Topic: DADICE : exposing investors to more risk than their kelly, misleading informatio - page 8. (Read 6852 times)
July 09, 2015, 04:13:05 AM
July 09, 2015, 04:04:18 AM
looks like dadice is finally turning into the most dilettantish and unsuccessfull dice scam so far 
Not at all, we are just demonstrating who is a liar and whiner here.
How can you deny that that information on your website is misleading?
I am willing to help you improve your website but then you should show respect for people willing to help you.
Dadice has a lot of opportunities to become one of the largest dice sites but you just keep wasting them...
July 09, 2015, 04:04:08 AM
I advise you to reply me on skype asap to discuss everything
please keep the discussion on here so we can all have a laugh. thanks.
July 09, 2015, 04:02:30 AM
Dadice, I am trying to help you
Help you implement the kelly criterion.
I mentioned the investor bug, I could have just taken a lot of money out of it without anyone noticing it. But I didn't, I declared the problem immediately to you
why did i lose 29% of a 1000 btc bankroll after a 19 btc bet?
there is divested right before and invested right after, suspicious^2, would be nice if you could declare those details
I am trying to help the site to become trustworthy and get rid of all the bugs, but maybe a little bit respect for me should not be a bad idea
In the chat the only thing I did was explaining the kelly criterion before getting the ban... Don't see any reason for the ban...
I advise you to reply me on skype asap to discuss everything
Help you implement the kelly criterion.
I mentioned the investor bug, I could have just taken a lot of money out of it without anyone noticing it. But I didn't, I declared the problem immediately to you
why did i lose 29% of a 1000 btc bankroll after a 19 btc bet?
there is divested right before and invested right after, suspicious^2, would be nice if you could declare those details
I am trying to help the site to become trustworthy and get rid of all the bugs, but maybe a little bit respect for me should not be a bad idea
In the chat the only thing I did was explaining the kelly criterion before getting the ban... Don't see any reason for the ban...
I advise you to reply me on skype asap to discuss everything
July 09, 2015, 04:01:58 AM
looks like dadice is finally turning into the most dilettantish and unsuccessfull dice scam so far
Not at all, we are just demonstrating who is a liar and whiner here.
I really don't care who of you immature weirdos is whining/lying more. but please keep on entertaining me
July 09, 2015, 03:59:58 AM
leen93, you don't talk good about them, but you take their signature …
I am not talking good or bad about them. I am just talking about the truth. About the non-implementation of the kelly criterion you just can't say anything good.I didn't get paid for a long time for my sign campaign but don't mind too much about this, just want all problems at dadice solved. That's where I am caring the most about right now.
Another lie: You have never signed up to be in our campaign. Proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/da-dice-signature-campaign-2o-closed-1078943
July 09, 2015, 03:58:22 AM
looks like dadice is finally turning into the most dilettantish and unsuccessfull dice scam so far
Not at all, we are just demonstrating who is a liar and whiner here.
July 09, 2015, 03:46:36 AM
Reserved.
July 09, 2015, 03:45:31 AM
looks like dadice is finally turning into the most dilettantish and unsuccessfull dice scam so far
July 09, 2015, 03:44:56 AM
Hello leen, how are you today?
Well to be honest this thread was no unexpected at all, for most us know how much of a manipulative and crooked fellow you are. I hope you will read my entire post and the ones followed by it patiently, as there are some big disappointments coming up for you.
First of all, you have once again proved your self as a liar as no staff ever said we will not pay them, what was said there, we will soon post screenshot of that right here in its original context. But let us all understand the history of leen93 and fuck ups it has caused us. For starters, when you came in site chat for very first time, we welcomed you there, a mod even added you to our customer relations group in Skype, but you spurned all our good efforts by making this (what you can only refer to as: stupid) post here in BCT:
And then anyhow after creating a class A whore-show there, you still decided to invest money with Da Dice. Right at those times, people also won 9 BTC and even more, as well as some lost their monies as well. Your investments did go down for a while and then later came back in profit too, which is the nature of gambling.
