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March 05, 2021, 09:49:20 AM
Cameras won't help a lot if the intention is really to rig the games, we will only know if we can read the mind of the players. In sports, point shaving is very popular and it's not easy to detect who are doing this among the players.
You are right, let alone there are cameras and even the police watching directly if it is a human being who has no brains, corruption will still occur.  Sport and corruption seem very friendly, and this is happening in my country.  Even this is like a devilish vortex because there are many talented people in my country drowning because of the dark corruption in the world of sports.
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March 05, 2021, 09:44:38 AM
In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.
This happens more frequently and on a larger scale than we might even think. Someone who follows cricket and selections very closely, I have seen this happen countless times where a good and performing player is not given enough chances while the son of a former player or friend of the captain is being selected despite poor results and performances.

It's not worth taking names but you can see it in almost every sport. In sports like tennis it's less evident because there is certainly no selection process I believe and you perform on tour matches and get points to play at the higher levels.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.
That's because everyone wants more money, even the richest man on earth wants to earn more despite knowing that if even he throws away his money he can't actually spend it. There are players who will never let the integrity of the sports let down but there are some for whom money is the only reason they are even playing the sport.

I think athletes who love their sport are less likely to tank matches as compared to athletes who aren't into the sports as much as they are into making money.
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March 05, 2021, 08:37:42 AM
You're right but the question is, is it getting better or worse because we know the problem exists for centuries. I feel like we see much less of it than we did in the 70s or 80s. It's easy to test competitors for drugs and it's not like you can throw a match easily with all the cameras watching you from different angles. Digital banking also makes it harder to hide some sudden changes in income.

Actually in the modern game it's easier to test but it's also getting more complicated for athletes to watch their diets now. How many cases in the past have we had including for greats like Messi. Taking some herbal tea even makes it possible to somehow take a banned substance.

Now you can't throw matches easily on the big stage but that makes it all the more easy for corruption to inch into smaller stages where there aren't a thousand different cameras:)

Cameras won't help a lot if the intention is really to rig the games, we will only know if we can read the mind of the players. In sports, point shaving is very popular and it's not easy to detect who are doing this among the players.
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March 05, 2021, 06:54:02 AM
You're right but the question is, is it getting better or worse because we know the problem exists for centuries. I feel like we see much less of it than we did in the 70s or 80s. It's easy to test competitors for drugs and it's not like you can throw a match easily with all the cameras watching you from different angles. Digital banking also makes it harder to hide some sudden changes in income.

Actually in the modern game it's easier to test but it's also getting more complicated for athletes to watch their diets now. How many cases in the past have we had including for greats like Messi. Taking some herbal tea even makes it possible to somehow take a banned substance.

Now you can't throw matches easily on the big stage but that makes it all the more easy for corruption to inch into smaller stages where there aren't a thousand different cameras:)
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March 05, 2021, 05:21:28 AM


Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

The one taking to fix the games are those weak players who have uncertainty on their future and income in the sports they are in, they want big and fast money because there is no uncertainty, on their future, these kinds of players are easy prey to corrupt gamblers who can easily bribe their target.
There's big money involve on this that's why many players or officials are tied up with this activities and also the one who do will not care if there activities are illegal since if there's a big money will possibly accumulated well they will grab it. and I disagree that they are weak since I think they are smart since imagine how big they can earn with that and also they manage to hide for so long their activities without bettors noticing it.
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March 05, 2021, 03:25:57 AM
Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

The one taking to fix the games are those weak players who have uncertainty on their future and income in the sports they are in, they want big and fast money because there is no uncertainty, on their future, these kinds of players are easy prey to corrupt gamblers who can easily bribe their target.

We don't know their reason to do that thing, but greediness will be the things we might know. But the famous player can become greedy, especially if they get offers a lot of money and some expensive product. If that is related to money, I think many people will be tempted by money, and they will not think twice to deny it because it can change their lives for the better. Corruption and sports will still happen, but we don't know how it can happen because they will hide their activity.
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March 05, 2021, 01:13:42 AM


Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

The one taking to fix the games are those weak players who have uncertainty on their future and income in the sports they are in, they want big and fast money because there is no uncertainty, on their future, these kinds of players are easy prey to corrupt gamblers who can easily bribe their target.
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March 04, 2021, 11:32:39 PM
I think it doesn't just happen in your country, I think around the world!!!

