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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 15, 2023, 10:36:03 PM

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This sort of qualifier round tells the story of how badly ICC operates in general and is not interested in spreading the game.

All of them or at least 6 teams should've been qualified for the WC but only 2 teams will move into main groups. Ideally, every team should've played the qualifiers.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 15, 2023, 10:36:03 PM

My prediction is that the following teams would advance to the super-6 stage:
Group A: Zimbabwe, Nepal and West Indies
Group B: Ireland, Scotland and Sri Lanka

It's really tough to predict who will qualify for the super-6 stage apart from West Indies and Sri Lanka. I think that Netherlands, USA, Ireland and Scotland will join them in the next stage.

I would be stunned if West Indies or Sri Lanka or both would get knocked out in the super-6 stage.

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Two days to go for the start of the 2023 ODI Cricket World Cup Qualifier. The grouping is as follows:

Group A:
Zimbabwe
Nepal
West Indies
Netherlands
United States

Group B:
Ireland
Oman
Scotland
Sri Lanka
United Arab Emirates

My prediction is that the following teams would advance to the super-6 stage:
Group A: Zimbabwe, Nepal and West Indies
Group B: Ireland, Scotland and Sri Lanka

What happens in Super-6 is difficult to predict, for now.

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The Ashes is going to start soon this year and I am very excited for it. England resurrected themselves in recent times thanks to their Bazball approach under the leadership of Stokes and McCullum.

On the other hand, Australia won the WTC recently after consistently great performances due to which they are on top of the rankings. Am favouring England slightly more than Australia due to their Bazball approach.

Am hoping for an exciting series between both these teams. Also, no rain issues hopefully.

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Quote from: darewaller on June 15, 2023, 10:19:53 AM

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 14, 2023, 10:49:40 PM

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

Here I am feeling West Indies needs to improve their domestic setup and also needs to end problems with their players which are creating problems for them in last few years because if it's not going to end then surely things can go from bad to worse for them in coming years.

Since 2005, the relationship between the players and the West Indies Cricket Board began to decrease. There, inconsistent behavior between the cricket board and the cricketers has gradually lowered the reputation of their cricket. Even now this problem is not solved. There are also allegations against the board that ICC funds are not properly distributed among the players. I think West Indies cricket will not improve until the board can develop a good relationship with their players.

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Quote from: darewaller on June 15, 2023, 10:19:53 AM

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Here I am feeling West Indies needs to improve their domestic setup and also needs to end problems with their players which are creating problems for them in last few years because if it's not going to end then surely things can go from bad to worse for them in coming years.

West Indies is a group of countries and hence there might be some limitations on some of the aspects, they were the best team when Sir Garfield Sobers and Clive Lloyd used to scout the Caribbean Islands for talents and many of the legendary players were included in the team during that period especially the fearsome fast bowlers. You need a captain like that to scout for talents for you need an administrative team that are capable of doing that.

Now the main focus is on T20 and even though there are domestic competition players are inclined to play the shorter format because of global tournaments which offers huge monetary benefits. .

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 14, 2023, 11:00:16 PM

Quote from: Juggy777 on June 14, 2023, 10:49:40 PM

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

There is no doubt about the level of Sri Lanka and West Indies but as things going down for these two teams and many Associates are bringing good performance this could be interested in next few years because now white-ball cricket is just have one or two good players on game day, and it's all gone I also sure most chances we will have Sri Lanka and West Indies in ODI World Cup but still Zimbabwe is also in with any good performance on match-day against these two big can bring them in good position.

Here I am feeling West Indies needs to improve their domestic setup and also needs to end problems with their players which are creating problems for them in last few years because if it's not going to end then surely things can go from bad to worse for them in coming years.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 14, 2023, 10:49:40 PM

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

I really want to say that Sri Lanka and the West Indies are certainly going to qualify. But I also do not feel very confident saying that, to be honest. they are certainly better than the others. That’s what I can say for now.

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 14, 2023, 11:00:16 PM

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

I understand that Sri Lanka and the West Indies are a few levels above the others. But the inconsistency is a little too much to depend on them. Who knows maybe they will lose a crucial match! Who knows, maybe we will be surprised!

