Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 177. (Read 1006931 times)

thunderjet ok you've made a pretty convincing case that's some pretty excellent forensic accounting. Do you have any credentials that could qualify you as an expert witness/would you if offered?

^^^

Yep, I saw your Roman post. In re. Susan, she was/is partners with Gene Ransom, at the very least versed in Bitcoin, with being connected to Ransomware (a namesake) at the other extreme.

Iam sure you are right that DCGirl read these posts - her quick reaction prove it, but is she really Susan Wilson? That woman is first class scammer,playing only with big boys(multi-millioners and billionaires).What could she provide to Vernon? Maybe some rich investors,but did not find that any of them were interested for Cryptsy.Except that name for a game Whack a Troll, did not find any real connection.

When I read about Susan Wilson,how she cold blooded using her own children for scamming people,there is no doubt that she is cold,very eloquent,very secure,highly focused and ruthless person which achieves goals by any means neccessary - true machiavellian type of person.On the other hand DCGirl posts are talking that she is quite different - she is also smart,but insecure person,much more emotional.It seems that she had almost fatalistic point of view,that is inevitable that one day she will find her name on this forum - like people convicted to death sentence waiting for a day when executioner will come for them.


But,now when court gave receivership of Cryptsy to plantiffs,I expect that one of first things will be to publish full list of Cryptsy employees,time period of theirs work and salaries.Then we will know all their true identities for sure.Maybe we even see episode dedicated to Cryptsy on BLACKLIST TV serie - BITEBI BITE


I dont know if you see mine post from last week,when I put identity of Cryptsy main financial person Roman Almanza who worked on Cryptsy to the last days:

There is a big difference between a neighbor and an insolvent company facing lawsuits.

First we need to catch Vern
After take him2 remadroom
Give well service in jail
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How else would DCGirl know that the name Susan Wilson is affiliated with her, hence her coming here ASAP to ward off the connection.

All in all, we've witnessed a long con, with Paul Vernon claiming to have gotten in Bitcoin in 2011, then taking a break, with Cryptsy being registered on 2012-02-09T17:45:01.00Z, Paul supposedly not being active again till early 2013 tinkering in Litecoin, then creating a few pools, to bringing Cryptsy to life in less than two months with BitJohn being a cheerleader for the new dude (Paul) on the scene while he (BitJohn/John Hammes) supposedly being in a war zone in Afghanistan playing Cryptsy support sans pay because he thought it was fun, only to later vacant his paid position because ... wait for it... he wasn't being paid enough for ALL the fuckin' work he was doing, his exit coinciding with the divorce filing, with same true for most other higher-ups except Horus, living comfortably numb in the fully paid for condo office-cum-residence on Cryptsy's dime... make that Cryptsy's users' dimes.

Getting completely ripped off by cryptsy was a risk that all of cyptsy's customers walked into with their eyes wide open. At this point, you guys should work on accepting that it is extremely unlikely that anyone will get anything back. If you put thousands of dollars into a risky exchange like this and got burned, sure I feel bad for you. It's a real shame. Crypto suffers across the board everytime this kind of thing happens. With regard to each of Paul's victims, keep in mind that you are lying to yourself if you didn't know that losing all you coins wasn't a definite possible outcome. I liken this to banging a prostitute without a condom and then getting angry when you find out she gave you herpes. This is one instance where your greed, laziness, poor decision making, or a combination of these caught up with you and you paid the price.

Imagine this scenario: 3 neighbors loan a 4th neighbor collectively a chainsaw, a leaf blower, and a lawn mower. Unfortunately, the neighbor's home gets robbed and someone steals the lawn mower. Does that give the neighbor the right to sell his other neighbors' chainsaw and leaf blower, then split the proceeds between all 3? Of course not. So stop with that "they stole from all of us" bullshit. Only a handful of coins were stolen. The rest of the coins could have been fully returned to their rightful owners.


2 crimes occurred here. Someone hacker or insider stole BTC, Doge, LTC, whatever. Then Paul stole all the rest of his depositors coins after bizarrely and seemingly arbitrarily releasing several types of altcoins.

As the developer of casinocoin, we have considered two possible options to recover those coins. The first was to identify cryptsy's wallets, make them unspendable, and generate new coins to distribute to those who could prove their casinocoin balances. We chose not to do this because of the requirement for a hardfork and we would like to urge Cryptsy to return casinocoins to their rightful owners. The second option was to create a new coin and kickoff a program of exchanging current CSC for a new blockchain one by one with personal verification. Paul and anyone associated with Cryptsy or their shill bankruptcy would not be allowed to participate in this and ultimately the coins cryptsy is holding would cease to exist. This is an option that I would still be open to, but again I would rather avoid any sort of centralized action and would rather give those clowns some time to do the right thing and return the CSC to their rightful owners. However, they should be aware that any altcoin could decide to take back their coins trapped in Cryptsy if they decide to do so as a community. The dev can produce a wallet to recover them and the community can endorse the action by the majority simply adopting the modified wallet. If you want this, talk to your devs. Get your coins back. The BTC, LTC, DOGE, whatever holders that were robbed. You're not likely to get anything back if these altcoin communities want their coins back anyway.

