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December 24, 2024, 01:02:46 PM
Maybe it's because the ICC deliberately puts Pakistan and India in the same group in every World Cup. Of all the matches played in cricket, the matches between India and Pakistan are the most high-voltage matches. As you mentioned, just as India and Pakistan are archrivals in cricket, while Australia and England are also archrivals in cricket. The matches of these four teams will be much more interesting, and many spectators will come to the field to watch their matches.
The main reason for deliberately forming such groups is financial gain. Earlier, the ICC earned a record amount of money from the World Cup match between India and Pakistan. Never before in the history of cricket were the number of people watching the game sitting on the ground and watching the game online. Now ICC will surely want to exploit these opportunities which is why every major event like ODI World T20 World Cup or Champions Trophy or Asia Cup places India and Pakistan in the same group everywhere. 
Champions Trophy will be more interesting than other tournaments as it features top 8 teams so rest assured that Champions Trophy is undoubtedly going to be very competitive. But I am initially favoring India, Pakistan and England, Australia for the semi-finals.
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December 24, 2024, 05:04:41 AM
It is not as if fewer people watch cricket in events like Southeast Asian Games, it should not be included. Rather, when cricket is included in these events, those who love to watch cricket will surely watch it and also many other people will come to know about this sport. Everything needs a beginning and i think it is just the right beginning where cricket will be included in Asian games, Olympics and in every sporting event. There are enough cricket audience to watch these matches.

Agreed. Cricket needs to be included in the multi-sport events such as Asian Games and Olympics. It gives a lot of exposure for cricket outside the traditional strongholds and smaller nations qualify for government funding as a result of it. When the mafia led by Sharad Pawar and Narayanaswami Srinivasan were in control of the ICC/BCCI, every attempt was made to sabotage the inclusion of cricket in such events. But the new ICC leadership, by Jay Shah and others are taking a much more positive approach.
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December 24, 2024, 01:54:28 AM
Finally there is some good news for cricket fans. First of all, cricket has been included as one of the sports disciplines for the 2025 Southeast Asian Games. And this came after a lot of back and forth discussion, after cricket was excluded initially. The Games will take place in Thailand next year, and possibly it will take place in the month of December. It is learnt that the Asian Cricket Council, with support from Jay Shah bargained really hard with SEA Games Federation for the inclusion of cricket for the 2025 edition.

The second good news is that despite the initial exclusion, there is still a chance that cricket will be included for the 2026 Asian Games. It is learnt that Olympic Council of Asia is leaning towards the inclusion, despite the Japanese association not being very interested in it.
Honestly, not many watch these events to begin with and fewer people watch cricket matches in such events which is why this isn't really a big deal. Olympics on the other hand is something else entirely.

Am just happy that cricket was added to the upcoming Olympics in the USA after several years which is something that I am looking forward to.

It is not as if fewer people watch cricket in events like Southeast Asian Games, it should not be included. Rather, when cricket is included in these events, those who love to watch cricket will surely watch it and also many other people will come to know about this sport. Everything needs a beginning and i think it is just the right beginning where cricket will be included in Asian games, Olympics and in every sporting event. There are enough cricket audience to watch these matches.
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December 24, 2024, 01:41:11 AM
Honestly, not many watch these events to begin with and fewer people watch cricket matches in such events which is why this isn't really a big deal. Olympics on the other hand is something else entirely.

Am just happy that cricket was added to the upcoming Olympics in the USA after several years which is something that I am looking forward to.

These (2025 Southeast Asian Games and 2026 Asian Games) are regional games, and as such doesn't have a lot of visibility outside the respective regions. But for the associate nations within these regions, they matter a lot. If cricket is included in these events, then automatically the national cricket boards become eligible to receive funds from the government. Cricket's inclusion to Olympics is going to be an earth-shattering event. But it should have happened two decades back, when Jagmohan Dalmiya made the request.
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December 24, 2024, 01:34:57 AM
Finally there is some good news for cricket fans. First of all, cricket has been included as one of the sports disciplines for the 2025 Southeast Asian Games. And this came after a lot of back and forth discussion, after cricket was excluded initially. The Games will take place in Thailand next year, and possibly it will take place in the month of December. It is learnt that the Asian Cricket Council, with support from Jay Shah bargained really hard with SEA Games Federation for the inclusion of cricket for the 2025 edition.

