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Quote from: JSRAW on July 20, 2019, 03:07:10 AM

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One such addition was brought in from the 4th edition of the IPL, ie, in the year 2011. Teams finishing in the top 4 would qualify for the playoff round. Earlier there used to be the two conventional semi-finals just after the group stage, this meant that all the 4 teams had equal chances of making it to the final. This somehow was unfair to the teams who finished in the top 2 during the league. The tremendous tournament until the group stage wouldn’t matter, as one loss in the semi-final would bring down curtains to their campaign.

The concept of playoffs brought an extra game before the final. This meant that 3 games would be played before the finalists are decided. First, a semifinal game would be played between the number 1 and number 2 teams. The winner of the two games would go straight into the final. The loser though would not be out of contention.

Next, an eliminator game would be played between the number 3 and number 4 teams. The loser will get knocked out of the tournament. The winner would go on to play in the second qualifier against the losing team of the first qualifier. Now the winner of this game would qualify for the final.

I totally agree with you. I am still amazed to see ICC following archaic traditions when leagues like the IPL are adopting much better systems in order to provide improve fairness across the board.

This is why I appreciate sports like NBA and FIFA where the teams which win more points or the teams which win best of 5 rounds etc are judged final winners. The ICC needs to adopt similar formats in the future and improve the current archaic Cricket format.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on July 19, 2019, 11:24:30 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 18, 2019, 10:27:20 AM

By the way, I am just curious to discuss about Ben Stokes innings in the final match. He had a dashing world cup. Not many player can play an inning like that. His inning had a good combination of luck and skills. Fortune favored the brave.

Do you know Stokes innings is ever highest for England in a world cup final? The previous highest was 63, can't remember the exact name of that player. He played an excellent innings by the way.

It was Ben strokes who ensured that England reached the super over or stand a chance to win the World cup because his innings came at a very crucial time and that too under lot of pressure of the world cup final. He deserves a lot of credit for his batting

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We used to have T-20 thread for international games, or not? i take this thread as a Red ball cricket- Test match Discussion.

Oh yes!
I almost forgot about that LOL

Here: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion

The separate thread for World cup and IPL almost lost this thread. I am sure it's gonna get the life back with this India vs WI series.

I hope so, India is schedule to play 4 t-20 match against windies. light em up (the thread not any team Tongue

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Quote from: Pffrt on July 20, 2019, 12:47:25 AM

If you say India deserves the world cup, that will be wrong. India proved themselves as poor team. They weren't able to score good by middle order in any of their game, other than the one vs NZ which was also not impressive. Jadeja doesn't fall into middle order as well, he player at lower order. So, as a team, India failed in all of their matches to perform a world cup deserving.

I have to agree with @Haunebu Cheesy

despite a poor performance by Indian middle order. India was a solid contender that's why they topped the point table, its not an easy feat. One bad day and you are out of World Cup race. Here I like IPL playoff format. Please check it out it makes more sense when the World Cup is at stake.

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One such addition was brought in from the 4th edition of the IPL, ie, in the year 2011. Teams finishing in the top 4 would qualify for the playoff round. Earlier there used to be the two conventional semi-finals just after the group stage, this meant that all the 4 teams had equal chances of making it to the final. This somehow was unfair to the teams who finished in the top 2 during the league. The tremendous tournament until the group stage wouldn’t matter, as one loss in the semi-final would bring down curtains to their campaign.

The concept of playoffs brought an extra game before the final. This meant that 3 games would be played before the finalists are decided. First, a semifinal game would be played between the number 1 and number 2 teams. The winner of the two games would go straight into the final. The loser though would not be out of contention.

Next, an eliminator game would be played between the number 3 and number 4 teams. The loser will get knocked out of the tournament. The winner would go on to play in the second qualifier against the losing team of the first qualifier. Now the winner of this game would qualify for the final.

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Quote from: Pffrt on July 20, 2019, 12:47:25 AM

So, as a team, India failed in all of their matches to perform a world cup deserving.

Hilarious. The team on top of the league standings does not deserve the World Cup? Lol. India deserved the World Cup just as much as any other team out there. 45 minutes of poor Cricket does not sum up their overall performance.

England were the best performers followed by India, Australia and New Zealand in my opinion. They have been the strongest subcontinent team for sometime now and they will most likely return with a roar.

