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June 16, 2014, 02:44:53 PM
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Subject: Re: most people are sheep
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 16, 2014 3:25 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Your opinion of sociology is irrelevant. Do some science first to test
your hypothesis.

You will find that power vacuum incentivizes a power structure to fill it,
just like any other opportunity incentivizes organisms to avail of it.
People are diverse and there is always some set of people to fill a
particular opportunity, i.e. the power vacuum of democracy is an
opportunity for a power structure thus one must exist.

The numerous facts make it implausible that we just have random events on
a global scale without any coordination by the super elite.

For example, did we end up with global warming tax on a global scale
because of Clinton, Bush, and Obama, and totally ignore that Rockefeller
funded the U.N., thus the 1978 U.N. Conference of Human Environment and
loads of other environmental NGOs, etc..

I am tired of making these points. I already made them in exhaustive
detail in the bitcointalk.org forum and in my emails to Armstrong which
were copied to the forum.


anonymous replied:
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Yes.  I understand the principle of Oligarchy.  I have long held the
belief that the American political system is one (I just didn't know the
word for it until a year ago).  It is neither a republic or a democracy.

The fact remains that every powerful man I've met can usually get along
with other powerful men in so far as they share a vision.  But  (business
owner, investor, etc) that is a position of power usually has a non
standard view of the world and too much ego and differing value systems to
get along with other strong personalities to unite on the level I believe
would be necissary to accomplish world population control.

I will look more into Anthony Sutton's stuff.


AnonyMint replied:
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Do you want to be objective or just be like Armstrong and hold a
subjective opinion?

The documentation of the elite manipulation is extensive such as Anthony
Sutton's detailed research. Ignoring facts is worse than subjectivity, it
is disingenuous.

I guess you've never heard of the word oligarchy. Cooperation at such
levels happens so much we even have that name for it in our vocabulary.



anonymous wrote:
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I want to make this strong clarification.  I share many of the concerns
about the debt load on the US, the "sheeple" concept of American
Consumerism, and disallusion with our banking system.

That said - I do not believe the super elite are trying to intentionally
reduce the worlds population to 500,000 or that there are Alex Jones style
global conspiracies.  Huge egos never get along long enough to create
conspiracies on the scale needed for that to be true.  (These are my
personal opinions).
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June 16, 2014, 06:31:43 AM
The Dark Enlightenment is not correctly summarized in the OP.

Go here for more information on the Dark Enlightenment:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dark-enlightenment-495527

In essence, it is the rise of anarchist cyberworld Knowledge Age, where government is irrelevant and impotent and the individual and his technological capabilities rein supreme. Most of the population will fall into a Dark Age, because they can't compete effectively against hackers and they are reliant on collectivism, debt, and the bankrupt industrial age.

Oh and I am more important than Moldberg in the Dark Enlightenment.
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June 15, 2014, 11:31:22 PM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: most people are sheep
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 16, 2014 12:28 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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I have come to the conclusion that we are not "saving the world". There is
no hope of saving most of the people from themselves. Most people are dumb
sheep and will gravitate to the failures of collectivism just as I wrote
in my seminal article as linked from the OP of the Economic Devastation
thread wherein I wrote in the linked article that organism in a petri dish
are unable to see their plight objectively and thus will continue until
they consume all their resources.

Even Armstrong has come to this conclusion as you read his latest blog
articles over the past week.

We are saving ourselves. Life is a competition. We have to get out there
and create the new frontier for those who are smart enough to avail of it.

Armstrong never did get the point that only frontiers provide an escape
valve from Dark Ages. He still thinks the only escape valve is reform. He
is egregiously mistaken.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/15/the-hunt-for-money/

Quote from: Armstrong
"I do this in hopes that if we can all spread the word,
when we do crash and burn, there will be a choice. We either go into the
darkness and end up total mindless drones and government becomes the
complete authoritarian state, or we move into the light of freedom as they
did in the 1700s. "


Never do we reform collectivism. We only compete with it by creating a new
frontier. Even Armstrong has admitted the OPPORTUNITIES are no longer
frontiers but rather increasing the collectivism:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/15/migration-discrimination-language/

Quote from: Armstrong
"There is a difference socially between those who came
BEFORE the New Deal and after. There were no grand government programs
previously. True, the welfare state today can provide the added incentive
to come, but this is still in the category of OPPORTUNITY.

...