The second good news is that despite the initial exclusion, there is still a chance that cricket will be included for the 2026 Asian Games. It is learnt that Olympic Council of Asia is leaning towards the inclusion, despite the Japanese association not being very interested in it.
Honestly, not many watch these events to begin with and fewer people watch cricket matches in such events which is why this isn't really a big deal. Olympics on the other hand is something else entirely.

Am just happy that cricket was added to the upcoming Olympics in the USA after several years which is something that I am looking forward to.
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December 24, 2024, 01:00:43 AM
Finally there is some good news for cricket fans. First of all, cricket has been included as one of the sports disciplines for the 2025 Southeast Asian Games. And this came after a lot of back and forth discussion, after cricket was excluded initially. The Games will take place in Thailand next year, and possibly it will take place in the month of December. It is learnt that the Asian Cricket Council, with support from Jay Shah bargained really hard with SEA Games Federation for the inclusion of cricket for the 2025 edition.

The second good news is that despite the initial exclusion, there is still a chance that cricket will be included for the 2026 Asian Games. It is learnt that Olympic Council of Asia is leaning towards the inclusion, despite the Japanese association not being very interested in it.
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December 24, 2024, 12:39:32 AM
I don't know. Seems like a loss for them since they stand to gain big financial incentives whenever both teams clash in India though I could be wrong. Them succumbing to BCCI and ICC proves that they aren't on an equal plane.

Anyway, I am just glad to see this entire mess getting resolved as expected and am looking forward to both teams clashing in the future.

If India visits Pakistan for the Champions trophy, then at the most the PCB may gain a few million USD in terms of ticket sales and the Pakistani economy may get a slight boost in terms of hotel bookings and others. But that is minuscule when compared to the $34.51 million worth of funds that the PCB will receive every year from the ICC. The main point here is that same rules are applicable for both the BCCI and the PCB. India doesn't need to visit Pakistan, and similarly Pakistan don't need to visit India.

Haha, really. if the funds that are received by the ICC only matters, then no country need to visit any country. Why limit to Pakistan and India ? India don't need to Visit Australia, Australia dont need to come India, England should not visit Australia etc etc and still every board will receive its share  Cheesy

The fact is that Pakistan isn't in the postion to stand or i can say their puppet government and PCB board officials don't have the guts to stand. Yes there will be threats on the ICC fundings but when you want to stand against the powerful, you have to face the consequences.
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December 23, 2024, 02:15:30 PM
India not visiting Pakistan is just because they never want to give any economical advantage to them in any case as mentioned if we have Indian cricket team in any country it's good for them and their economy but in case of Pakistan it's never been had any impact even Australians are facing loses due to low sale of tickets and other things related to them.

But, now ICC ended this debate and all problem with a good decision which is surely helpful for Pakistan because now they can claim win-win for them, but surely Indian are feeling not comfortable even they are having no lost with this decision as well we have two events for Pakistan and two for India in next few years.
Even though other teams are willing to play, India is not willing which is a very common issue, although there have been complaints about their security. However, if such a plan is made for both the countries, it will definitely be profitable. India is one of the leading countries in cricket. The biggest revenue of cricket comes from that country. If India plays with Pakistan maybe Pakistan can gain a little there, but India has nothing to lose, but still if they are not willing to play there, then of course a good solution is needed. If the events are divided equally between the two countries, then of course it should not be a problem for India and Pakistan. Hopefully, both the countries will be able to find a good solution for this.
We all know about this we have no security threat or any issue in Pakistan but in last 77 years we have no improvement in relationship between these countries with after radicals now in control all India they have never been feeling positive about Pakistan, so things like these will happen just because of this we have good decision by ICC as both will play on neutral places because this is suitable for them and with this ICC can have good funds and revenues through media rights as well.

India currently one of the countries which are doing good economic changes and with this their cricket team is also having good profitable for any country where they visit just because of this Indian authorities never want to give any economical incentive to Pakistan so they are not touring for bilateral tours and ICC events as well.
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December 23, 2024, 08:48:10 AM
Pakistan  is a poor country and PCB wanted to play Pak India match in the Pakistan but Indian government is against Pakistan and they don't want the progress in Pakistan cricket. All teams toured in Pakistan except India and Indian said that Pakistan is not safe country but they didn't give written message.

