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July 04, 2014, 09:04:13 AM
Ok i didn't understand even the first 5 lines. Sorry to say, whole topic is much of the bullshit.

It's nothing wrong with this brilliant topic, it's your IQ that cannot grasp and you have to make idiotic reply (your defense mechanism) as you wouldn't feel sheer stupidness.
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July 04, 2014, 08:42:03 AM
Ok i didn't understand even the first 5 lines. Sorry to say, whole topic is much of the bullshit.
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July 04, 2014, 08:36:13 AM
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Subject: Armstrong's amazing economics correlation prediction models
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, July 4, 2014 9:03 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Kudos to Martin Armstrong (the former $1+ trillion hedge fund manager of the Japanese Postal fund-- largest fund ever) on getting back focused on his expert computerized A.I. models (and stop wasting time trying to convince socialist citizens to reform themselves or blaming everything on bureaucrats and not also on the socialist citizens)...

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/07/03/then-now-always-the-same/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/07/02/when-will-the-monetary-system-crack/



Quote from: Armstrong
This previous 8.6 year wave that peaked in 2007.15 was just the beginning with the realization of the Sovereign Debt Crisis. The current wave that peaks in 2015.75 should start the debt crisis with more government being forced into insolvency. This is what the IMF proposal is all about and the Fed looking to impose an exit tax on the most liquid market in the world – US debt. The next wave 2024.35 will be the pulling apart of the world monetary system and the peak of this wave in 2032.95 is most likely where the tangible assets rise as a store of value in a world of uncertainty with respect to the medium of exchange.

Regarding the comparison of today to the peak and decline of the Athens empire, I note from the following chronological timeline:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_ancient_Greece

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/democracy/qt/121009AthensTimeline.htm

So 408 B.C. for Athens should correlate to 2032 A.D. for us now. Interestingly we see that in 433-432 B.C. the Greek empire coalition fails and infighting begins. That was 24-25 years before the peak in 408 (count backwards in B.C. time) so that would correspond to 2007-8 now which is exactly when the first stage of the sovereign debt crisis exploded with Sub-Prime defaults in the USA.

Also note that infighting was due to economic decline and a fight for available resources, which is similar now to how teachers' unions in the USA are saying to raise taxes to pay their salaries and retirement plans. Raising taxes will further implode economic activity and collapse the economy. The problem is we spent more than we had, and now the defaults and decline are unavoidable.

We can see on the timeline that up until 426-425, Athens grew stronger than the peripheral regions and was defeating them. Then by 414 (which will correspond to our 2016), Athens (which corresponds to our USA) started to fall weaker than the periphery in battle.

The USA is clearly coming stronger right now as capital is fleeing the rest of the world (periphery) and into USA stocks and real estate as a safe haven. But 2016 will mark the peak of the USA.

Then you can see that by 416-415 (our 2024), Athens (the USA!) falls to massacres and total chaos.

And then by 408 (our 2032), Athens falls over a cliff economically and socially until hitting rock bottom in 404.

Then after 404, the public wave starts where even Socrates is executed by the idealistic youth government that takes over. Don't forget the generational wave research I shared previously which predicts this nasty Orwellian control aspect of the public wave which follows 2032:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6551625

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6551755


So here is what we can expect. USA will grow stronger until 2016, then it will decline until finally total chaos by 2024. There could be a lot of war before 2024, probably after 2018 or so. Between 2024 and 2032 will be total chaos as the world fights capitulation, until there is finally total capitulation in 2032 and then we crash into a global economic bottom by 2036.

So 2016 is the beginning of the slide into the abyss. And it will get worse until 2036. Twenty years of worsening suffering.

But during that time, high technology (e.g. robotics, 3d printing, crypto-currency) will prosper and many in high tech will become very rich. Remember the Oxford study in 2013 predicted 47% of all existing jobs will be replaced by computer automation with the 20 years to 2032-33.

This period will be very unfamiliar to most people as the world is shifting from socialism to autonomous, decentralized sovereign high tech individuals.

The Knowledge Age is replacing the Industrial Age:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212

Collectivized society will decline and shrink economically into a bottom in 2036, while the Knowledge Age will grow all during this period.

This is my final communication.


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Subject: Question: timing on the bottom for BRICs, NICs?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, July 4, 2014 1:17 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Okay Western civilization falls off the capitulation cliff 2032 and
bottoms 2036 as the Public Wave begins.

When do the BRICs, NICs countries bottom?

How far back do they collapse? 1992 level? 1999 level? 2007 level?
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June 28, 2014, 11:20:26 PM
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Subject: Successful people don't waste time
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, June 29, 2014 12:18 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/28/22227/

Quote from: Armstrong
My point is not to protect the billionaires – it is to protect society from those that plunder everything we have. The only viable solution is to restrict the size of government. I disagree with the social state for it would be cheaper for just about everything to be private and far less corruption. They started the income tax swearing they were only targeting the rich – lie. Then they started the payroll tax so they could give you social security – now people pay more in SS than taxes and they keep raising the age and reducing the payouts. If you want to believe these people are honest and care about you, great. Have a nice dream. When it comes time to collect – well you will discover your entire life trusting them was wrong. Then what? You die in some ditch dead broke and nothing to support you when you can no longer work?