I often point out that BEFORE the New Deal, what made America work was
DISCRIMINATION. Of course people immediately assume I am being racist. The
truth is quite different. Whoever was the LAST off the boat was ALWAYS
discriminated against. That was actually good, because ABSENT the social
programs, what took place was to find a decent paying job it forced
whatever group to speak English. "



Also Armstrong never did realize that the Jews are appointed by the Bible
to control the sheep (they can lend to gentiles). This power vacuum of
sheep has to be filled, it is a basic law of entropy and Thermodynamics.
As the Bible predicts, the wealth is being concentrated and this will
eventually all end up on the mountain in Israel.

You see the fiat masters and their sheep are dying. Only the frontier of
crypto-currencies and virtual high tech work will prosper.

So it is time to say goodbye to most of the world. Let them go into their
Mad Max. It can't be stopped.

Asia will rise after 2020, but as slaves to multi-nationals and
regional/world government control by the oligarchs. Welcome to 1984.
Remember (north east) Asian babies don't have the gag reflex, they are
obedient slaves.
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June 12, 2014, 05:10:20 AM
That's similar to one of the definitions of spirituality that I like.

Spirituality is everything that wouldn't exist in a world that consists solely of machines and robots of maximized "rationality" and efficiency.

They'd have no purpose for art, music, dance, everything that makes life "lively" and worthwhile for us humans (with a soul).

In fact the robots and machines should come to the seemingly only rational ultimate conclusion: To immediately suspend everything they're doing and just freeze in order to stop raising entropy and contributing to the heat death of the universe.

But somehow there seems to be more to life, to existence, which is hard to grab and hard to explain.
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June 11, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
When I contemplate the world view that AnonyMint is portraying, I get struck with a feeling of sadness - partly because I realize that it is true, but even more so because you seem to be overlooking the spiritual aspect of life. (From my interpretation of what you write)

One might argue that spirituality has no real supporting evidence, that we are merely a more sophisticated category of apes, and that getting into this stuff is more of a hang-up that ultimately is to be counted as a weakness in the course of nature.
As I see it, life then becomes a matter of carefully considered decisions, "according to that fact I should or should not do this". It also strengthens the scale of measurement and comparison, some people simply becomes waste of time, because of their inability to comprehend or interpret 'reality' correctly.

But if we take one step back. As we assume that there is no such thing as soul or spirituality, or that these things are to be viewed as an illusory matter - this does imply that life itself is meaningless, because that 'thing' which is directing our actions and decisions, really doesn't exist. Therefore no actions becomes false, and we could just as well kill ourselves or drink excessive amounts of beer, as to be struggling with the survival in a painful world?

When I look at the world today, when I look inwards and on the people around me, I see the 1000's of years of misery that we all carry. The hate, the envy, the doubt, the lack of care, and the judgements we pass on each other - it sure is hell for many of us.
But behind all that I also see the reasons - the frightened egos, the narrow-mindedness, the lack of understanding. If we could understand each other and go deep into our misery, pain and agony which has grown out of a million years of evolution - perhaps we would seek to heal, to feel and to help one another.

I think your deep insights into society actually is the reflection of insights that goes just as deep within our psyche. What we need to understand is not how to survive as a fragment in a collapsing world, but rather how we can change the whole by changing our own contribution.
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June 04, 2014, 03:04:20 AM
Adios forum. Thanks.
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June 03, 2014, 08:12:05 PM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Final message to Armstrong
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 9:08 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/03/the-destruction-of-the-world-economy/

Quote from: Armstrong
The Senate subcommittee has been examining tax avoidance by multinational companies. Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), Hewlett-Packard Co. and Apple Inc. have all been the subjects of previous hearings by the panel. The 2013 investigation into Apple uncovered a subsidiary that earned $30 billion over four years with no home for tax purposes.

The subcommittee also has investigated and targeted Swiss banks such as Credit Suisse Group AG for aiding tax evasion by wealthy Americans. The results have actually been quite devastating. Now the multinationals are being hunted by everyone else as well – especially France. What is good for the USA, is now open sport for everybody else.


Martin you observe going forward how the headlines are against the multi-nationals, but the end result of legislation will be slaps on the wrist for the multi-nationals who are in good favor with the global elite and dacronian against the out-of-favor multi-nationals, individuals and small businessmen. You are misdirected by the magician's slight of hand again as usual. You naive buffoon.



Quote from: Armstrong
The greed of governments all on its own is destroying the world economy without secret societies, clubs, or cabals. This hunt for taxes on a global scale is reversing everything we built coming out of World War II. Even the idea that a New World Order would bring peace and prevent a third world war has crumbled to dust and fallen to the ground. Not only experiments like the Euro have utterly failed

How much do you want to wager that the New World Order does not come about 2032ish as the resolution from the ashes of this globalist designed destruction of the nation-states by funding and promoting corruption, feminism, environmentalism, etc??

