Topic: Dark Enlightenment - page 19. (Read 69319 times)

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Subject: Armstrong is psychology shaken (can't even define fascism  correctly)
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, May 30, 2014 10:23 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/30/21542/

In the 2nd audio recording, you can hear that he can't fully focus on the topic Glen Downs is raising and he keeps coming back in his to the debate with me about the globalists. He is trying to justify his denial, but the reason this is dominating his mind is because I have raised some points that he can't reconcile and his subconscious mind knows it. Thus he is in a state of pyschological upheaval (insecurity) and he trying to form denials to affirm his conscious state-of-mind.

He made two assertions in that recording relative to the globalists:

1. The system is going after the Bilderbergs. Yet he provides no evidence of this whatsoever. Sure Rockefeller et all will allow some token appearances that they are being targeted in order to satiate the myopia of dimwits, but for ever penny taken from one of his hidden web of corporations, this plan of global taxation and control will return many multiples more back to them.


2. Everyone is selfish and trying to game the system and thus he asserts there doesn't need to be any cabal to give us the outcome we have now. Excuse me Mr. Dimwit! If everyone was selfish, there wouldn't be any cooperation and the entire thing would collapse in chaos without any Bretton Woods #2. There wouldn't be coordination on global taxation, global environmentalism as a facade for global taxation, etc.. These are highly organized plans, as Martin himself has admitted for example about Piketty. It is instructive to note that Martin routinely contradicts himself when ever I corner him in superior logic. For example, he wrote yesterday this is not fascism, but he had a recent blog post all about how this is fascism. And he writes ad nauseum about how the people in government can't tie their shoes, yet he then admits a sophiscated level of planning in for example 9/11, negative interest rates, and Piketty:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/27/fascism-emerging-in-europe-in-the-aftermath-of-the-elections/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/01/are-we-headed-into-global-fascism/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/30/piketty-the-greatest-justification-to-just-rob-anyone-who-has-more-than-you/

Armstrong's definition of fascism below is incorrect:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/05/ukraine-facts-really-do-not-matter/

The key distinction of fascism from other forms of totalitarianism is the marriage of the corporate cartels with the government:

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

"Under fascism, the state, through official cartels, controlled all aspects of manufacturing, commerce, finance, and agriculture. Planning boards set product lines, production levels, prices, wages, working conditions, and the size of firms. Licensing was ubiquitous; no economic activity could be undertaken without government permission."


How can anyone take this guy seriously when his rationality is so sporadic?

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Subject: Re: How Do I Tell My Daughter That People Across Europe Fear  Minorities Like Us?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, May 30, 2014 9:25 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7046852

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Subject: Armstrong wants a democracy of slave owners
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, May 30, 2014 2:41 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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So Armstrong is proposing Athen's "direct democracy" as a model. But Athens' governance was by an elite group of slave owners according to their share of the wealth, i.e. Fascism (from the perspective of the enslaved subjects).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy#Criticism_of_the_democracy

"For much of the 5th century at least democracy fed off an empire of subject states. Thucydides the son of Milesias (not the historian), an aristocrat, stood in opposition to these policies, for which he was ostracised in 443 BC.

At times the imperialist democracy acted with extreme brutality, as in the decision to execute the entire male population of Melos and sell off its women and children simply for refusing to became subjects of Athens. The common people were numerically dominant in the navy, which they used to pursue their own interests in the form of work as rowers and in the hundreds of overseas administrative positions. Further they used the income from empire to fund payment for officeholding."

And note that after that arrangement ended in the 4th, Athenian democracy ended by 322 B.C..

Martin will not be able to find any example in the entire history of mankind where the power vacuum of democracy was not filled by an elite.

NONE. STOP SPREADING DELUSIONAL NONSENSE.



Armstrong will never find an example in history where the power vacuum of democracy wasn't filled by an elite Fascism.

I have provided the evidence, yet he prefers his delusion.

So he will get his international reserve currency governed by slave owners- the IMF (which is entirely controlled by the globalists).

Dementia has apparently set in. It is time to tune out this old man. Let him babble to himself and the stupid investors who will follow him into Ancient coins, real estate, stocks, and other assets that are all going to be confiscated. It will all go illiquid if not tax compliant. And tax compliant will mean 80% confiscated.



Just like in Athens:

"The ten treasurers of the Delian league (Hellenotamiai) had been accused of embezzlement. They were tried and executed one after the other until, when only one was still alive, the accounting error was discovered and that last surviving treasurer was acquitted. This was perfectly legal in this case, but an example of the extreme severity with which the people could punish those who served them. (Antiphon 5.69–70)

    In 406 BC, after years of defeats in the wake of the annihilation of their vast invasion force in Sicily, the Athenians at last won a naval victory at Arginusae over the Spartans. After the battle a storm arose and the generals in command failed to collect survivors: the Athenians tried and sentenced six of the eight generals to death. Technically, it was illegal, as the generals were tried and sentenced together, rather than one by one as Athenian law required. Socrates happened to be the citizen presiding over the assembly that day and refused to cooperate (though to little effect) and stood against the idea that it was outrageous for the people to be unable to do whatever they wanted. Later they repented the executions, but made up for it by executing those who had accused the generals before them. (A long account in Xenophon Hellenica 1.7.1–35)

    In 399 BC Socrates was put on trial and executed for 'corrupting the young and believing in strange gods'. His death gave Europe one of the first intellectual martyrs still recorded"


The thermodynamics of a power vacuum and the nature of man never changes.