Martin surely you are smart enough to realize that the socialist citizens who believe in socialism will never listen to what you are writing above.

And those who will listen to you do not have the power to overthrow the corrupt governments and rescue the socialist citizens from themselves. The corrupt governments have the power because the socialist citizens give it to them and will not wake up.

So why are you wasting time?

I hope I can read something from you soon which realistic.

What you should be doing with your valuable time and resources instead is working on replacing the internet with an anonymous decentralized model that will provide an outlet for free speech and virtual commerce. Tor is and other low-latency chaum mix-nets are not immune to NSA snooping. We need something better.

And you should be advising people on how to opt-out of the morass, so they can continue to do commerce (investing, etc) as the entire global morass crashes into the abyss.

I don't see any way to opt-out and separate myself from those socialist citizens other than with anonymity technology on the internet.

I could buy stocks and real estate, but eventually the socialism will so bankrupt itself (i.e. the 10% confiscation in Europe will worsen the economy and demand greater confiscation rates) that it will clawback any such investments as these are traceable.

You are hoping the people will blink and such a Dark Age will be averted.

The people are rising up as predicted by your model, but it appears to me this will be symbolic only and all will remain within the socialist system, because the western world is dominated by old boomers who depend on the free entitlements. Even most of the youth have been indoctrinated into socialism, feminism, gay rights, environmentalism, student debt, etc.. See Greece, Ireland, and Ukraine as recent examples of uprisings that failed. The powers-that-be are successfully destroying the self-reliant cultures in these nations and moving many of the citizens further onto their system of dependence and debt.

Thus I don't believe the USA will successfully disintegrate. Third parties will rise, but Hillary Clinton will win the next dictatorship in 2016 and she will lockdown the USA with militarized police and UN "gun control specialists". They will open the floodgates on immigration as necessary to achieve the Hillary popular vote.

You are conflating the rising tide of discontent in your model with a successful disintegration away from socialism, but in fact the socialism is becoming more engrained everywhere except in Iceland. Which is exactly what I predicted in my 2010 essay which was widely syndicated on the internet:

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Understand%20Everything%20Fundamentally.html#europe

http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/understand-everything-fundamentally


Quote from: AnonyMint
Coase’s theorem says that an inefficient internal order will continue for as long as there remains an unavoidable frictional barrier insulating it from the more efficient external possibilities. The fundamental reason the EU crisis will not result in a disintegration of the union, at least not until its people significantly abandon collectivism, is that organisms which are unable to comprehend the mechanism by which they are consuming resources faster than their ecosystem can replenish, thus are unable to stop the mechanism before they perish. So the implosion of the friction and thus the order only occurs when they perish, because they will continue to repeat the mechanism which they do not understand to be a cause of their suffering. This can be verified in a petri dish, as an organism will reproduce until it consumes all of its food or oxygen. Due to the lack of a pre-frontal cortex, it is unable to comprehend the connection of reproduction to unsustainability. Unfortunately, even though humans have a pre-frontal cortex, they do not comprehend that debt, insurance, bonds, fractional reserve money, and centralized governance, cause the demand (and thus production) of resources to be overconcentrated in sectors of the ecosystem that create a less productive future. In the next section, I will explain that these financialization mechanisms cause collective failure and thus demand ever increasing centralization (i.e. “too big to fail”), because from their inception they all pool capital. Thus they are always collectivism.

    “It amazes that otherwise bright people can’t understand the simple concept that economic collapse doesn’t convert collectivists into anarchists.”

Thus the people are blind to the mechanism which is enslaving them and reducing their prosperity. Thus, since they will not change the mechanism, centralization of governance will grow stronger from the current financial crisis, and will diminish only when the involved organisms perish. Entropy is continuously culling the center of the bell curve so that knowledge can advance. I make no political judgment when I state factually that these mega-death cullings take many forms, e.g. abortions kill 42 million annually, it is reasonable to assume birth control probably more than that, some statistics claim that governments and wars have killed a couple 100 million in the past century, totalitarianism (the political end of pooling resources) kills millions, drugs and medications probably kill millions, cancer rates are double in the ‘developed’ world (the countries with financialization), and arguably GMO food may add to that. I am not making a political judgment on reproduction, rather to state the fact that actuarial economics are constrained and politically intractable without a sufficient population of youth. And as will be explained with the entropic force, it is the antithesis of knowledge formation, to a have uniform (replicated) social action.

    “Currency wars are like [...] slap wars, trade wars is where the knives come out.”

        “Currency wars > trade wars > hot wars.”

Europe is predominantly retirees (low or negative birth rates exacerbate this), that own various european country bonds via their retirement plans. If interest rates go up, the bond values decline, and their retirement is toast. The politics is to appease subconscious denial, which is why you see Merkel talking tough and simultaneously making gradual steps towards centralized printing and fiscal controls. The savers want to penalize the non-savers, under some illusion that they can convert the non-savers, but they don’t accept culpability for causing the problem with a collectivist form of saving. If the collectivist non-savers were converted to collectivist savers, then who would borrow? Illogical.