Indian team is top class team no doubt but Indian government will not take decisions in the favour of Pakistan. Pakistan didn't want hybrid model but India became successful to make hybrid model.But Pakistan country is small country as comparison to India and Most of the viewers are from India . So ICC is recessive in this case and can't take hard action against India because without Indian team tournament Will be enjoyless.

There is no point in complaining too much about this. PCB still receives a good amount in annual funding from the ICC, and most of that money is sourced from India. If the BCCI goes in nuclear mode, then they may even ask the ICC to expel or suspend PCB. And trust me, the ICC will have no other option, but to follow the instructions from the BCCI. None of that is happening, as a middle ground has been found. Also, Jay Shah is quite keen to prove that he can act in a neutral manner.
I think BCCI is not neutral and Jay Shah is also not neutral because there should be penalty for India because in the last World Cup,ICC threat Pakistan when Pakistan was not agree to come in India but Pakistan came due to fear of penalty. And now India became successful to make hybrid model which was  point of India, ICC could not be neutral and ICC is dependent on India because they earn money from the viewers of India but now is best time for Pakistan to take step but who will take step?? That is question but there is no result of that because India did not want progress of Pakistan and Pakistan is safest country of the World and all players of the World visited Pakistan but India is jealous from Pakistan but now tournament will be organize in Pakistan and Pakistan will not go to India.
Brother after IPL now we have no ICC as International Cricket Council now we have this as Indian Cricket Council because huge funds going into pockets of big 3 so they are happy as things are moving around this they have never been fair for the cricket they are just doing their own work for having money.
Never expect we will have anything positive from them about cricket but still I am happy they have done good decision about ICC events which will be played in Pakistan and Indian for next 3 years because this is acceptable for all stakeholders with PCB is also one of the instable boards without any vision and solid strategy working under political influence.
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December 23, 2024, 08:08:37 AM
That is question but there is no result of that because India did not want progress of Pakistan and Pakistan is safest country of the World and all players of the World visited Pakistan but India is jealous from Pakistan but now tournament will be organize in Pakistan and Pakistan will not go to India.
Let's be real here. India-Pakistan are both equally at fault here which is why it makes sense as to why India refuses to tour Pakistan. Calling Pakistan safe is just silly and India is most certainly not jealous of them.

Most fans are satisfied with neutral venues etc which is what actually matters a whole lot more at the end of the day.
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December 23, 2024, 07:54:56 AM
Pakistan  is a poor country and PCB wanted to play Pak India match in the Pakistan but Indian government is against Pakistan and they don't want the progress in Pakistan cricket. All teams toured in Pakistan except India and Indian said that Pakistan is not safe country but they didn't give written message.

Indian team is top class team no doubt but Indian government will not take decisions in the favour of Pakistan. Pakistan didn't want hybrid model but India became successful to make hybrid model.But Pakistan country is small country as comparison to India and Most of the viewers are from India . So ICC is recessive in this case and can't take hard action against India because without Indian team tournament Will be enjoyless.

There is no point in complaining too much about this. PCB still receives a good amount in annual funding from the ICC, and most of that money is sourced from India. If the BCCI goes in nuclear mode, then they may even ask the ICC to expel or suspend PCB. And trust me, the ICC will have no other option, but to follow the instructions from the BCCI. None of that is happening, as a middle ground has been found. Also, Jay Shah is quite keen to prove that he can act in a neutral manner.
I think BCCI is not neutral and Jay Shah is also not neutral because there should be penalty for India because in the last World Cup,ICC threat Pakistan when Pakistan was not agree to come in India but Pakistan came due to fear of penalty. And now India became successful to make hybrid model which was  point of India, ICC could not be neutral and ICC is dependent on India because they earn money from the viewers of India but now is best time for Pakistan to take step but who will take step?? That is question but there is no result of that because India did not want progress of Pakistan and Pakistan is safest country of the World and all players of the World visited Pakistan but India is jealous from Pakistan but now tournament will be organize in Pakistan and Pakistan will not go to India.
There is no one to talk about it where India gives the most revenue. Moreover, the country who provide large part of revenue ICC must give more importance to them. That is why small countries have to make some concessions. Otherwise, this cricket organization will have nothing to do. If a match between India and Pakistan is still organized, there will be a scope to get a lot of revenue, which is the demand of everyone related to cricket, but if India is not one of the parties, then such a match cannot be organized. However, what I personally find is that if Pakistan can be stronger in cricket than India, then this solution is possible. I do not know what others think about this.
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December 23, 2024, 05:50:40 AM
Pakistan  is a poor country and PCB wanted to play Pak India match in the Pakistan but Indian government is against Pakistan and they don't want the progress in Pakistan cricket. All teams toured in Pakistan except India and Indian said that Pakistan is not safe country but they didn't give written message.

