part of human life, this all started from uncontrollable greed. There are very many cases of corruption
occurring in the world of sports in various countries around the world. Moreover, sports gambling can be a source of income for some corruptors.
By adjusting the referee's decision or even paying some athletes in order to fix the result of the match. It is annoying to know that corruptors have
damaged sportsmanship in the world of sports. The crime of corruptors must be given the heaviest punishment.

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