Only technology and frontiers have EVER provided change.



Include Rockefeller's funding of environmentalism bullshit as early as the 1972 U.N. Convention of Human Environment.

No coordination over decades eh?

Fruit Loops must be your regular breakfast meal.


No exceptions. They are fully on board the global TECHNOCRACY plan. Take a walk around China or Hong Kong and seen a surveillance camera on every lamppost.


Hahaha. Rockefeller is quaking in his boots. Totally unfucking believably pathetic. This old man is off his rocker.


You will regret that sentence. Proof will come out on multi-nationals. We already have a boat load of it about Monsanto et al, and recently with the cooperation with the NSA. Much more to come...

That sentence will get rammed so far up your asshole, you will be puking it out. Guaranteed. You are going to end up one ashamed man by 2032 as you see how amazingly fucking wrong you were.

Your mea culpa will come... but much too late to help the world as you will mislead many in the interm....


There is nobody funding me! I am deliberating debating you because you are wrong. You can't win by going after the symptoms of the cancer (the Bureaucrats). You must go after the cancer itself. The cancer has always been and forever will be collectivism and the power vacuum of democracy.

I point to the only possible escape valve, and you tell all your readers to avoid it. You will lead them to their destruction.

BE PROUD OF IT. OWN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. I WILL NOT FORGET.

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Subject: 10 secs later, Armstrong realizes I was correct all along
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, May 30, 2014 9:30 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Armstrong said it was impossible for us to be anonymous and untraceable, and then 10 seconds later I see he posted a mea culpa:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/30/the-peons-strike-back/

That is why he should STFU and listen to scientists such as myself who have more experience and knowledge than him in this cryptographic arena. Stop his obnoxious boasting about how he has more (irrelevant) experience than me.

And now he gets the answer to the question I asked him-- the IMF will control the international reserve currency (and who the fuck does he think controls the IMF!):

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/30/paul-volcker-and-the-move-toward-a-new-bretton-woods/


Now I am confident he will continue his pathetic denial. At some point, I have to bow out of refuting him. Real work beckons. Unlike him and his hot air balloons, I am not retired yet and can make a real difference.

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Subject: What experience and knowledge is relevant here?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, May 30, 2014 9:16 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Armstrong apparently doesn't know who I am. He erroneously asserts I haven't been outside of my bedroom.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/30/gold-the-black-market-50000/


Negative nominal interest rates mean a slide into Totalitarianism (and Fascism as the globalists' multi-national corporations will be exempted as they are with FACTA). This is what I am warning about, that the majority will slide into a Dark Age. The only thing that can prevent a Dark Age are those intellectuals (e.g. hackers) who will opt-out of that dying system into their own ANONYMOUS crypto-currency wherein we will be UNTRACEABLE by the NSA. There is no way to reform collectivism from the inside. Martin knows this, as his study of history has told him this.

Four years ago (long before I heard of Armstrong), I publicly warned about gold investors being trapped by confiscation of taxes at the end game in an article that had 41,000+ readers:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20327.html
http://www.financialsensearchive.com/fsu/editorials/moore/2010/0615.html


You do naming calling by referring to us as those with no experience who haven't left our bedrooms. You've written that our explanations are nonsense. And you don't even know who you are talking to. You think I don't know something about what goes on in the inside. Perhaps you should do some research on my attorney father.

Besides your experience is irrelevant when you can't address logic, such as your inability to explain how an international reserve currency will be truly independent and uncontrolled by any vested interest? Who will set and MAINTAIN OVER TIME the money supply or the weightings of the basket? Of course the globalists will. And you have no possible refutation at your disposal, which is why you resort to name calling instead of answering the question.

I was a person who had great respect and admiration for your model and your blog posts explaining the model's predictions. I thought you were an open-minded, rational person who would weigh all the logic of something and come to conclusion based on answering every question. Instead I've learned you are closed-minded to retain your biases, and just ignore pertinent questions that poke gaping holes in your logic. I respect rational men, not irrational men.


And you are doing the same thing you criticize. You are married to the idea that a globalist power structure can't possibly exist. If you were truly interested in learning something new, you would for example read the following. How can you deny those insiders who have documented the globalists as follows (and don't forget you ignored Andy Sutton's research too documenting the money trail):

http://tabublog.com/2014/05/26/all-wars-are-well-planned-banker-wars-including-wwiii/

Here is an excerpt but you need to read the entire page linked above:

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You are late. I wrote about that in 2010 per the first two links I provided above.

But as you note, gold will never be a liquid asset which you can use as money over distance and in mainstream commerce. Only anonymous, untraceable crypto-currency will prevent the velocity-of-money from collapsing and the world falling into a Dark Age. That is our only hope.

You can go on with your delusional reform of collectivism and play right into the plans of the globalists for they will control the levers of that new digital international reserve currency. I will tell you, good luck.

Would you like to put a wager on which one of us is correct? What betting odds do you give? I am serious. I have a lot of people that will probably join me to bet against you. Don't get shy now.


Isn't that what they said to the Wright Brothers. And a zillion other crazy inventions that people doubted would ever occur.


Actually that's not what Henry Kissinger says as quoted from the above linked article:


Hey dimwit, what can a tank do when it has nothing to shoot at? How exactly are you going to shoot the user of ANONYMOUS crypto-currency where the user is UNTRACEABLE?


