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Quote from: SATWAT on December 24, 2023, 03:47:27 PM

When you have no strong case in any organization and your money is also not works then things like these happen easily, I really appreciate ITF and its decision.

Hopefully now Indian will be also skipped this tour because this is already rejected by ITF and its tribunal as well so if they will not tour then they will be going into Davis Cup group 2 and Pakistan will be stayed in this group as winner.

https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/tennis/aita-loses-appeal-in-itf-tribunal-indian-davis-cup-team-will-have-to-travel-to-pakistan-2823399

Well, India won't be touring to Pakistan to play any sports whether it be cricket or tennis. I do not know the influence of ITF, but if we talk about cricket then ICC will definitely favor India and they will try their best to host the tournaments outside Pakistan even those which were planned to be hosted by Pakistan. They would not want an India to miss out on any tournament only because they can't visit Pakistan, rather they will move the tournament outside Pakistan and if Pakistan does not want to play, it doesn't matter to them.

Last time, the Indian tennis team visited Pakistan was back in 1964 and they won the series too but since then a lot has changed and now Indians have become a mighty giant in terms of ownership and resources of ICC.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 26, 2023, 12:50:32 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 25, 2023, 03:58:05 AM

@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.

LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.

Maybe it's right time for you to laugh and have enjoyment because ICC is doing things which are not ideal for the sport and also for their good future with they are messing and creating problems for the development of the game as well because as we are watching if other sports organizations are doing fair things then why they are not eligible for this all even they can do without any problem and also here India needs to act as better partner of these sports and organization.

PCB is not strong enough to do anything with current ICC setup and due to pressure of BCCI but still many other and positive ways are possible to have this all without any third-party involvement, but they need to put their ego and pride behind which is really need of the time as well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 26, 2023, 12:50:32 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 25, 2023, 03:58:05 AM

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LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.

Compensation drama would be some fun for bystanders and it will surely provide some meme content so i am in for this scenario and will grab my popcorn lol

The last time PCB followed the compensation narrative, it blew back in their face and they ended up wasting millions only to lose a case and had to pay for all BCCI's expenses. Having said that, this time they might have some case because it's an ICC tournament but they have to play their cards right.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 26, 2023, 02:55:34 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 26, 2023, 12:50:32 AM

LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.

@Sithara007 the hybrid model turned out expensive for Pakistan if I remember correctly because there was a report which said that they had to pay a lot for the constant travelling. Further a compensation can be a good deal for them but it’ll also signal the end for any future ICC event which involves team India to be hosted there hence their best bet is to squeeze the maximum they can when ICC proposes the compensation idea.

I think in the end a hybrid model is actually what is going to end up happening. Because I don't think ICC can actually afford to not let India play. They are bringing the bread home for the ICC so to speak. And if ICC doesn't favour the breadwinner of the house, it is definitely going to be a problem. The viewership is going to be low. Icc doesn't want that. Probably the solution is going to be making a hybrid model and not giving any Indian matches in Pakistan. That is probably going to be the solution. But I don't think Pakistan is going to be very happy about that.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 26, 2023, 12:50:32 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 25, 2023, 03:58:05 AM

@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.

LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.

@Sithara007 the hybrid model turned out expensive for Pakistan if I remember correctly because there was a report which said that they had to pay a lot for the constant travelling. Further a compensation can be a good deal for them but it’ll also signal the end for any future ICC event which involves team India to be hosted there hence their best bet is to squeeze the maximum they can when ICC proposes the compensation idea.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 25, 2023, 03:58:05 AM

@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.

LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 25, 2023, 03:58:05 AM

Quote from: SATWAT on December 23, 2023, 05:36:49 PM

Quote from: synchronym on December 23, 2023, 08:23:49 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on December 20, 2023, 11:32:41 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2023, 09:48:09 AM

Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.

The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.

I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.

With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.