And you are aiding them by blaming this on the Bureaucrats instead of blaming it on the complicity between VOTING which is the power vacuum that creates the global elite. You are helping to confuse mankind so that mankind does not take the appropriate counter measures which is to seek out the next frontier in the Knowledge Age.

You even defraud your readers by telling them to avoid crypto-currencies.


Quote from: Armstrong
This is the demise of the West. We are now watching the very destruction of society and everything we thought life was about because these people need money to hold the reigns of power. No private group will survive right down to the bankers. This is checkmate as it has always been throughout history – them against us. Don’t worry – they always lose. However, sometimes they have taken us with them into the abyss we call a Dark Age – the ultimate Mad Max Event.


Wrong! We are complicit, if you are referring the masses and people like you who believe in VOTING and political reform.

The only few of us are actually opposed to the trend are those of us who are opting out of the entire system by becoming UNTRACEABLE and we refuse to VOTE nor be involved in any masturbation called reform.

Let the motherfucker burn to the ground. It is just time.

The people are all corrupted and selfish. They reaped what they sowed. The borrower is slave to the lender. Read your Proverbs.
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June 03, 2014, 01:39:41 AM
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Subject: Armstrong still can't see this was all designed by the globalists,  not by bureaucrats
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 2:37 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/facta-july-1st-77000-firms-worldwide-turning-over-info-on-americans/

Quote from: Armstrong
FACTA is coming July 1st. Already some 77,000 banks and foreign firms have signed up to rat-out Americans wherever they hide. While those who hate the “rich” cheer, what has been lost in this proverbial bureaucratic mindless rationalization of the real world is any understanding of how the world really functions.

Precisely like Obamacare that said everyone had to have maternity leave regardless of age, so even I lost my heathcare from Horizon Blue Cross, FACTA makes the same stupid conclusion. They assume ANYONE with a foreign account must be evading taxes. Hence, no American, including myself, can have an account overseas even when doing legitimate business. These brain-dead nasty bureaucrats know nothing of the real world and cannot even contemplate that now no foreign bank will accept an American because they must report to the USA or have their own assets confiscated in violation of international law.


Martin are you really that naive? You can't see how this all fits perfectly into the plan I have described to you in my prior communications?

How can you be so blind as to think the bureaucrats are running the circus?

FACTA was of course seeded by the global elite. The bureaucrats are either bought off in some cases or just caught up in the system in most cases, and thus do what they've been corralled to do. The global elite made this strategy and is working out very well for their goals.
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June 03, 2014, 01:28:55 AM
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Subject: Problem is there is no more "fair" compromise...until we hit rock  bottom
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 2:24 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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The key strategy of the globalists was to promote corruption, indebtedness, and complicity of all people to such a degree that no one has any wealth that was obtained fairly.

Obama articulated this when he said, "you didn't earn that without the government being there".

In other words, even if you had a legitimate business, fact is that none of you today would have the wealth you have had it not been for the debt bubble that was extracting resources from the third world impoverishing them and sustaining a debt bubble in the west.

Every customer you had in your business was funded indirectly by the socialism paradigm.

Thus as the boomers slide into poverty, they will say that everyone must share the blame equally. Their 1960s idealism and pothhead thinking hasn't faded. And they raised their youth (not the X gens like me who they abandoned) rather those born in 1990s who they spoiled with socialism, with this same idealistic mindset.

We will share all the assets of the world socialistically until we hit rock bottom, then we will reset with a new idealism how one world transparency over nations.

Welcome to 1984 in 2032. But first we have to burn all the bridges.
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June 03, 2014, 01:05:12 AM
There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.

Wow, you paint an awful picture.

Sorry and maybe I am overstating, but did you think this egregious socialism was free ride forever?

The majority are dependent on the government and debt. When those are defaulted, the majority are unfunded. For example in the USA (and apparently Europe is worse) the government has $200 trillion in actuarial (Net Present Value) constituent liabilities, yet even if we confiscated every asset in the USA, it wouldn't reach $200 trillion.

As far as I can calculate in my mind, mathematically there are only two possibilities.

1. We default on these obligations and debts, thus the majority will be impoverished. We could then rebuild faster as capital would be freed up to invest.