Bitcoin is not anonymous and it traceable. So you are correct for Bitcoin, but you are incorrect for anonymous, untraceable crypto-currencies, if and when they are used with great care. This is not something every person will learn to do overnight, but it can catch on over time.

Legal Disclaimer: Note I am not providing tax nor legal advice and I am not publicly advocating illegal activity. Each user must consult with his or her own adviser on such matters.

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Subject: Re: No controlled gatekeepers, just a natural myopia of sheeple
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, May 30, 2014 8:14 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Didn't I bcc you when I had that email debate with Chomsky?

Yeah his logic skills are very high, but I was able to drill down to his  inconsistency. And yes similar to Armstrong, he started to exhibit the same sudden (opportunistic) reduction of comprehension skills once I cornered him in logic. Would need to dig that up to refresh my memory. I don't have time right now. It is in my email archives.

Chomsky and Armstrong both seem to fall victim to the usual Socialist (collectivist) notion that solutions are only viable if they protect all the people. There will never be a way to outlaw nature to protect those who are sheep. Thus for those two if they can't outlaw nature, then there is no hope.

Yeah Armstrong is a collectivist and frames all possible solutions in terms of reforming collectivism. Hahaha. He learned nothing from history.

Armstrong thinks his stance, that a global top-down power structure doesn't exist, is congruent with chaotic nature, i.e. that such a top-down power structure would defy the chaos of nature. What he fails to see is that the top-down power structure is a culling of the sheep and the top-down globalist are a cancer that is dying with the host, i.e. chaotic nature (thermodynamics) is winning (continues 2nd Law trend to maximum). The most competitive of us move on to the new fledging growth frontier of high tech, e.g. crypto-currency.

Remember we covered before how the inherited primitive, post-paleozoic, hunter-gatherer fear shuts down the pre-frontal rational part of the brain:

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Existential_Fear


Anonymous (not Armstrong) wrote:
> When I use the term gatekeeper I intend it as a catch all phrase for
> various levels of engagement, some of it conscious and ideologically
> driven or out of self interest and greed, and other elements unconscious
> through delusional thinking, group think, cognitive dissonance, or fear.
> So, yes, I too see that because there are many permutations it becomes
> difficult for most people to see patterns through the chaos.
> Armstrong may be a de facto gatekeeper in the sense that he deludes
> himself and this delusion is reinforced by the groupthink of those he
> interacts with.  Is it possible Armstrong represents an archetype of
> denial that once effectively cornered and challenged, responds in the
> highly irrational way Chomsky has in the past employing doublethink?  For
> instance, Chomsky is on record saying if 9/11 was a false flag then it
> would be the most monumental historical event in modern times and then
> when cornered with evidence says even if 9/11 was a false flag it is of no
> important consequence.  Which is it?  Armstrong is an intellectual
> lightweight compared to Chomsky, but the process is the same.  I recently
> learned that in a discussion with another prominent academic, Chomsky said
> if the elites assassinated JFK then all is lost because that means TPTB
> are too powerful and we can never defeat them.  Is Chomsky also gripped by
> fear, either conscious or unconscious?
> These psychological dissections can be delicate.  The patterns are
> universal.

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Subject: No controlled gatekeepers, just a natural myopia of sheeple
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 29, 2014 10:53 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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I don't believe all these people are intentional gatekeepers. I can't prove it, but it just doesn't fit with the nature of chaos for the globalists to have such explicit control over so many people.

Rather it is appears to be the natural effects of the various ways humans process information.

The globalists succeed precisely because people don't see any solution, thus they debate on a 1000 variants of non-solutions, i.e. the globalists occupy the natural (now global due to technology) power vacuum of voting.

Nature intended for people to be diverse, that is the only way solutions can be found via trial and error, e.g. the efforts of yours truly with crypto-currency.

The high technology frontier solution will thus be grass roots and not everyone will be on board.

Which is exactly what I explained to Armstrong in my latest emails about crypto-currency as opposed to a one world reserve currency.

Armstrong can only see the "solution" (non-solution sustaining defacto world goverment of the DEEP STATE, i.e. 4th branch of govt) of fixing government. He can't see outside that box.

He is unconvinced of the power of the globalists and global coordination, because he sees disarray behind the political curtain. Catherine Austin Fitts who was actually inside the government as former Assistant Secretary of HUD and former Wall Street insider at Drilon & Read, has an interview where she explains that in her experience behind the curtain, the government does appear to be dysfunctional and in disarray, but when the government decides to get something done that is diabolical it is extremely efficient, e.g. her and Gary Webb's (and Michael Ruppert's) research uncovering the connection of the master planned fraud in HUD combined with the inner city drug trade. She was able to correlate it with a statistical computer model. Armstrong doesn't respect others enough to even investigate her computer model and knowledge. He thinks he knows everything, which is the hubris of an idiot. Ditto 9/11 as an example of efficiency of the DEEP STATE.

I had sent Armstrong that Fitt's interview before, wherein she also explains where the Black Budget goes and what it is used for.

As for her being behind the curtain, she had personal conversations with for example Janet Napolitano, the former head of Homelust ScrewUrity, who told Catherine to expect unrest and potential martial law in the future. Can you find the quote or video where was talking about that? I can't find it any more.

Here is the quote of what I posted on April 5, 2014:

P.S. $4 trillion of it has been unaccounted for in the USA Federal budget and is called the "black budget". Imagine what the "Fourth Branch" of government can do with $4 trillion.