This issue has arisen with Pakistan hosting the 2025 Championship Trophy as India will not be playing the Pakistan Championship Trophy. That's because they won't go to play Pakistan due to their political opposition with Pakistan and India. All desi Pakistanis in the world went to play India will not go. Of course India will try to find an alternative for that because we have seen that India and Pakistan had a few matches in the Asia Cup but they didn't play there. So it is doubted by all that India will not participate to play Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan. Maybe India will shift their matches to some other venue they are claiming to play their matches in UAE. We now have to wait for some more time to see if India will play Pakistan in the 2025 Championship Toffee.

Currently, ICC having their own agenda just because of this we have green signal for the Pakistan from them about ICC Champions Trophy as I already mentioned many twists are coming in coming months with one thing is sure India is not coming to Pakistan for playing cricket it's 100% sure and now what will do ICC things will be clear in near future with most chances they will also go with India because currently in cricket we have all biased system which is going with India due to huge funds and finances.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.

@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.

No one screaming because in Pakistan mostly peoples are now understood ICC is not a sports organization it's just mafia which is controlled by BCCI with their money so if we have to keep things like this going in future this is not ideal for the game even no one is standing against this but still now all world is looking how they are doing just because of their media war and propaganda FIFA and not ITF already clear Pakistan for all games and countries are coming and playing without any problem.
So this is also fact IPL money is working, and they are enjoying with this all just because of this ICC is also not working for the development of this game as they are now also wanted strong hold of India on this game due to deep pockets.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 25, 2023, 03:58:05 AM

Quote from: SATWAT on December 23, 2023, 05:36:49 PM

Quote from: synchronym on December 23, 2023, 08:23:49 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on December 20, 2023, 11:32:41 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2023, 09:48:09 AM

Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.

The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.

I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.

With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.

This issue has arisen with Pakistan hosting the 2025 Championship Trophy as India will not be playing the Pakistan Championship Trophy. That's because they won't go to play Pakistan due to their political opposition with Pakistan and India. All desi Pakistanis in the world went to play India will not go. Of course India will try to find an alternative for that because we have seen that India and Pakistan had a few matches in the Asia Cup but they didn't play there. So it is doubted by all that India will not participate to play Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan. Maybe India will shift their matches to some other venue they are claiming to play their matches in UAE. We now have to wait for some more time to see if India will play Pakistan in the 2025 Championship Toffee.

Currently, ICC having their own agenda just because of this we have green signal for the Pakistan from them about ICC Champions Trophy as I already mentioned many twists are coming in coming months with one thing is sure India is not coming to Pakistan for playing cricket it's 100% sure and now what will do ICC things will be clear in near future with most chances they will also go with India because currently in cricket we have all biased system which is going with India due to huge funds and finances.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.

@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.

op I agree with you because if Pakistan makes this proposal to ICC again and again it will not work. If India doesn't want them not to play in Pakistan then ICC will be seen at some stage to arrange them in the place where India will play that is the job of ICC. However, by doing this, ICC is destroying the beauty of cricket itself. Because if every country in the world expresses interest to play in Pakistan, why won't India play? If Pakistan can come to India and play, then why can't India play in Pakistan? This would have been possible only if the ICC had been neutral. If India doesn't play Pakistan in the championship, then it will be understood that ICC is never impartial.

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Quote from: SATWAT on December 23, 2023, 05:36:49 PM

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2023, 09:48:09 AM

Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.

The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.

I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.

With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.

This issue has arisen with Pakistan hosting the 2025 Championship Trophy as India will not be playing the Pakistan Championship Trophy. That's because they won't go to play Pakistan due to their political opposition with Pakistan and India. All desi Pakistanis in the world went to play India will not go. Of course India will try to find an alternative for that because we have seen that India and Pakistan had a few matches in the Asia Cup but they didn't play there. So it is doubted by all that India will not participate to play Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan. Maybe India will shift their matches to some other venue they are claiming to play their matches in UAE. We now have to wait for some more time to see if India will play Pakistan in the 2025 Championship Toffee.

Currently, ICC having their own agenda just because of this we have green signal for the Pakistan from them about ICC Champions Trophy as I already mentioned many twists are coming in coming months with one thing is sure India is not coming to Pakistan for playing cricket it's 100% sure and now what will do ICC things will be clear in near future with most chances they will also go with India because currently in cricket we have all biased system which is going with India due to huge funds and finances.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.