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Quote from: Patatas on July 19, 2019, 03:15:28 PM

As a player yes, he did play well. As a team, they didn't deserve the cup neither did the kiwis. I wish Austalia or India could have won as these are the strongest teams out there. Nz clearly didn't belong there, they played the worst game for a cricket team playing in the finals.

If you say India deserves the world cup, that will be wrong. India proved themselves as poor team. They weren't able to score good by middle order in any of their game, other than the one vs NZ which was also not impressive. Jadeja doesn't fall into middle order as well, he player at lower order. So, as a team, India failed in all of their matches to perform a world cup deserving.

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Quote from: vella85 on July 19, 2019, 05:54:22 PM

England will play a one test match series coming up against Ireland, it will be interesting to see this match as Ireland have been doing well in test matches and if I remember correctly they pushed England the last time they played. The Ashes start in 11 days so this will be a good warm up match for England while Australia are playing a second rate team in their warm up match.

If I am not wrong, the venue is Lord's Cricket Ground in London. Ireland will be pushing hard for an upset win. They don't get these sort of opportunities regularly. This is their first test match against a top-10 side for more than a year. So they will be satisfied with nothing less than a win, which can result in a huge boost to their financial situation.

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England will play a one test match series coming up against Ireland, it will be interesting to see this match as Ireland have been doing well in test matches and if I remember correctly they pushed England the last time they played. The Ashes start in 11 days so this will be a good warm up match for England while Australia are playing a second rate team in their warm up match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 19, 2019, 09:54:45 AM

We used to have T-20 thread for international games, or not? i take this thread as a Red ball cricket- Test match Discussion.

Oh yes!
I almost forgot about that LOL

Here: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion

The separate thread for World cup and IPL almost lost this thread. I am sure it's gonna get the life back with this India vs WI series.

Quote from: tsaroz on July 19, 2019, 09:56:24 AM

I never understood why Dhoni was striped off of captaincy. He was the most successful captain India team ever had. Kohli on the other hand misses what I look for in leadership. He is always being surrounded by some controversy and is infamous with his temper.

Age. He is a senior player and eventually a new young guy needs the place and the change has a transition period. So it was given to Kohli while Dhoni is around.

Quote from: Little Mouse on July 19, 2019, 11:24:30 AM

Do you know Stokes innings is ever highest for England in a world cup final? The previous highest was 63, can't remember the exact name of that player. He played an excellent innings by the way.

That's a good achievement. I never knew that. Good to learn it.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on July 19, 2019, 11:24:30 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 18, 2019, 10:27:20 AM

By the way, I am just curious to discuss about Ben Stokes innings in the final match. He had a dashing world cup. Not many player can play an inning like that. His inning had a good combination of luck and skills. Fortune favored the brave.

Do you know Stokes innings is ever highest for England in a world cup final? The previous highest was 63, can't remember the exact name of that player. He played an excellent innings by the way.

As a player yes, he did play well. As a team, they didn't deserve the cup neither did the kiwis. I wish Austalia or India could have won as these are the strongest teams out there. Nz clearly didn't belong there, they played the worst game for a cricket team playing in the finals.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 18, 2019, 10:27:20 AM

By the way, I am just curious to discuss about Ben Stokes innings in the final match. He had a dashing world cup. Not many player can play an inning like that. His inning had a good combination of luck and skills. Fortune favored the brave.

Do you know Stokes innings is ever highest for England in a world cup final? The previous highest was 63, can't remember the exact name of that player. He played an excellent innings by the way.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 18, 2019, 10:27:20 AM

Ah! Good to be back here. I have locked the prediction pool. Thanks guys.

Back to the regular conversation, seems like we are going for Ashes talk? English team is in their pick after winning the world cup and I am sure this Ashes will be more interesting then some of the recent series. Both Australia and English team are most likely have the same strength.

By the way, I am just curious to discuss about Ben Stokes innings in the final match. He had a dashing world cup. Not many player can play an inning like that. His inning had a good combination of luck and skills. Fortune favored the brave.

Yes, you are right it is very good opportunity for him to show case his ability in this world cup and specially final world cup match, what an innings played but the Been stokes. In most of the cases he is very lucky and England got the world cup because of benstokes.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 19, 2019, 09:23:11 AM

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West Indies may be having the home advantage and they may be able to surprise the Indians if all of their super-stars turn up for the matches. A star-studded playing XI, which includes Gayle, Pollard, Russel, Bravo, Lewis.etc may prove to be a tough nut to crack for the Indians. Some of their bowlers, especially the pacers like Cottrell, Roach and Thomas has the ability to trouble the Indian batting lineup.