Catherine Austin Fitts' point that government intentionally designs in
failure when it is in its best interest but can act very swiftly when that
is in its best interest (i.e. the best interests of the elite "Fourth
Branch of Government" who capture the government). She talks about the $4
trillion black budget. I highly recommend listening to the audio interview. She
is very articulate and gets directly to the point. She was former Assistant
Security of HUD in the USA government. She was also a major player on
Wallstreet. So she has insider connections. Janet Napolitano once told her
to prepare for mass violence and upheaval in the USA after 2016.

http://www.dailypaul.com/314402/complete-breakdown-of-financial-controls-in-us-government-says-austin-fitts


Anonymous (not Armstrong) wrote:
> I'm not so sure, over the last couple of years, gatekeepers like Paul
> Craig Roberts have had to shift from their blow back stance to grudgingly
> admitting 9/11 was a false flag attack.  If he didn't make this admission,
> he would finally lose all credibility as a gatekeeper working the "awake"
> alternative news feeds - and he was getting constantly flamed before he
> changed his stance.  We also have the situation of Russia Today, a
> globalist media tool, running 9/11 false flag stories.  RT is the more
> moderate less bombastic alternative to cointellpro Alex Jones.  TPTB know
> more people are waking up to 9/11 and they are using a multipronged
> approach using various gatekeeping protocols and more recently direct
> attacks in the mainstream media that are frankly ludicrous.
> You see a careful nuance in Armstrong's argument.  He admits there is more
> to the attack than the official story, then he still blames the
> "terrorists"*, because TPTB must have their "global war on terror" and
> their excuse for a domestic police state.
> * Three early limited hangouts were (1) govt incompetence, (2) blow back ,
> (3) neocons or military industrial complex types knowing an attack was
> about to take place and allowing it to happen, and (4) number three with
> the addition of helping to facilitate it.   Armstrong is running with
> number four.  More elaborate versions came out later with various red
> herrings to create a super fog of disinfo confusing the shit out of a lot
> of people and conflating bizarre speculation with truthers to make them
> look nuts.
> As an aside and FWIW, I am certain parts of the middle east, in particular
> Syria, are highly organized staging grounds for the professional training
> of terrorists using the CIA and several intelligence agencies from other
> nations.   The intention is to send them or allow them to go to various
> parts of the world for attacks that will continue to justify the global
> war on terror.
> So far, despite the moving limited hangout goalpost on many issues (e.g.
> in the last couple of months the MSM and establishment heavy hitters such
> as NASA have been admitting to the reality of geoengineering/chemtrails),
> TPTB are fighting to conceal the (1) full story of 9/11; (2) the pyramidal
> nature of globalist power with international bankers on top (new limited
> hangout is the 1% is a simple relatively unorganized "oligarchy"); (3) the
> rise of Technocracy; (4) and world government.
> Shelby, something I find humorous is the many statements fully admitting
> to a plan for world government by some of the most powerful and connected
> men in the 20th century seem to go completely unnoticed by the likes of
> Armstrong.

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Subject: Proof (in his own words) that Armstrong isn't behind the DEEP  curtain
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 29, 2014 2:26 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/29/one-world-currency-from-their-crack-in-the-wall/



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/25/russia-leaks-on-911-oops-didnt-think-of-that-one/




http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/29/free-press-freedom-to-comply-with-government-or-jail-time/


So Armstrong can't name the names of who perpetrated 9/11 and he doesn't know where the Black Budget goes, thus he isn't behind the DEEP curtain where the globalists are operating.



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/29/is-the-new-world-order-cracking-apart/


Armstrong's illogic is hopeless. How does the above logically conclude anything about the globalist control over the NSA? Of course the NSA is digging up dirt on all politicians, because blackmail is how the globalists keep the politicians inside their agenda. Even Martin himself had written about the blackmail strategy.

And yes that is one way they control Hillary Clinton. The other is her power is dependent on them.

Armstrong apparently just has difficulty assimilating a lot of puzzle pieces and thus can't connect the dots of his own posts.

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Subject: Spoils to the victor of the free market is not enforcement?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 29, 2014 1:47 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/29/one-world-currency-from-their-crack-in-the-wall/



Armstrong conflates my prior email with a goldbug hard money position. His comprehension is extremely low, not even in the 80th percentile. I would guess his verbal SAT was 500 or below.

I made no reference to hard money controls. My question is who is going to control the parameters (i.e. basket weightings or money supply) of the so called independent reserve currency?

Martin are you delusional enough to believe that regardless of whether the free movement of capital to the USA escaping Europe after WW1 was a free market choice of reserve currency venue, that the USA's reserve currency status meant an entity was handed the control over the money supply of that reserve currency. And this afforded great power and spoils to that entity.

Who will fill that power vacuum in your independent reserve currency to maintain a fair set of parameters?

You see you argue an illogical position from the standpoint of entropy and thermodynamics. You yourself argue that it is impossible to maintain harmony among disparate cultures and nations, yet then when it comes the independent reserve currency you argue by implication that they will be in harmony. Because something or someone has to set the parameters of this so called reserve currency. The weightings or money supply can't just magically control themselves.

Again you debate disingenuously. I never wrote that crypto-currency would take over the world. I wrote that the majority would ride with the one world outcome and depend on goverment (which why the majority of the world is headed into a Mad max outcome), while the fewer members of the high tech community would break away from this cancer and ride UNTAXABLE in crypto-currency.