Indian team is top class team no doubt but Indian government will not take decisions in the favour of Pakistan. Pakistan didn't want hybrid model but India became successful to make hybrid model.But Pakistan country is small country as comparison to India and Most of the viewers are from India . So ICC is recessive in this case and can't take hard action against India because without Indian team tournament Will be enjoyless.

There is no point in complaining too much about this. PCB still receives a good amount in annual funding from the ICC, and most of that money is sourced from India. If the BCCI goes in nuclear mode, then they may even ask the ICC to expel or suspend PCB. And trust me, the ICC will have no other option, but to follow the instructions from the BCCI. None of that is happening, as a middle ground has been found. Also, Jay Shah is quite keen to prove that he can act in a neutral manner.
I think BCCI is not neutral and Jay Shah is also not neutral because there should be penalty for India because in the last World Cup,ICC threat Pakistan when Pakistan was not agree to come in India but Pakistan came due to fear of penalty. And now India became successful to make hybrid model which was  point of India, ICC could not be neutral and ICC is dependent on India because they earn money from the viewers of India but now is best time for Pakistan to take step but who will take step?? That is question but there is no result of that because India did not want progress of Pakistan and Pakistan is safest country of the World and all players of the World visited Pakistan but India is jealous from Pakistan but now tournament will be organize in Pakistan and Pakistan will not go to India.
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December 23, 2024, 05:05:01 AM
The groups of the eight-team Champions Trophy have already been divided where a total of eight teams have been designated as Group A and Group B. Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and New Zealand have been placed in one group, while Australia, England, South Africa and Afghanistan have been placed in another group.  
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_ICC_Champions_Trophy

The eight-team Champions Trophy groups have already been divided, Pakistan, New Zealand , Bangladesh and India are in the same group, perhaps Bangladesh is the weakest team in that group. Looking at Bangladesh's current performance in the ODI format, it doesn't look like they can win any of the matches against the strong teams in this group. One thing to note is that Sri Lanka is not in any group of the Champions Trophy, Have they been eliminated from the Champions Trophy?
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In terms of grouping, ICC has maintained well in two respects, one is the high voltage match between India and Pakistan and the other is the high voltage match between Australia and England. In cricket, India and Pakistan are arch-rivals while Australia and England are arch-rivals, so the two matches between these four teams will undoubtedly be the most interesting matches of the two groups. With the Champions Trophy in front of them, England announced their squad first where we saw a lot of young and experienced cricketers.
Maybe it's because the ICC deliberately puts Pakistan and India in the same group in every World Cup. Of all the matches played in cricket, the matches between India and Pakistan are the most high-voltage matches. As you mentioned, just as India and Pakistan are archrivals in cricket, while Australia and England are also archrivals in cricket. The matches of these four teams will be much more interesting, and many spectators will come to the field to watch their matches.
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December 23, 2024, 03:29:46 AM
I don't know. Seems like a loss for them since they stand to gain big financial incentives whenever both teams clash in India though I could be wrong. Them succumbing to BCCI and ICC proves that they aren't on an equal plane.

Anyway, I am just glad to see this entire mess getting resolved as expected and am looking forward to both teams clashing in the future.
If India visits Pakistan for the Champions trophy, then at the most the PCB may gain a few million USD in terms of ticket sales and the Pakistani economy may get a slight boost in terms of hotel bookings and others. But that is minuscule when compared to the $34.51 million worth of funds that the PCB will receive every year from the ICC. The main point here is that same rules are applicable for both the BCCI and the PCB. India doesn't need to visit Pakistan, and similarly Pakistan don't need to visit India.
India not visiting Pakistan is just because they never want to give any economical advantage to them in any case as mentioned if we have Indian cricket team in any country it's good for them and their economy but in case of Pakistan it's never been had any impact even Australians are facing loses due to low sale of tickets and other things related to them.

But, now ICC ended this debate and all problem with a good decision which is surely helpful for Pakistan because now they can claim win-win for them, but surely Indian are feeling not comfortable even they are having no lost with this decision as well we have two events for Pakistan and two for India in next few years.
Even though other teams are willing to play, India is not willing which is a very common issue, although there have been complaints about their security. However, if such a plan is made for both the countries, it will definitely be profitable. India is one of the leading countries in cricket. The biggest revenue of cricket comes from that country. If India plays with Pakistan maybe Pakistan can gain a little there, but India has nothing to lose, but still if they are not willing to play there, then of course a good solution is needed. If the events are divided equally between the two countries, then of course it should not be a problem for India and Pakistan. Hopefully, both the countries will be able to find a good solution for this.
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December 23, 2024, 02:00:24 AM
Pakistan  is a poor country and PCB wanted to play Pak India match in the Pakistan but Indian government is against Pakistan and they don't want the progress in Pakistan cricket. All teams toured in Pakistan except India and Indian said that Pakistan is not safe country but they didn't give written message.

Indian team is top class team no doubt but Indian government will not take decisions in the favour of Pakistan. Pakistan didn't want hybrid model but India became successful to make hybrid model.But Pakistan country is small country as comparison to India and Most of the viewers are from India . So ICC is recessive in this case and can't take hard action against India because without Indian team tournament Will be enjoyless.

There is no point in complaining too much about this. PCB still receives a good amount in annual funding from the ICC, and most of that money is sourced from India. If the BCCI goes in nuclear mode, then they may even ask the ICC to expel or suspend PCB. And trust me, the ICC will have no other option, but to follow the instructions from the BCCI. None of that is happening, as a middle ground has been found. Also, Jay Shah is quite keen to prove that he can act in a neutral manner.
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December 23, 2024, 01:47:33 AM
The groups of the eight-team Champions Trophy have already been divided where a total of eight teams have been designated as Group A and Group B. Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and New Zealand have been placed in one group, while Australia, England, South Africa and Afghanistan have been placed in another group. 

In terms of grouping, ICC has maintained well in two respects, one is the high voltage match between India and Pakistan and the other is the high voltage match between Australia and England. In cricket, India and Pakistan are arch-rivals while Australia and England are arch-rivals, so the two matches between these four teams will undoubtedly be the most interesting matches of the two groups. With the Champions Trophy in front of them, England announced their squad first where we saw a lot of young and experienced cricketers.

Jos Buttler, one of the most important players of the team, will represent England in the Champions Trophy.
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December 22, 2024, 12:03:22 PM
I don't know. Seems like a loss for them since they stand to gain big financial incentives whenever both teams clash in India though I could be wrong. Them succumbing to BCCI and ICC proves that they aren't on an equal plane.

Anyway, I am just glad to see this entire mess getting resolved as expected and am looking forward to both teams clashing in the future.
If India visits Pakistan for the Champions trophy, then at the most the PCB may gain a few million USD in terms of ticket sales and the Pakistani economy may get a slight boost in terms of hotel bookings and others. But that is minuscule when compared to the $34.51 million worth of funds that the PCB will receive every year from the ICC. The main point here is that same rules are applicable for both the BCCI and the PCB. India doesn't need to visit Pakistan, and similarly Pakistan don't need to visit India.
India not visiting Pakistan is just because they never want to give any economical advantage to them in any case as mentioned if we have Indian cricket team in any country it's good for them and their economy but in case of Pakistan it's never been had any impact even Australians are facing loses due to low sale of tickets and other things related to them.

But, now ICC ended this debate and all problem with a good decision which is surely helpful for Pakistan because now they can claim win-win for them, but surely Indian are feeling not comfortable even they are having no lost with this decision as well we have two events for Pakistan and two for India in next few years.
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December 22, 2024, 11:56:03 AM
I don't know. Seems like a loss for them since they stand to gain big financial incentives whenever both teams clash in India though I could be wrong. Them succumbing to BCCI and ICC proves that they aren't on an equal plane.