2. We avoid austerity and defaults by stealing all the capital to sustain the socialism, thus impoverishing everyone over time and sliding towards a Dark Age.

My assumption is the powers that be prefer #2, because it maximizes their gains in terms of political transfer to global institutions such as the IMF and it maximizes the relative stature of the multi-nationals versus the millionaires who can be fleeced with the socialism of "99% versus the 1%" (which actually means the 1% elite and poor against the upper middle class).

For example all the environmentalism (and feminism) crap was set into motion (by Rockefeller) a long ago as the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment, so now the elite will reap the rewards as they can set these carbon taxes against the millionaires and businesses, and these turtle habitats against ranchers, etc.. Watch Texas's sovereignty become shredded.

Remember this fact. The USA States can't run deficits, but the Feds can. This will force the States to give up their sovereignty to the Feds in order to receive bailouts. In effect, the same situation exists in Europe as the member nations' bonds (other than Germany and a few other northern European nations) will not receive a bid without the ECB backing. Is Texas economically strong enough and politically unified enough to stand on its own? Maybe. Texans are pretty hardy. Yet there are big cities in Texas with government dependents. Perhaps Texans could fracture. In any case, all this chaos is not good for real estate. Titles will become uncertain. My understanding is many titles are now encumbered with uncertainty due to the disputes about paper work from the 2007 subprime fiasco.

I don't see what can resist this outcome. This is perfectly set up by the global elite to slide into the abyss. The forces that would resist this are all gone, because the masses have been converted into socialists.

Sorry but I think Armstrong is entirely missing the point of how serious this is.
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June 02, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
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Subject: Please differentiate between assets of the upper middle class and  the masses
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 11:46 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid-2/

Quote from: Armstrong
A host of emails have come in on this subject from did non-Americans have assets seized by USA after 1934 to can real estate be used to the extreme won’t they just confiscate all traceable assets.

If you are going to look at real estate to shelter assets, you should look at Texas and Florida. Typically, assets are seized because a person has been sued, lost the case and a money judgment has been entered or the government has imposed some outrageous fine. This is why O.J. Simpson ran to buy a house in Florida when he was being sued by the Goldman family. Why? They cannot be seized by anything other than the failure to pay a mortgage. If things go real bad, we will see State Rights start to emerge.

Florida and Texas provide the widest coverage of asset protection. In Texas, for example, up to 200 acres of land can be claimed under the state homestead exemption, no matter what its value might be. Additionally, there are very few personal property assets that the typical person owns that can be seized to satisfy a judgment. The easiest way to protect the largest number of assets is to reside in a state where laws offer wide protection. You might want to consider buying in Texas or Florida BEFORE any such event because moving simply to avoid paying a judgment or creditors is usually considered a fraudulent transfer of assets. The court in the state where the judgment was entered will rule the assets still “reside” in the original state and order their seizure.

There was no confiscation of foreign assets in the USA and as for confiscating ALL traceable assets that is just absurd and paranoid. There would be massive civil unrest if the government ever tried to do such a thing. The entire global infrastructure would collapse. Nations have gone to war because a country defaulted on its debts. Therefore, such an extreme would be impossible absent a communist revolution.

As long as they can target the upper class for confiscation and default on unfunded pensions on the lower class, they will proceed until they hit the wall of resistance. The French Revolution was actually 72 years in the making. It began with the bailout in 1720 of the Mississippi Bubble. France assumed the debts to prevent war for many non-French were investors. The oppression of taxes to pay for the bailout from 1720 set in motion the French Revolution, which began on the 14th of July, 1789 when armed citizens stormed and captured the Bastille prison freeing the oppressed. The 72 year cycle ended with the December 11th, 1792 trial of the King Louis XVI  who was then executed on the 21st of January 1793.


Note the plan is to isolate the upper middle class for confiscation because the masses will be dependent of the State for their health care, food stamps, rent, unemployment insurance payments, etc..

Thus advising your wealthy readers to buy real estate to get off the grid is not going to work out. They will clawback all withdrawals from European banks as an intent to avoid the bailins, which were announced publicly long ago. This is a fraudulent transfer.

There won't be any resistance because the masses will be dependent on the State and supporting the "99% against the 1%".

The State rights won't help you when the federal government and G20 asserts that the individual moved funds fraudulently to avoid bailins and taxation.

The MF Global incident was the trial balloon for clawbacks.

At best, their real estate will become illiquid and locked up in ligitation, and probably also tainted as no one will want to buy an asset which has a disputed claim against it by the feds and the G20.