@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.

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When you have no strong case in any organization and your money is also not works then things like these happen easily, I really appreciate ITF and its decision.

Hopefully now Indian will be also skipped this tour because this is already rejected by ITF and its tribunal as well so if they will not tour then they will be going into Davis Cup group 2 and Pakistan will be stayed in this group as winner.

https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/tennis/aita-loses-appeal-in-itf-tribunal-indian-davis-cup-team-will-have-to-travel-to-pakistan-2823399

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Quote from: GigaBit on December 23, 2023, 01:47:11 PM

Quote from: synchronym on December 16, 2023, 02:52:26 PM

op I agree with you. That's because if a country is poor then first of all the government of that country will think about how its people are well. First, the government of the country where there is poverty will try to provide good employment to its people. Then the government should first look at various aspects of education system and medical field. Then comes the cricket, they will consider the cricket of the poor country a little later.

Poor countries don't want to invest in a sport like cricket to the exclusion of other important activities. If a country plays good cricket but is lagging behind in cricket due to lack of funding, then alternative measures would have been taken for them. But what we see in recent times is that the country which is poor is not good at cricket. Let's talk about Zimbabwe cricket, the cricket board of that country is not able to support the cricketers as much as they expect. But if ICC had played a role in all these cases then cricket would have been more competitive. But I think ICC has no focus on that.

We have no issue of poor or rich because now many things are going wide open with sports is having huge share in many countries industries and things are getting changes so as we have more than 200 soccer leagues and all are giving their best and soccer is also having huge success we can bring same here in cricket as well but it is never been easy with it is also time-consuming but here main problem is ICC which is not helping countries and going through with their fixed agenda which is never been helpful for the development of this game.

From now, they need to go through for T20i leagues in few countries and helped them with their domestic setup and other things as well, but they are having just few things which are circulating around them, and they are running for their personal interest with this all recently we have good development in African region and few Asian countries which is surely going to bring better things in near future.

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Quote from: synchronym on December 23, 2023, 08:23:49 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on December 20, 2023, 11:32:41 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2023, 09:48:09 AM

Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.

The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.

I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.

With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.

This issue has arisen with Pakistan hosting the 2025 Championship Trophy as India will not be playing the Pakistan Championship Trophy. That's because they won't go to play Pakistan due to their political opposition with Pakistan and India. All desi Pakistanis in the world went to play India will not go. Of course India will try to find an alternative for that because we have seen that India and Pakistan had a few matches in the Asia Cup but they didn't play there. So it is doubted by all that India will not participate to play Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan. Maybe India will shift their matches to some other venue they are claiming to play their matches in UAE. We now have to wait for some more time to see if India will play Pakistan in the 2025 Championship Toffee.

Currently, ICC having their own agenda just because of this we have green signal for the Pakistan from them about ICC Champions Trophy as I already mentioned many twists are coming in coming months with one thing is sure India is not coming to Pakistan for playing cricket it's 100% sure and now what will do ICC things will be clear in near future with most chances they will also go with India because currently in cricket we have all biased system which is going with India due to huge funds and finances.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.

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Quote from: synchronym on December 16, 2023, 02:52:26 PM

op I agree with you. That's because if a country is poor then first of all the government of that country will think about how its people are well. First, the government of the country where there is poverty will try to provide good employment to its people. Then the government should first look at various aspects of education system and medical field. Then comes the cricket, they will consider the cricket of the poor country a little later.

Poor countries don't want to invest in a sport like cricket to the exclusion of other important activities. If a country plays good cricket but is lagging behind in cricket due to lack of funding, then alternative measures would have been taken for them. But what we see in recent times is that the country which is poor is not good at cricket. Let's talk about Zimbabwe cricket, the cricket board of that country is not able to support the cricketers as much as they expect. But if ICC had played a role in all these cases then cricket would have been more competitive. But I think ICC has no focus on that.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 18, 2023, 12:28:16 PM

Indians can't compete with Pakbros in creating esteemed terrorists so poor guys had to settle with at least something. Wink

Agreed, big or not, a scam is a scam but at the same time, needs some smoking gun if no concrete evidence is available. Hearsay is good for discussion but can't rely on it much.