Our popcorn is ready. We will watch your delusional reform scenario fall into the abyss, while we go forth making the new economy and being prosperous and UNTOUCHABLE by government.

Get off my lawn.

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Subject: The one world reserve currency will be enforced by whom?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 29, 2014 8:44 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/27/one-world-government/

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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/27/govt-has-lost-all-power-to-do-anything-the-void-in-leadership/

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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/28/one-world-government-impossible-one-world-currency-inevitable/


Armstrong routinely builds strawmen to form faux argumentation, i.e. no where did I assert that an OFFICIAL (as opposed to the defacto one we have now hiding behind a deeper curtain than Armstrong has visited) one world government was required to bring about a one world reserve currency. We already have a global (one world) reserve currency today, the dollar.

But every time I ask Armstrong a question which challenges his logic, he is unable to answer. So here we go again and he WON'T be able to answer for if he did, he would have to admit his error.

So who will enforce this reserve currency which is not tied to any government central bank, political fiscal process, and national debt?

These diverse cultures and nation-states are going to remain in perfect harmony in terms of agreeing to honor the discipline of this reserve currency without trying to gain any leverage (control) over it? So the stronger nations won't be able to obtain leverage over the smaller nations in terms of the enforcement and evolution of this reserve currency?

Illogical Nonsense.

The only way such a one world reserve currency will have the desired discipline on the nations (i.e. a government that is running fiscal deficits for the wrong reasons will see its currency and bond markets pummeled), is if there is force backing it so it will have the necessary confidence.

Armstrong can't see the real power players of the DEEP STATE that is the defacto world government today. He only sees the public and political curtain dog & pony circus that is allowed to run amok while the real power sits back and awaits the outcome of "the borrower is slave to the lender" or "he who controls the gold, makes the rules".

Those globalists are guiding the nation-states towards their debt collapse where they will fall into the lap of the true power structure which owns the fixed capital, Industrial world. They control the multi-nationals too.

Armstrong hilariously claims that the software giants such as Google are distancing themselves from the NSA corruption and cites this as evidence that the globalist plans and power is waning.

Hahaha, what a myopic dimwit he can be at times.

Yeah Google will put on a good dog & pony show for naive idiots to believe, while the astute sovereign hackers (Knowledge Age workers) understand very well that Google continues its march towards enabling the globalist TECHNOCRACY.

I don't have time to argue with a blinded man. I have hacker work to do.

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Subject: crypto-currency is not intended to entirely replace fiat
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 29, 2014 7:48 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/27/can-countries-devalue-a-currency-anymore/



These comments make it painfully obvious that Armstrong does not
understand the global trend underway with the transition from the
Industrial (fixed capital) Age to individual ownership of one's productive
capital in the Knowledge Age. For details on that trend, refer to my prior
writings upthread. Specifically knowledge workers today can produce and
distribute their own work individually without relying on the Theory of
the Firm and finance. The 3D printer is yet another example of this trend
underway.

He is framing the issue with the wrong perspective, thus he entirely
misses the point and thus the correct conclusion.

Crypto-currency doesn't need the entire world's confidence and acceptance.
The sovereign Knowledge Age workers are adopting it. And will use to do
UNTAXABLE(due to perfect anonymity in altcoins that are superior to
Bitcoin) Knowledge Age commerce. Yes the IRS can track ownership in
Bitcoin but they won't be able to for anonymous altcoins.

The rest of humanity will descend into enslavement in a one world reserve
currency and a de facto DEEP STATE that runs the dying fixed capital age
and the concept of the nation-state which raison d'etre was the politics
of finance.

See the one world outcome is the death star of collectivism. Again I refer
him to my seminal article on the Rise of Knowledge:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212

Focus on the "Rise of Knowledge" essay and understand why savings must
decay otherwise knowledge doesn't advance.

I expounded on a later blog:

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Thought_Isn%27t_Fungible


Armstrong exhibits complete ignorance of the fact that Satoshi solved the
open Byzantine General's problem, and thus no one controls the value of
the currency. The currency's value is set by the free market and can not
be controlled.

The proof that the currency is valid is created by the value the free
market assigns to it. Bitcoin is valid today at $400+.

Armstrong is stuck in an anarchic idea of government and finance. He is
blinded to the decentralized rise of the sovereign individual in the
Knowledge Age. Thus to his hammer everything looks like a nail. He can
only see everything in terms of government. He can't see the true
revolution going on which government can't do a damn thing to stop.

Let them try to turn off the electricity. Watch how fast the Knowledge Age
workers engineer a solution that bypasses their grid.

Checkmate for the Industrial Age, nation-states, and voting. Those are the
dinosaurs.

When will Armstrong have the epiphany and realize what time it really is?

His model is screaming that I am correct. Yet he is blinded by his old age
and ingrained thought patterns and experience as a hedge fund manager.

He was never a hacker so he doesn't really understand our culture. We are
extremely sovereign.

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Subject: what is really happening in India (and China and globally)
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 29, 2014 6:35 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Before we get into the debate about a global elite that governs the world from behind the DEEPER curtain from which Armstrong has never been, let's first entertain hypothesis on India's future (and how Australia ties in).