Thus, the savers are blind to the fact they too are collectivists. Productive europeans (e.g. Germans) want to have a fixed interest rate return by loaning money to less productive sectors who can buy their exports. Now they want to deny they are subconsciously in support of money printing, because they also don’t want their fixed income to disintegrate (even though it will be debased either way). Due to the psychological phenomenon of ‘false attribution error’ (i.e. blaming the stone that one tripped on, a form of cognitive dissonance), they want to be the victim who will spank and control the bad PIIGS, via increased centralized control. Neither the savers nor the borrowers are the victim, they all are collectivists and being culled by the entropic force. Note, Germany’s debt ratio is as bad as the USA and Canada.

Fiscal centralization to come next (link explains how), with copious money printing and centralized rationing (i.e. austerity and/or price controls). The recent health care legislation in the USA, is price controls and rationing. The only prosperous fix for health care, was to eliminate insurance a priori so that individuals could maximize and individualize their preparations for aging. I will explain that pooled savings, i.e. insurance, is collectivism and thus automatically wasted.

My outlook is optimistic, in that those who understand how to avoid collectivism, facilitate maximum knowledge formation and efficiency of market fitness, will prosper and (they and their offspring will) survive entropic culling.
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June 28, 2014, 02:07:10 PM
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Subject: Global elite to control all real property tracked in the 666-like  Technocracy
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, June 28, 2014 3:06 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/28/collapse-of-democracy-in-europe/

Quote from: Armstrong
I have explained numerous times that to cover up defaults, you need to change the system. This is what we see underway here in Europe. They are pushing even Basel IV that will be the usurpation of all control to the Bank of International Settlements and the IMF. They fear massive bank failures and sovereign debt failures and they are not prepared to reform the monetary system for fear of a loss of power. Therefore, they are seeking to usurp ALL power and create essentially a de facto communist-style state that controls every aspect of the economy. They will stop short of communism insofar as actually taking title to all property. Instead, this will be more of a fascist type state where you retain ownership in name, but they dictate what can and cannot be done. Moving to electronic currency is part of the game. They will cut off the underground economy in their eyes and force everything into the open. Spain has passed new laws allowing the taxation of bank accounts directly. This is what we see on the future after 2015.75.

This is not a collapse of democracy. This _IS_ the power vacuum of democracy. The NPs will whine, but when push comes to shove, most of the socialists citizens want their cake and eat it too, so they will acquiesce to the power that feeds them government entitlements, such as free healthcare, pensions, etc..

Can any say "anonymous crypto-currency"? Wink

Only frontiers have ever saved collective mankind sheepeople from their themselves.
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June 28, 2014, 01:52:43 PM
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Subject: Global elite managing the dumb sheeople
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, June 28, 2014 2:51 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Come on Martin, wake up from your myopic idealism and naivete.

The USA and Russia are working together to destroy Ukraine's sovereignty, because the people there tried to be somewhat self-reliant. The global elite want to destroy all attempts at self-reliance as this competes with their global hegemony plans.

The USA (and global elite) knew far in advance about ISIS and did nothing:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182064#.U68KFkAryho

Because they are the ones who designed and fostered this outcome. They want to destabilize the Middle East as this serves several objectives in terms of moving the self-reliant portions of the world into the 666-like Technocracy.

Do you remember the quote of Kissinger promising "blue hats" in the USA one day. And so now it approaches:

http://www.infowars.com/un-accelerates-plan-for-global-gun-confiscation-after-collapse/

This is why they destroyed the USA and Europe with multi-culturalism, feminism, environmentalism, etc...

http://www.infowars.com/uc-professor-immigration-influx-is-about-re-education-of-society/

How much longer are you going to remain a buffoon?

I expect a man of your intellect can be rational and learn.
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June 28, 2014, 12:48:41 PM
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Subject: Selfless Armstrong can't grasp the true nature of the power vacuum  of democracy
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, June 28, 2014 1:42 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/28/london-the-labour-socialists/

Quote from: Armstrong
The socialists argue it is not fair that they do not pay tax on their income to them. But they earn nothing there in Britain – they just spend there income in town. They certainly pay in taxes more than they fair share of any government services, yet what is ignored is they do not have to stay there. If they leave, the unemployment and bankruptcy rate in London would soar...

The problem we have is simply government consumes way too much and it is the lining of their pockets with pensions that can never be paid. It is not that the international rich do not contribute to the local economy for they certainly do. The problem has been government is consuming more than 40% of everything with no end in sight. You cannot tax your way out of this situation. It will never be resolved. Tax the international rich and they will simply leave...

They only way any permanent solution can be accomplished is to reform government and bring it within the means of society.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/28/its-about-fairness/

Quote from: Armstrong
A socialist, of course, would never do that. It is all about taking what someone else earns to get even with the world for their own failures.

Most of us give something at Christmas or Hanukkah for two reasons – (1) we like to see a smile of their face, and (2) it does feel good to give. You can tell a greedy socialist from the outset. They only take and give nothing back and use socialism as a scoreboard to justify themselves basically robbing other people using a pen.


Martin Armstrong is a selfless (unselfish) guy who reminds me in some ways of my grandfather who would LITERALLY give you the shirt off his back if you asked him to without any valid reason needed (unfortunately we mischievous grandchildren actually tested that theory). I love that man, so sad he is no longer will us. See his image at my sister's college graduation (CPA like him) attached.

