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Quote from: fullhdpixel on December 25, 2022, 01:58:04 PM

Who cares about things in subcontinent because we have culture like this mostly ruling parties are having influence few years back they were doing for their own party members now they are bringing their kids with alternative ways like we have Jay Shah who is currently controlling the BCCI and no one can challenge him because now it's multi-billion game in India specially after having 10 team in IPL and having more control in ICC.

In Pakistan, it's completely different because Pakistan is much behind in many ways even right now they are not near the Bangladesh which is currently Asian tiger in development and Pakistan is near the default problem but still they are breaking developments in PCB as well which will surely hurt the team performance as well I am feeling sad how they bring person like Najam Sethi as the chairman is worst for the PCB and cricket.

Actually no one would care about you if you don't care about yourself.
the world cares only about the powerful and successful - so unless and until the Asian countries wont care for themselves - they will remain like this.
Taking about new PCB chairman - I am sad to see what is going on in Pakistan. Earlier they dissolved good government and now they destroyed the good Chairman

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Quote from: Vaskiy on December 25, 2022, 12:04:13 PM

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on December 25, 2022, 11:52:40 AM

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

Earlier this was much experienced with India, and now the same trend is getting around with rest of the Asian countries. Cricketing knowledge is a must to know the needs of the cricketers. Now the cricket boards were under the control of politicians and their kids. This will complete ruin the true spirit over sports.

It's not Asian Countries but it is the corrupt mindset of the underdeveloped countries.
It is very sad to see the name of Najam Sethi as the chairman cricket - he is close to Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif and they want to eat and get as much money as they could. Now they have all left the country because they know they have no future in Pakistan .

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on December 25, 2022, 11:52:40 AM

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

It is sad to see Pakistan going through the political turmoil and the after effects are seen all over.
Najam Sethi is one of the most corrupt Chairman cricket board had ever experienced. Ramiz Raja knew the game - and he has done a lot for the uplift of the cricket.

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Quote from: BobK71 on December 25, 2022, 02:53:50 AM

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

It's not all about democracy it's all about system which is more important as we have in developed countries and in many other countries those are not near the democracy but going with strong system here in subcontinent culture is completely handled by few groups which are doing wrong things and holding major stakes which is giving them all power, and they are not bringing system or merit policies which are important, and we have only three cricket boards with strong system and fair policy ECB, CA and CNZ they are having the best things for their players and peoples.

All other boards and sports organizations are suffering badly due to ethical and political systems, and they are suffering into game as well because recently we have big dropped in South African quality with Sri Lanka is also suffering badly due to poor system West Indies is already near the end due to personal issues and having not merit policy and going with quota system.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on December 25, 2022, 11:52:40 AM

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

Earlier this was much experienced with India, and now the same trend is getting around with rest of the Asian countries. Cricketing knowledge is a must to know the needs of the cricketers. Now the cricket boards were under the control of politicians and their kids. This will complete ruin the true spirit over sports.

Who cares about things in subcontinent because we have culture like this mostly ruling parties are having influence few years back they were doing for their own party members now they are bringing their kids with alternative ways like we have Jay Shah who is currently controlling the BCCI and no one can challenge him because now it's multi-billion game in India specially after having 10 team in IPL and having more control in ICC.

In Pakistan, it's completely different because Pakistan is much behind in many ways even right now they are not near the Bangladesh which is currently Asian tiger in development and Pakistan is near the default problem but still they are breaking developments in PCB as well which will surely hurt the team performance as well I am feeling sad how they bring person like Najam Sethi as the chairman is worst for the PCB and cricket.

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Quote from: posi on December 25, 2022, 05:34:41 AM

So let me get this straight. Just because cricket is the second most popular sport in the whole world.
So, it does not need to expand the number of teams that play in the World Cup?
And it also can be allowed to have corruption?

You clearly didn't understand my point. Expanding teams at this point isn't really necessary since many new teams have been improving and gaining ground in recent teams. Also, I hate corruption too, but you can never completely stop it.

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90% of the audience for the IPL are Indians. Nice work, achieving global audiences.

90%? Lol. Majority are Indians for sure, but your 90% claim is silly and below link is just one example as to why.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 25, 2022, 09:24:35 AM

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90% of the audience for the IPL are Indians. Nice work, achieving global audiences.

Why you think the advertisers are happy in shelling out millions for the IPL, they are reaching the targeted audience and as long as they are happy it does not matter 90% or 100% audience are Indians.

