I'd just like to quickly state that all my arguments are completely factual and referenced by proof.
I also have no need to 'boost posts' and am not enrolled in any sig campaign of any kind.
Topic: ⭐ Crypto.Games ⭐ 0.8% House Edge on Dice ⭐ Largest wagering contest...ever ⭐ - page 300. (Read 343954 times)
July 05, 2015, 03:49:26 PM
July 05, 2015, 03:48:15 PM
Hello, this is regarding the thread in the gambling section that has become a rather big topic of discussion over the past day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.100
As I have claimed in the thread, I have found a way to bet on your site that gives an edge advantage to the players. In addition, there is a way to exploit the client side to manipulate some data that should not be manipulable. These claims have been tested and confirmed by user dooglus to be true.
I am asking for 1.5 BTC as a bounty for finding these brutally exploitable bugs on your site. dooglus is included in this group pm to verify these claims. If you are willing to escrow the 1.5 BTC for the bounty we can discuss this bugs at the soonest possible time so that they can be fixed.
Please use "reply to all" when replying to this message so that all three users may be included in this PM conversation.
As I have claimed in the thread, I have found a way to bet on your site that gives an edge advantage to the players. In addition, there is a way to exploit the client side to manipulate some data that should not be manipulable. These claims have been tested and confirmed by user dooglus to be true.
I am asking for 1.5 BTC as a bounty for finding these brutally exploitable bugs on your site. dooglus is included in this group pm to verify these claims. If you are willing to escrow the 1.5 BTC for the bounty we can discuss this bugs at the soonest possible time so that they can be fixed.
Please use "reply to all" when replying to this message so that all three users may be included in this PM conversation.
i told you there were two bugs from the start. i dont know why youre acting so surprised. the fact that you dont even take the time to double check before posting this is pretty pathetic. learn to read.
July 05, 2015, 03:47:50 PM
I am leaving this scamming casino's signature campaign. I dont know what is wrong with you guys, changing server seeds. Come on, pathetic shit!
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July 05, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Ok this has got far enough, so I'll post substratas, dooglus and my responses before this got public.
PART 1:
Substrata contacted me on July 3rd with message:
After this message we ourself reported on the forum.
Part 3 (again private messages)
The same day (June 3rd) I apologize to him via private message:
His respond. He claims he didn't agreed with the terms. omg.
After this users are collecting points for their signature camapign. Some guys are just writing lies and BS just to get posts. Pathetic.
PART 1:
Substrata contacted me on July 3rd with message:
the admin of the site seems rather hostile and is trying to rip both me and dooglus off, demanding a lower bounty for the deal, i am entertaining offers in this thread or through pm regarding this. a percentage of this will be paid to dooglus for his help in confirming this issue.
OMG now we're trying to rip you off!?"heres my price take it or leave it lolol fk off" is basically the tone im getting from this guy. he seems rather hostile, which is dissuading me from helping his site out, which i believe the price I asked for for two very serious bugs was completely reasonable.
Yes and you agreed with 1.1 BTC didn't you!?judging from the language used, the admin of the site completely distrusts me and dooglus at the moment (lol), and im thinking that its more that the admin is unwilling to pay rather than being unable to judging from the language he used.
Hmm...what language did I use? Did I insult you in any message!?After this message we ourself reported on the forum.
Part 3 (again private messages)
The same day (June 3rd) I apologize to him via private message:
Actually you did speak badly.
I'm sorry if i insult you but you crossed the line when a done deal was not a done deal anymore.
You cant say yes, and then change your mind...
I'm sorry if i insult you but you crossed the line when a done deal was not a done deal anymore.
You cant say yes, and then change your mind...
His respond. He claims he didn't agreed with the terms. omg.
i think you need to understand that i did not agree in the first place, i merely said it was agreeable. feel free to look that word up. i meant that if dooglus was okay with it, then I would agree to that deal. i never agreed to accept it which mean i never backed out of it in the first place.
After this users are collecting points for their signature camapign. Some guys are just writing lies and BS just to get posts. Pathetic.
July 05, 2015, 03:35:03 PM
@jotter, u said: i love to read that shit". Which is the opposit of what u said on ur gambling website, u were telling, i dont want to talk about it or i will mute you, blah blah blah!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
Come invite your friends to join this conversation. So much fun here!
Yeah good idea. I go now. Bye
July 05, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
@jotter, u said: i love to read that shit". Which is the opposit of what u said on ur gambling website, u were telling, i dont want to talk about it or i will mute you, blah blah blah!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
Come invite your friends to join this conversation. So much fun here!