This T20 series will be an entertaining one. WI are master in T20 so we won't see a broken West Indies like we have seen in the World Cup.

Now I have seen some news about Kohli's captaincy to be replaced by Rohit. Not sure if the news is really a news but if that's true then I think they should not do it. India only played a bad match in the semi. For any team a bad day is common. Except the semi, they played world class cricket in the World Cup. It's a winning team with a very young and talented captain.

I never understood why Dhoni was striped off of captaincy. He was the most successful captain India team ever had. Kohli on the other hand misses what I look for in leadership. He is always being surrounded by some controversy and is infamous with his temper.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 19, 2019, 09:23:11 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 19, 2019, 09:12:52 AM

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West Indies may be having the home advantage and they may be able to surprise the Indians if all of their super-stars turn up for the matches. A star-studded playing XI, which includes Gayle, Pollard, Russel, Bravo, Lewis.etc may prove to be a tough nut to crack for the Indians. Some of their bowlers, especially the pacers like Cottrell, Roach and Thomas has the ability to trouble the Indian batting lineup.

This T20 series will be an entertaining one. WI are master in T20 so we won't see a broken West Indies like we have seen in the World Cup.

Now I have seen some news about Kohli's captaincy to be replaced by Rohit. Not sure if the news is really a news but if that's true then I think they should not do it. India only played a bad match in the semi. For any team a bad day is common. Except the semi, they played world class cricket in the World Cup. It's a winning team with a very young and talented captain.

We used to have T-20 thread for international games, or not? i take this thread as a Red ball cricket- Test match Discussion.

About Virat's Captaincy, yeah there is one section which is talking about this, typically and historically I was very against his captaincy style and expressed my feeling in real life and here as well Cheesy

but I have to admit in recent World Cup. He performed well as a captain, starting from Warm-up match against Kiwis.

What India needs is influential selection committee who can stand up against Virat Cheesy

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 19, 2019, 09:12:52 AM

~snip~

West Indies may be having the home advantage and they may be able to surprise the Indians if all of their super-stars turn up for the matches. A star-studded playing XI, which includes Gayle, Pollard, Russel, Bravo, Lewis.etc may prove to be a tough nut to crack for the Indians. Some of their bowlers, especially the pacers like Cottrell, Roach and Thomas has the ability to trouble the Indian batting lineup.

This T20 series will be an entertaining one. WI are master in T20 so we won't see a broken West Indies like we have seen in the World Cup.

Now I have seen some news about Kohli's captaincy to be replaced by Rohit. Not sure if the news is really a news but if that's true then I think they should not do it. India only played a bad match in the semi. For any team a bad day is common. Except the semi, they played world class cricket in the World Cup. It's a winning team with a very young and talented captain.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 18, 2019, 12:40:26 PM

Surprising that the ongoing discussion is limited to the upcoming Ashes series. No one is interested in the Indian tour of West Indies? The first T20 is scheduled in around two weeks from now and the surprise is that the venue for the first match is Lauderhill in Florida (Central Broward Regional Park Stadium Turf Ground). ICC want to make some revenue from the Indian diaspora in the US.

Maybe because WI ain't really a competition for India so there might not be much interest in this series. The only way I can see interest in this series is if the WI can perform like they did when England toured the WI earlier this year, if they can perform well and give India a challenge then I think a lot of us here will be talking about the series. The Ashes have always been big so that gets all the attention.

West Indies may be having the home advantage and they may be able to surprise the Indians if all of their super-stars turn up for the matches. A star-studded playing XI, which includes Gayle, Pollard, Russel, Bravo, Lewis.etc may prove to be a tough nut to crack for the Indians. Some of their bowlers, especially the pacers like Cottrell, Roach and Thomas has the ability to trouble the Indian batting lineup.

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Quote from: vella85 on July 18, 2019, 06:02:54 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 18, 2019, 12:40:26 PM

Surprising that the ongoing discussion is limited to the upcoming Ashes series. No one is interested in the Indian tour of West Indies? The first T20 is scheduled in around two weeks from now and the surprise is that the venue for the first match is Lauderhill in Florida (Central Broward Regional Park Stadium Turf Ground). ICC want to make some revenue from the Indian diaspora in the US.