That was the point I was trying to make. Since most of the viewers are from India, the game is not that much of a global phenomenon, isn't it? It is also pertinent to note that there is a big reason why we see such a significant decrease in viewers for Big Bash compared to the IPL. At least that’s what I know.

This isn't to imply that the players in the Big Bash are any less skilled than those in the IPL for example. There is just too much hype surrounding cricket in India at the moment. There is nothing wrong with that, and I am not saying it is a wrong thing. There is only one thing I think the ICC needs to do to improve the popularity of cricket around the world.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on December 25, 2022, 11:52:40 AM

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

Earlier this was much experienced with India, and now the same trend is getting around with rest of the Asian countries. Cricketing knowledge is a must to know the needs of the cricketers. Now the cricket boards were under the control of politicians and their kids. This will complete ruin the true spirit over sports.

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So politics is too much involved in the decision making process of the Pakistan cricket board?
If their chairman is changed and the new PCB chairman agree to play Asia Cup at neutral ground, it will be a big set back for the Pakistan cricket board as the world and ICC will think that they have agreed whatever BCCI and ICC wants them to do.
I wonder what will be the reaction of people of Pakistan if this actually happens Shocked

The entire controversy was started by Jay Shah, to divert attention from the sacking of Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI chairman. I think India will visit Pakistan to participate in the Asia Cup and this controversy will be put to rest. There is no logic in India refusing to visit Pakistan, when the latter are ready to tour India for the ODI world cup later next year. ICC should take a neutral decision here, but I don't know whether they will be able to do that or not, especially given the fact that pig-4 nominee Barclay is the chairman.

Yes that's the dilemma politics is controlling everything in Pakistan, every field and sectors and all top posts are selected politically.

Yeh it's totally true that in both Asian country like Pakistan and India politician control everything like touring any country or participating in any competition and selection of his cricket team chairman. Now after removal of ramiz Raja everyone know that he has been removed due his tough decisions and strong stances against India. I am pretty sure that new PCB chairman will shift the venue of Asia Cup from Pakistan which ramiz raja didn't want and also Pakistan will visit India for World Cup which also ramiz raja didn't want. So the main point is that every decision will be from government not from the behalf of civilian favor.

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

Absolutely true. And democracy is by the people, of the people, and for the people. But the people are retarded. So that is why democracy is not going to be the way how any country or organization can flourish. At least as long as the people are retarded. And that’s exactly what is happening in the subcontinent.

The people who are in control of politics, I mean the politicians are retarded. At least most of them are. That is why countries like Bangladesh, and Pakistan, which should have been developed country by now, still has a lot of problems. And obviously, cricket and other sports are also controlled by politicians in these countries. So just like the other things in these countries, sports and cricket are also not developed quickly.

Pakistan is definitely the worst example of democracy as nothing is selected by people of Pakistan , everything is kind if imposed and implemented forcefully by so called democratic leaders who came in power by corruption and illegally.

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

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Quote from: BobK71 on December 25, 2022, 02:53:50 AM

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

now Chairman Pakistani cricket board has changed and Ramiz Raja has been replaced by Najam Sethi and Najam Sethi has been the most controversial personality and he has destroyed the Pakistani cricket to the extreme. Ramiz Raja has been very good Chairman. I wish he comes back to his position again.

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So politics is too much involved in the decision making process of the Pakistan cricket board?
If their chairman is changed and the new PCB chairman agree to play Asia Cup at neutral ground, it will be a big set back for the Pakistan cricket board as the world and ICC will think that they have agreed whatever BCCI and ICC wants them to do.
I wonder what will be the reaction of people of Pakistan if this actually happens Shocked

The entire controversy was started by Jay Shah, to divert attention from the sacking of Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI chairman. I think India will visit Pakistan to participate in the Asia Cup and this controversy will be put to rest. There is no logic in India refusing to visit Pakistan, when the latter are ready to tour India for the ODI world cup later next year. ICC should take a neutral decision here, but I don't know whether they will be able to do that or not, especially given the fact that pig-4 nominee Barclay is the chairman.

Yes that's the dilemma politics is controlling everything in Pakistan, every field and sectors and all top posts are selected politically.

Yeh it's totally true that in both Asian country like Pakistan and India politician control everything like touring any country or participating in any competition and selection of his cricket team chairman. Now after removal of ramiz Raja everyone know that he has been removed due his tough decisions and strong stances against India. I am pretty sure that new PCB chairman will shift the venue of Asia Cup from Pakistan which ramiz raja didn't want and also Pakistan will visit India for World Cup which also ramiz raja didn't want. So the main point is that every decision will be from government not from the behalf of civilian favor.