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 14, 2023, 10:49:40 PM

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on June 14, 2023, 12:46:31 PM

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It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.
So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

Sithara007, Well, I couldn't agree more. This is certainly going to be from these four countries. And if we are being a little more precise I think we have to say that Sri Lanka and West Indies are going to be the ones. I am a little doubtful about them though. The performance that they have shown are not very convincing, to be honest.

Vaskiy, Of course, we cannot be sure about anything. It is actually hard to say since Sri Lanka and West Indies have not been very consistent. So obviously it is not 100% sure if they are actually going to be the teams to go ahead. But the expectation is obviously there from them.

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 14, 2023, 10:14:53 AM

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

Netherlands is a strong team, but this time none of their top players are available. At least 7-8 of their regular players (including Roelof van der Merwe, Fred Klaassen, Brandon Glover, Paul van Meekeren, Colin Ackermann, Timm van der Gugten and Shane Snater). As a result, they have sent a very young and inexperienced team. They are placed in a very tough group, along with two test nations (Zimbabwe and West Indies) and one team that is in peak form (Nepal). Only United States can be classified as a weak team in Group A. And their first match will be against a strong Zimbabwe.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 14, 2023, 10:14:53 AM

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Quote from: fuguebtc on June 13, 2023, 12:34:46 PM

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.
So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

Sithara007, Well, I couldn't agree more. This is certainly going to be from these four countries. And if we are being a little more precise I think we have to say that Sri Lanka and West Indies are going to be the ones. I am a little doubtful about them though. The performance that they have shown are not very convincing, to be honest.

Vaskiy, Of course, we cannot be sure about anything. It is actually hard to say since Sri Lanka and West Indies have not been very consistent. So obviously it is not 100% sure if they are actually going to be the teams to go ahead. But the expectation is obviously there from them.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 13, 2023, 11:54:06 PM

Quote from: fuguebtc on June 13, 2023, 12:34:46 PM

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.

So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on June 13, 2023, 12:34:46 PM

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.

So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 12, 2023, 10:10:44 PM

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will start in a few days from now. Sri Lanka and West Indies are the favorites to qualify, and other teams are fra behind them at lest on paper. Anyone believe that either of these two would fail to qualify? Among the other teams, Ireland and Netherlands are in bad shape and they have lost all of their recent matches. On top of that, Netherlands will be playing in this tournament without most of their top players. Zimbabwe will be having the home advantage, but they are also in poor form. Don't know much about the recent performance from Scotland, but Nepal may be able to win one or two matches. And I have zero hope for the other three teams - Oman, UAE and USA.

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.

So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 12, 2023, 10:10:44 PM

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will start in a few days from now. Sri Lanka and West Indies are the favorites to qualify, and other teams are fra behind them at lest on paper. Anyone believe that either of these two would fail to qualify? Among the other teams, Ireland and Netherlands are in bad shape and they have lost all of their recent matches. On top of that, Netherlands will be playing in this tournament without most of their top players. Zimbabwe will be having the home advantage, but they are also in poor form. Don't know much about the recent performance from Scotland, but Nepal may be able to win one or two matches. And I have zero hope for the other three teams - Oman, UAE and USA.

18th June is starting date for this event with right now few warm-up matches going on which is good before this event I am agreed with this as Sri Lanka and West Indies are favorite contenders for this event but as host and having good practice against Pakistan A Zimbabwe can also do upset because today they score 367 runs against Oman and also concede 339 but still this is good match for them with good batting from their middle order after failure of top order and things looking impressive for them.

With mostly other teams which have adopted players can do some resistance but not good things are coming from them with just three teams are main for the qualification, Sri Lanka, West Indies and Zimbabwe because these are doing enough for their better future and have some good hopes in white-ball formats as well.

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2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will start in a few days from now. Sri Lanka and West Indies are the favorites to qualify, and other teams are fra behind them at lest on paper. Anyone believe that either of these two would fail to qualify? Among the other teams, Ireland and Netherlands are in bad shape and they have lost all of their recent matches. On top of that, Netherlands will be playing in this tournament without most of their top players. Zimbabwe will be having the home advantage, but they are also in poor form. Don't know much about the recent performance from Scotland, but Nepal may be able to win one or two matches. And I have zero hope for the other three teams - Oman, UAE and USA.

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ICC fined India 100%, Australia 80%, Shubman Gill 15%.

