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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 04, 2022, 10:11:33 PM

Some interesting developments regarding the election to the post of ICC chairman. Greg Barclay announced that he will run for the post once again, supported by all the pig-4 boards (BCCI, ECB, CA and CNZ). The BCCI actually pulled back the name of Sourav Ganguly, in favor of Barclay. From the other side, Imran Khwaja was initially interested, but he pulled out after it became clear that he doesn't have the necessary support. For the elections, Barclay's opponent would be Tavengwa Mukuhlani, who is representing the smaller test nations and associates.

In all possibility, Barclay will be elected once again, as he seems to have the support of 10-11 members out of the total of 16. Even one associate representative (Pankaj Khimji from Oman) is firmly in the BCCI camp. Mukuhlani needs a miracle to win the race. If Barclay wins again, then there maybe a return to the pig-3 (now pig-4) model of revenue distribution, which was originally implemented by the trio of Narayanaswami Srinivasan, Giles Clarke and Wally Edwards.

There is still fair amount of time left in filing the nomination tho.

Also, BCCI and Dada made their intentions clear that they are not interested, maybe the situation could change in the next month. A new form of revenue model will come for sure, the question is when? Realistically i think changes would come in the next 5 years or 8 years (next media rights window). Having said that this year December is going to be very crucial once the real numbers come out, this will set the tone for upcoming revenue drama.

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Some interesting developments regarding the election to the post of ICC chairman. Greg Barclay announced that he will run for the post once again, supported by all the pig-4 boards (BCCI, ECB, CA and CNZ). The BCCI actually pulled back the name of Sourav Ganguly, in favor of Barclay. From the other side, Imran Khwaja was initially interested, but he pulled out after it became clear that he doesn't have the necessary support. For the elections, Barclay's opponent would be Tavengwa Mukuhlani, who is representing the smaller test nations and associates.

In all possibility, Barclay will be elected once again, as he seems to have the support of 10-11 members out of the total of 16. Even one associate representative (Pankaj Khimji from Oman) is firmly in the BCCI camp. Mukuhlani needs a miracle to win the race. If Barclay wins again, then there maybe a return to the pig-3 (now pig-4) model of revenue distribution, which was originally implemented by the trio of Narayanaswami Srinivasan, Giles Clarke and Wally Edwards.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 03, 2022, 10:00:32 PM

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The controversy of Pakistan hosting the Asia Cup 2023 continued as India said it won't be participating in the tournament. Jay Shah clearly mentioned it was the government to give permission whether India needs to visit Pakistan or not. It is better to have a neutral venue. In this situation in a rally former Pakistan Prime Minister and cricketer got injured on gun firing. Once again India could indicate this incident which shouldn't have happened now.

After Imran Khan got shot at, the BCCI will once again raise the issue of security failure in Pakistan. PCB on the other hand will try to claim that it was an isolated incident and had nothing to do with terrorism. Political violence occurs in India as well, and what happened to Imran Khan was not something that was completely unexpected. But an attacker getting this close to a former prime minister and making an attempt on his life doesn't give a very good impression about the security situation in that country.

Here talking about Imran Khan shot is useless because I can give you 100% guarantee that Indian cricket team is not going to visit Pakistan for next few years because they have mindset, and it's not going to change in near future with most chances Pakistan will be surely going to visit India for next world cup because they have no option about this and ICC is also going to be on Indian side with If Pakistan will announce against this then surely they are going to lose funds which they can't afford anyhow.

Here political violence is never been good still things are not easy for these both countries specially after Narendra Modi's entry as Indian Prime Minister is surely big change for India and its policies which was never been good before this era he is doing right things and now world have to accept this all India is power, and they have to respect them.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 03, 2022, 10:00:32 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on November 03, 2022, 09:43:44 AM

The controversy of Pakistan hosting the Asia Cup 2023 continued as India said it won't be participating in the tournament. Jay Shah clearly mentioned it was the government to give permission whether India needs to visit Pakistan or not. It is better to have a neutral venue. In this situation in a rally former Pakistan Prime Minister and cricketer got injured on gun firing. Once again India could indicate this incident which shouldn't have happened now.

After Imran Khan got shot at, the BCCI will once again raise the issue of security failure in Pakistan. PCB on the other hand will try to claim that it was an isolated incident and had nothing to do with terrorism. Political violence occurs in India as well, and what happened to Imran Khan was not something that was completely unexpected. But an attacker getting this close to a former prime minister and making an attempt on his life doesn't give a very good impression about the security situation in that country.

