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Pakistan cricket board along with the government will give the best security. Whenever there is a schedule between India and Pakistan, the same will be promoted in all possible means. Look at today's match, the ground is full. The host nation is Australia and for its match we can't expect the same crowd. For the betterment of Pakistan cricket, they are in need of hosting Asia Cup. The discussion will not come to an end, and Pakistan won't be hosting the league.

You are right here about comparison of FIFA and ICC, but I have another question why they are not adding more members for having voting right and why they are not doing things which are helpful for this game now it's 21st century, and you can do things very quickly even they are not giving funds to associate countries as they deserve, and they are encouraging countries which are not helpful for the development of this game specially Gulf region who is doing this all and what their target for this all these all questions looking for replies who will give this all.

These B-3 are never been interested in development of this game because their pockets are filled by their own ways which are not helpful for this game and development of many countries which are surely can do good for this game specially now introduction of T20, T10 and The Hundred formats we can bring good number of teams which is surely in great interest of this game.

Sithara007, Actually, that is true. Right now everyone is talking about the issue of India not traveling to Pakistan. But meanwhile, Jay Shah got what he wanted. And actually, I would be very happy if there was no problem with the Asia Cup being hosted in Pakistan. They really needed it. But I have to say for some reason I actually expected this to happen. Whenever India versus Pakistan is being discussed, there always has to be some drama. Otherwise, it does not feel like India versus Pakistan.

Anyway, I don't think there will be any problems with Pakistan hosting the Asia Cup. And now I think the security is going to be better than ever in Pakistan.

India and Pakistan match is a kind of Desi Ashes.
There is always a big crowd and the excitement is at the peak - there is a huge fan following for both the countries and the fans and the crowd is the charged like crazy.

Haris Rauf bowling - india needs 29 run on 9 balls. Now only the mical can save the Indian team
Outstanding bowling from Haris Rauf - heart throbbing innings. Kohli hits 6 and now its 22 of 7 balls.

India now needs 55 runs form 25 ball. Now they have to take the faster pace to win the match.
Pakistan is in great strength - in my country the road are empty and everyone is watching the match. There are screen fixed everywhere. This match is the most watched match- read in other forum that 11 million viewer are watching match at this time

Yes, I definitely can't compare ICC with FIFA. I know FIFA's position belongs to very high and have more members. Also there are more than billions of dollars involved in everyday. One of the most prosperous organization in the world. Can't be compared to them but there's nothing wrong with following them. Maybe there will be some obstacles too. But there are some things like biased behavior, focusing only on pecuniary interest etc. Which should be avoid by ICC. There will be no harm in following the positivities or the good aspects.
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Fifa is not controlled by few countries since the whole world is involved in Fifa affairs. But in icc only big 3 are controlling whole icc. Its best in interest of big 3 that crikcer doesn't reach to new countries. The control of big 3 will be further tighten as IPL is getting bigger and bigger.

Yes, I definitely can't compare ICC with FIFA. I know FIFA's position belongs to very high and have more members. Also there are more than billions of dollars involved in everyday. One of the most prosperous organization in the world. Can't be compared to them but there's nothing wrong with following them. Maybe there will be some obstacles too. But there are some things like biased behavior, focusing only on pecuniary interest etc. Which should be avoid by ICC. There will be no harm in following the positivities or the good aspects.

BCCI is biggest board and they can say whatever they want and no one will object on that since icc is firmly under BCCI control. Pakistan has gone to India to play World Cup and its first time in decade that BCCI is scheduled to play in Pakistan for an icc event. I don't think there is any excuse for that.

Agreed completely.

This Jay Shutia freaking shah got on the wild horse and made a silly statement out of nowhere and triggered everyone. Would've been great if this statement came out during ACC meeting but no these folks keep getting drunk in the dry state of India every now n then.

Although he pointed out the obvious thing as far as BCCI is concerned but there are proper channels for that.

You can never compare the ICC with FIFA. ICC has just 12 full members. On the other hand, FIFA has more than 200 members, and all of them have equal voting rights. So it is possible in the ICC to have one or two members dominating the entire policy making process. But in FIFA, it is more difficult (but not impossible, as we saw how Qatar won the hosting rights for the world cup). Personally, I believe that Jay Shah's statement was in bad taste and amounts to abuse of power. There is no reason to demand Asia Cup to be shifted out of Pakistan.

Indeed, the ICC has acknowledged the difficult situation. It is also difficult task for them to solve it. On the one hand Pakistan will host and on the other hand India will not play. It seems that cricket is private property. He will do whatever he wants. If we look at FIFA, the decision they will give will be final there is no room for dissent. Even in this case, if the ICC had played that role, then there would not have been any adverse reaction between these two countries.

