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Quote from: Japinat on March 01, 2021, 05:33:28 PM

Quote from: seleme on March 01, 2021, 05:27:39 PM

Well, it is not always like that. There are plenty of sportsmen who ready to rig the match for getting more money and they will happy to retire with a huge sum of cash. The true and strong sportsmen have no choice if the whole team has agreed to fix the match result, maybe a boycott will work but it is highly unlikely. Bribery facts and corruption kills the passion and true meaning. This is how bookies get rich every year and they grow the business.

I guess it's not happening, there's no way the whole team will rig the game for them, that's a complete crime and they know the consequences of that action. It's betraying the fans and the entire sports will be affected if it will be discovered which sure has a high chance since it's the whole team and one could leak that information. AFAIK, in a team, there's only one player who like the rig a game, or in most cases its the official that do the rigging like in basketball the referees can do it.

Yeah right, there are players who can deal with that and officials who are controlling the game, but in the case of entire teams it's going to be a big problem, fans dissapointment will rig everything, and if ever that the management unaware with this and learn about the issue for sure the consequences is reallt big,

There are still players who will not do this stuff, they are true to what they've love, it's tough to generalized but for
sure there are players nd officiating individuals that working behind this kind of business.

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Now more and more people are greedy, therefore corruption occurs everywhere, in almost all countries. And corruptors are very detrimental
to many people, many people even think that corruptors are more dangerous than murderers. Because one country becomes the victim of
a corruptor, therefore several countries are very serious about dealing with this problem of corruption. There are even some countries that
provide death sentences for corruptors. Same thing with corruption in the world of sports, mostly because sports gambling is very profitable.
Therefore, there are often match-fixing done by some influential people in the world of sports. Indeed, initially corruption occurs because humans
cannot control their greed, so only think about your own interests, without looking at the interests of others. Let's all say no to corruption.

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Quote from: harizen on March 01, 2021, 05:15:13 PM

Quote from: gagux123 on March 01, 2021, 04:44:32 PM

Some players or referees don't care about selling themselves or things like that, some players only think about themselves and the benefits that this will give.

I doubt. Players worked their way up and it's a hard path so I doubt they will participate in this "at several cases".

Players aren't that dumb to throw away their career easily. I think that fraud involves people from officiating and not on the players. Leagues also are very careful not to throw their reputation too as the reason why they are being profitable is because of the people that support them.

Should we discuss the political side too? lol

I understand, I respect your opinion @harizen and I agree with you, professional players have worked hard to get where they are.

I may have expressed myself badly, but it is some players / teams that are willing to do that.

For example, in a soccer game, national championship, last round, if the team that is in 2nd place wins or draws the game it becomes 1st place and wins the championship.
If, for example, this team that is in 2nd place plays against a team that is in the last places, and that team has few resources / money, you think that if the team that is in 2nd offers a certain amount of money to buy the game, this team that is in the last positions will not sell? Basically he has nothing to lose.

But of course this is just an example, and things like that can happen in any game in any sport.

Well, in politics my country is a lost case, literally lol

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Quote from: seleme on March 01, 2021, 05:27:39 PM

Well, it is not always like that. There are plenty of sportsmen who ready to rig the match for getting more money and they will happy to retire with a huge sum of cash. The true and strong sportsmen have no choice if the whole team has agreed to fix the match result, maybe a boycott will work but it is highly unlikely. Bribery facts and corruption kills the passion and true meaning. This is how bookies get rich every year and they grow the business.

I guess it's not happening, there's no way the whole team will rig the game for them, that's a complete crime and they know the consequences of that action. It's betraying the fans and the entire sports will be affected if it will be discovered which sure has a high chance since it's the whole team and one could leak that information. AFAIK, in a team, there's only one player who like the rig a game, or in most cases its the official that do the rigging like in basketball the referees can do it.

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Well, it is not always like that. There are plenty of sportsmen who ready to rig the match for getting more money and they will happy to retire with a huge sum of cash. The true and strong sportsmen have no choice if the whole team has agreed to fix the match result, maybe a boycott will work but it is highly unlikely. Bribery facts and corruption kills the passion and true meaning. This is how bookies get rich every year and they grow the business.
It is not always like that but the rigged matches have been sold to some mafia groups before the price has been settled. The passion and other sports-related stuff is second-degree for these guys, unfortunately.

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Quote from: gagux123 on March 01, 2021, 04:44:32 PM

Some players or referees don't care about selling themselves or things like that, some players only think about themselves and the benefits that this will give.

I doubt. Players worked their way up and it's a hard path so I doubt they will participate in this "at several cases".

Players aren't that dumb to throw away their career easily. I think that fraud involves people from officiating and not on the players. Leagues also are very careful not to throw their reputation too as the reason why they are being profitable is because of the people that support them.