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

Absolutely true. And democracy is by the people, of the people, and for the people. But the people are retarded. So that is why democracy is not going to be the way how any country or organization can flourish. At least as long as the people are retarded. And that’s exactly what is happening in the subcontinent.

The people who are in control of politics, I mean the politicians are retarded. At least most of them are. That is why countries like Bangladesh, and Pakistan, which should have been developed country by now, still has a lot of problems. And obviously, cricket and other sports are also controlled by politicians in these countries. So just like the other things in these countries, sports and cricket are also not developed quickly.

Pakistan is definitely the worst example of democracy as nothing is selected by people of Pakistan , everything is kind if imposed and implemented forcefully by so called democratic leaders who came in power by corruption and illegally .
Pakistan has suffered alot because of the corruption and is still suffering ,as we are here to discuss cricket every decision in cricket board is taken on political and discrimination basis such as Najam Sethi.

Why are you blaming only Pakistan, i think the big cricketing countries in Asia are all in the same situation. Nowadays no cricket board can function without political interference. I see the same situation in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. But I can't say anything about Sri Lanka due to economic collapse. As far as I know about Bangladesh Cricket Board, BCB Board President has been in the same seat for more than 1 decade. He has no alternative. As a result, there is no major change in Bangladesh cricket. We should now accept the political dominance. Otherwise it is not possible to do anything in cricket.

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Quote from: Tony116 on December 25, 2022, 05:50:29 AM

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Absolutely true. And democracy is by the people, of the people, and for the people. But the people are retarded. So that is why democracy is not going to be the way how any country or organization can flourish. At least as long as the people are retarded. And that’s exactly what is happening in the subcontinent.

The politicians wants their voters to be divided and retarded, pseudo nationalism or in the name of religion is how you earn the vote by creating a villain out of nothing and it was successful in the past and sadly it is successful even now. In the case of Pakistan the military has a major control in politics and that is how the system works.

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90% of the audience for the IPL are Indians. Nice work, achieving global audiences.

Why you think the advertisers are happy in shelling out millions for the IPL, they are reaching the targeted audience and as long as they are happy it does not matter 90% or 100% audience are Indians.

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So politics is too much involved in the decision making process of the Pakistan cricket board?
If their chairman is changed and the new PCB chairman agree to play Asia Cup at neutral ground, it will be a big set back for the Pakistan cricket board as the world and ICC will think that they have agreed whatever BCCI and ICC wants them to do.
I wonder what will be the reaction of people of Pakistan if this actually happens Shocked

The entire controversy was started by Jay Shah, to divert attention from the sacking of Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI chairman. I think India will visit Pakistan to participate in the Asia Cup and this controversy will be put to rest. There is no logic in India refusing to visit Pakistan, when the latter are ready to tour India for the ODI world cup later next year. ICC should take a neutral decision here, but I don't know whether they will be able to do that or not, especially given the fact that pig-4 nominee Barclay is the chairman.

Yes that's the dilemma politics is controlling everything in Pakistan, every field and sectors and all top posts are selected politically.

Yeh it's totally true that in both Asian country like Pakistan and India politician control everything like touring any country or participating in any competition and selection of his cricket team chairman. Now after removal of ramiz Raja everyone know that he has been removed due his tough decisions and strong stances against India. I am pretty sure that new PCB chairman will shift the venue of Asia Cup from Pakistan which ramiz raja didn't want and also Pakistan will visit India for World Cup which also ramiz raja didn't want. So the main point is that every decision will be from government not from the behalf of civilian favor.

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

Absolutely true. And democracy is by the people, of the people, and for the people. But the people are retarded. So that is why democracy is not going to be the way how any country or organization can flourish. At least as long as the people are retarded. And that’s exactly what is happening in the subcontinent.

The people who are in control of politics, I mean the politicians are retarded. At least most of them are. That is why countries like Bangladesh, and Pakistan, which should have been developed country by now, still has a lot of problems. And obviously, cricket and other sports are also controlled by politicians in these countries. So just like the other things in these countries, sports and cricket are also not developed quickly.

Pakistan is definitely the worst example of democracy as nothing is selected by people of Pakistan , everything is kind if imposed and implemented forcefully by so called democratic leaders who came in power by corruption and illegally .
Pakistan has suffered alot because of the corruption and is still suffering ,as we are here to discuss cricket every decision in cricket board is taken on political and discrimination basis such as Najam Sethi.