I told this is nothing like the French Revolution nor the Great Depression. This is more like the fall of Rome. This is the death of stored capital and the rise of the Knowledge Age (individual brain as capital) as the new frontier.

You would much better to advise clients to buy precious metals as these are untraceable. They can liquidate these by selling on a decentralized exchange coming for crypto-currencies, with personal meetups.

Only two asset classes will survive for the wealthy:

1. precious metals (and collectables)
2. crypto-currencies

The global elite and some multi-nationals will retain assets because they are protected by being complicit with the DEEPER STATE.

Indeed they are going to create the worst global crisis ever intentionally in order to bring about mass support for a new world order.


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: You recommend Bush's states?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 12:07 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Bush's state is Texas and his brother was (is?) governor of Florida.

It is clear that the masses will not agree to austerity, thus they are going to be very much in favor of stripping the rich of their assets. As this ratchets downward, the middle class segregate into those who have fallen dependent on the government and those who are now the "rich". For example in France the masses initially supported 75% tax against rich, until they realized this included themselves, next they will face economic implosion and then the mass support for "tax the rich" will rise again. This is the ratcheting process.

Who is going to resist? The boomers are too old and dependent on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.. Ditto Europe. The youth are unemployed and so the best way to employ them is to create wars which will come on schedule 2018 or so.

Also I didn't assert that JFK was killed only for his EO 1110 about silver certificates. The Vietnam war and Cuba stances could also have been reasons.
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June 02, 2014, 11:04:19 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: I expect all TRACEABLE assets will be effectively confiscated
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 12:02 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid/

Quote from: Armstrong
In this respect, real estate and stocks will be the vehicle to make the transition to the new currency that comes for the big money.

The USA has contingent liabilities of $200 trillion and even if every asset in the USA was confiscated it wouldn't amount to $200 trillion. This discrepancy will worsen as Obamacare, rising taxes kick in and other measures to nationalize the wealth.

They are tracking everything including real estate and stocks. Everything will be taken as the nations try to not default on their debts. It will be a downward spiral in the abyss, because the more assets taken to pay debts, the worse the economy and thus the lower the tax revenues so the more they will have to take.

There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.
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June 02, 2014, 01:06:34 AM
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Subject: Armstrong is so incredibly naive
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 2:04 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/thatcher-the-euro/

Quote from: Armstrong
Alan and Lady Thatcher were my friends as was Milton Friedman. However, I was unaware that Milton had told them about me.

That you don't even know how you were introduced to good friends in high places, should be instructive to you about how you don't know the
discussions amongst the highest echelons of the globalists such as Soros, Kissinger, Rockefeller, Brzezinski, etc..

You have overconfidence and a confirmation biases w.r.t. to your ability to see what is really behind the deepest curtain. If learned anything about the scientific method and statistical analysis, you know a
confirmation bias is a formidable weapon against truth.

Quote from: Armstrong
Unquestionably, the Euro experiment is a total disaster for Europe for it was deliberately designed for political-ends not based upon economic soundness. It will be the self-interest of government that destroys it. Just look at Brussels. The design of the Euro was faulty and they knew it from the start creating a monetary union preaching savings on foreign exchange while hiding the agenda to federalize Europe. The elite politicians just needed to sell the idea and swear it was not some federalist agenda. Margaret Thatcher tried to fight against that agenda within her own cabinet. I was there and had intimate conversations about this with her. It was after the 1987 election, when Thatcher became much more an isolated figure within government fighting with members in her own cabinet who wanted to join the Euro as a new Bretton Woods. There was some New World Order in the creation of the Euro that one government would eliminate war. However, I would say the majority in the UK who wanted to join the Euro were trying to recreate Bretton Woods’ fixed rate regime that began with the ERM that also collapsed.


So even you realize that the goal all along was to create a one-europe dictatorship, yet you still deny that there were higher echelons of globalists behind the scenes who were giving money here and there to influence key members of the cabinet. If you studied Anthony Sutton's detailed research into the money trail, you can see the modus operandi of the elite is they fund movements, such as the Bolsheviks, Prescott Bush funding Hitler, Rockefeller funding the U.N. and thus the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment and Rockefeller funded the feminism and environmental movements through various NGOs and foundations.

The globalists are moving us towards a one world international reserve currency, because they know it is the natural order of things because governance is always corrupt. Thus much better they will control the discipline of the international money supply and/or basket weightings. And with that control...

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/i-told-you-so/

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“We are on the verge of global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the new world order.”