Because of his desire to see people basically as good, Martin apparently can't comprehend that nonevil (normal, good) people do collectively selfish things unknowingly and this is nature. Martin is thus hell bent on blaming bureaucrats and other overtly selfish people for the problem of democracy. Armstrong apparently thinks he could just eliminate the selfish ones, then nirvana would be achieved.

Tonight at dinner in Davao, Mindanao, Philippines, I met an older man from Norway. He seemed to be a very cordial, jovial, unselfish (he offered me a free beer which I declined because I don't drink), and upstanding person (he mentioned the Australian who was caught in Cebu this week with a dozen minors in his resort hotel room).

Then he told me he admired the Russian (communism) model, but he lamented the socialism model failed because of corruption. I mentioned the potential EU collapse, and he mentioned rampant speculators in stocks as his logic for the cause. I told him that businesses would leave Europe because the taxes (and regulations) were too high.

His perspective is that a fair society is one that takes care of everyone and that companies can afford to pay taxes and that evasion must be stopped on a global basis. He was all in support of the destruction of the sovereignty of these developing countries who are being ushered into the global Technocracy system. His point is the only way to have a fair society is the have control over all the corruption, thus Technocracy (666-like) system is fair.

This is the way many (perhaps up to half or more) of the people of the world think. They are not selfish, evil people. They just believe that big corporations would keep everything for themselves if they weren't taxed.

What these people don't realize of course is that global elite are managing this march to a global Technocracy, and that giving everyone everything guaranteed demotivates people to compete and innovate.

So the failure of the power vacuum of democracy has nothing to do with personal selfish and unselfish attitudes.

It has everything to do with the ignorance in the Bell Curve. And this can never be changed.

Nature periodically culls the population due to its ignorant desire for socialism. This is natural.

Only frontiers have ever provided a release valve from socialism collapsing (even into a Dark Age).

There has never been and never will be a permanent fix.

In fact, a permanent fix would be so against thermodynamics and the factors which motivate the creation of knowledge and life itself, that I am really surprised Armstrong hasn't come to this conclusion. I urge him to read the following blog article of mine very, very carefully and take some quite time to reflect on the science of it:

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html
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June 26, 2014, 11:42:38 PM
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Subject: How the banksters end up owning everything (at the end times of  the Bible)
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, June 27, 2014 12:37 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/26/argentina-fights-back/

Quote from: Armstrong
Argentina is then left with trying to settle with people who were NOT the original investors that they have labelled “vulture funds”. Argentina’s position they have stated bluntly: “7 percent of bondholders did not accept the restructuring. The vulture funds that secured a ruling in their favour are not original lenders to Argentina. They purchased bonds in default at obscenely low prices for the sole purpose of engaging in litigation against Argentina and making an enormous profit. Paul Singer’s NML fund, for example, in 2008 paid only 48.7 million dollars for bonds in default. Judge Griesa’s ruling now orders that it be paid an amount of 832 million dollars, i.e. a gain of 1608 percent in only six years.”

On the one hand, the original investor was willing to settle for less, but the buyer wants 100%. Britain sold student loans for pennies on the pound. They did not give the students the right to pay off those loans at the same rate they sold the loans. There too, the students should have been allowed to pay off their loans at that reduced price.

The globalist bankster business model to own everything:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/06.11/owntheearth.html

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.10/thinklikeabanker.html

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During the collapse of the Soviet Union, a few Oligarchs seized more than half of ALL of the wealth in the former super power

They bought companies the size of Exxon Mobil for a few hundred million dollars. They bought huge tracts of land for nothing, to harvest incredible lumber and minerals. They bought media conglomerates and entire auto and aero industries for pennies on the dollar. The collapse of the Soviet Empire due to its inability to service the debts. This brought about the most amazing transfer of wealth the world has ever seen. Seeming overnight, former cab drivers and teachers became billionaires. Now before you think that these guys were self made men, they were not. They were front men for the Rothschilds and were given hard money and their own banks to go forth and buy assets for pennies on the dollars when there was no money. This is the same thing Greece is going through right now. Greece’s best lands and assets are being sold right now to Elitists for nothing. The Elite will then turn around and raise rates to the consumers and reap huge returns on investment. Again, all with money created out of thin air. What a sick system we have!

Let's not forget the banksters sent your buddy Larry Summers over to Russia after the collapse to coordinate this.

Yet, the nimcompoop Armstrong still thinks it is uncoordinated, myopic bureaucrats running the global system by random chance.

Sheesh!

If he just did a smidgen of research, he can't possibly continue to deny.
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June 26, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
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Subject: As Lindsey Williams predicted years ago,  the Middle East will erupted into Muslim war
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, June 26, 2014 1:22 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article46148.html

Pastor Lindsey Williams is friends with retired high level oil industry executives who alerted him years ago to the plans of the global elite to create an Arab Spring to destabilize the Middle East in order to drive all marginal oil supply back to the USA in order to reorganize their global hegemony.

You can clearly see the USA aided and abetted this outcome on purpose starting with destabilizing Iraq, even now not supporting the remaining strong regimes in the region (even refusing to do drone airstrikes) in order to aid it to fall into chaos.