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So politics is too much involved in the decision making process of the Pakistan cricket board?
If their chairman is changed and the new PCB chairman agree to play Asia Cup at neutral ground, it will be a big set back for the Pakistan cricket board as the world and ICC will think that they have agreed whatever BCCI and ICC wants them to do.
I wonder what will be the reaction of people of Pakistan if this actually happens Shocked

The entire controversy was started by Jay Shah, to divert attention from the sacking of Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI chairman. I think India will visit Pakistan to participate in the Asia Cup and this controversy will be put to rest. There is no logic in India refusing to visit Pakistan, when the latter are ready to tour India for the ODI world cup later next year. ICC should take a neutral decision here, but I don't know whether they will be able to do that or not, especially given the fact that pig-4 nominee Barclay is the chairman.

Yes that's the dilemma politics is controlling everything in Pakistan, every field and sectors and all top posts are selected politically.

Yeh it's totally true that in both Asian country like Pakistan and India politician control everything like touring any country or participating in any competition and selection of his cricket team chairman. Now after removal of ramiz Raja everyone know that he has been removed due his tough decisions and strong stances against India. I am pretty sure that new PCB chairman will shift the venue of Asia Cup from Pakistan which ramiz raja didn't want and also Pakistan will visit India for World Cup which also ramiz raja didn't want. So the main point is that every decision will be from government not from the behalf of civilian favor.

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

Absolutely true. And democracy is by the people, of the people, and for the people. But the people are retarded. So that is why democracy is not going to be the way how any country or organization can flourish. At least as long as the people are retarded. And that’s exactly what is happening in the subcontinent.

The people who are in control of politics, I mean the politicians are retarded. At least most of them are. That is why countries like Bangladesh, and Pakistan, which should have been developed country by now, still has a lot of problems. And obviously, cricket and other sports are also controlled by politicians in these countries. So just like the other things in these countries, sports and cricket are also not developed quickly.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 24, 2022, 09:37:48 AM

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And I think making people interested in cricket is something that ICC should start doing. I cannot say that I have seen any attempt from the ICC to make cricket interesting towards the people around the whole world. Cricket is not even in that bad situation right now. I think cricket can be saved, actually, I should say the future of cricket can be saved if ICC takes some necessary steps.
ICC is not going to get better revenue if more and more people do not get interested in cricket.

What a load of nonsense. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world and leagues like the IPL are some of the most popular and expensive leagues globally which is why your reasoning makes zero sense.
The ICC are just another corrupt organization who will continue focusing more on countries like India, Pakistan, Australia etc where cricket is extremely popular for financial reasons primarily.
However, they have been slowly and steadily diverting some of their focus towards new cricket friendly nations these days.

So let me get this straight. Just because cricket is the second most popular sport in the whole world.
So, it does not need to expand the number of teams that play in the World Cup?
And it also can be allowed to have corruption?

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90% of the audience for the IPL are Indians. Nice work, achieving global audiences.

And why is the World Cup of such a popular game, cricket has only 12–15 teams in it?

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So politics is too much involved in the decision making process of the Pakistan cricket board?

If their chairman is changed and the new PCB chairman agree to play Asia Cup at neutral ground, it will be a big set back for the Pakistan cricket board as the world and ICC will think that they have agreed whatever BCCI and ICC wants them to do.

I wonder what will be the reaction of people of Pakistan if this actually happens Shocked

The entire controversy was started by Jay Shah, to divert attention from the sacking of Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI chairman. I think India will visit Pakistan to participate in the Asia Cup and this controversy will be put to rest. There is no logic in India refusing to visit Pakistan, when the latter are ready to tour India for the ODI world cup later next year. ICC should take a neutral decision here, but I don't know whether they will be able to do that or not, especially given the fact that pig-4 nominee Barclay is the chairman.

Yes that's the dilemma politics is controlling everything in Pakistan, every field and sectors and all top posts are selected politically.

Yeh it's totally true that in both Asian country like Pakistan and India politician control everything like touring any country or participating in any competition and selection of his cricket team chairman. Now after removal of ramiz Raja everyone know that he has been removed due his tough decisions and strong stances against India. I am pretty sure that new PCB chairman will shift the venue of Asia Cup from Pakistan which ramiz raja didn't want and also Pakistan will visit India for World Cup which also ramiz raja didn't want. So the main point is that every decision will be from government not from the behalf of civilian favor.