Needless to say how weak the security of a country when such an attack takes place on a former Prime Minister. Various types of terrorist activities are being conducted in Pakistan since long ago. Which always comes up in the media. Moreover, the heinous terrorist attack on cricket is unprecedented. I think it is logical for anyone to express concern about the security issues for playing cricket in that country. They have to maintain peace and order in the country, Then something of international standard can be planned.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on November 03, 2022, 09:43:44 AM

The controversy of Pakistan hosting the Asia Cup 2023 continued as India said it won't be participating in the tournament. Jay Shah clearly mentioned it was the government to give permission whether India needs to visit Pakistan or not. It is better to have a neutral venue. In this situation in a rally former Pakistan Prime Minister and cricketer got injured on gun firing. Once again India could indicate this incident which shouldn't have happened now.

After Imran Khan got shot at, the BCCI will once again raise the issue of security failure in Pakistan. PCB on the other hand will try to claim that it was an isolated incident and had nothing to do with terrorism. Political violence occurs in India as well, and what happened to Imran Khan was not something that was completely unexpected. But an attacker getting this close to a former prime minister and making an attempt on his life doesn't give a very good impression about the security situation in that country.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2022, 11:35:52 PM

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As I've already pointed out in my previous posts, if they become citizens then there is nothing wrong with it (Barring direct appointees from the Gov -not kids-, the staff includes both sets of people Locals/foreigners, locals could be from any origin and it's fine too).

Spending is debatable and unexplored territory for obvious reasons but it shouldn't be much different from the existing setup, which is pouring money into the domestic grassroots infrastructure of cricket.

No one in their right minds would oppose the inclusion of naturalized citizens in any of the national teams. As a matter of fact, I am a big supporter of teams such as Netherlands and Namibia, whose playing XI consist of several individuals who recently received the passport of these respective countries (such as Ruben Trumpelmann and Brandon Glover). My issue is that ICC treats countries such as Netherlands (which has a cricketing history of more than 200 years and dozens of cricket clubs) and Norway (which doesn't have a single citizen in it's playing XI) in the same category.

Then i guess we both are on the same page.

Quote from: justdimin on November 03, 2022, 01:55:11 PM

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Pakistan and India are never going to live peacefully in near future which is not good for this region, but we have to accept this fact and looks into future because both are important countries and can play good role for the development of this game even now India is having the highest stake in last 15 years, but they are still not doing good for the game.

Umm, last i heard they were subsidizing test cricket (Barring for ECB-CA) and contributing funds to ICC's piggy bank, did this situation change in recent times? I wonder what else should they do to earn brownie points.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on November 03, 2022, 09:43:44 AM

The controversy of Pakistan hosting the Asia Cup 2023 continued as India said it won't be participating in the tournament. Jay Shah clearly mentioned it was the government to give permission whether India needs to visit Pakistan or not. It is better to have a neutral venue. In this situation in a rally former Pakistan Prime Minister and cricketer got injured on gun firing. Once again India could indicate this incident which shouldn't have happened now.

In current circumstances and presence of peoples which are currently in government of India most chances this event Asia Cup is going to be ended or if they agreed then surely we have some hope for better future as all stakeholders take decision that Asia Cup will never be held in India and Pakistan and others can organize as now we have few good grounds in the UAE, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka which is good for the game and development of cricket in this region.

Pakistan and India are never going to live peacefully in near future which is not good for this region, but we have to accept this fact and looks into future because both are important countries and can play good role for the development of this game even now India is having the highest stake in last 15 years, but they are still not doing good for the game.

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The controversy of Pakistan hosting the Asia Cup 2023 continued as India said it won't be participating in the tournament. Jay Shah clearly mentioned it was the government to give permission whether India needs to visit Pakistan or not. It is better to have a neutral venue. In this situation in a rally former Pakistan Prime Minister and cricketer got injured on gun firing. Once again India could indicate this incident which shouldn't have happened now.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 01, 2022, 11:22:00 PM

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As I've already pointed out in my previous posts, if they become citizens then there is nothing wrong with it (Barring direct appointees from the Gov -not kids-, the staff includes both sets of people Locals/foreigners, locals could be from any origin and it's fine too).

Spending is debatable and unexplored territory for obvious reasons but it shouldn't be much different from the existing setup, which is pouring money into the domestic grassroots infrastructure of cricket.