Well, the terrorist groups were first created by America. If we could say anything bad about Pakistan, I guess it will be helping America to bomb Afghanistan for a long time. That was the point when Pakistan really sold out their brothers. Now of course the general public was not agreed to this. But those things happen.

Anyway, let's not get too political.

I actually do not know if sorting everything out is going to be fair towards the players. And by sorting everything out I mean not letting them play if they are not the citizen of that country. that becomes unfair to the poor countries.

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Quote from: wiss19 on December 20, 2023, 11:32:41 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2023, 09:48:09 AM

Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.

The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.

I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.

With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.

This issue has arisen with Pakistan hosting the 2025 Championship Trophy as India will not be playing the Pakistan Championship Trophy. That's because they won't go to play Pakistan due to their political opposition with Pakistan and India. All desi Pakistanis in the world went to play India will not go. Of course India will try to find an alternative for that because we have seen that India and Pakistan had a few matches in the Asia Cup but they didn't play there. So it is doubted by all that India will not participate to play Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan. Maybe India will shift their matches to some other venue they are claiming to play their matches in UAE. We now have to wait for some more time to see if India will play Pakistan in the 2025 Championship Toffee.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2023, 09:48:09 AM

Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.

The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.

I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.

With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.

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Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.

The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 18, 2023, 11:31:20 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2023, 08:59:49 AM

Not sure how it would be successful or not or pan out as they are hoping but you have to give credit to the BCCI for trying to find new ways to print money. At least In India, they are trying to tap and reach out to any potential market.

Useless bilateral will die soon (Barring a few series), these guys know it and already started gearing up.
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Already we have 3 months out of 12 blocked for the IPL. Then we have state level leagues such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League (TNPL) and the Karnataka Premier League (KPL). I don't understand the requirement for this second tier league. Ideally BCCI should organize a second division for each of the IPL franchises. For example, TNPL should actually be organized by the CSK instead of the Tamil Nadu Cricket Association. Similarly, Punjab Kings should organize a second division league for regions of Punjab, Haryana, JK and HP. This proposed 10 over league is just a carbon copy of IPL and it will be repetitive.

Maybe under 19-21 type of tournament for young talent then IPL will feed onto it. In the long run, it would help them immensely in case they are adding more teams to IPL.

No issue with state leagues, states can carry on as it's localized but I wonder what if, this type of model is introduced in existing domestic setups like Ranji, Mushtaq Ali Trophy and Vijay Harare.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2023, 08:59:49 AM

Not sure how it would be successful or not or pan out as they are hoping but you have to give credit to the BCCI for trying to find new ways to print money. At least In India, they are trying to tap and reach out to any potential market.

Useless bilateral will die soon (Barring a few series), these guys know it and already started gearing up.
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Already we have 3 months out of 12 blocked for the IPL. Then we have state level leagues such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League (TNPL) and the Karnataka Premier League (KPL). I don't understand the requirement for this second tier league. Ideally BCCI should organize a second division for each of the IPL franchises. For example, TNPL should actually be organized by the CSK instead of the Tamil Nadu Cricket Association. Similarly, Punjab Kings should organize a second division league for regions of Punjab, Haryana, JK and HP. This proposed 10 over league is just a carbon copy of IPL and it will be repetitive.

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Quote from: Ayers on December 10, 2023, 03:25:33 PM

Right now almost 90% of the whole ICC audience is Indian. So I do not think anyone is going to dare fight against India for anything

India keeps winning matches as they are the hub of cricket. Yesterday's match was lost by South Africa because of their batting, I know the bowlers of South Africa also played very poorly because they accepted the loss, if the batsmen did good batting then the bowlers also tried to take wickets.

Reeza Hendricks, Hendrik Erasmus van der Dussen, and Wiaan Mulder, these are all the players who made zero runs, and the other batsmen are equally played like them but at least they made lowest to lowest 3 or 4 and highest to highest 6, 7, or 12. So, this is not a good score.

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