Lauda, I know Gavin and Matonis give you nightmares in your dreams but there is no reason to be upset with them. They saw proof in person that was clearly convincing, and furthermore his personality fit with who they thought was satoshi. As much as you'd love to turn this into a smearfest against Gavin, I'm afraid it just doesn't hold up to water. You can't get upset with someone for having a personal opinion.
Incorrect. Personally, I have nothing against either one of them. However, my argument stands: Either both have been conned quite easily (i.e. they are too naive) or they have both been part of that 'plan' and signed an NDA. We might never know. In any case, there was a high chance that Gavin would have given CW control over the project (if he could). At least that is what he said a few years back about Satoshi. I do not understand why you would let them off so easy (people who helped spread this unfortunate event)?
They should be held accountable.
I've posted it somewhere already but if you watch what CW says in some of his interviews, I don't understand how the connection could even be made between him and Satoshi, except for the fact he was around in the early bitcoin days, has a good chunk of coins (possibly), and knows a lot about cryptography, which Gavin himself has said he didn't think Satoshi was a cryptographer at all, but rather a brilliant programmer. CW describes himself as being a cryptographer most of his life. I also don't see Satoshi seeing the future of bitcoin as being able to track the can you've littered so your government can come tell you your being bad.
https://vimeo.com/149035662In all honesty, I was not on these forums during the time of Satoshi but I have read his posts and papers and tried to gauge a personality/character out of what he had put out to the public and this guy just didn't match in many ways for me so I was surprised to see so many, even old members, falling for this guy. Maybe his scripted/planned conversations with Gavin were centered around sounding like Satoshi or maybe it was just the support by Gavin, but this is no excuse.
I'm down to two options..... Gavin was either blinded by pure greed and willing to accept anything when
someone was supporting his development ideas (speculation) or he was flat out involved in the planning of this nonsense. There is more evidence of the latter but not enough to be conclusive.
Ironically, if Satoshi did come back, I would not be surprised if he wanted to tarnish the reputation of Gavin.
Basically, bring it on. Let's encourage Wikileaks to use Bitcoins and I'm willing to face any risk or fallout from that act.
No, don't "bring it on".
The project needs to grow gradually so the software can be strengthened along the way.
I make this appeal to WikiLeaks not to try to use Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a small beta community in its infancy. You would not stand to get more than pocket change, and the heat you would bring would likely destroy us at this stage.
What "heat" do you think Satoshi was referring to? I would argue it was the same "heat" that Gavin decided to go do a presentation for back in June of 2011 which is why he disappeared after hearing about Gavin's decision. I get the feeling Satoshi was not happy with the attention that was coming from wikileaks, Gavin was the tipping point with the CIA, and he saw no way to correct it.
Am I completely off base here??