No one in their right minds would oppose the inclusion of naturalized citizens in any of the national teams. As a matter of fact, I am a big supporter of teams such as Netherlands and Namibia, whose playing XI consist of several individuals who recently received the passport of these respective countries (such as Ruben Trumpelmann and Brandon Glover). My issue is that ICC treats countries such as Netherlands (which has a cricketing history of more than 200 years and dozens of cricket clubs) and Norway (which doesn't have a single citizen in it's playing XI) in the same category.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 01, 2022, 09:03:21 PM

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It would be ignorance if we are saying that BCCI never faces any problems, it's just they don't cry about it in public but raise their voice in the right forum sometimes they win, sometimes they lose (pointing towards a new revenue system, everyone voted against them, rightly so) but they still manage to create new opportunities to make more money, look at how swiftly they extended IPL window in return, that I admire about BCCI despite their shady behavior.

Back to the main subject of equal distribution (more than 90 cricket boards). Hypothetically if it gets approved then I am positive PCB, AFC, BCB, SLC, CSA, NZC, and WICB will be bankrupt within 1-2 years and there would be zero test cricket in these countries. PIG-3 will suffer too but they can sustain themselves.

@JSRAW while people do criticise BCCI a lot including me, but what I do admire about them is they don’t make excuses and focus on finding solutions eg remember when covid happened they yet found a way to stage IPL and pay all board’s money earned from it. Furthermore those countries would happily go bankrupt rather than listen to BCCI proposal’s, and if that happens then I don’t think their citizens will forgive them hence I feel that they’ll back out of this proposal at the last moment as they too know that it’s a disastrous proposal.

Yup, BCCI does know how to make money, even in bad times and the way things are going then in the next decade they are going to demolish the old system for good. It could blow back on their face as well if something happens in Indian cricket, not outside pushback but within. All IPL franchises started claiming territories and BCCI could face some sort of challenges in the future but still IMO the trajectory is on an uptrend mode.

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Back to the main subject of equal distribution (more than 90 cricket boards). Hypothetically if it gets approved then I am positive PCB, AFC, BCB, SLC, CSA, NZC, and WICB will be bankrupt within 1-2 years and there would be zero test cricket in these countries. PIG-3 will suffer too but they can sustain themselves.
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At the most there are 25-30 countries where cricket is played. ICC has a membership of 100 plus, but in 70% to 75% of the cases, these are fake national teams entirely made of foreigners. Only countries such as Kenya and Nepal, where cricket is mostly played by natives should count. I have analyzed some of the "national" teams such as Czech Republic and Norway. These teams are entirely made up of medical students and embassy staff from the subcontinent. If they receive funding of ~10 million USD per year, how is it going to be spent? It can result in a condition even worse than what we have in Zimbabwe right now.

As I've already pointed out in my previous posts, if they become citizens then there is nothing wrong with it (Barring direct appointees from the Gov -not kids-, the staff includes both sets of people Locals/foreigners, locals could be from any origin and it's fine too).

Spending is debatable and unexplored territory for obvious reasons but it shouldn't be much different from the existing setup, which is pouring money into the domestic grassroots infrastructure of cricket.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 01, 2022, 02:23:22 PM

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Back to the main subject of equal distribution (more than 90 cricket boards). Hypothetically if it gets approved then I am positive PCB, AFC, BCB, SLC, CSA, NZC, and WICB will be bankrupt within 1-2 years and there would be zero test cricket in these countries. PIG-3 will suffer too but they can sustain themselves.
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At the most there are 25-30 countries where cricket is played. ICC has a membership of 100 plus, but in 70% to 75% of the cases, these are fake national teams entirely made of foreigners. Only countries such as Kenya and Nepal, where cricket is mostly played by natives should count. I have analyzed some of the "national" teams such as Czech Republic and Norway. These teams are entirely made up of medical students and embassy staff from the subcontinent. If they receive funding of ~10 million USD per year, how is it going to be spent? It can result in a condition even worse than what we have in Zimbabwe right now.

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Something that is happening now cannot be compared with something that happened 100 years ago because they are different events. The truth is that this is an absolutely bogus rule that, as far as I'm aware, only exists in cricket. I really do not believe that the national team should be made up of foreign players. There is no way that is fair for everyone in that situation.
In addition, if we talk about equal distribution of revenue, I don't think that it is going to happen because it is obvious that India will oppose any idea that promotes an equal distribution of revenue. This is because they are the ones who bring in the most revenue.