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/21/australia-a-fresh-look-at-down-under/

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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/20/india/

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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/28/india-the-exception/

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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/29/india-part-ii/



Remember I wrote in a previous post that China didn't rise because of some erroneous notion of superior economic performance due to top-down Communist 5 year and 10 year planning, but rather because "it was just time" because the people were so undervalued. Ditto India where 1/4 to 1/3 of the population can't get enough to eat without government subsidies. India is dearth of infrastructure. But as Micheal Pettis explained, China over developed its infrastructure to a level that is higher than the income earning potential of the people. However, China has a large segment of its population that is highly educated, so it should be able to transition to higher valued production and services and absorb some its high-end infrastructure over time. Nevertheless there is a huge debt bubble (i.e. economic waste) that has to be collapsed and written off in China over the next several years.

India has some highly educated, but due to the caste system and higher levels of poverty, a large segment of India's population is undereducated. It doesn't appear that India would be able to duplicate the huge top-down managed debt bubble as China did by perpetually devaluing the Yuan and penalizing savers by locking them in non-market interest rates thus blowing huge bubbles in the stock market and condos, in order to create high enough participation rates for fixed capital investment driven employment for the undereducated. I just can't see India duplicating China's top-down model. India is a model of unified chaos and diversity.

Thus it appears to me that India must rise more organically with lower interference from the State, and private investment and initiative taking the lead. This means a massive push to by the population to become educated and compete, which in itself is an economic driver.

It is only through debt that you can keep the tribes unified economically. I see this in every country. Even China had to use heavy handed tactics and then a debt bubble to keep their sheep in line. Ditto Europe. You can keep the country unified for safe passage via culture, but you won't get extreme patriotism and nationalism unless you have massive debt to cause people to prefer a national priority over selfish priorities.

Thus as we see it is time for India to rise on Martin's chart, I think this is also about the rest of the world declining, and India rising but not no where near as high as where the West was at its peak a decade ago.

China will also peak out at a much lower level than where the West was.

Why?

Because I have been explaining we are moving from the Industrial (fixed capital) Age to the Knowledge Age where individuals will own their productive capacity and can't be bought with financial capital.

Thus the nation-state concept has peaked. The globalists are consolidating power now to try to fend off the Knowledge Age, but they will fail (although they will succeed to enslave those who don't transition and remain dependent on the one world reserve currency and governments).

Martin is entirely missing the big picture.

The individual is rising. Government is dying, and as it last hurrah it will descend into one world government which in fact already exist de facto.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: "...world government whether or not you like it,   by conquest or consent."
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, May 26, 2014 10:59 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or
consent." - Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James
Warburg

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/26/france-has-largest-swing-in-all-of-europe-against-the-eu-commission-and-its-socialist-agenda/


Martin Armstrong is getting giddy about the people rising up, but as
happened in Ukraine, there persists the East vs. West faux conflict is a
globalist strategy to co-opt any sovereignty movements. Martin forgets the
globalists have several weapons in their arsenal:

1. They can incite Russia to roll tanks into France within 31 days, i.e.
they can bring war again to Europe to force Europeans back into supporting
a EU to obtain peace. They did this before and they can do it again if the
Europeans haven't yet been pummeled into submission. The globalists
control NATO.

2. The globalists control banks, central banks, corporations and finance
in Europe. They can cause massive bankruptcy at will. They can do this in
targeted fashion along with war to prevent a reset and pummel Europeans
into the beggar ass-up-in-the-air position. European boomers will change
their stance when their manicured bike paths, universal health care, and
other niceties are threatened.

3. The globalists control the mass media. And one way to diffuse popular
movements is to popularize movements and design them to fail (installing
leaders who are bought off and promoting them to the public as the real
deal) thus making the people (just like in Ukraine) hamsters inside of
spinning wheels going nowhere.

Martin doesn't seem to understand that VOTING IS THE PROBLEM. He will
learn this lesson the hard way. BY 2032 or earlier, he will admit to me he
was wrong and I was correct.

I remember telling my grandfather when I was 15 or 16 that VOTING IS THE
PROBLEM. How come I can figure that out at such a young age, yet grown men
still have this delusion and don't understand the thermodynamics of the
power vacuum. For as long as men are deluded by the lie of the power of
voting, they will forever be hamsters. The desire to collectivize creates
a Coasian barrier to maximum entropy. The globalists then are entrusted to
design in the creative destruction, which is precisely the destruction of
the nation-states ongoing. You see while the nation states die and head
towards world government, the entropy routes around the Coasian barrier
into the technology arena, e.g. the crypto-currency era is born. In other
words, the only thing that has ever worked are frontiers that route around
the desire of stupid men to collectivize their votes. From the Biblical
perspective, the astute insight (whether God exists is irrelevant to
whether the lesson is astute) God tried to teach men this in 1 Samuel 8,
but men did not listen. So God said let them have their government and
reap what it will sow. 1 Samuel 15 was a fulfillment of the outcome of
such a Coasian barrier.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/26/bildebergs-losing-control/


The world government already exists, but not yet in the open. THE DEEP
STATE is already the defacto government. You have written about its
existence.

You contradict yourself. You state elite groups can't cooperate, yet you
admit the very powerful DEEP STATE exists. What you fail to incorporate
into your logic is the thermodynamic fact that organisms (even in a Petri
dish) can be incentivized to cooperate within a Coasian barrier by some
common survival or profit strategy. Did Thatcher win on the EU? No! The
Bilderbergs and the DEEP STATE won.

You only see the creative destruction of the nation-states as the
invisible hand. The elite power structure is a natural Coasian result and
it isn't invisible. It exists. You even admitted it exists. You think the
DEEP STATE is temporary, yet it has been there since the time of the Kings
and it is growing more and more intrusive and powerful.

You should go listen to Hillary speak on Youtube where was speaking at the
CFR so you can correct your erroneous assumption.

As the nation-states collapse in the sovereign debt crisis, the borrower
is slave to the lender, and the defacto government will transitioned to
the official government. The EU Commission is an early example of this
open form of dictatorship that already exists in THE DEEP STATE.

Nobody is paying me even one penny to write these emails to you. Don't
blame your ignorance on alleged malice of those who are smarter than you,
because you look like a fool barking at shadows of yourself.

You were not inside the curtain of THE DEEP STATE. You were only inside
the political curtain slightly, and not enough to know all the inner
workings of THE DEEP STATE which is indeed controlled by the globalists.
You've never even attended Council of Foreign Relations insider meetings.
You are not even a lowly ranked member?

It is much too late to reform. Voting failed. THE DEEP STATE was the
result of voting.

Voting now is all about a manipulated game of the globalists that will
legitimize their control in an official way. This has all been planned out
and the uprisings are proceeding according to the globalist agenda
perfectly.

The people will be fooled into thinking they had risen up against
corruption. And in that process the sheeople will actually legitimize the
defacto dictatorship that is running the world now.

The real evil are naive men who don't understand thermodynamics and thus
don't understand that collectivized voting is the problem. And you sir,
are one of the sheep.

I include below some anonymous communications from a female. Aren't you
ashamed of yourself sir, that a female is more analytically astute than
you. That should be the forte of a man.

I explained it the following way in 2010 when I correctly predicted the EU
would not disintegrate:

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Understand%20Everything%20Fundamentally.html


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nothing new for you and I but the picture made me laugh.

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2143-why-not-believing-in-conspiracies-is-a-sure-sign-of-mental-retardation


Yeah, but he's still a blowhard idiot.  He knows just enough layered
propaganda to
rationalize a fantasy world view.
I recently attempted to combat this Russia as the clever underdog rival BS by
pointing out that the Russian government (to include Putin) was implicated
in a
number of false flag attacks blamed on the Chechens to justify a brutal
crackdown.
As you probably recall, whistleblower Alexander Litvinenko was murdered via
radioactive polonium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
As I said before the Saudi Russian threat was staged theater, a Hegelian
misdirect.
KSA was being framed as a dangerous rogue nation to take the fall for the
expansion
of Al Qaeda and the eventual end of the petrodollar.  Ludicrous assertions by
Zionist gatekeeper writers such as Michael Snyder included a narrative
that KSA had
been blackmailing the US in the Syria affair to support terrorism was
going to
punish the US for not bombing Syria by abandoning the sale of oil for
dollars.  Can
you imagine?  It was so ridiculous that the psy op had to be abandoned for
the
Russia and China as faux antagonists theme.
When the USSR broke apart, the first phase of Operation Gladio, the
massive US/NATO
false flag operation, switched gears and as part of that process a
political purge
in Turkey resulted in the several high ranking Turkish generals fled to
Russia.
These defecting Turkish generals told the Russia everything about Gladio.
If the
Russians had revealed this information to the world, the US and European
political
foundations would have been shaken down to their cores.  Not a word from the
Russians.  This situation is well known in US intelligence circles, as
revealed in
detail by US FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds.
During the height of the Syrian conflict, the NY Times featured a Putin
op-ed,
indicative of the international coverage his statements on US involvement
in the
conflict was getting in prominent media sources.  He could have easily
brought up
the history of Al Qaeda as a direct CIA creation and how the US government
and its
allies were still actively funding, arming, and training the supposed
organization
behind the 9/11 attacks.  Again, not a word.
Finally, I believe I recently told you about the Russian intelligence
participation
in the assassination of the what was nearly the entire Polish government and
national banking leadership after they refused to work with the IMF.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/09/the-grand-chess-board-of-world-war-iii/
Russia is in a state of deep capture as much as the US is.  The only
difference is
the US is the still the power center of the NWO, esp. in its role as military
hegemon and ultimate global mafia enforcer.
I've mentioned also that Brandon Smith, a very good young Libertarian-minded
business writer and NWO researcher, has also been proving the case that
Russia is in
the tight grip of the NWO and the West vs. East meme is an elite op.  He
recently
touched upon this theme again in a recent article that featured insightful
speculation on the Euroclear purchase of US debt. You should skim this one.
It's the alt-market link directly below.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2145-who-is-the-new-secret-buyer-of-us-debt


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: EU plan was not a failure, the nation-states are destroyed
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, May 26, 2014 11:20 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/26/hollande-calls-for-eu-to-reduce-its-role/


The bureaucrats were given the ideology and agenda you saw on the public
face of it, but the globalist damn well knew they were creating it to fail
on purpose, because they knew the nation-states of Europe would be
destroyed by it and no longer able to return to sovereignty.

It is no longer reversible for economic reasons. To reverse it would be
mean too much pain for European boomers who are too old to fight and
rebuild.

The globalists' plan is working out as planned.

Yet you only see the public face it. You are fooled by the magician's
illusion, i.e. you are a sheep and can only see the ass of the sheep in
front of you.

Funny, I have similar feelings about all political parties too!