The global elite clearly are implementing their plan to create chaos in order to drive the people of the world into begging for security and order, which can only be provided by the global elite (and their control over all the major sources of production and their capture of the fiat central banking system and thus government).

This is all exactly as portrayed on the strange murals at the Denver airport, where the world is first plunged into chaos, death, and war, before the idealistic youth will join hands in 2032 to usher in a new world order of peace and 666 control.

Meanwhile Martin Armstrong pisses away our time and effort ranting about the irrelevant pawns known as bureaucrats.

Armstrong is a computer programmer. If was really serious, he would be working with us to create the technological solutions.

I wonder if he is working for the global elite? How can he be so blinded to what is going on?

Sheesh!

This is very serious!
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June 25, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Society never wakes up;   stupid question exhibits an ignorant understanding of history
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, June 25, 2014 11:02 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Biometrics are underway in India too.

Armstrong is clueless about the plans underway to create 666 society.

I will pass this on to him without quoting your name.

> Locked in to technocratic neofeudal "socialism" is right.
> Not really news, but I just read a short commentary about Nigerian central banks forcing biometrics on account holders.
> http://www.thedailysheeple.com/central-banks-in-other-countries-to-require-biometrics-to-bank_062014 You tipped me off (from something Martin wrote?) about Larry Summers, Trilateralist with a long rap sheet in the highest positions in
> international banking, saying at the November IMF meeting it was time to move towards digital currency and a cashless society.  Recall Summers was sent to Russia in the mid 90s (when its economy was deliberately imploded by apex globalists) to advise on the privatization of publicly owned assets into the hands of a select few, thus creating the rise of eight powerful oligarchs, seven of whom happened to be Jewish.
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June 24, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
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Subject: Armstrong conflates frontiers with sheep waking up
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, June 25, 2014 12:24 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/24/will-society-ever-wake-up/

Quote from: Armstrong
Of course. If society did not wake up now and then, the outcome would always be the same – a dark age. The late 1700s was a revolution against monarchy – i.e. American Revolution. Then there was the overthrow of the kings and birth of Roman Republic in 509 BC. Each of these two events was followed by a contagion where the first inspired the French Revolution and the latter the Athenian revolution giving birth to Democracy. Then there was the collapse of Communism that began in China and spread to Russia and Eastern Europe as a contagion.

There has NEVER been a global Dark Age, e.g. the Dark Age in Western Rome birthed the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) empire. The Dark Age in Japan (where they used only rice as money) did not impact the entire world.

In prior communications I had explained the French Revolution replaced a monarchy with a dictator (Napoleon) and the Athenian society was run by an exclusive voting power amongst the slave owners. Never have the sheep been uncontrolled by the power structure that fills the power vacuum of democracy. NEVER!

The birth of America was, just like the Roman Empire, a new frontier. In the Roman case it was the security of the soldiers who were paid with bounty from conquests that opened up a road network which made agricultural commerce more efficient. In the American case it was the frontier and resources of the moving westward.

Never did the sheep wake up. Our American constitution was flawed from the outset, and the power structure was always in control, not the people.

Again I can't seem to get the hard-headed man to appreciate from history that only frontiers have ever provided an escape from the failure of collective society. And formerly there existed geographical frontiers, but those don't exist any more. Thus the power structure (the oligarchy) that is in control now has an absolute mandate to take us into a global Dark Age, if not for the technological frontier.

ONLY the hackers can save us now.
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June 24, 2014, 11:03:50 PM
I have a friend in Ethiopia so I was also aware of how controlled the internet and telcom is and had surmised what you detailed about the management of and the subjugated role of their national economy.

This seems to add proof of my point that it is the oligarchy (and their multi-national corporations) who are in control of (driving the economic incentives in, i.e. "bribes" in) the global economy, not the nation-state bureaucrats.
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Singapore and Ethiopia (for example, and there are many others on the list) don't need to hunt down the wealth of their own citizens, as their economies are not suffering from the bloated socialism and sovereign debt crisis.

There is this level of global coordination, because there is a very powerful oligarchy of globalists who control these nation-states and coordinate their plans.

I'd say that any state exists mostly to extort surplus value from the peasants for the insiders who control it, and taxation is the #1 mean.

On Ethiopia specifically I may say that they nationalized their central bank some years ago and they do most of their business with China trying to imitate it with a state-led 'developmentalist' ('develop-mentalist'?) policy with the result of being a noticeable economic success story in the last 10 years. Even politically I see them much more close to China than anything and available to play ball with the west mostly on their terms.

The factors of their success are probably going to end in the usual way at some point: The heavy state involvement in the economy produces remarkable results until it doesn't anymore, when bureaucracy, waste, theft and taxes, debt and inflation surpass some critical threshold.

And since ppl there is used from thousands of years to a centralized power not admitting any dissent even after the transition to formal democracy much ppl still confound a perceived mandatory sense of national pride/nationalism with an obligation to approve their gov, so they don't really have any checks and balances.

Their gov monopolizes telecom and do heavy internet surveillance/eavesdropping mostly against any opposition (which is mostly ethnically based, like the gov. party itself). Still, I see their chances way better than most of places in the west.