Should we discuss the political side too? lol

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Quote from: Heisenberg_Hunter on March 01, 2021, 03:34:36 PM

In a country like India which has a 1.3 billion population, corruption in sports like cricket has risen to extremes. Here almost 20-50 million Indians play cricket where atleast 10-20 million play cricket professionally.

Are you telling that India had 20 million professional cricket players till now or there are 20 million players playing matches and if that the latter is true it is a huge number of players and do you have the infrastructure to allocate these players as county matches will not accumulate millions of players and how many county teams are there in India. My guess is that you have the numbers wrong, i know the population i huge but to have 20 million professional players is a huge number.

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I think it doesn't just happen in your country, I think around the world!!!

Corruption is everywhere, including sports. Some players or referees don't care about selling themselves or things like that, some players only think about themselves and the benefits that this will give.
Unfortunately things happen that way

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In a country like India which has a 1.3 billion population, corruption in sports like cricket has risen to extremes. Here almost 20-50 million Indians play cricket where atleast 10-20 million play cricket professionally. To succeed in the game of cricket in India and if you are hailing from a popular city you need to bribe tremendously to play the matches and prove yourself that you are worthy enough to succeed. But once you get into the national level, you get paid a huge sum of money per match which would be equivalent to the life saving of a normal middle class employee.

In the end, the money you spent bribing individuals would get back to you if you prove what you are capable of by entering the nationals. Gambling is another form where you get paid to lose a match and many have done that globally. Some prominent players would be caught for the act while others never. Here for each ad, cricketers get paid millions which could feed atleast 500 families per month. The country along with it's citizens are doomed and there aren't really any ways to move forward!

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 01, 2021, 09:31:51 AM

Quote from: michellee on March 01, 2021, 07:55:23 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on March 01, 2021, 06:16:28 AM

Politician will promise Earth , Moon and Sun just to get our Vote so why believe those stupid words?

Do you still believe in Their promises ? lol listening in the campaign sorties and rallies with the sugar coated words of Politicians is irritating for me .

Thats why when elections season comes ? i prefer not to watch news in regards to them lol.

Unfortunately, many people still believe that, especially if that candidate can convince many people that they have a better concept after being elected. Maybe we do not believe them, but people will try to search for the right people and vote for them. Unfortunately, they pick the wrong candidates in the election voting. But the candidate itself can bribe the people to vote for them to win the election.

The fact that a certain candidate is telling people to solve the problem on sports fixing, I'm confuse a bit and like to ask, is that a national issue that majority of the people are interested? I guess it's not, so why would they tackle that? I'm sure there are bigger problems to be prioritize than game fixing problem.

Even with the lightest issue then it is just right to be tackled on because it do connects out with some issues of corruption and bribe then that what really counts.
I agree into those words above about sugar-coated promises made by those politicians on election times where people do really ending up on choosing the wrong ones.
Well, there's no perfect government though and tackling out these kind of issues are just pretty normal and in talks about corruptions then it
always been part of the system that should really be resolved it out but as long there are people whom are beyond the curtains then it not possible to get rid of it.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 01, 2021, 09:31:51 AM

Quote from: michellee on March 01, 2021, 07:55:23 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on March 01, 2021, 06:16:28 AM

Politician will promise Earth , Moon and Sun just to get our Vote so why believe those stupid words?

Do you still believe in Their promises ? lol listening in the campaign sorties and rallies with the sugar coated words of Politicians is irritating for me .

Thats why when elections season comes ? i prefer not to watch news in regards to them lol.

Unfortunately, many people still believe that, especially if that candidate can convince many people that they have a better concept after being elected. Maybe we do not believe them, but people will try to search for the right people and vote for them. Unfortunately, they pick the wrong candidates in the election voting. But the candidate itself can bribe the people to vote for them to win the election.

The fact that a certain candidate is telling people to solve the problem on sports fixing, I'm confuse a bit and like to ask, is that a national issue that majority of the people are interested? I guess it's not, so why would they tackle that? I'm sure there are bigger problems to be prioritize than game fixing problem.

In my view it is a big problem, because certain games will be watched as a nation. This means the entire nation watch the match, for example I'll try to putforth with cricket match between India and Pakistan. The whole world will watch it, so when something is corrupt and a team wins instead of the other it hurts the entire nation's feeling. So, corruption need to be abolished from sports.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 05:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

I guess by abolishing corruption in sports they mean to end the violation of good laid down rules or create new ones to help keep sports safe, fair, healthy etc. Bribery is actually part of corruption that can prevent the development of sports in the right direction.

In regards to bolded, love for money at the detriment of others people and society

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Quote from: michellee on March 01, 2021, 07:55:23 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on March 01, 2021, 06:16:28 AM

Politician will promise Earth , Moon and Sun just to get our Vote so why believe those stupid words?

