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Quote from: JSRAW on November 24, 2023, 05:50:59 AM

Srilankans are banned? Jeez, your source must be living in some parallel universe so i am sure he must be right in another universe but not here lol.

BCCI is corrupt but they are not a group of manchild, believe it or not but BCCI folks are too busy in busy printing money. Btw how many Bongs from Bangladesh play in the IPL?

Agreed on the money part. BCCI is right now swimming in wads of cash. They got a $1.2 billion per year deal for the IPL media rights and another $230 million per year from the ICC. And recently they signed a deal with Viacom18 for the bilateral series media rights, worth ₹5,963 crore for a 5-year period. Apparently the Indian government is also happy with the potential tax bill from 2024 onwards. The BCCI paid a total of ₹1,159 crore in income tax for the period of 2021-2022. With the increase in revenue, the tax bill may go up by at least 2-3x.

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Recently there is a rumor that BCCI has banned Bangladesh players from IPL after Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Many content creators are claiming that BCCI has taken this decision to pit Bangladesh against India in the World Cup final. If Bangladeshi players are banned from IPL for supporting then Australia should be banned from IPL instead of banning Bangladesh from IPL because Australia beat India in the final match and Bangladesh only supported Australia. It is normal that every country will have fans of some teams and haters of some teams, if such a ban is imposed on a country because of some haters, how much is it reasonable to have it. For Bangladeshi fans if Bangladeshi players are banned in IPL then BCCI should think about this decision.

Well.. this is quite strange. Is there any reliable source available for this? I can't find anything related to this news in any of the major cricket portals such as ESPN-Cricinfo or Cricbuzz. And the reason being given is laughable. Why should the BCCI ban Bangladeshi players just for supporting Australia? Anyway, there are not many Bangladeshis in IPL. Shakib last played in this league many years ago, and as far as I know only Mustafizur is a regular. Liton Das has a contract with the Kolkata Knight Riders, but I haven't seen him playing a lot of matches in 2023.

The popular cricket based news media may not have aired this news but there are many popular content creators in India who discuss various things about cricket and have confirmed this fact. Even if India bans Bangladesh from the IPL, it will not hurt Bangladesh much as only three players from Bangladesh played in the IPL last season and out of those three, Shakib Al Hasan withdrew towards the end. Liton Das got a chance to play only one match whereas Mustafizur Rahman might have got a chance to play more than one match. I just tried to tell here the reasons they saw behind banning Bangladesh from IPL but I don't think it is any reason. Any person can support any party, everyone has freedom to support.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on November 23, 2023, 11:26:42 PM

Recently there is a rumor that BCCI has banned Bangladesh players from IPL after Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Many content creators are claiming that BCCI has taken this decision to pit Bangladesh against India in the World Cup final. If Bangladeshi players are banned from IPL for supporting then Australia should be banned from IPL instead of banning Bangladesh from IPL because Australia beat India in the final match and Bangladesh only supported Australia. It is normal that every country will have fans of some teams and haters of some teams, if such a ban is imposed on a country because of some haters, how much is it reasonable to have it. For Bangladeshi fans if Bangladeshi players are banned in IPL then BCCI should think about this decision.

Lmao!

Srilankans are banned? Jeez, your source must be living in some parallel universe so i am sure he must be right in another universe but not here lol.

BCCI is corrupt but they are not a group of manchild, believe it or not but BCCI folks are too busy in busy printing money. Btw how many Bongs from Bangladesh play in the IPL?

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on November 23, 2023, 11:26:42 PM

Recently there is a rumor that BCCI has banned Bangladesh players from IPL after Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Many content creators are claiming that BCCI has taken this decision to pit Bangladesh against India in the World Cup final. If Bangladeshi players are banned from IPL for supporting then Australia should be banned from IPL instead of banning Bangladesh from IPL because Australia beat India in the final match and Bangladesh only supported Australia. It is normal that every country will have fans of some teams and haters of some teams, if such a ban is imposed on a country because of some haters, how much is it reasonable to have it. For Bangladeshi fans if Bangladeshi players are banned in IPL then BCCI should think about this decision.

Well.. this is quite strange. Is there any reliable source available for this? I can't find anything related to this news in any of the major cricket portals such as ESPN-Cricinfo or Cricbuzz. And the reason being given is laughable. Why should the BCCI ban Bangladeshi players just for supporting Australia? Anyway, there are not many Bangladeshis in IPL. Shakib last played in this league many years ago, and as far as I know only Mustafizur is a regular. Liton Das has a contract with the Kolkata Knight Riders, but I haven't seen him playing a lot of matches in 2023.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on November 23, 2023, 11:26:42 PM

Recently there is a rumor that BCCI has banned Bangladesh players from IPL after Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Many content creators are claiming that BCCI has taken this decision to pit Bangladesh against India in the World Cup final. If Bangladeshi players are banned from IPL for supporting then Australia should be banned from IPL instead of banning Bangladesh from IPL because Australia beat India in the final match and Bangladesh only supported Australia. It is normal that every country will have fans of some teams and haters of some teams, if such a ban is imposed on a country because of some haters, how much is it reasonable to have it. For Bangladeshi fans if Bangladeshi players are banned in IPL then BCCI should think about this decision.