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June 24, 2014, 04:27:13 AM
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Subject: Society never wakes up;  stupid question exhibits an ignorant understanding of history
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 24, 2014 5:18 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/23/civil-unrest-rising-everywhere-including-the-uk/

Quote from: Armstrong
The solutions from politics will always be the same – grab more power. We are in a downward spiral of liberty and how far we go down this path to the future will be determined by the people and if they at least wise up and see this is not class warfare, it is the people against government. This is why I say career politicians are dangerous for they can be bought way too easily as Clinton was to open the flood gates for the bankers.

This is not going to end pretty. The question is when does society wake up? Just how high will this price be that we have to pay? They will blame the rich and the idiots will cheer – get them. What will happen when there is no more wealth to hunt? We end up with a communist state by default – no wealth, just career politicians who blame everyone but themselves.

Let's take for example the French Revolution as an example. The masses rebelled due to the discontent over the mismanagement of the economy by the monarchy and nobility. However the power vacuum of democracy was filled by political corruption which had to be snuffed by a totalitarian dictator Napoleon.

The masses are sheep because planning by consensus is always a chaotic power vacuum. There is no solution to this, except to use technology to empower the individual to escape the failure of the collective. In the past the technology innovation was in the ability to populate new geographical frontiers. Now the technological innovation will be the anonymous and decentralized Knowledge Economy on the (new redesigned anonymous and decentralize) internet.

The key to understanding the outcome of this global sovereign debt crisis, is first to recognize that is not a nation-state phenomenon, rather it is global. The controllers this time are not the pawns (bureaucrats) figure heads in the nation-states, but rather the multi-national corporations and more specifically the global elite who own these.

Surely the global elite must understand that there is a huge level of overcapacity in the industrial (age) sectors. Whereas there is undercapacity in the Knowledge Age sectors, e.g. dearth of top computer programmers, etc.. Their goal is to maintain control while the industrial age declines and the knowledge age rises. They've placed their bets on Facebook, Google, etc.. They want to a centrally controlled internet and socialism. This is the only way they can maintain their overlordship status. They currently control all mass media too.

So they will maximize the debt levels and destruction of the global economy in order to plummet the sheep into an escapable socialism, wherein the entrepreneurs will always be targetted and destroyed if they don't sell out to the multi-nationals.

Of course we hackers are not going to allow them to do this. They will lose.

So it won't be society that wakes up. The hackers are already awake.

The global elite know this. Which is why they have a $3 trillion black budget for the NSA et al, so they are prepared for cyberwar.

Now prepare for battle and chaos. The sheep will be manipulated by the global elite throughout this.

And Martin Armstrong is one of the sheep who is manipulated, e.g. his myopic interpretation of for example the Ukraine conflict.

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June 23, 2014, 01:17:02 AM
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Subject: Why do Singapore and Ethiopia cooperate?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 23, 2014 1:08 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/22/nsa-gathers-all-communications-everywhere/

At the link above, Armstrong documents the global cooperation on intercepting all communications.

We look on the list of 3rd parties cooperating countries, as we see the likes of Singapore and Ethiopia.

So pray tell me why in the hell would these countries cooperate if this was just self-interested, clueless bureaucrats protecting their own political power and vested interest?


Singapore and Ethiopia (for example, and there are many others on the list) don't need to hunt down the wealth of their own citizens, as their economies are not suffering from the bloated socialism and sovereign debt crisis.

There is this level of global coordination, because there is a very powerful oligarchy of globalists who control these nation-states and coordinate their plans.


Armstrong thinks they are doing this completely ignorant of the implications of how it will crash the global economy. Rather these globalists know damn well that they will crash the global economy and since they will be in control, their multi-national corporations will have special access to credit and to buy up everything cheaply at fire-sale prices.

This all about a global hegemony for this oligarchy that runs the world. The bureaucrats are just the pawns on the chessboard playing their respective bought off (vested) roles.

The real winners are always the international oligarchy, a.k.a. "banksters". These are not the banks with names such as JP Morgan and Goldman. Rather these banks are just tools of the oligarchy and any tool can be sacrificed at any time if it maximized the overall objective of global hegemony for this oligarchy.

Until Armstrong learns this fact, he will remain a naive nincompoop.
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June 22, 2014, 11:54:22 AM
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Subject: James Turk echos my point about gold & crypto-currency;  Armstrong continues his hysterical nonsense
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, June 22, 2014 12:50 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Quote from: AnonyMint
Gold can be an underground store-of-value, but as I alluded to Martin in my prior communication, and even Martin has written that gold can't transport across check points and borders any more without being registered with the authorities. Thus gold can not by itself function as a medium-of-exchange for the underground economy, because then exchange could only occur on a local scope. And Bitcoin has no anonymity features built in, and Tor is likely a honeypot as well most users don't employ it with Bitcoin. Thus alternative crypto-currency(ies) with anonymity features will rise up to serve the underground economy, and as a means to sell and re-purchase gold across distance as I explained in my prior communication.