I don't think Jay Shah has a problem with it happening in Pakistan. If it was between the boards, the countries would play a lot. But the actual decision will be made by the government of India. And given the current situation between these two countries, India may very well not travel to Pakistan or the tournament will be moved to a neutral venue. The political tension isn't getting any better. Saying that there will be no issues seem extremely optimistic.

Pakistan did the same thing in 2018 and the tournament was moved to UAE. Political tensions were pretty bad then too.

Also I believe the primary reason for the government to go is not security but bad history between the countries (the terror attacks on India).

Personally I believe that Jay Shah was not serious when he talked about not traveling to Pakistan for the world cup. He just wanted to divert attention from some of the other issues (check my previous posts). In the end, I believe that there will be no issues and India will travel to take part in the Asia Cup. And similarly, Pakistan will participate in the ODI World Cup of 2023. By now, it looks as if Shah got what he wanted. He will keep quiet for sometime, unless there is a requirement to again perform the verbal diarrhoea to divert attention from some other topic.

@BobK71 I love this forum because here we can give our viewpoint about anything, and we have to accept others argue as well even right now situation is not good in both countries and most chances India could be winner because of their money power because right now all points in their side, but one thing is sure Pakistan is also not weak as many are feeling even flood and political situation is not good, but it's all too early Asia Cup is going to hold after few months, so time is still with them but currently as
@JSRAW is saying state backed terrorist which is surely not good for me as well because it's just one side view, but we have to accept this they can tell as they also lost big in Afghanistan after Taliban back in power and USA is also playing his game just because of this lost.

Again back on cricket most chances Asia Cup will be moved to neutral place like we have last in the UAE, and then we have to wait for Pakistan move about their threat of boycotting world cup which is surely not realistic because this can give them big setback but here we have to wait for Indian response would they allow Pakistani team to travel in India it's also very important because right now right wing religious peoples are in complete control and government can take any decision which could be not good for Pakistan.

I feel that this is a very delicate situation for both the team’s and ICC, and instead of giving statements in media they should all sit down in a room and discuss what’s the best way to defuse this situation. Furthermore I feel that if ICC fail’s to resolve this then that’s why the point of having them, but i do understand that it won’t be easy for ICC and lastly I’m sure that we’ll be seeing more drama from both the team’s over these issue’s.

Well, you are entitled to defend anything you want and there is nothing wrong IMO, so no argument there whatsoever.

We've already established that PCB has every right to host the Asia cup at home but at the same BCCI has every right not to visit them. No board should take orders from another board, If PCB don't like a neutral venue then they should go ahead and organize the tournament without India, no one can stop them. BCCI did the same thing in 1990-91 edition and after that, they just stopped hosting Asia Cup.

Most people lose their common sense when they get into power. Under the influence of power, they start behaving differently towards the weaker. But they forget that power is not permanent. There will come at a stage when that ability will no longer exist.

For the good approach of cricket, Pakistan should be given the opportunity to hold the Asia Cup without taking any negativity. It would be better if Asian countries support it instead of opposing it. They have already announced that they will not participate in the World Cup if the next Asia Cup is not held in Pakistan. And it is also a threat to cricket. Many may say that nothing matters if they participate or not. In that case, there is a word that nothing happens without a single country. But there will be some temporary effect and it will be fixed later. But cricket will lose its respect.

Frankly, I am willing to defend Pakistan here. You cannot call a country "sponsor of terrorism" just because some dumb people bombs themselves in the name of religion. You also cannot call a country terrorist just because some other country listed them as terrorists when that certain country was the one to teach terrorism in the first place. Anyway, I will not pay attention to any political stuff anymore.

I think the Pakistan cricket board has the absolute right to host the Asia Cup in their own country. For a long time, international cricket was not played in Pakistan let alone any tournament until recently. This is the start of something good and I really do not think that the BCCI has any right to damage that or stop that from happening.


I have always said that the problem is that the people in power are really narrow-minded and quite racist, to be honest. They don't want the conflict to end. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any problems like this. They just want to watch the other suffer.

Not sure about a conflict, BCCI rejecting the offer to play the Asian cup in Pakistan due to security issues and other teams started visiting them recently after a lengthy halt and the break was mainly due to security reasons and when India tours Pakistan may be the stakes are higher considering what happened to Sri Lanka.

As for me these conflicts are political and whenever India and Pakistan tend to amend their issues in the past there would be a terrorist attack and it was a recurring theme for more than 30 years and if PCB thinks that it is not safe for them to play the next ODI World Cup they can make the decision on not sending the team, it is fair for them to think on that aspect as well.