- David Rockefeller

The truth is sad to say, but we are in the phase of Govern by Crisis. That is the only time something will happen. In that respect, David Rockefeller was correct. The majority of people in power are not willing to risk the status quo until they see they have no other choice. I have been working on a small conference in Washington for those who are interested to lay out the problems and possible solutions. It will be a very small group.

I would like to think what you say is possible. But it just is not. Those who think there can even be a one-world government have never dealt with politics. It is a frustrating and monumental task to change direction.

Your huge myopia is that you don't understand that the discord between people is a power vacuum that gives rise to government (according to Max Weber's canonical definition of govt, "a monopoly on force" to restore order and solidarity) and also the discord between nations is a power vacuum that gives rise to a DEEPER STATE known as the global elite who effectively use their power to restore order.

This international reserve currency is a natural outcome.

But as I explained to you, the thermodynamics and trend of entropy is such that the centralized order is a stagnant and dying paradigm, and the entropy blows out to new frontiers routing around the Coasian barrier of the power vacuums.

ONLY FRONTIERS HAVE EVER BEEN THE SOLUTION AND NEXT STEP.

Your participation in a top-down Bretton Woods #2 will be participating in what is dying and enslaving the world.

VOTING IS THE PROBLEM.

Only technology and frontiers that result from it (e.g. better ocean navigation when geography of earth was still a frontier) are worth discussing and working on.

Quote from: Armstrong
The point is to stay in their face. You have to be known BEFORE the event. There is ZERO chance of getting your foot in the door after the fact claiming I told you so. They will never believe you. Me, they all know. I was even introduced on Capitol Hill as the guy with the model the Executive has been trying to suppress. They know what I created and they know what I forecast. I will not have to prove anything when the system crumbles.

You go ahead masturbating with political power vacuums. You can just join up with Rockefeller et al and pretend that better 10 year plans will make a better world. Then you will be like Woodrow Wilson and write on your death bed how you have inadvertently handled the power to the a den of thieves.

I guess you are incapable of working this out in your mind beforehand.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/nsa-the-next-shoe/

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I have been concerned about the NSA because this is getting very Orwellian. This is not about terrorism, it is about identifying anyone who would rise up against the government in the coming Civil Unrest storm. It has been reported that the biggest revelation about the NSA is yet to come. Here is the next shoe. The NSA is gathering images of everyone including emails, Facebook, and photo ids, This is all going into a database so they can scan a crowd and know who you are.

I am against conspiracy theories BECAUSE they too often go to extremes and that provides perfect cover for the truth to hide in plain view. I know what is capable with technology for I use it to predict the next step in the economy. These people seem to be obsessed with protecting government from the people and that is what is scary. That eliminates democracy and strips us of all liberties. This is not a stark world in which I wish to live under a microscope. This to me is one-step shy of creating some master race of obedient servants – the same thinking that went on behind the Iron Curtain. See something – say something..


This is natural outcome as technology will always be used by the power vacuum to restore order and control over the discordant sheep.

Only those intellectuals and hackers who are astute enough to find the new frontiers will escape the cancer, e.g. Eastern Rome Byzantine then Genoa and Venice.

The rest will fall into this cancerous abyss of a new international reserve currency enslavement model, e.g. the Dark Age of Western Rome.



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/jfk-conspiracy-silver-or-vietnam/

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Silver rose in price and it was simply no longer feasible to use it as coinage. Most government followed suit but some were 2 years behind. It was not a coordination of governments, but a free market rising in price.

Coinage rising in price is not feasible to use as money when governments don't want deflation and are dependent on debasing the money supply to fund their expanding socialism. In other words, governments all over the world didn't want free market money supply. Gresham's Law was in force as the legal tender face value was less than the melt value (or headed that trajectory).

I am not arguing that money should be some fixed physical thing. Rather I am arguing that governments don't want to give up their power over the money supply to the free markets.


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This reasoning is just so bizarre it approaches  lunacy. Whoever makes up this stuff obviously cannot read and comprehend at the same time. Executive Order 11110 dealt with the problem that silver was rising in price and therefore it could no longer be used for a monetary instrument given the Bretton Woods fixed rate ideas. This is why there can be no standard because everything with time fluctuates. The Treasury was under order to maintain the fixed rate of silver and there was a tax placed on trading in silver back in the Great Depression in 1937. Kennedy was authorizing the Treasury to issue notes ONLY if needed for the transition in the elimination of silver from the monetary system. It has nothing to do with stripping the authority of the Federal Reserve to issue notes.