James Turk echos what I wrote recently as quoted above. Here is the link to James Turk interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbtmM9ELWdQ#t=1122


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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/22/welcome-the-federalization-of-one-europe-to-save-the-euro/

Quote from: Armstrong
The new push in Europe is to rush Federalization to “save” the euro, which is doomed anyway because of its fractured design. The real self-interest here is to save the jobs in Brussels. The birth of the Euro was accompanied with an oath that this would never be the federalization of Europe. Politicians simply see only their own power and we are rapidly going down the drain on the entire global economy that these people are destroying to retain their own personal power. There is no one-world government agenda here for that would require surrendering Brussels to some other entity. That is the way conspiracies really function by having people exaggerate a trend to something absurd and then just the federalization of Europe seems better that the world. They are all pursuing just their own self-interest and this is the global agenda of sharing info to hunt down loose change everywhere and the elimination of all cash to then force capital into banks that they can grab when they desire. Fortunately for them, 90% of the people are blind, and 3% are the real conspiracy crowd so that leave only about 7% that see the train coming down the track for what it is – a train.

Welcome the Federalization of Europe – one state – one union. Brussels can only see their failure is the lack of power, not because they do not know how to manage anything.


Amazing isn't how all these self interested politicians and bureaucrats can't seem to plan anything correctly nor accomplish anything correctly, yet somehow we have this global coordination to track down wealth and open the exclusive doors for the multinational corporations which are owned by an oligarchy as proven by New Scientist magazine:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

Amazing how we have all the global coordination on global warming carbon credits taxation and even corporations in the Philippines (such as Henry Sy's SM malls chain) force us to use brown bags on Wednesdays because of the global warming hoax, and this seed was planted at the 1978 U.N. Convention on Human Environment and the U.N. was funded by Rockefeller after his League of Nations floundered.

So all this multiple decades of coordinated planning was just random self-interest according to Armstrong.

My Lord, you can lead a donkey to water in the desert, but you can make the damn thing drink before it collapses into the dust.

Sheesh.

At least we 3% understand where the global hegemony derives and what is necessary to create a frontier to escape from. Donkeys will lead their brethen into skeletons in the desert of no frontiers bitching the entire time about corrupt peon bureacrats and never gaining an ounce of insight into the real power structure and what technology is required to disrupt it.
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June 22, 2014, 06:39:55 AM
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Subject: there are no geographical frontiers,  because world is complicit with globalist plans
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, June 22, 2014 7:39 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/22/hunt-for-money-tisa-negotiations-leaked-by-wikileaks/

Quote from: Armstrong
Leaked WikiLeaks documents reveal the Abbott government in Australia is moving with the EU and the USA in a secret trade negotiation that is aimed at bringing about radical deregulation of international banking and finance sector. While this Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA) negotiations, reported by The Age, show Australian trade negotiators are working on a financial services agenda that could end the Australian government’s ”four pillars” banking policy and allow foreign banks much greater freedom to operate in Australia, there is also a secret agenda according to our sources that go hand in hand with global reporting of anyone who has accounts outside their home country. This is under the cloud of deregulating financial institutions when in fact it is also ensuring transparency for government tax authorities to hunt money internationally.

All financial data will be freely transferred overseas. This is the main objective. I was in Brussels for meetings. The most interesting aspect of this trip was they stopped me at customs because I was dressed in a suit and tie. It was clearly a money hunt inspection. I produced my passport and they wanted to see where I bought the ticket. I clearly would not have owed taxes on some imported trinkets and there were no questions regarding that. It was simply a stop and check to see if I was moving money between countries and where was I domiciled. This is the FIRST time I have ever been stopped ever. Let’s see what happens when I return to the States.


I want to refer readers and Martin Armstrong to what I communicated to him previously as quoted below...


Quote from: AnonyMint
Again the only hope has always been frontiers that compete against the dying Orwellian socialism. This time the frontiers are technological, not geographical.

The geographical frontiers this time are the developing world, especially Asia, but realize the Asians (and even the Latin Americans) are fully on board with the Orwellian socialism, e.g. China has a CTV camera on every lamppost. The developing world will rise after 2020 because they aren't saddled with aging boomers and constituent government liabilities, but developing world will rise within the official system controlled by the globalists, thus it won't be a complete frontier. We would need to look towards high tech solutions for that this time.

Emphasize my statement, "realize the Asians (and even the Latin Americans) are fully on board with the Orwellian socialism".

The globalists have been pulling the strings even in the Philippines where they recently were able to get similar liberalization of foreign ownership of banking passed through the Senate.

http://www.rappler.com/business/industries/209-banking-and-financial-services/60160-senate-approves-bill-full-foreign-ownership-philippine-banks

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2014/05/16/house-passes-bill-allow-foreign-ownership-banks-343179

See how the globalists push this through with their funding and capture of influence think tanks and organizations (operating at many diverse levels which can only be detailed fully with forensic research):

http://business.inquirer.net/166364/business-group-seeks-more-leeway-for-foreign-banks-in-ph


Even this media circus in the Philippines now about abuse of the pork barrel funds, is all about getting the Philippine public to agree to end the bank secrecy law and also so the public will support the usurpation of the Constitution to change to a Parlimentary system so the control is further shifted away from local government to globalists.