Migration only becoming easy in modern times and If they are naturalized then why it's an absurd idea? Middle eastern countries are on steroids due to their fuckery but in western sphere it's not a problem.

You making sound like only BCCI will object to this idea. Do other subcontinent cricketing boards have any sort of will despite being a freeloader or to some extent CSA, NZC?

BCCI is like the boss of cricket. Almost everything happens according to the plan that this set in motion. And when they oppose any idea, certainly other cricket boards are also going to join them.

But the thing is BCCI is not willing to say something unless that certain thing is creating a problem for them. Right now BCCI is yet to face any problems like that and that's why it's still being talked about. Doesn't matter if it's the issues of foreign players playing in the national team or equal distribution of revenue, the moment it starts causing BCCI problems, we will suddenly see cricket boards starting to oppose these ideas.

It would be ignorance if we are saying that BCCI never faces any problems, it's just they don't cry about it in public but raise their voice in the right forum sometimes they win, sometimes they lose (pointing towards a new revenue system, everyone voted against them, rightly so) but they still manage to create new opportunities to make more money, look at how swiftly they extended IPL window in return, that I admire about BCCI despite their shady behavior.

Back to the main subject of equal distribution (more than 90 cricket boards). Hypothetically if it gets approved then I am positive PCB, AFC, BCB, SLC, CSA, NZC, and WICB will be bankrupt within 1-2 years and there would be zero test cricket in these countries. PIG-3 will suffer too but they can sustain themselves.

@JSRAW while people do criticise BCCI a lot including me, but what I do admire about them is they don’t make excuses and focus on finding solutions eg remember when covid happened they yet found a way to stage IPL and pay all board’s money earned from it. Furthermore those countries would happily go bankrupt rather than listen to BCCI proposal’s, and if that happens then I don’t think their citizens will forgive them hence I feel that they’ll back out of this proposal at the last moment as they too know that it’s a disastrous proposal.

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Something that is happening now cannot be compared with something that happened 100 years ago because they are different events. The truth is that this is an absolutely bogus rule that, as far as I'm aware, only exists in cricket. I really do not believe that the national team should be made up of foreign players. There is no way that is fair for everyone in that situation.
In addition, if we talk about equal distribution of revenue, I don't think that it is going to happen because it is obvious that India will oppose any idea that promotes an equal distribution of revenue. This is because they are the ones who bring in the most revenue.

Migration only becoming easy in modern times and If they are naturalized then why it's an absurd idea? Middle eastern countries are on steroids due to their fuckery but in western sphere it's not a problem.

You making sound like only BCCI will object to this idea. Do other subcontinent cricketing boards have any sort of will despite being a freeloader or to some extent CSA, NZC?

BCCI is like the boss of cricket. Almost everything happens according to the plan that this set in motion. And when they oppose any idea, certainly other cricket boards are also going to join them.

But the thing is BCCI is not willing to say something unless that certain thing is creating a problem for them. Right now BCCI is yet to face any problems like that and that's why it's still being talked about. Doesn't matter if it's the issues of foreign players playing in the national team or equal distribution of revenue, the moment it starts causing BCCI problems, we will suddenly see cricket boards starting to oppose these ideas.

It would be ignorance if we are saying that BCCI never faces any problems, it's just they don't cry about it in public but raise their voice in the right forum sometimes they win, sometimes they lose (pointing towards a new revenue system, everyone voted against them, rightly so) but they still manage to create new opportunities to make more money, look at how swiftly they extended IPL window in return, that I admire about BCCI despite their shady behavior.

Back to the main subject of equal distribution (more than 90 cricket boards). Hypothetically if it gets approved then I am positive PCB, AFC, BCB, SLC, CSA, NZC, and WICB will be bankrupt within 1-2 years and there would be zero test cricket in these countries. PIG-3 will suffer too but they can sustain themselves.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 31, 2022, 10:06:55 AM

Quote from: Smack That Ace on October 31, 2022, 09:33:01 AM

Something that is happening now cannot be compared with something that happened 100 years ago because they are different events. The truth is that this is an absolutely bogus rule that, as far as I'm aware, only exists in cricket. I really do not believe that the national team should be made up of foreign players. There is no way that is fair for everyone in that situation.
In addition, if we talk about equal distribution of revenue, I don't think that it is going to happen because it is obvious that India will oppose any idea that promotes an equal distribution of revenue. This is because they are the ones who bring in the most revenue.