That order freed the Treasury to allow some free market back into the money supply. And that had to be stopped because it directly threatened the globalists' control over the money supply via their capture of the governments and central banks.

And once again you have slandered us, but we are much more intelligent than you.

Your drivel is approaching the point of "ignore".
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June 02, 2014, 01:05:57 AM
I don't understand, free time for what?

To teach how to use Armstrong's ECM. I have work to do.
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June 01, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
I don't understand, free time for what?
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June 01, 2014, 02:00:35 AM
Please help me understand how to use Armstrong's ECM model to make money so I can apply that wealth toward helping the resistance!

http://unheresy.com has no blog.  Do you have one elsewhere to which I could subscribe?

P.S.:  As a kid in Louisiana in the 1970's I also remember black kids continuously wanting to touch my hair at the grocery store.  My Mom said let them.  Some of those kids had never seen a white person before.  They were fascinated by my hair.

Ah you've read my old posts wherein I mentioned my experiences in inner city schools in Baton Rouge. I had stated about that to diffuse accusations that I am a racist.

So sorry I don't have any more free time for that.
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May 31, 2014, 10:50:24 PM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Significant quibbles in the midst of overall agreement
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 31, 2014 11:49 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/31/constitution-is-just-a-scrap-of-paper/

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Every drug dealer I ever met who was arrested with a bunch of cash goes to court and finds that the reported cash he had is on average 50%. He then realized they are pocketing the money and gets mad. His court appointed lawyer tells him to shut-up for if there is more money there is more drugs and more time. The drug laws make those in enforcement very rich.

Collectivism (in every flavor of government that has ever existed) always collapses due to the citizens partaking in the corruption, e.g. Medicare is a corruption where the citizens get to gang up and steal from the collective or your recent blog about teachers demanding to tax wall street to pay their salaries. Proof is as Glenn Downs told you in recent audio interview on your site, that the U.S. actuarial obligations ("constituent liabilities") are $200 trillion, but even if every asset and all wealth of the U.S.A. was confiscated, it wouldn't amount to $200 trillion.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/31/you-are-not-alone/

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Therefore, the very idea of hyperinflation will result is civil unrest and revolution before you ever got there in a highly social state as we have today.

Correct and astute. Hyperinflation would cause the established government to give up its power, thus they will never do this. Instead they will appease the desire of the citizens to steal from the collective as I explained above. Isn't democracy wonderful. Yet Armstrong thinks he can create a collective nirvana that has never existed. Yet he claims he bases himself in historical fact. He has a logical contradiction.



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/31/various-flavors-of-government/

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I assume you are suggesting the NSA has gone so far they have lost the cooperation they once had as CISCO sent a letter to Obama and
Microsoft is losing ground outside the USA because of the NSA

Zuckerberg sent a letter too, yet Facebook and Google continue to increase their technologies for tracking everything. Facebook even monitors your pattern of typing so they can identify you even when you are not login. Google works on driveless cars and tracking you on every site via cookies and their ads on nearly every blog and website.

The fascism is not decreasing. There are only some nice letters sent to appease the public post-Snowden, whilest the reality is the fascism is increasing and will more so with FATCA and Obamacare so that only those multi-nationals can do business internationally and domestically.
Checkmate on the economy and the slide into the abyss of a Dark Age.

The people will protest and demand reform. And the globalists will give them an IMF controlled international reserve currency reset and global oversight for transparency of the nation-state corruption, to further enslave the people in Rothschild's control over the money supply (then the globalists will have their fingers on a global central banking lever).

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Fascists have typically aligned themselves with industry who see protectionism to be to their advantage and support an
interventionist economic policy.

You've just described FATCA and Obamacare.

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The difference between a simple fascist state and the next in line would be a totalitarian state is primarily the lack of cooperation of the private sector.

Incorrect. Fascism is a flavor of Totalitarianism, wherein the power is shared with the globalist owned corporations. For example, Prescott Bush (grandpa of POTUS Bush) was director of Union Bank which financed the work camps under Hitler. Communism is another flavor of Totalitarianism.

In all cases, the globalists are funding and involved in these. Andy Sutton documented the money trail of their involvement with the Bolsheviks, etc.. The power vacuum of voting (collectivism) always creates
Totalitarianism. There are 0 exceptions in history, if you distill it down to the generative essence and thus fundamental truth. For example, see my point about Athen's democracy in the prior email yesterday. Therein the globalists were the slave owner "citizens" (who were a fraction of the global population that was enslaved).