The plan of course is to track down all money and also to enable foreign ownership of land so when the SOBs crash the global economy, the multi-nationals can come in and buy up the prime land cheap.
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June 21, 2014, 08:17:29 PM
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Subject: official digital currencies vs. gold and crypto-currencies
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, June 21, 2014 9:13 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/21/electronic-money-starting-in-london/

Quote from: Armstrong
In London, buses will start in July accepting cards only – no more cash. Currency Exchanges are now offering cards instead of cash that they market as being safer in travel.  In Manchester, all the shops on Chorlton Street will no longer accept cash – only cards. This is a test to see if society is ready for the change. This is a major effort to move in preparation for the cashless society. While the goldbugs have been touting that gold will rise and the dollar will collapse because of fiat money, technology has passed them by making their arguements barbaric relics of the past. The future role of gold may be as a medium of exchange not as an alternative to paper money, but in the elimination of paper money gold may become the currency of the underground economy – not Bitcoin.


Gold can be an underground store-of-value, but as I alluded to Martin in my prior communication, and even Martin has written that gold can't transport across check points and borders any more without being registered with the authorities. Thus gold can not by itself function as a medium-of-exchange for the underground economy, because then exchange could only occur on a local scope. And Bitcoin has no anonymity features built in, and Tor is likely a honeypot as well most users don't employ it with Bitcoin. Thus alternative crypto-currency(ies) with anonymity features will rise up to serve the underground economy, and as a means to sell and re-purchase gold across distance as I explained in my prior communication.

And the other point I made in my prior communication is that the official system being offered by the globalists via their capture of the multi-national corporations and government, is an imploding economy post-2016. Thus those sheep who stay with the official digital instruments are going to be declining with the Titanic. This is what will provide the demand for the underground crypto-currencies and will be rapidly growing market. Of course the underground crypto-currency will not rise enough or fast enough to offset all the official digital money usage. The majority will rather choose to die on the Titanic and the official system will collapse into a big mess.

Massive chaos ahead and the majority will ride the official system down into the abyss of rising taxes and Orwellian socialism.

I see the possibility of a ray of hope in the tunnel coming from alternative crypto-currency and their adoption by the technologically astute thus providing a frontier to escape the Orwellian socialism. And this could spin off into an entirely new internet and global KNOWLEDGE AGE economy that is untouchable by the corruption. If successful, then those who don't adopt it will fall into their own Dark Age, akin to how Eastern Rome broke away from Western as the Western Rome fell into a 600 year Dark Age.

Again the only hope has always been frontiers that compete against the dying Orwellian socialism. This time the frontiers are technological, not geographical.

The geographical frontiers this time are the developing world, especially Asia, but realize the Asians (and even the Latin Americans) are fully on board with the Orwellian socialism, e.g. China has a CTV camera on every lamppost. The developing world will rise after 2020 because they aren't saddled with aging boomers and constituent government liabilities, but developing world will rise within the official system controlled by the globalists, thus it won't be a complete frontier. We would need to look towards high tech solutions for that this time.
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June 19, 2014, 12:52:15 PM
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Subject: Google wallet vs. crypto-currencies
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, June 19, 2014 1:41 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/19/google-the-new-bank-rollover-bitcoin-banks-its-the-internet-revolution/

Armstrong is entirely correct that banking, checking accounts, and payments will move nearly entirely digital within the next decade.

He is also correct that the masses will choose to stay with big government and their home fiat, thus Google wallet.

He fails to note that Bitcoin is also being taken over by Bitpay and Coinbase, the former of which is controlled by Peter Thiel the founder of Paypal. So Bitcoin will be brought into the fold of the government controlled and sanctioned digital currency system. I had been one of the first to write about this at the following linked post.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6076321

What Armstrong fails to consider is the uses of alternative crypto-currencies for which Google Wallet and Peter Thiel controlled Bitcoin will not be competitive with.

1. Anonymous store-of-wealth. The anonymous altcoins will be able to hide wealth from the coming confiscation.

2. Anonymous transfer of wealth across borders. So you want to move some gold. First you sell it for some anonymous crypto-currency, then you sell that altcoin for gold in the new location.

3. Sell download software and online services anonymously such that your income can not be tracked nor taxed. This will also require anonymous internet sites such a Tor services, and we really need an improved anonymity model for the internet that is better than Tor. While the youth are unemployed, you think they won't like to sell their services and apps without being tracked for taxes? The youth are going to see how corrupt government is and not want to fund it.

4. Earn some crypto-currency for free just by turning on your computer. This creates a demand for merchants. Don't tell me the youth in the coming global crisis won't like to get some free money while they sit at home bored and unemployed.

5. Due to the $227 trillion global debt bubble with $1000+ trillion of unfunded government liabilities with another $1000+ trillion of credit swap derivatives to keep the bond bubble propped up, this has provided a massive level of funding for an oversupply of everything in the global economy. Thus the global economy will shrink by at least 50%, perhaps as much as 80%. Whereas the knowledge age economy where individuals work out of their homes producing online services, software, 3D printer designs, etc and sell them online will grow very fast. If this grows to 10% of what the global economy is now, and the global economy shrinks by 80%, then the knowledge age economy will the majority of the global economy.

There is going to be a huge competition underway between Google and the altcoin developers to see who can provide the infrastructure and future of this knowledge age economy. Currently Google et al appear to have a massive lead. However, if certain highly capable developer(s) can get entirely healthy and focused, you could be very surprised what one person with a $billion premine to spend on open source bounties could do. Large companies move too slowly.

Let's watch this space closely to see if an credible alternative to Google wallet appears in the crypto-currency scene.
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