The matter happened in the 2023 World Cup final match between Australia and India. This rumor may have arisen because thousands of Bangladeshi cricket fans supported Australia in that match. However, no such official announcement has been made yet by BCCI which will not allow the players to play IPL in Bangladesh. However, the media of India and Basosal media are fussing in different ways why Bangladeshis supported Australia. Because of this, if the Indian Cricket Board wants, Bangladesh may not be allowed to play in the IPL. But if this work is done by the Cricket Board of India, it will definitely be a very bad thing from my side. Sports is a place of entertainment, I can support Australia more than India, there is nothing to be politicized about it.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:37 AM

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A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.

Shadab and Nawaz didn't contributed much with the ball during the recently concluded ODI World Cup of 2023. What Pakistan need is to identify some of the younger spinners who are performing well in the domestic circuit. They don't need to immediately include them in the national squad, but there should be a medium-term plan by organizing a few A team tours and all.

Agreed! I think Pakistan management is looking for a spin allrounder like Muhammad Hafeez and Shahid Afridi, but so far, they haven't succeeded. And this approach is costing them big time. They need to rethink their approach if they want to compete with the best teams in the World.

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If they target 2-3 players, then I am sure that within the next 12 months they will get at least one quality player who can bowl well against top teams like Australia and England. They have ignored this issue for so long, so they act without any more delay.

I am thinking the same. They have to identify at least 3 spinners and preferably a wrist spinner as well. They should give new players a chance in the test series against SENA to boost their confidence and skills. If they perform against these nations, this will be a big plus for Pakistan.

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Recently there is a rumor that BCCI has banned Bangladesh players from IPL after Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Many content creators are claiming that BCCI has taken this decision to pit Bangladesh against India in the World Cup final. If Bangladeshi players are banned from IPL for supporting then Australia should be banned from IPL instead of banning Bangladesh from IPL because Australia beat India in the final match and Bangladesh only supported Australia. It is normal that every country will have fans of some teams and haters of some teams, if such a ban is imposed on a country because of some haters, how much is it reasonable to have it. For Bangladeshi fans if Bangladeshi players are banned in IPL then BCCI should think about this decision.

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Quote from: jasonjm on November 22, 2023, 11:46:58 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 21, 2023, 05:52:10 AM

Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?

A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.

Every time when we have changes into world our expectations are high and positive but sadly in Pakistan case I am not having anything like this because currently they are mostly bench of just political influence based with media reports are coming most chances in near future we will lose Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan due to political tension which could be worst for the Pakistan cricket team and game of cricket but no one can do anything about this all.

Wahab Riaz is currently playing in PSL with having minister office as well so just because of this we can check how things are going in test team they have mostly players on performance of ODI and T20i leagues which could be brought them more problems for them in Australia and now in few months we are heading for the T20i World Cup as well, but they are having no vision for this but PSL2024 is only which will help these players to increase their performance and quality hopefully all will be good for them in the future.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:37 AM

Quote from: jasonjm on November 22, 2023, 11:46:58 PM

A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.

Shadab and Nawaz didn't contributed much with the ball during the recently concluded ODI World Cup of 2023. What Pakistan need is to identify some of the younger spinners who are performing well in the domestic circuit. They don't need to immediately include them in the national squad, but there should be a medium-term plan by organizing a few A team tours and all. If they target 2-3 players, then I am sure that within the next 12 months they will get at least one quality player who can bowl well against top teams like Australia and England. They have ignored this issue for so long, so they act without any more delay.

Shadab Khan and Mohammad Nawaz were big failures for the Pakistan in this world cup with currently they have no quality spinner which can bring some positive changes even they have few legendary spinners in near past Saqlain Mushtaq, Mushtaq Ahmad and Saeed Ajmal which can do good things but no one want to hire them for having good spinners which is terrible their domestic set up is also now in mess-up due to many changes and many good players are migrating from here to different countries for the better future.

India having impressive strategy which is now giving them many quality pace bowlers and spinners were never been problem but here things never been positive for the game just poor strategy and lack of leadership having many problems and future is also looking not good in all formats if they are not going to have positive changes.

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Quote from: jasonjm on November 22, 2023, 11:46:58 PM

A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.

Shadab and Nawaz didn't contributed much with the ball during the recently concluded ODI World Cup of 2023. What Pakistan need is to identify some of the younger spinners who are performing well in the domestic circuit. They don't need to immediately include them in the national squad, but there should be a medium-term plan by organizing a few A team tours and all. If they target 2-3 players, then I am sure that within the next 12 months they will get at least one quality player who can bowl well against top teams like Australia and England. They have ignored this issue for so long, so they act without any more delay.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 21, 2023, 05:52:10 AM

Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?

A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.