Yeah good idea. I go now. Bye
July 05, 2015, 03:33:43 PM
@jotter, u said: i love to read that shit". Which is the opposit of what u said on ur gambling website, u were telling, i dont want to talk about it or i will mute you, blah blah blah!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
Come invite your friends to join this conversation. So much fun here!
July 05, 2015, 03:31:36 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?
ClamCoin
Yeah... they won't tell their hot secret. As they are making huge money with it. I mean HUGE.
You are being so quick to try and blindly defend yourself that you are not even reading what I'm writing. I am down money (~.5BTC) and I don't care that I get it back just as long as people know that your site is a wasteland.
Thanks for your support.
@jotter, u said: i love to read that shit". Which is the opposit of what u said on ur gambling website, u were telling, i dont want to talk about it or i will mute you, blah blah blah!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
Come invite your friends to join this conversation. So much fun here!
Haha this thread is getting large. Nice to see so much activity in it!
July 05, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
@jotter, u said: i love to read that shit". Which is the opposit of what u said on ur gambling website, u were telling, i dont want to talk about it or i will mute you, blah blah blah!
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
EDIT: look at his childish response below!
look: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
It is obvious u trying to scam people!
EDIT: look at his childish response below!
look: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
July 05, 2015, 03:30:53 PM
These guys are ultimately going to loose players and investors. A gambling site can make good money and run log time with legit business. Without scamming. But I do not understand the point of scamming. And just to scam develop a unique game script. When you can make legit money with it.
Yeah number of bets dropped for 90% since yesterday. As we are BAD.
July 05, 2015, 03:29:23 PM
These guys are ultimately going to loose players and investors. A gambling site can make good money and run log time with legit business. Without scamming. But I do not understand the point of scamming. And just to scam develop a unique game script. When you can make legit money with it.
July 05, 2015, 03:28:43 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?
ClamCoin
Yeah... they won't tell their hot secret. As they are making huge money with it. I mean HUGE.
You are being so quick to try and blindly defend yourself that you are not even reading what I'm writing. I am down money (~.5BTC) and I don't care that I get it back just as long as people know that your site is a wasteland.
July 05, 2015, 03:28:19 PM
The 'What Then' is simple. Your site is flawed. Your management and programming is bad. People should see the evidence brought before them and make a decision for themselves.
My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
although the video doesnt count as proof beyond reasonable doubt, its definitely fishy; are you still planning to open a scam accusation thread against them for this incident? it'd be the second one against these two.
Do it please. I like to read that shit too.
July 05, 2015, 03:26:59 PM
The 'What Then' is simple. Your site is flawed. Your management and programming is bad. People should see the evidence brought before them and make a decision for themselves.
My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
although the video doesnt count as proof beyond reasonable doubt, its definitely fishy; are you still planning to open a scam accusation thread against them for this incident? it'd be the second one against these two.
July 05, 2015, 03:26:46 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?
ClamCoin
The client and server seed along with my cookies have all been changed since. 100% proof is next to impossible... but anyone can easily deduce from what I've brought forward that something clearly wasn't right.
Did they mess with your server seed? Or with everyones server seed?
If you doubt us leave signature campaign. I don't mind.
Happy day
July 05, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Look... even IF it did happen, what then? We can discuss about this all day.
But as you all are so good mathematicians tell me.... Is it possible or not?
The 'What Then' is simple. Your site is flawed. Your management and programming is bad. People should see the evidence brought before them and make a decision for themselves.
My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
Good idea. As we are BAD.
July 05, 2015, 03:25:58 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Look... even IF it did happen, what then? We can discuss about this all day.
But as you all are so good mathematicians tell me.... Is it possible or not?
The 'What Then' is simple. Your site is flawed. Your management and programming is bad. People should see the evidence brought before them and make a decision for themselves.
My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
July 05, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?
ClamCoin
The client and server seed along with my cookies have all been changed since. 100% proof is next to impossible... but anyone can easily deduce from what I've brought forward that something clearly wasn't right.
Did they mess with your server seed? Or with everyones server seed?
If you doubt us leave signature campaign. I don't mind.
July 05, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?
ClamCoin
The client and server seed along with my cookies have all been changed since. 100% proof is next to impossible... but anyone can easily deduce from what I've brought forward that something clearly wasn't right.
Did they mess with your server seed? Or with everyones server seed?
July 05, 2015, 03:22:52 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
I don't bet.
That's exactly my point. I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.
And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row. Who would? It's a stupid bet to make.
My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?
ClamCoin
Yeah... they won't tell their hot secret. As they are making huge money with it. I mean HUGE.
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