Maybe because WI ain't really a competition for India so there might not be much interest in this series. The only way I can see interest in this series is if the WI can perform like they did when England toured the WI earlier this year, if they can perform well and give India a challenge then I think a lot of us here will be talking about the series. The Ashes have always been big so that gets all the attention.

The series between India and west indies will be very interesting I think, I mean only T20 matches will be interesting. Most of the t20 specialist are in west indies team so any time west indies can defeat India in T20. So personally I will wait for the day when the T20 matches will go to the field.

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My point of view on this is BCCI should look forward and beyond Dhoni now and give Dhoni Farewell match in Wankhede or Ranchi.

I disagree. One of the main reasons I(And many others) watch cricket is to watch this legend play which is why I hope that he continues playing for a long period of time in ODIs and T20s.

Well, that's the problem with us ( Subcontinent fans) Tongue

we don't want our fav players to retire gracefully at the end of his career.

I believe that he should retire from ODI and mentor junior players so that new crop can be ready for the next ODI World Cup, he's not going to play next ODI world cup anyway so national team matter most in comparison of any individual. There are still some juice left in him if we look at T-20 format, so I don't mind him playing till next T-20 World Cup.

In the end its Dhoni's decision to retire or not. But believe me, when I say this, he's going to tarnish his reputation to some extent. If he continues to play without performing in the International platform, happens with everyone - no biggie-.

This is the exact reason why he gave up his captaincy to help Kohli get used to the new role way before the World Cup. Honestly, his reputation just keeps getting bigger and better with time(Just ask the CSK fans even though I am not a CSK fan myself).

Even if he does not play in the next World Cup, I would still like to see him play until he himself decides to retire. I still see him providing great entertainment value for an year or more.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 19, 2019, 01:55:05 AM

My point of view on this is BCCI should look forward and beyond Dhoni now and give Dhoni Farewell match in Wankhede or Ranchi.

I disagree. One of the main reasons I(And many others) watch cricket is to watch this legend play which is why I hope that he continues playing for a long period of time in ODIs and T20s.

Well, that's the problem with us ( Subcontinent fans) Tongue

we don't want our fav players to retire gracefully at the end of his career.

I believe that he should retire from ODI and mentor junior players so that new crop can be ready for the next ODI World Cup, he's not going to play next ODI world cup anyway so national team matter most in comparison of any individual. There are still some juice left in him if we look at T-20 format, so I don't mind him playing till next T-20 World Cup.

In the end its Dhoni's decision to retire or not. But believe me, when I say this, he's going to tarnish his reputation to some extent. If he continues to play without performing in the International platform, happens with everyone - no biggie-.

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Maybe because WI ain't really a competition for India so there might not be much interest in this series.

Don't forget that it's t20 and anything can happen. Moreover, West Indies used to play better in t20 as well as against India. Their team is not perfect but will not be easy for a team like India.

Yes, West Indies play good cricket when it comes to T20, but they'll never have consistency which is the issue. They play one match extremely good and the following match very worse. In the world cup matches too same happened,. Now in the T20 they might give their best to defeat India, but India on the other hand won't let it win easily.

India has good bowling attacks than WI including Bumra, Chahal, Bhuvi as well as Kuldeep. India of course has high chance of winning the match, but in t20, 2 or 3 overs can change the direction of a game.

T20 I would give it to WI because they are very strong when it comes to limited overs match and have a strong batting line up who can clear the boundaries at their own will . India on other hand is good in the test match and 50 overs match.

Even in T20 they are not that great because mostly time they like to play like it is their life last ball so they must be hit 6, 1 of the reason of their failure in WC, if they did used their mind who knows what had happenned, they lost atleast 3 match in WC because of carelessness of their attitude.

They will play same in T20 too and will lost if they won't get good score.

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Quote from: monalia on July 18, 2019, 01:07:02 PM

I have read news today ICC gave the reasons for the 6 runs decision for Ben Stokes in the final over which lead England to win the match that day fortunately.
We must know whether there is some gambling behind this or something.

That whole situation is messed up in so many ways. How in the world do umpires continue messing up so badly even with such rapid technological developments? Cricket umpiring standards have seriously fallen over the years.

Quote from: JSRAW on July 19, 2019, 01:55:05 AM

My point of view on this is BCCI should look forward and beyond Dhoni now and give Dhoni Farewell match in Wankhede or Ranchi.

I disagree. One of the main reasons I(And many others) watch cricket is to watch this legend play which is why I hope that he continues playing for a long period of time in ODIs and T20s.

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