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If a private person sued the banks in NYC, they lost and many class actions suits were dismissed, which is the classic fascist state model. However, when the government goes after a bank, the bank cannot win and that is more in the category of a totalitarian state where our conviction rate is 98%+ in federal courts.

Nonsense distinction. The larger fish are eating the smaller fish in the case of disposable banking institutions. The deepest power structure behind the scenes is growing richer, and is never targeted.

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The only Republic that did not transform into an oligarchy was that of Genoa. There the richest families ruled, but each rotated as the Doge for one year. Thus, they never became Draconian for they feared retaliation the next year and they would be subject to their own laws. Career politicians are always exempt under our current system. Genoa did not fall into a rich v poor, it was business always that benefited the entire city for it perpetually competed against Florence and Venice. You simply cannot have career politicians – NO EXCEPTIONS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Genoa#13th_and_14th_century

You again identify the symptom and not the cause! The symptom was competitive chaos that disallowed a dominant power structure to take over (thus preventing entrenched vested interests, i.e. your buzzword "career politicians"). But what caused that and thus enabled it? Come on man, think.

DECENTRALIZATION was how society rose out of the Dark Age of Western Rome.  And it will be exactly the same this time. The decentralization won't be driven by the top-down due to some reform of collectivism, rather from individuals and groups breaking free to new frontiers and competing from there, i.e. ANONYMOUS and UNTRACEABLE crypto-currency.

I hope you are learning from me. You will eventually realize I am correct. Will it require it all happens according to my statements before you will realize? Or can you work it out in your mind now?

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This is why as say it is NOT Capitalism that is in its death-throes, it is Socialism.

To be more precise, it is passive capital that is dying also, as we are moving into a decentralized Knowledge Age wherein the individual can create and distribute from his own knowledge capital (due to computers, internet, 3D printing, robotics, etc) and thus stored capital is dying.

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Eventually, they will create a new currency, default on the obligations, and we get a reset. This is where tangible assets come in. ALL ASSETS survive such a rest PROVIDED there is no war that results in the destruction of the infrastructure as we saw after World War II.

All tangible assets will be confiscated or end up illiquid. No exceptions. Stored capital is dying. We are leaving the Industrial Age wherein fixed capital was necessary. You are missing the entire trend. You are only looking at the highly VISIBLE symptoms and Bureaucrats and not looking deeper.

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That pushes it into the final confrontation against the people and hence we move to the third stage of totalitarianism where corporations and banks lose their influence under a republic and a fascist state. Corporations and bankers suddenly find themselves the targets indistinguishable from the people. Hence, we are seeing huge fines now against the banks.

Banks are sacrificed by the globalists as they gain the huge power of the IMF (bank!) control over the new international reserve currency. You need to study the globalist business model:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.10/thinklikeabanker.html

The power structure behind the scenes is not being targeted and is not losing. However in our advantage is that power structure will decline along with the Dark Age it creates. And then the decentralized intellectuals will march to the new frontier in high tech UNTRACEABLE by government.

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To put this simply, only a fool thinks there are just plain types of government that can easily be defined such as democracy, republic, fascist state, and Communism. There are a lot more flavors to the complex political experiment of humankind.

A fool like you sees only symptoms in 1000 flavors and can't distill to the deeper generative essence.
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May 31, 2014, 10:30:10 AM
> For 5,000 years a war has raged between people who attempt to predate others, and people who resist predation.

It is a mistake to think of the universe as a one-way progression except in terms of expanding entropy.

I did not say the Universe is a one-way progression.  My point in saying "5,000 years" was that predation by Elites has essentially always existed.  It's a fact of life, and always will be.

In that war, I wish to ally with the forces of good, ...those who resist predation.

Please help me understand how to use Armstrong's ECM model to make money so I can apply that wealth toward helping the resistance!

http://unheresy.com has no blog.  Do you have one elsewhere to which I could subscribe?

P.S.:  As a kid in Louisiana in the 1970's I also remember black kids continuously wanting to touch my hair at the grocery store.  My Mom said let them.  Some of those kids had never seen a white person before.  They were fascinated by my hair.

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May 31, 2014, 01:55:41 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Fairwell thank you
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 31, 2014 2:54 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Martin,

Thank you for sharing your model free-of-charge. Information such as the following is very helpful:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/29/gold-for-the-close-of-may/

I wish you would stick to what you've been successful at, and stop banging your head against the concrete of (insoluble) politics.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and refusing to admit it always fails.

I will return to real computer programming work now, which my arena of expertise and prior success.
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