Of course he is. Hacker is Vernon and he reads it daily.. how else would he know to change bitebi9 details from Bao to his chinese mistress (which he abandoned his US wife and kids for). How else would Horus, Mullick, Jshock and the others get their info so they can try and protect themselves from the bs they brought on their customers. They only read this thread because they are at the exposure stage and try to downplay what was done.

JShock or Cryptsy_Jim still hasn't given us the plausable story that cryptocracker gave them. JShock complains that people just accuse and put shit on others and don't ask questions. People have repeatedly asked him to give the story that made Paul Vernon think it was plausable.

So lets ask it a final time.

JShock.... or Cryptsy_Jim if you prefer. WHAT was the plausable story that cryptocracker gave Paul Vernon that you were privy to that made him think it was legit? You owe this to the customers whos funds you lost, so please enlighten us or have you gone dark again until another big thing comes out?

From 28th.March,court gave receiveship to plantiffs and Cryptsy is no longer under Vernon control

Perhaps we should notify exchanges of these transactions? btc-e, kraken, etc?

P.S. I think there's a good chance the hacker is following this thread, and may even be participating.

Thunderjet:

Are you sure this is hacker wallet? How do you know?

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337


On 1-18 he sent 241 coins out which got divided up but an interesting detail:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/f5f5cf6bd21b70a2b5062b2e5bf3e14940c161588b49b3c8fc939ccae7ffc735

He sent 2 coins and some change to a kraken account. Presumably, this account would have to have a name on it as well as have log in and ip info associated with it.

$heeple are stupid! bitcoin is non-reversible by design . This forces the users to do business with only people they absolutely trust. Cryptsy had a long pattern of bad behavior. People were stupid risk takers to leave anything in there especially after the paycoin ordeal!    *honeybadger don't give a fekk about cryptsy

Could someone open an Elvis and the president were assassinated thread ? - preferably with all contributors input from this one.

Gleb - it would really take some strain off / distract us all while the class action etc. take all our money/coins

On  a serious note.

New class action against the bitcoin core developers - option or not ?

The chain should have had an anti fraud security feature built in -

Let's look at it another way --

http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-internet-is-controlled-by-14-people-2014-3?r=US&IR=T

We are led to believe the internet is held together by a number of key holders -- all vetted etc.

Bitcoin chain and all altcoins should have had a similar kind of protection.

A number of people should have had the keys -- and only got together on rare occasions like fraud.

Maybe a second tier to make sure the first were acting legit --

This "ledger is secured by its users and transaction being confirmed " crap is flawed -- flawed so much its lost people
their lively-hoods :/

Akin to the coyote ugly joke where one chews off his arm so not to wake her, Paul Vernon chews off the arm draped across him, then steals his wallet and sniffs his BVDs one last time prior to exiting to some far-away land.

Great Job thunderjet.

What do you mean by "on this Bittrex address BTC were coming from Cryptsy old wallet almost until court seized it" ?

Are you saying until the Court Seized the Cryptsy Wallet?

If so, I haven't read anything about the Receiver having any actual wallets, let alone the keys.

Thanks

What I posted was meant to be an exercise in absurdity. We don't expect to get that CSC back. That being said, our community deserves their casinocoin and I don't think they should lose $3m+ to Paul's scam if we hit our targets this year. 99% of the other altcoins that they  are holding are basically worthless. Most were worthless before cryptsy collapsed and the event will serve to thin the herd whether you like it or not.

I expect the coins to be liquidated in the short term as part of the receivership process. Cryptsy and the other creditors will not likely benefit from a possible rise in CSC if that happens soon.

As to enticing people to buy CSC, that ship sailed 6 months ago. 85% are in the hands of people that back the current venture and will not be returning to general circulation anytime soon. It's likely too late for anyone to come in and buy up a significant amount of coins at at windfall price.

BTW, I don't think you have a hope of getting anything substantial back. Maybe in 4 years you get 5% back if you are lucky. Cryptsy is a bloated dead corpse that's been picked over by vultures (Paul) and flies (Paul's friends).

I wish you the best of luck in getting your coins back, ThePhwner (edited to correct name) .

HEY

you know I almost forgot all about CRYPTSY !!

until I logged in and saw I once posted to this thread,

like a bad memory of something I did on a weekend years ago !!

I hope you realize that you look like a total paid shill for CSC and that continuing to urge people to invest in another bullshit altcoin, especially in this particular thread, makes you look like an ass. There are people here trying to ascertain what happened, hoping for some recovery of their stolen funds, and you keep posting about using some shitcoin to gamble. There's probably a better thread for that.