The point I am trying to make here is that you are one of our early players and you're aware of how system used to work because that is exactly the same way it still works today. Astonishingly, you didn't have this problem when your investments made some profit nor you had this problem when you won a 18 BTC in a single roll yourself.
https://stats.dadice.com/b/117880797
https://stats.dadice.com/b/117785803
https://stats.dadice.com/b/110540608
Of course you wanted to withdraw it all immediately after you had won, which you did and we honored your withdrawal request as always.
Later, when you decided to come back and when your investments reached a reasonable amount of 15 BTC. We even provided you a cold storage address of your own, which had a public note "for leen93". That is how we deal with all our private investors, so they know their funds are secure and all our private investors are happy with this. We do NOT require any suggestions any more in this area.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS
So this is part of your working history with us, above. And given your rude, mean and offensive history, we always showed our patience and continued to do so. After all above events, investment program was finally made private. Everything was fine until 3 days ago, when you contacted us on support asking to open investment option for you, which we rejected 3 times!!
The reason why we didn't want you back as an investor is your given mean and offensive history, and also you are not consistent with your investments unlike our other private investors. Looks like you are one those who only like profit, and can't breath when they are in minor loss. Yes! I just called you a whining gambler
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P.S. Every body please hold your horses very tightly, as this post is exclusively for leen. We will soon post our official response on the actual issue, we just wanted to start by introducing leen93.
Well to be honest this thread was no unexpected at all, for most us know how much of a manipulative and crooked fellow you are. I hope you will read my entire post and the ones followed by it patiently, as there are some big disappointments coming up for you.
First of all, you have once again proved your self as a liar as no staff ever said we will not pay them, what was said there, we will soon post screenshot of that right here in its original context. But let us all understand the history of leen93 and fuck ups it has caused us. For starters, when you came in site chat for very first time, we welcomed you there, a mod even added you to our customer relations group in Skype, but you spurned all our good efforts by making this (what you can only refer to as: stupid) post here in BCT:
OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM THE OWNER OF DADICE IN SKYPE:
"NOTHING CAN STOP DADICE FROM RUNNING AWAY WITH INVESTOR'S FUNDS"
"NOTHING CAN STOP DADICE FROM RUNNING AWAY WITH INVESTOR'S FUNDS"
And then anyhow after creating a class A whore-show there, you still decided to invest money with Da Dice. Right at those times, people also won 9 BTC and even more, as well as some lost their monies as well. Your investments did go down for a while and then later came back in profit too, which is the nature of gambling.
The point I am trying to make here is that you are one of our early players and you're aware of how system used to work because that is exactly the same way it still works today. Astonishingly, you didn't have this problem when your investments made some profit nor you had this problem when you won a 18 BTC in a single roll yourself.
https://stats.dadice.com/b/117880797
https://stats.dadice.com/b/117785803
https://stats.dadice.com/b/110540608
Of course you wanted to withdraw it all immediately after you had won, which you did and we honored your withdrawal request as always.
Later, when you decided to come back and when your investments reached a reasonable amount of 15 BTC. We even provided you a cold storage address of your own, which had a public note "for leen93". That is how we deal with all our private investors, so they know their funds are secure and all our private investors are happy with this. We do NOT require any suggestions any more in this area.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS
So this is part of your working history with us, above. And given your rude, mean and offensive history, we always showed our patience and continued to do so. After all above events, investment program was finally made private. Everything was fine until 3 days ago, when you contacted us on support asking to open investment option for you, which we rejected 3 times!!
The reason why we didn't want you back as an investor is your given mean and offensive history, and also you are not consistent with your investments unlike our other private investors. Looks like you are one those who only like profit, and can't breath when they are in minor loss. Yes! I just called you a whining gambler
---
P.S. Every body please hold your horses very tightly, as this post is exclusively for leen. We will soon post our official response on the actual issue, we just wanted to start by introducing leen93.
July 09, 2015, 03:06:43 AM
Too bad you didn't read at least some pages of the previous scam accusation. This has been known for a while and obviously DD didn't do much about it:
The fact more people knew this before doesn't make it less urgent to change it...Actually it is very strange they had a fixed max 20 coin profit too. How does that work with investors and kelly selections ? :s The max profit must be based on the invested amount and with the kelly selection the investor is selecting the max loss (= max profit for player) per bet he can have. This is how all dice invest sites work.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is
Now, with more and more investors and different kelly selections, the picture is even more bizarre
Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546
..Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546
No it is not. We have a maximum payout of 20 btc currently.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is
July 09, 2015, 02:46:04 AM
UPDATE : The investment option just got removed for me and a chat ban has been given to me. Getting any contact with the staff about the kelly criterion was not possible till now...
