Topic: Craig Wright relents aka Satoshi (air quotes) in Public Apology! - page 2. (Read 8984 times)
Still unclear how he fooled Gavin. Might there be a bug in Electrum's signed message verification code?
One thought that crossed my mind was,
Craig wright seemed for a long time try to indicate he had a role at the start
maybe he was doing this to get investment privately implying or telling investors he created bitcoin
so he could get investment
he did get nearly $30m in BTC investments,
then he tried using them to pull a tax scam, to claim back $3m in fiat in tax refunds
Maybe he was still telling or suggesting to investors that he was Satoshi,
and maybe one of those investors called his bluff and told him go public, or prove he is satoshi and they will invest
if he was trying to secure invest of a few hundred million, then it would be worth a try in his mind
Craig wright seemed for a long time try to indicate he had a role at the start
maybe he was doing this to get investment privately implying or telling investors he created bitcoin
so he could get investment
he did get nearly $30m in BTC investments,
then he tried using them to pull a tax scam, to claim back $3m in fiat in tax refunds
Maybe he was still telling or suggesting to investors that he was Satoshi,
and maybe one of those investors called his bluff and told him go public, or prove he is satoshi and they will invest
if he was trying to secure invest of a few hundred million, then it would be worth a try in his mind
Well, it's obvious now that this was all either a scam from the guy that wants to get a lot of attention and media around him to later capitalize on it, or this is indeed a PSYOPs operation to take power away from Core devs as pointed by some people that cleverly realized this is a really serious option to consider.
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In Dr. Wright's Case, he had to convince people by:
1- Showing his absolute and deep knowledge and vision
2- Convincing people, trust worthy people, who know Satoshi better
3- Presenting his deep concerns and good intentions about the technology under consideration
4- Using his reputation and background as a respected, honest , trust worthy person
5- Putting forward his new and solid ideas about the future
6- Reasoning about his disappearance
7- Justifying his decision to reveal his Identity
And I think he has almost done all of this!
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In Dr. Wright's Case, he had to convince people by:
1- Showing his absolute and deep knowledge and vision
2- Convincing people, trust worthy people, who know Satoshi better
3- Presenting his deep concerns and good intentions about the technology under consideration
4- Using his reputation and background as a respected, honest , trust worthy person
5- Putting forward his new and solid ideas about the future
6- Reasoning about his disappearance
7- Justifying his decision to reveal his Identity
And I think he has almost done all of this!
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You are most likely a sock puppet of CSW or of his group.
Here are appropriate answers to your list to help determine is CSW is Satoshi:
1. Irrelevant. This information is speculative and doesn't determine if he is Satoshi.
2. Irrelevant. This information is speculative and doesn't determine if he is Satoshi.
3. Irrelevant. This information is speculative and doesn't determine if he is Satoshi.
4. Irrelevant. This information is speculative and doesn't determine if he is Satoshi.
5. Irrelevant. The issue here is the past and this doesn't determine if he is Satoshi.
6. Irrelevant. This information is speculative and doesn't determine if he is Satoshi.
7. Irrelevant. This information is speculative and doesn't determine if he is Satoshi.
According to your list, I have done everything you listed except number 2 so far.
So all I have to do is convince Gavin and three others, and you will go to bat for me?
Well. It is good as I said before to have people on board of thinking and discussing. But You have to be more specific than tagging things 'Irrelevant' . How is it possible being a qualified, 'opinionated', 'focused', honest, prestigious, convincing person who puts all his credit (very good credit) on the table and takes the responsibilty of being Satoshi (without any speculated interest) is 'irrelevant' but holding some sequence of bits in the pocket is relevant?
As most of the people I have met here, you suffer from Crypto- Exageration syndrome, obviously. I just can't help it. but .... let's try:
1- You and no body else can have an admin level knowledge of the technology without a formal, recorded top level engagement in the core team.
2- You have not convinced the reference people (suppose not tried though)
3-You have not a thorough vision about the technology or have not presented it to us yet
4- You do not hold the same level of legitimacy and popularity of Craig Wright
5- According to Gavin (trust worthy in this domain) Craig Wright has a lot of matured ideas and plans for the future of Blockchain and bitcoin. What's yours?
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And Finally You have not claimed to be Satoshi! You have not shown any willingness to take the responsibility.
And neither you nor any other person in the planet can pass all the items of such a checklist with zero failure other than Satoshi (and Dr. Craig Wright).
Now putting it the way you like and hypothetically rejecting my test or similar 'speculative' check lists ...
What's your alternative? How does Satoshi have to convince you to be himself? With PKs? This is it? He should mathematically prove what? Possessing some bit strings exactly proves what (other than possessing them)? ....Rejected!
Any other alternatives? Don't think so.
We real, mathematically non-provable human beings, living in a nonlinear chaotic real world have no choice other than continuing our 'speculative' thinking and reasoning. We do show respect to each other, we do love each other , ... based on this methodology. We have no choice, and should be happy with this fact ... I prefer to be dead and not been 'provably' respected or loved because of my 'provable' characteristics.
See? provability is totally 'irrelevant' here.
Craig Wright's Satoshi claim is not about registering some transaction in Blockchain or any GL ... It is about love, it is about appreciation and respect, it is about humanity, it can not be measured by some naive and preliminary branch of mathematics, analytical mathematics.
For all those who seem to be overlooking the explanation for his motivation to attempt this hoax, it has already been clearly explained:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hm5l1/telling_craig_wright_deflected_question_about/
He's been trying to convince them he's Satoshi for quite some time it seems. He can't prove it by direct means because he isn't Satoshi so doesn't have the PK, which is why he has had to risk escalating his claims with sleight-of-hand shenanigans and smooth-talking socially-awkward nerds like Gavin.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hm5l1/telling_craig_wright_deflected_question_about/
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A few months ago when Craig Wright first leaked documents to news outlets to attempt to out himself as Satoshi, it came to light that his company was the recipient of $54 Million in R&D subsidies from the Australian Tax Office, for which he was under investigation (and later had his home raided). In order to qualify for the subsidies, Wright claimed to have spent millions of dollars on R&D. However, his company did not spend a cent on R&D. He claimed that he "signed over the rights" to millions of dollars worth of bitcoin to a third party, and that it was spent on R&D. This was detailed in a company document. (The document was taken offline. If someone happened to save a copy, please post it. It used to be here: http://demorgan.com.au/assets/150511_demorgan_54mausindustryrebate.pdf).
In this document, he allegedly "signs over the rights" to his satoshi coins to a third party, which could (conveniently) only be loaned back to him for R&D purposes. Also, like a child, he calls out the person who is investigating him from the ATO in this document. Paraphrased: "See! I told you I was Satoshi! Now get off my back" https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
Are you starting to see the motive here?
Long story short, the Australain government wasn't buying the story that he was satoshi nakamoto and that he spent millions of dollars worth of bitcoin on R&D. His only way out would be to somehow convince the ATO that he is in fact Nakamoto, and does in fact own the bitcoin that he claimed to spend on R&D.
When asked about this in the BBC interview, he made it seem as though the Australian Tax Office was investigating him because they wanted him to pay taxes on his alleged bitcoin holdings. This is 100% false. They are coming after him for claiming to own Satoshi's coins and spending them to get a large R&D subsidy. The fact that he misrepresented the situation rather than addressing the actual issue when asked about it in the interview is very telling with regard to his likely motive.
In this document, he allegedly "signs over the rights" to his satoshi coins to a third party, which could (conveniently) only be loaned back to him for R&D purposes. Also, like a child, he calls out the person who is investigating him from the ATO in this document. Paraphrased: "See! I told you I was Satoshi! Now get off my back" https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
Are you starting to see the motive here?
Long story short, the Australain government wasn't buying the story that he was satoshi nakamoto and that he spent millions of dollars worth of bitcoin on R&D. His only way out would be to somehow convince the ATO that he is in fact Nakamoto, and does in fact own the bitcoin that he claimed to spend on R&D.
When asked about this in the BBC interview, he made it seem as though the Australian Tax Office was investigating him because they wanted him to pay taxes on his alleged bitcoin holdings. This is 100% false. They are coming after him for claiming to own Satoshi's coins and spending them to get a large R&D subsidy. The fact that he misrepresented the situation rather than addressing the actual issue when asked about it in the interview is very telling with regard to his likely motive.
He's been trying to convince them he's Satoshi for quite some time it seems. He can't prove it by direct means because he isn't Satoshi so doesn't have the PK, which is why he has had to risk escalating his claims with sleight-of-hand shenanigans and smooth-talking socially-awkward nerds like Gavin.
This fucking noob ass fucking wannabe piece of shit!
Why did gavin and friends go along w/ this bullshit?!
This guy was never prepared to sign proof of early blocks... fucking scam!
I knew it, its hilarious shit!
Why did gavin and friends go along w/ this bullshit?!
This guy was never prepared to sign proof of early blocks... fucking scam!
I knew it, its hilarious shit!
What is more hilarious is that he managed to con BBC and the economist.