Anyway, I am just glad to see this entire mess getting resolved as expected and am looking forward to both teams clashing in the future.

If India visits Pakistan for the Champions trophy, then at the most the PCB may gain a few million USD in terms of ticket sales and the Pakistani economy may get a slight boost in terms of hotel bookings and others. But that is minuscule when compared to the $34.51 million worth of funds that the PCB will receive every year from the ICC. The main point here is that same rules are applicable for both the BCCI and the PCB. India doesn't need to visit Pakistan, and similarly Pakistan don't need to visit India.

Pakistan  is a poor country and PCB wanted to play Pak India match in the Pakistan but Indian government is against Pakistan and they don't want the progress in Pakistan cricket. All teams toured in Pakistan except India and Indian said that Pakistan is not safe country but they didn't give written message.

Indian team is top class team no doubt but Indian government will not take decisions in the favour of Pakistan. Pakistan didn't want hybrid model but India became successful to make hybrid model.But Pakistan country is small country as comparison to India and Most of the viewers are from India . So ICC is recessive in this case and can't take hard action against India because without Indian team tournament Will be enjoyless.
The issue is now known to almost everyone in the cricket world. But I think it is not the problem of the common people of India or Pakistan but it is the problem of the government. The Indian government does not want Pakistan to improve in cricket. But as far as I know, the common people of India do not support such a policy. There is no logic in involving politics in the game. I think every country needs cricket, especially in the development of cricket. Pakistan was once known as the strongest country in cricket but they are gradually losing their value. Now if pressure is applied on them or any other mechanism is created then I am sure Pakistan will not be able to survive there but even if it is a victory for the Indian government, it is a defeat for cricket.

What we as common people want is hard competition. But I will never support anyone's progress by tactics. I believe the common people of India also want the same. But they have no way to do anything. No one will have the courage to protest against it. I did not say these things for any side of India or Pakistan but for the betterment of cricket. We used to see so many competitive matches in cricket, but now that kind of image is often lost.
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December 22, 2024, 11:32:31 AM
I don't know. Seems like a loss for them since they stand to gain big financial incentives whenever both teams clash in India though I could be wrong. Them succumbing to BCCI and ICC proves that they aren't on an equal plane.

Anyway, I am just glad to see this entire mess getting resolved as expected and am looking forward to both teams clashing in the future.

If India visits Pakistan for the Champions trophy, then at the most the PCB may gain a few million USD in terms of ticket sales and the Pakistani economy may get a slight boost in terms of hotel bookings and others. But that is minuscule when compared to the $34.51 million worth of funds that the PCB will receive every year from the ICC. The main point here is that same rules are applicable for both the BCCI and the PCB. India doesn't need to visit Pakistan, and similarly Pakistan don't need to visit India.

Pakistan  is a poor country and PCB wanted to play Pak India match in the Pakistan but Indian government is against Pakistan and they don't want the progress in Pakistan cricket. All teams toured in Pakistan except India and Indian said that Pakistan is not safe country but they didn't give written message.

Indian team is top class team no doubt but Indian government will not take decisions in the favour of Pakistan. Pakistan didn't want hybrid model but India became successful to make hybrid model.But Pakistan country is small country as comparison to India and Most of the viewers are from India . So ICC is recessive in this case and can't take hard action against India because without Indian team tournament Will be enjoyless.
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December 22, 2024, 08:30:09 AM
I don't know. Seems like a loss for them since they stand to gain big financial incentives whenever both teams clash in India though I could be wrong. Them succumbing to BCCI and ICC proves that they aren't on an equal plane.

Anyway, I am just glad to see this entire mess getting resolved as expected and am looking forward to both teams clashing in the future.

If India visits Pakistan for the Champions trophy, then at the most the PCB may gain a few million USD in terms of ticket sales and the Pakistani economy may get a slight boost in terms of hotel bookings and others. But that is minuscule when compared to the $34.51 million worth of funds that the PCB will receive every year from the ICC. The main point here is that same rules are applicable for both the BCCI and the PCB. India doesn't need to visit Pakistan, and similarly Pakistan don't need to visit India.
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