Corruption is everywhere, including sports. Some players or referees don't care about selling themselves or things like that, some players only think about themselves and the benefits that this will give.
Unfortunately things happen that way
The reality that we should really need get to used to because this is how thing works on this world and everything cant really be perfect.This is a global problem

because people do always love on earning money in all means even its including on risking up their own reputation.It doesn't matter if it hurts their reputation,

they do always focus on how to make money and how it would benefit them without minding on what would be the effects or consequences once get caught.
Exactly @Lanatsa, I agree with you. Unfortunately sometimes money corrupts the person, no matter who he is, player, politician, businessmen and others.
Please, I'm not saying that ALL people are corrupt, but maybe, they can be
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March 04, 2021, 08:06:04 PM
Any type of sports can be easily corrupted, some players are easily tempted to this bad activity taking it as their side income. The only reason why they get involve into this is greed, because they are not contented with their payout. Players doing this are putting their career on danger and once they’re caught they might lose their profession.

You're right but the question is, is it getting better or worse because we know the problem exists for centuries. I feel like we see much less of it than we did in the 70s or 80s. It's easy to test competitors for drugs and it's not like you can throw a match easily with all the cameras watching you from different angles. Digital banking also makes it harder to hide some sudden changes in income.
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March 04, 2021, 06:32:23 PM
In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.
Most sports athletes is in poverty, that why they would grab certain chance to earn bigger money instead of honor. This is really happening in reality, I don't say it's general thing on them but the system of money making goes like that. We can't stop corruption because it's been practiced for so long and their lives change due to greediness.
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March 04, 2021, 05:15:00 PM
It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.
this could be very possible, i watch a lot of football and i gamble on it, i have seen a lot of suspicious plays, like players missing some really easy goals and stuff like that, fixing matches can be something that happens a lot, a lot of gamblers are a victim of that and they don't even know it.

They'll find it out after losing their bets, gamblers who are betting before the game start are mostly victims, as they are not aware on what will happened along the way.

Underdogs are being used by match fixers, it's an easy money pocketing since most of the time bettors relied with their research, thinking that the team or players that they are betting with have a much higher chance to win the game, unknowingly that they've been trick and the game was settled behind before the match even started. It's really happening even we can't provide any evidence but understanding the game you'll see the big difference with teams who are playing seriously.
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March 04, 2021, 05:12:41 PM
Any type of sports can be easily corrupted, some players are easily tempted to this bad activity taking it as their side income. The only reason why they get involve into this is greed, because they are not contented with their payout. Players doing this are putting their career on danger and once they’re caught they might lose their profession.
That's easy to expect since by nature humans are greedy.

With the ease to gamble in sports, all these things are possible as it's easy money when you know what game are going to be rig since it gives almost 100% guarantee that you'll win, but of course those with influence are the ones usually doing this and players which are risking to commit a crime for the sake of making easy money.
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March 04, 2021, 05:09:23 PM
Any type of sports can be easily corrupted, some players are easily tempted to this bad activity taking it as their side income. The only reason why they get involve into this is greed, because they are not contented with their payout. Players doing this are putting their career on danger and once they’re caught they might lose their profession.
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March 04, 2021, 05:07:08 PM
It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.
this could be very possible, i watch a lot of football and i gamble on it, i have seen a lot of suspicious plays, like players missing some really easy goals and stuff like that, fixing matches can be something that happens a lot, a lot of gamblers are a victim of that and they don't even know it.
Well, not even in football, even though in basketball you can see obvious manipulations per matches just to have further matches in a series game.
To gain more money on each game they need to do this because sportsmen need the money and that is why they are on that career even though they know how risky it is just because of money. In order to extend the series game, it can be manipulated the result to have more audience, --more audience will make more money for them, so the bettors here were always fooled on the trap if there is manipulation on each game knowing that only sportsmen will have more benefits. Indeed, corruption is everywhere, not only in politics, in a business, and also in sports gambling industry.
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March 04, 2021, 04:49:39 PM
It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.
this could be very possible, i watch a lot of football and i gamble on it, i have seen a lot of suspicious plays, like players missing some really easy goals and stuff like that, fixing matches can be something that happens a lot, a lot of gamblers are a victim of that and they don't even know it.
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March 04, 2021, 04:23:40 PM
In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

This reminded me of an incident which happened several years ago in e-sports where in CSGO, the teams involved resulted into a match fixing.