Publications will be more careful about what they publish from now onwards.
hahaha - I would not be so sure about that!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Diaries
This fucking noob ass fucking wannabe piece of shit!
Why did gavin and friends go along w/ this bullshit?!
This guy was never prepared to sign proof of early blocks... fucking scam!
I knew it, its hilarious shit!
Why did gavin and friends go along w/ this bullshit?!
This guy was never prepared to sign proof of early blocks... fucking scam!
I knew it, its hilarious shit!
What is more hilarious is that he managed to con BBC and the economist.
Publications will be more careful about what they publish from now onwards.
http://drcraigwright.net/
I'm Sorry.
I believed I could do this. I believed that I could put years of anonymity and hiding behind me. But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot.
When the rumors began, my qualifications and character were attacked. When those allegations were proven false, new allegations have already begun. I know now that I am not strong enough for this.
I know that his weakness will cause great damage to those that have supported me, and particularly to Jon Matonis and Gavin Anderson. I can only hope that their honour and credibility is not irreparably tainted by my actions. They were not deceived, but I know that the world will never believe that now. I can only say I'm sorry.
And goodbye.
I'm Sorry.
I believed I could do this. I believed that I could put years of anonymity and hiding behind me. But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot.
When the rumors began, my qualifications and character were attacked. When those allegations were proven false, new allegations have already begun. I know now that I am not strong enough for this.
I know that his weakness will cause great damage to those that have supported me, and particularly to Jon Matonis and Gavin Anderson. I can only hope that their honour and credibility is not irreparably tainted by my actions. They were not deceived, but I know that the world will never believe that now. I can only say I'm sorry.
And goodbye.
This fucking noob ass fucking wannabe piece of shit!
Why did gavin and friends go along w/ this bullshit?!
This guy was never prepared to sign proof of early blocks... fucking scam!
I knew it, its hilarious shit!
Hoax confirmed.
Let's start that bull market!
Let's start that bull market!
The price actually seems to have started moving up since this news came out!!
Closing in on $460 now.
I've been doing some digging.
He's pretty much the real deal.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14774881
Not sure about Being Satoshi. That'll need some proofs.
But these guys have been mining since diff 1.
He's pretty much the real deal.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14774881
Not sure about Being Satoshi. That'll need some proofs.
But these guys have been mining since diff 1.
I gotta get my hands on some of those "offshore bitcoins"!
"Can't handle the pressure"?
Haha.
More like, "Thanks for letting me bathe in popularity, but I simply am a hoax. I can't sign my address. Got ya, suckers!"
Haha.
More like, "Thanks for letting me bathe in popularity, but I simply am a hoax. I can't sign my address. Got ya, suckers!"
I didn't believe that Craig Wright is the one who use alias as satoshi nakamoto, because in my point of view the real personality of satoshi nakamoto still not yet found by anyone.
LMAO
This gets funnier and funnier.
This gets funnier and funnier.
From where did the get the Satoshi keys?
I've been doing some digging.
He's pretty much the real deal.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14774881
Not sure about Being Satoshi. That'll need some proofs.
But these guys have been mining since diff 1.
He's pretty much the real deal.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14774881
Not sure about Being Satoshi. That'll need some proofs.
But these guys have been mining since diff 1.
If Gavin was made to sign a NDA would this whole thing being a lie make that contract void?
I still don't understand what was is motivation for this, and I assume he knew this lie would be very short lived...
One good reddit theory was that he was being investigated in Australia for tax evasion since he didn't have proof of a $54 million tax write-off in spending for his company. So, bitcoin and its anonymous transactions is the perfect cover.
Bitcoin isn't anonymous. What are you talking about? It's pseudonymous. You can track all transactions. That's so clearly not anonymous.
It was obvious from the start he isn't Satoshi. He's clearly got an ulterior motive.
Note that the genesis block cannot presently be spent so it is essentially a "burn address" at the moment.
That said, a small code change could make it spendable but good luck getting that adopted...
That said, a small code change could make it spendable but good luck getting that adopted...
There are other coins, besides the 50 unspendable btc, within the genesis block
address that can be moved without needing code change or anything.
All he has to do is sign a message from that address only, he doesn't need to move anything.
Note that the genesis block cannot presently be spent so it is essentially a "burn address" at the moment.
That said, a small code change could make it spendable but good luck getting that adopted...
That said, a small code change could make it spendable but good luck getting that adopted...
Do you know the address of that genesis block? I would like to see how many bitcoin are there beside that initial 50 BTC.
I heard that people were sending there donations for years.
I heard that people were sending there donations for years.
The address is 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.
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