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

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So politics is too much involved in the decision making process of the Pakistan cricket board?

If their chairman is changed and the new PCB chairman agree to play Asia Cup at neutral ground, it will be a big set back for the Pakistan cricket board as the world and ICC will think that they have agreed whatever BCCI and ICC wants them to do.

I wonder what will be the reaction of people of Pakistan if this actually happens Shocked

The entire controversy was started by Jay Shah, to divert attention from the sacking of Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI chairman. I think India will visit Pakistan to participate in the Asia Cup and this controversy will be put to rest. There is no logic in India refusing to visit Pakistan, when the latter are ready to tour India for the ODI world cup later next year. ICC should take a neutral decision here, but I don't know whether they will be able to do that or not, especially given the fact that pig-4 nominee Barclay is the chairman.

Yes that's the dilemma politics is controlling everything in Pakistan, every field and sectors and all top posts are selected politically.

Yeh it's totally true that in both Asian country like Pakistan and India politician control everything like touring any country or participating in any competition and selection of his cricket team chairman. Now after removal of ramiz Raja everyone know that he has been removed due his tough decisions and strong stances against India. I am pretty sure that new PCB chairman will shift the venue of Asia Cup from Pakistan which ramiz raja didn't want and also Pakistan will visit India for World Cup which also ramiz raja didn't want. So the main point is that every decision will be from government not from the behalf of civilian favor.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on December 24, 2022, 03:18:30 PM

I remember we have a soccer match between Diego Maradona and Michel Platini elevens for the spirit of the game and Diego Maradona's motto was drugs free sports and Michel Platini's motto was corruption free spots and after this match we have Diego Maradona involved in drugs and Michel Platini was sacked from UEFA for the involvement in corruption which is best picture of this all era so how can you expect ICC will be corruption free, and we will be having things on merit while we have countries like India and Pakistan.

Agreed. Maradona is the symbol of craziness and despair despite being one of the best players in the world of football all thanks to his insane real-life persona. Messi is way better than him as a player and as a person.

ICC will never change their corrupt ways, but they need to get rid of some of their archaic rules and install new ones in their place asap.

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Quote from: posi on December 24, 2022, 08:51:54 AM

And I think making people interested in cricket is something that ICC should start doing. I cannot say that I have seen any attempt from the ICC to make cricket interesting towards the people around the whole world. Cricket is not even in that bad situation right now. I think cricket can be saved, actually, I should say the future of cricket can be saved if ICC takes some necessary steps.

ICC is not going to get better revenue if more and more people do not get interested in cricket.

What a load of nonsense. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world and leagues like the IPL are some of the most popular and expensive leagues globally which is why your reasoning makes zero sense.

The ICC are just another corrupt organization who will continue focusing more on countries like India, Pakistan, Australia etc where cricket is extremely popular for financial reasons primarily.

However, they have been slowly and steadily diverting some of their focus towards new cricket friendly nations these days.

Money, Mafia and corruption is now a part of the society we can't avoid these things and life is also not easy without their involvement for the higher profile peoples now it's all in blood of this generation as many are having dream to be rich very quickly with few are achieving their goals with the help of technology and their genius minds, but most of they are trying to achieve these things with the involvement of this all.

I remember we have a soccer match between Diego Maradona and Michel Platini elevens for the spirit of the game and Diego Maradona's motto was drugs free sports and Michel Platini's motto was corruption free spots and after this match we have Diego Maradona involved in drugs and Michel Platini was sacked from UEFA for the involvement in corruption which is best picture of this all era so how can you expect ICC will be corruption free, and we will be having things on merit while we have countries like India and Pakistan.

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Quote from: posi on December 24, 2022, 08:51:54 AM

And I think making people interested in cricket is something that ICC should start doing. I cannot say that I have seen any attempt from the ICC to make cricket interesting towards the people around the whole world. Cricket is not even in that bad situation right now. I think cricket can be saved, actually, I should say the future of cricket can be saved if ICC takes some necessary steps.

ICC is not going to get better revenue if more and more people do not get interested in cricket.

What a load of nonsense. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world and leagues like the IPL are some of the most popular and expensive leagues globally which is why your reasoning makes zero sense.

The ICC are just another corrupt organization who will continue focusing more on countries like India, Pakistan, Australia etc where cricket is extremely popular for financial reasons primarily.

However, they have been slowly and steadily diverting some of their focus towards new cricket friendly nations these days.

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