Thousands of players loss their bets on the stronger team as most players expected them to win. When the underdog won the match, the game was investigated due to a poor concealment done by the stronger team. It was then decided that the game involved match fixing and the players involved were ban in competitive gaming in the CSGO scene.

Match fixing can be brutal to the bettors. Your only remedy against such is when the officials themselves discover the fixing but it can be definitely difficult to prove.
Proving out matches which are fixed are really hard to spot on or able to know if its happening unless if there are people whom do make out leaks then they would probably
able to testify it out specially if this one involves in e-sports where everyone could really have that presumption that it might really be just a bad day for the team on
where they had been beaten out by low tier teams.Of course, no one would really be anticipating for high chances of beat up but upsets do legitimately happen
but only on rare case scenario and not really on a common day.Match fixing is always been there but its really hard to recognize it.
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March 04, 2021, 03:08:45 PM
In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

This reminded me of an incident which happened several years ago in e-sports where in CSGO, the teams involved resulted into a match fixing.

Thousands of players loss their bets on the stronger team as most players expected them to win. When the underdog won the match, the game was investigated due to a poor concealment done by the stronger team. It was then decided that the game involved match fixing and the players involved were ban in competitive gaming in the CSGO scene.

Match fixing can be brutal to the bettors. Your only remedy against such is when the officials themselves discover the fixing but it can be definitely difficult to prove.
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March 04, 2021, 01:13:53 PM
Nothing can be done about it and as a gambler I am not too worried because at times maybe the match is fixed towards my side fortunately Grin.
We cannot say you have not been honest here! Grin
On the other hand, when the match fixing is on the side of your bet trust me that is very nasty.
Once I bet on an Italian Serie C game (third league) and after more than one year it was discovered that it was a fixed game.
That was the only game I missed in a huge 10 games betslip and that costed me more than €500!
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March 04, 2021, 11:27:54 AM
Corruption and sports and now even e-sports have become familiar to each other.

There are several instances where some individuals will sell a match for small amounts of money, as you can see here how a growing team threw away a game in such a bizarre manner that a streamer said "If this match is not fixed, I will eat shit on stream" and it was quite obvious why he said that, because the game was actually fixed and in the manner they lost, was quite egregious.

You can read more about it HERE.

There are other instances as well but another instance of match fixing happening at high level is HERE and for those who don't know LPL is one of the biggest leagues in LOL esports.

In regular sports, match-fixing is often not as obvious because the players doing it are mature and very experienced so there aren't as many obvious cases. But even then some are caught and although no clear evidence, I almost agree on this one HERE exposing Verdasco.

Nothing can be done about it and as a gambler I am not too worried because at times maybe the match is fixed towards my side fortunately Grin.


For real! I like that statement so I bolded it, who knows, as gambler we do hope for luck as even we do understand the game this kind of illegal activities behind each games are unavoidable.
There are many ways of fixing matches and we can't really say which one is the one being ruined, though there are many rumors about this but
nothing has been proven and exposed.
Match fixers got a strong foundation and knowledge in each activities that they'll going to rigged, they are master in what business they've take
inside the only hope is riding with them and collect the sweet cash!
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March 04, 2021, 10:45:54 AM
No one in this world will say no to money because we are doing everything to make that money and politics in sports and games are present in every country. So people will skills got rejected due to their colour, religion, etc even in the Olympic selection most of the corrupted nation send ineligible candidate for participating in the world arena.

Money definitely plays a big role in sports, but so does reliability and sinceretity. In today's world everybody has a cell phone with a good camera which makes proofing shady businesses happing in sports much easier. While it can go very fast to accept payments for a certain outcome in a game, the risks of being exposed these days is much higher. And so are the hidden costs. Once there is a video of corruption being published it will never go away, the Internet doesn't forget. So losing your job for a onetime pay check is a very risky.
Match fixing can be noticed but people who are behind will never be exposed because that is going to be the agreement between the players and the one who pays money to the player.
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