Migration only becoming easy in modern times and If they are naturalized then why it's an absurd idea? Middle eastern countries are on steroids due to their fuckery but in western sphere it's not a problem.

You making sound like only BCCI will object to this idea. Do other subcontinent cricketing boards have any sort of will despite being a freeloader or to some extent CSA, NZC?

BCCI is like the boss of cricket. Almost everything happens according to the plan that this set in motion. And when they oppose any idea, certainly other cricket boards are also going to join them.

But the thing is BCCI is not willing to say something unless that certain thing is creating a problem for them. Right now BCCI is yet to face any problems like that and that's why it's still being talked about. Doesn't matter if it's the issues of foreign players playing in the national team or equal distribution of revenue, the moment it starts causing BCCI problems, we will suddenly see cricket boards starting to oppose these ideas.

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Agreed, the religious extremists won't let the players to Pakistan. In simple the government which is running based on religion will try to do some politics out of it. This drama will continue, because within two years the election is scheduled. Jay Shah who is the son of Amit Shah, so what the ruling government orders will be revealed through his mouth. Lets wait and see, once some incident took place and for the same we can't mark the country to be the same all the time.

Do you believe that the stance will change, in case someone from the opposition replaces Jay Shah? The blanket ban on touring Pakistan was imposed when the current opposition (UPA) was in power. The NDA just continued with the same policy. And IMO, an NDA government is more likely to approve cricket tours to Pakistan when compared to UPA, since the latter is already under pressure for their soft stance against extremism. But then, Jay Shah seems to be one of the hawks within the NDA appointed administrators. Someone like Anurag Thakur maybe more favorable to resuming cricket ties with Pakistan.

I don't think it makes any difference at all if the authority changes. There is no doubt that the authority's hatred for Pakistan will remain constant. This has been going on since 1947. Times have advanced, but the mindset of people has not. The differences between people are exploited greatly by politicians. I don't think it is going to change anything if the authority gets changed. Pakistan is still going to suffer. Unless there is any benefit for the BCCI they are always liable to oppose anything constructive happening in Pakistan cricket.

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Quote from: n0ne on October 31, 2022, 03:28:39 PM

Agreed, the religious extremists won't let the players to Pakistan. In simple the government which is running based on religion will try to do some politics out of it. This drama will continue, because within two years the election is scheduled. Jay Shah who is the son of Amit Shah, so what the ruling government orders will be revealed through his mouth. Lets wait and see, once some incident took place and for the same we can't mark the country to be the same all the time.

Do you believe that the stance will change, in case someone from the opposition replaces Jay Shah? The blanket ban on touring Pakistan was imposed when the current opposition (UPA) was in power. The NDA just continued with the same policy. And IMO, an NDA government is more likely to approve cricket tours to Pakistan when compared to UPA, since the latter is already under pressure for their soft stance against extremism. But then, Jay Shah seems to be one of the hawks within the NDA appointed administrators. Someone like Anurag Thakur maybe more favorable to resuming cricket ties with Pakistan.

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Quote from: bitgov on October 31, 2022, 02:10:04 PM

a part from security - INdian would always be denying to travel to Pakistan - be it politicians - players or artists.
But Pakistani celebrities do visit India - I think the religious extremist do not let the Indians go to Pakistan.

Agreed, the religious extremists won't let the players to Pakistan. In simple the government which is running based on religion will try to do some politics out of it. This drama will continue, because within two years the election is scheduled. Jay Shah who is the son of Amit Shah, so what the ruling government orders will be revealed through his mouth. Lets wait and see, once some incident took place and for the same we can't mark the country to be the same all the time.

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Pakistan cricket board along with the government will give the best security. Whenever there is a schedule between India and Pakistan, the same will be promoted in all possible means. Look at today's match, the ground is full. The host nation is Australia and for its match we can't expect the same crowd. For the betterment of Pakistan cricket, they are in need of hosting Asia Cup. The discussion will not come to an end, and Pakistan won't be hosting the league.

In the end, it comes to security. If countries such as England and Australia are ready to visit Pakistan, then India can't give any excuse other than the lack of permission to do so from the central government. PCB will be in a dilemma. If India doesn't visit Pakistan, then the TV revenues and sponsorship will go down. PCB needs the support from smaller boards and then they should approach the ICC. If BCCI refuses to visit Pakistan, then the latter should claim reimbursement of the losses from the Indians.