I'm not far away from thoughts that Dark Enlightenment is a doomsday cult.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Armstrong stumbles onto the truth and still can't admit it
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, May 26, 2014 4:09 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/25/russia-leaks-on-911-oops-didnt-think-of-that-one/



The Bilderbergs and members of the Council on Foreign Relations are the
government dimwit. All political leaders are members, and even Hillary
Clinton admitted the White House always consults with them.

Correct voting has never and will never change the fact that elected
others to make decisions is a power vacuum. Why is it so hard for you to
understand this simple concept which has been proven over and over in
history to be the only case.

Never has it changed. Never has humanity escaped from this power vacuum.
The only solution has always been escape to a frontier.

And yes the multi-nationals are part of that web of power structure that
is above the law, because they are the same people as I showed you
(several times) with the newscientist link.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/25/first-time-in-british-history-3rd-party-wins-welcome-the-rise-in-3rd-parties/


The political unrest will appear to reform the system but in reality the
same people will still be in control.

Farange and Thatcher were not able to stop the power vacuum. The people
will rise up and fall right into the lap of the power structure as you saw
in Ukraine.

The people can't escape from cancer by perpetuating the power vacuum of
collective action. The only escape from a disease is to escape from the
cause of the disease.

VOTING IS THE CAUSE OF THE DISEASE. It is a collective of power, thus a
power vacuum. Why does an animal hunt? Because it must eat. Why does a
bank robber rob banks? Because that is where the money is. When ever there
exists a harvestable resource, it will be harvested.

VOTING transfers power from the individual to the top-down collective.

Only decentralized actions on frontiers are empowering to the individual.

Learn some thermodynamics please!

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Example of a pompous idiot
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, May 25, 2014 4:42 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/25/barclays-gold-manipulation-dr-evil/


How many times in the past I have challenged Armstrong to answer whether
he is privy to the exact discussions at for example Bilderberg and
Trilateralist group meetings.

Yet he claims he is "there" and knows everything.

I have challenged him to answer why these meetings are not conducted in
public, given that cartels are illegal.

I have asked Armstrong to explain why for example the Rockefeller
foundation has been funding environmentalism bullshit. Why Rockefeller was
involved in the creation of the League of Nations and then the U.N. (he
even provided the location in New York) subsequently the 1972 Convention
of Human Environment.

I have asked him to explain why these globalists were funding the
Communist revolutions as documented by Anthony Sutton's impeccable
research which followed the money trail.

Let's not forget how Rockefeller gained a monopoly with Standard Oil by
gaining influence of regulatory planning and placement of rail lines.
Government capture is always essential for the multi-nationals. Buffet for
example needs regulatory licenses for his Geico insurance business.
Multi-nationals always weave a web of control because it is the best
insurance policy for their continued profits.

Of course these bastards are allowed run amok and not be concerned about
the future. The nation-state financial systems are always a resource to be
exhausted, crashed, and restarted anew. And always it is by their hand of
control that the renewal is formed.

What is the use of debating a pompous idiot? Why should I bother to
construct an elaborate and detailed rebuttal? He would ignore it any way,
as he continues to do.

Follow this idiot at your own peril.

I am done with him.

Bye.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Articulation of the globalist objective
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 24, 2014 6:01 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/24/banks-manipulating-markets/


Liar. I have articulated the globalist motive and objective to you several
times. As I said, every time you write disingenuously, I lose more of the
immense respect I had gained for you. Why can't you rise to respectful
standard of discourse? That is why I resort to frustration words such as
"fuck".

The relatively few number of globalists through their documented web of
ownership as follows:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

Have a motive to capture government and also to prevent competition. You
yourself have written about how only multi-nationals can do business
abroad now and American small businessmen are locked out by the capital
controls put in place by 9/11 and FACHA.

They are consolidating top-down control with a strategy of aiding and
abetting corruption of the nation-state institutions (e.g. Goldman Sachs
hid Greece's financials with derivatives to help worsen their sovereign
debt crisis), which will cause the global population to accede to reform
which will involve globalized institutions for transparency of
nation-states. For example, there will end up one international trade
currency, which the other nation-state currencies will float against. And
you Martin have even advocated this outcome!

One the multi-nationals get their tentacles on these globalized
institutions, they will truly have achieved taxation and government
without representation. We will be effectively ruled from far away and our
nation-state governments will just be figureheads, e.g. like the European
Parliament wherein the European Commission really has all the power.

Just because you can't take the time to weave all the pieces of the puzzle
together and you only want to base your assertions on your limited scope
of what you directly see and hear as a hedge fund manager, doesn't mean
you are correct.

You should know that not sampling some data doesn't make your statistical
conclusions complete.

I am not going to repeat all my prior information which I emailed you
documenting all the support data and puzzle pieces.

If you choose to be ignorant, that is your prerogative. But you are
committing an egregious sin by propagating your bias as fact to a very
important audience.

Cross posting...


Go to the end of the Dark Enlightenment and Max Max threads in the Politics & Society forum for more history on my debate with him. Also the thread on designing a perfect society.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6567660

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6889554

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6496672


Armstrong thinks we can reform politics. I am saying politics always ends up in Totalitarianism. The only thing that has saved mankind every time is a frontier. Before it was geographical escape (e.g. birth of the U.S.A.) and cash (e.g. gold), but now those frontiers are being closed. So we only have crypto-currency (and internet businesses perhaps even anonymously, e.g. programming work,  to escape Totalitarianism) remaining as a frontier.