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@Sithara007 changes were supposed to come after their poor performance in the World Cup and I’m not surprised they have decided to make drastic changes because it’s a step in the right direction. Furthermore I totally agree with your point because the old timers have failed constantly and maybe this is a risky decision but it’s high time they took decisions like these to improve their overall performances.

Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?

Pakistan having the best individuals in history and present as well, but sadly their biggest issue is leadership Imran Khan was best as leader even with many problems and controversies after him, we have few good but things never been positive due to poor management and lack of leadership in PCB which is mostly run by peoples those are not involved in game and mostly having posts on personal likes and political bases.

Now, they are organizing PSL and few domestic events as well, but they are never able to produce good natural leaders which are problem they need to work on grass-root if they want to have better results Babar Azam's case is also political rather than any other thing Shaheen Afridi is having good back of few peoples which are politically strong specially his father-in-law

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 21, 2023, 02:25:45 AM

@Sithara007 changes were supposed to come after their poor performance in the World Cup and I’m not surprised they have decided to make drastic changes because it’s a step in the right direction. Furthermore I totally agree with your point because the old timers have failed constantly and maybe this is a risky decision but it’s high time they took decisions like these to improve their overall performances.

Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?

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Quote from: MusaPk on November 20, 2023, 03:44:03 AM

Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.

In case of Shaheen Shah Afridi, at least he will be a part of the playing XI for sure. So there is nothing wrong in giving in a chance at the top post. At least we can be sure that he will not end up like Temba Bavuma of South Africa (who will not be even in the playing XI if he is not the captain). And now coming to Wahab Riaz, what is the issue if he gets a good role in administration? Younger people also deserves a chance, right? The old school guys have failed PCB so far. So there is nothing wrong in giving a few chances to people like Wahab IMO.

@Sithara007 changes were supposed to come after their poor performance in the World Cup and I’m not surprised they have decided to make drastic changes because it’s a step in the right direction. Furthermore I totally agree with your point because the old timers have failed constantly and maybe this is a risky decision but it’s high time they took decisions like these to improve their overall performances.

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Quote from: MusaPk on November 20, 2023, 03:44:03 AM

Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.

In case of Shaheen Shah Afridi, at least he will be a part of the playing XI for sure. So there is nothing wrong in giving in a chance at the top post. At least we can be sure that he will not end up like Temba Bavuma of South Africa (who will not be even in the playing XI if he is not the captain). And now coming to Wahab Riaz, what is the issue if he gets a good role in administration? Younger people also deserves a chance, right? The old school guys have failed PCB so far. So there is nothing wrong in giving a few chances to people like Wahab IMO.

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Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last.

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.

Well, they had to choose someone. It's not like there are tons of leadership options in the setup.

Shadab looks like a leader, at least in T-20 cricket but in Pakistan you need a big daddy to back you up and Shaheen falls in that category. The test side looks depressing to me and i only follow them for some lols and momentary brilliance from individuals. The latter part "Wahab Riaz" is hilarious and shocking for everyone but depressing for Pakistan cricket.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 17, 2023, 07:09:42 AM

Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last.

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 17, 2023, 07:09:42 AM

Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last.

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

They can't get both roles - in administration and as a player. Either they need to reject the position that is offered to them by the PCB, or they need to pull out of the PSL. I believe the latter option maybe more attractive for them. Anyway they are nearing the end of their playing career and there is no point in sacrificing a good administration role for a minor playing role. PCB is undergoing a state of flux, and the same can be said about the national team as well. Given this, I am not sure whether they will be ready for the 2024 T20I World Cup.

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Quote from: MusaPk on November 16, 2023, 07:34:17 AM

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I am not sure what good this can do to the Pakistani team. He will be replaced by whom? The most prominent name that I am hearing is that of Shaheen Shah Afridi, but I am quite skeptical about his role as the captain. Even as an opening bowler, there have been numerous occasions when he crumbled under pressure. I would rather go with someone with a bit more maturity, such as Fakhar Zaman or Mohammad Rizwan. At least I would prefer a batsman rather than one of the bowlers. Shaheen Shah needs more time to learn maturity.

It was all because of his father in law (Shahid Afridi) efforts. Shaheen was Pakistan main bowler in this world cup and he along with Haris was a total disaster.
PCB also appointed new Chief Selector i.e Wahab Riaz and Muhammad Hafeez was given the role of Director of Men's cricket team. All coaching staff is replaced or few already resigned. That's why Mikey Arthur was coaching Pakistan team via Zoom session. He knew that he can be sacked on any fine morning.

Quote from: JSRAW on November 16, 2023, 06:04:14 AM

Babar stepping down from captaincy is good for him. Having said that, it's kind of hilarious and surprising to see that within an hour of his resignation, PCB appointed new captains for all formats. It's like everything was pre planned and they were ready with everything.

No discussion or pretending to set up a committee whatsoever, just another normal day at PCB's office.

He probably was given option that you step down yourself or we remove you from captaincy. Everything was already planned.

Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last.

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

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