@Sithara007 I believe that Pakistan has passed the security tests, and if I’m correct even an Indian delegation is allowed to travel ahead and check the security arrangements, and thus I feel that security is no longer an excuse that BCCI can use. Furthermore I feel that BCCI will happily pay the compensation but they won’t pay the full amount asked, because I’m expecting them to negotiate and lower the compensation amount.

a part from security - INdian would always be denying to travel to Pakistan - be it politicians - players or artists.
But Pakistani celebrities do visit India - I think the religious extremist do not let the Indians go to Pakistan.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 24, 2022, 11:45:14 PM

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Pakistan cricket board along with the government will give the best security. Whenever there is a schedule between India and Pakistan, the same will be promoted in all possible means. Look at today's match, the ground is full. The host nation is Australia and for its match we can't expect the same crowd. For the betterment of Pakistan cricket, they are in need of hosting Asia Cup. The discussion will not come to an end, and Pakistan won't be hosting the league.

In the end, it comes to security. If countries such as England and Australia are ready to visit Pakistan, then India can't give any excuse other than the lack of permission to do so from the central government. PCB will be in a dilemma. If India doesn't visit Pakistan, then the TV revenues and sponsorship will go down. PCB needs the support from smaller boards and then they should approach the ICC. If BCCI refuses to visit Pakistan, then the latter should claim reimbursement of the losses from the Indians.

@Sithara007 I believe that Pakistan has passed the security tests, and if I’m correct even an Indian delegation is allowed to travel ahead and check the security arrangements, and thus I feel that security is no longer an excuse that BCCI can use. Furthermore I feel that BCCI will happily pay the compensation but they won’t pay the full amount asked, because I’m expecting them to negotiate and lower the compensation amount.

a part from security - INdian would always be denying to travel to Pakistan - be it politicians - players or artists.
But Pakistani celebrities do visit India - I think the religious extremist do not let the Indians go to Pakistan.

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Look at it that way.

100 years back British officers and nationals used to feature in Indian, Australian and SA teams (although it was amateur level) regularly so building teams and cricket culture through migration is a process IMO. This might look dodgy at the start when compared to a team with local players but in a long term, this should help at least for a few countries.

Something that is happening now cannot be compared with something that happened 100 years ago because they are different events. The truth is that this is an absolutely bogus rule that, as far as I'm aware, only exists in cricket. I really do not believe that the national team should be made up of foreign players. There is no way that is fair for everyone in that situation.

In addition, if we talk about equal distribution of revenue, I don't think that it is going to happen because it is obvious that India will oppose any idea that promotes an equal distribution of revenue. This is because they are the ones who bring in the most revenue.

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Migration only becoming easy in modern times and If they are naturalized then why it's an absurd idea? Middle eastern countries are on steroids due to their fuckery but in western sphere it's not a problem.

You making sound like only BCCI will object to this idea. Do other subcontinent cricketing boards have any sort of will despite being a freeloader or to some extent CSA, NZC?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 29, 2022, 09:27:22 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2022, 04:24:19 AM

Personally, I am in favor of equal distribution of revenue among all members, not just full test nation but associates too. But we know if it happens then the very same test nations who complain about BCCI on daily basis will strike down this proposal because it'll directly affect their pocket too.

I am also in favor of equal revenue distribution. But then, there is a counter argument to this. Look at the so called "national teams" in Europe and West Asia. Most of them are 100% comprised of medical students, expat businessmen and even tourists. Do you believe that allotting millions of USD to such teams would be a good idea? If that happens, then half of all the first class cricketers in India will pack up their bags and move to European and Middle Eastern countries the next day. Funding for associate countries should be increased only if the team is comprised of citizens.

Look at it that way.

100 years back British officers and nationals used to feature in Indian, Australian and SA teams (although it was amateur level) regularly so building teams and cricket culture through migration is a process IMO. This might look dodgy at the start when compared to a team with local players but in a long term, this should help at least for a few countries.

Something that is happening now cannot be compared with something that happened 100 years ago because they are different events. The truth is that this is an absolutely bogus rule that, as far as I'm aware, only exists in cricket. I really do not believe that the national team should be made up of foreign players. There is no way that is fair for everyone in that situation.

In addition, if we talk about equal distribution of revenue, I don't think that it is going to happen because it is obvious that India will oppose any idea that promotes an equal distribution of revenue. This is because they are the ones who bring in the most revenue.

Regards

Duke

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