ICC fined India and Australia separately for the World Test Championship final, ICC fined India 100% and Australia 80%. India penalized 100% for going 5 overs short of the allotted time and Australia 80% for going 4 overs short. The ICC rules state that failure to complete an over within the stipulated time will result in a fine of 20% per over.

Additionally, Indian cricketer Shubman Gill was fined 15 per cent of his match fee and given a demerit point for his controversial post on social media following a controversial dismissal. According to ICC rules, no player can make any controversial post about the game on social media. However, he posted a social media post with an emoji caption of Cameron Greene's controversial catch and the ICC punished him based on that post.

But I do not understand why someone should be punished because they just do not agree on something with the ICC. The player can post about anything he wants as long as it does not cause any problems to any place, religion, or ethnicity. He thought it was controversial and probably should’ve gone the other way and that’s why he posted about that. I don’t see anything wrong with that. And one player saying that it should have gone the other way does not prove the ICC wrong. Giving him a fine is something that indicates ICC being wrong.

I also agree with you on this. Shubman Gill did not find anything reliable. For this reason he can express his emotions on social media and it is a personal opinion. I think ICC could have been more careful here because of Shubman Gill's post. They could see if there was any mistake or not. But not having that opportunity seems questionable to me. I don't know why Shubman Gill made such a post after knowing about it. But he may have done so out of anger. Even with having technology, such complaints cannot be accepted. I think a longer period of observation should be used rather than not giving a controversial decision.

great names should be careful while making public post - social media has made a very strong impact on the lives of people.
These sportsman should think million time before making a controversal post

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Quote from: LDL on June 12, 2023, 06:31:08 AM

ICC fined India 100%, Australia 80%, Shubman Gill 15%.

ICC fined India and Australia separately for the World Test Championship final, ICC fined India 100% and Australia 80%. India penalized 100% for going 5 overs short of the allotted time and Australia 80% for going 4 overs short. The ICC rules state that failure to complete an over within the stipulated time will result in a fine of 20% per over.

Additionally, Indian cricketer Shubman Gill was fined 15 per cent of his match fee and given a demerit point for his controversial post on social media following a controversial dismissal. According to ICC rules, no player can make any controversial post about the game on social media. However, he posted a social media post with an emoji caption of Cameron Greene's controversial catch and the ICC punished him based on that post.

But I do not understand why someone should be punished because they just do not agree on something with the ICC. The player can post about anything he wants as long as it does not cause any problems to any place, religion, or ethnicity. He thought it was controversial and probably should’ve gone the other way and that’s why he posted about that. I don’t see anything wrong with that. And one player saying that it should have gone the other way does not prove the ICC wrong. Giving him a fine is something that indicates ICC being wrong.

I also agree with you on this. Shubman Gill did not find anything reliable. For this reason he can express his emotions on social media and it is a personal opinion. I think ICC could have been more careful here because of Shubman Gill's post. They could see if there was any mistake or not. But not having that opportunity seems questionable to me. I don't know why Shubman Gill made such a post after knowing about it. But he may have done so out of anger. Even with having technology, such complaints cannot be accepted. I think a longer period of observation should be used rather than not giving a controversial decision.

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Quote from: LDL on June 12, 2023, 06:31:08 AM

ICC fined India 100%, Australia 80%, Shubman Gill 15%.

ICC fined India and Australia separately for the World Test Championship final, ICC fined India 100% and Australia 80%. India penalized 100% for going 5 overs short of the allotted time and Australia 80% for going 4 overs short. The ICC rules state that failure to complete an over within the stipulated time will result in a fine of 20% per over.

Additionally, Indian cricketer Shubman Gill was fined 15 per cent of his match fee and given a demerit point for his controversial post on social media following a controversial dismissal. According to ICC rules, no player can make any controversial post about the game on social media. However, he posted a social media post with an emoji caption of Cameron Greene's controversial catch and the ICC punished him based on that post.

I understand about the fine that was given by the ICC because of the slow overrate. It is the rule and if someone breaks the rule they should be punished. I absolutely agree.

But I do not understand why someone should be punished because they just do not agree on something with the ICC. The player can post about anything he wants as long as it does not cause any problems to any place, religion, or ethnicity. He thought it was controversial and probably should’ve gone the other way and that’s why he posted about that. I don’t see anything wrong with that. And one player saying that it should have gone the other way does not prove the ICC wrong. Giving him a fine is something that indicates ICC being wrong.

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