Do you still believe in Their promises ? lol listening in the campaign sorties and rallies with the sugar coated words of Politicians is irritating for me .

Thats why when elections season comes ? i prefer not to watch news in regards to them lol.

Unfortunately, many people still believe that, especially if that candidate can convince many people that they have a better concept after being elected. Maybe we do not believe them, but people will try to search for the right people and vote for them. Unfortunately, they pick the wrong candidates in the election voting. But the candidate itself can bribe the people to vote for them to win the election.

The fact that a certain candidate is telling people to solve the problem on sports fixing, I'm confuse a bit and like to ask, is that a national issue that majority of the people are interested? I guess it's not, so why would they tackle that? I'm sure there are bigger problems to be prioritize than game fixing problem.

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every government? but how many government does a country have . it could be the officials that you mean but thats annoying if how many times a candidate can promise it and still no one does it for real .
on what country you are living op but you can make it a secret to protect your countries dignity . that is not common because there must be one government official that can make thier promises come true . in game matches not all team can recieve huge money if they loose thats why they recieve money from fixed matches but if they wont recieve this money i dont think poor families will benefit from that

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on March 01, 2021, 06:16:28 AM

Politician will promise Earth , Moon and Sun just to get our Vote so why believe those stupid words?

Do you still believe in Their promises ? lol listening in the campaign sorties and rallies with the sugar coated words of Politicians is irritating for me .

Thats why when elections season comes ? i prefer not to watch news in regards to them lol.

Unfortunately, many people still believe that, especially if that candidate can convince many people that they have a better concept after being elected. Maybe we do not believe them, but people will try to search for the right people and vote for them. Unfortunately, they pick the wrong candidates in the election voting. But the candidate itself can bribe the people to vote for them to win the election.

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Quote from: hahay on March 01, 2021, 05:33:42 AM

Money can always change anything, so it's no wonder that a sportsman or person who has a position cannot control his greed, so that anyone will definitely get involved with hot money because it is something that is very likely to happen to anyone. The election campaign promise is like just something to find appeal to the wider community, even though we don't know what will happen next. Therefore, I personally don't always heed that promise because in the present and next life with whoever the leader is, we need to work to earn money and always be careful to carry out any activities to avoid fraud or something like that.

It is really hard to stop that corruption and that gambling anomaly, a government will give all those false help and promises just to get your vote because they knew that these kind of topic are the most favorite thing of all people in their country, but it is really sad that there are some corruption is sports that a public figure are involved that's why some of our athletes in my country want to be part of other country's roster when you ask them what are your plans and dreams they will say " I want to be in NBA" because their talent is not being seen in here.

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Quote from: Viscore on March 01, 2021, 06:37:13 AM

The thing is, if a country is one of the most corrupt in the world, their officials are also corrupt, so at the end of the day, its just all about money.

You're right!

Where money is involved... certainly, there has corruption.
Sport should be something that brings you pleasure, entertainment. But it started to be "distorted" at the moment the man saw the chance to make money with it.
Well, we use the sport ourselves to make money on the gambling sites, right!?

For this reason, nothing replaces "pelada" (football between friends on weekends here in Brazil) where the only goal is to have fun (but covid ruined that too)... this is a real sport.

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Quote from: Viscore on March 01, 2021, 06:37:13 AM

I have to agree, we know that what politicians said are not always true especially during campaign period, they will always say those powerful words that will attract people so we will vote for them, after the election, they'll start doing their thing.

actually i agreed also and not just sometimes but most of the time or the words they give us when election campaign days , only few comes true .

this is why i only listen sometimes and give my trust to the candidates that i made a research deeply.

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The thing is, if a country is one of the most corrupt in the world, their officials are also corrupt, so at the end of the day, its just all about money.

Money can change everything mate, from good person to bad but not bad to good lol.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 05:31:11 AM

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

How did you know it's happening? Are they caught and convicted for rigging games in their favor?

I mean corruption happens in sports but it's not that rampant as we think since only few are proven rigging games and that will put them into serious trouble. I believe this is just only an speculation, but it's useful in sports betting knowing things are happening, it means we are not ignorant.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on March 01, 2021, 06:16:28 AM

Politician will promise Earth , Moon and Sun just to get our Vote so why believe those stupid words?

Do you still believe in Their promises ? lol listening in the campaign sorties and rallies with the sugar coated words of Politicians is irritating for me .

Thats why when elections season comes ? i prefer not to watch news in regards to them lol.

I have to agree, we know that what politicians said are not always true especially during campaign period, they will always say those powerful words that will attract people so we will vote for them, after the election, they'll start doing their thing.

The thing is, if a country is one of the most corrupt in the world, their officials are also corrupt, so at the end of the day, its just all about money.

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