July 09, 2015, 02:43:03 AM
Too bad you didn't read at least some pages of the previous scam accusation. This has been known for a while and obviously DD didn't do much about it:
The fact more people knew this before doesn't make it less urgent to change it... Actually it is very strange they had a fixed max 20 coin profit too. How does that work with investors and kelly selections ? :s The max profit must be based on the invested amount and with the kelly selection the investor is selecting the max loss (= max profit for player) per bet he can have. This is how all dice invest sites work.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is
Now, with more and more investors and different kelly selections, the picture is even more bizarre
Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546
..Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546
No it is not. We have a maximum payout of 20 btc currently.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is
July 09, 2015, 02:42:19 AM
leen93, you don't talk good about them, but you take their signature …
I am not talking good or bad about them. I am just talking about the truth. About the non-implementation of the kelly criterion you just can't say anything good.I didn't get paid for a long time for my sign campaign but don't mind too much about this, just want all problems at dadice solved. That's where I am caring the most about right now.
July 09, 2015, 02:35:58 AM
leen93, you don't talk good about them, but you take their signature …
July 09, 2015, 02:31:13 AM
Too bad you didn't read at least some pages of the previous scam accusation. This has been known for a while and obviously DD didn't do much about it:
Actually it is very strange they had a fixed max 20 coin profit too. How does that work with investors and kelly selections ? :s The max profit must be based on the invested amount and with the kelly selection the investor is selecting the max loss (= max profit for player) per bet he can have. This is how all dice invest sites work.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is
Now, with more and more investors and different kelly selections, the picture is even more bizarre
Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546
..Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546
No it is not. We have a maximum payout of 20 btc currently.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is
July 09, 2015, 02:25:08 AM
From all of that, I would really like to see the part where you say they said to you that..
That above is a game changer and no doubt if you have proof they said this then you are going to have a nice big offer to keep it to yourself,, but you should protect the community and not greed and release proof of this.
I am standing by waiting to see this proof.
If they don't implement the kelly criterion I'll post a proof of this. If they implement it soon this fact will be completely irrelevant. Quote
If I ask what would happen if someone would win 100 x 20 btc (and investments would all be negative) he just said : "we will not pay him the won amount".
That above is a game changer and no doubt if you have proof they said this then you are going to have a nice big offer to keep it to yourself,, but you should protect the community and not greed and release proof of this.
I am standing by waiting to see this proof.
July 09, 2015, 01:47:00 AM
From all of that, I would really like to see the part where you say they said to you that..
That above is a game changer and no doubt if you have proof they said this then you are going to have a nice big offer to keep it to yourself,, but you should protect the community and not greed and release proof of this.
I am standing by waiting to see this proof.
Quote
If I ask what would happen if someone would win 100 x 20 btc (and investments would all be negative) he just said : "we will not pay him the won amount".
That above is a game changer and no doubt if you have proof they said this then you are going to have a nice big offer to keep it to yourself,, but you should protect the community and not greed and release proof of this.
I am standing by waiting to see this proof.
July 08, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
I talk to them tomorrow on skype. I just got mutted in the chat because I announced this...
So in the end they use the last thing they can do to silence this issue by muting you. Quite a honorable action from them to their investor. Censorship means people are hiding some stuff up on their sleeve
So question is why would you even want to put investment in there ?
. This is a warning for the others because Kelly criterion is a standard thing in gambling industry, if they dont know how to do this properly then people should stay away from this 
July 08, 2015, 02:47:56 PM
I talk to them tomorrow on skype. I just got mutted in the chat because I announced this...
So in the end they use the last thing they can do to silence this issue by muting you. Quite a honorable action from them to their investor. Censorship means people are hiding some stuff up on their sleeve
So question is why would you even want to put investment in there ?
. This is a warning for the others because Kelly criterion is a standard thing in gambling industry, if they dont know how to do this properly then people should stay away from this Jump to: