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sr. member
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January 28, 2016, 08:55:18 AM
They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

Simple, its because it is still illegal in some parts of the world so they are purchasing from darknet markets "anonymously". I guess that is much safer for them to buy online than in real life (probably because of the risks having a deal to an undercover) Cheesy

I read some where saying that the silk road market reduced some kind of drug related crimes a lot. Because people did not have to trade face to face.
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January 24, 2016, 04:42:42 AM
They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

Simple, its because it is still illegal in some parts of the world so they are purchasing from darknet markets "anonymously". I guess that is much safer for them to buy online than in real life (probably because of the risks having a deal to an undercover) Cheesy
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January 22, 2016, 10:55:18 PM
i think they do that dark market bcause everthing they sale is an illegal things
the market is just a website they put the things to sell secrectly im sure..what?do you mean want to find the person who sell?
im sure you cant..its all secret dude...
sr. member
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January 22, 2016, 06:03:15 PM
They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?
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January 18, 2016, 10:12:54 PM
They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.
legendary
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January 18, 2016, 04:45:14 PM
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

Dont underestimate the demand these dark markets still create. Do you think criminals would use bitcoin if there were no darkmarkets, what about all the drug users never wanting to use bitcoin, but NEED to to get good quality drugs... This STILL plays a HUGE part in the bitcoinrate...
Yep.  I don't know the numbers involved, but I think dark markets are a big driving force behind btc.  And gambling.  Honestly, the places to legitimately spend bitcoin are likely fewer than places you can buy stuff on the dark markets.
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January 18, 2016, 01:55:10 AM
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

Dont underestimate the demand these dark markets still create. Do you think criminals would use bitcoin if there were no darkmarkets, what about all the drug users never wanting to use bitcoin, but NEED to to get good quality drugs... This STILL plays a HUGE part in the bitcoinrate...
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January 16, 2016, 04:31:41 AM
THIS NEEDS MORE ATTENTION!!
Ill just leave this here.

"The appeal [of Ross Ulbricht] is scheduled to be filed January 12, 2016."

http://freeross.org/donate-now-2/



That is so sad!  land of the free... sure.  Seems not even white folks can get away with crime anymore.
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January 13, 2016, 09:13:07 AM
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

So you say. But I'm not so sure about it. Maybe btc is secretly really backed by its use in blackmarket. It would explain the volatility that is truly inherent to the bitcoin!
legendary
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January 12, 2016, 11:15:18 PM
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.
I'd agree. I logged onto the darknet once; merely out of curiosity and all the "talk" and press it was receiving at the time of the Silk Road scandal. I used the method listed on the Reddit forum; I logged in using an OS called Tails run from a USB drive. They have an entire "this is how you need to do it and only do it this way" Guide; which led me to believe that either the people who operate and use those sites are either highly paranoid, or are paranoid for good reason.

Regarding what I saw; mostly narcotics; but a lot of the items I couldn't but laugh at wondering if "someone" was actually selling that kind of item and/or service. I don't remember which marketplace I went on; but the had categories, from:  Buying accounts like bank accounts, paypal accounts, etc; to conterfeit money for sale; to drugs; to weapons; services of all sorts; fake ID's and fake identites; and even a section for "persuasion" which included harrassment for hire.

A lot of it seemed to me like "ok you can buy drugs or a fake ID here". But at the same time; I honestly wondered if the people claiming to sell "near perfect conterfeit Euros" and "stolen credit cards" were actually real items for sale; or people just scamming/trying to scam naive buyers.

Regardless, I logged on that once, and haven't been back since.

Lastly; there was a lot of general items for sale too:  Next to Harassment Services they had Electronics for sale; Cameras, Computers - truly bizarre.

Strato
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January 11, 2016, 05:14:10 PM
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.
legendary
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January 11, 2016, 03:12:43 AM
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My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....
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January 11, 2016, 02:45:57 AM
#98
Ill just leave this here.

"The appeal [of Ross Ulbricht] is scheduled to be filed January 12, 2016."

http://freeross.org/donate-now-2/



That is so sad!  land of the free... sure.  Seems not even white folks can get away with crime anymore.
newbie
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January 10, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
#97
I only know about tor web is:
It is a dark internet space where only special users(by changing IP or manipulating connection) or governmental agencies can access...
Tor web cannot be accessed by searching on normal search engines...
There are many ways to access tor web..
I think you should find solution on YouTube or google to access tor..
legendary
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January 06, 2016, 09:01:25 PM
#96
Ill just leave this here.

"The appeal [of Ross Ulbricht] is scheduled to be filed January 12, 2016."

http://freeross.org/donate-now-2/

hero member
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January 06, 2016, 02:57:10 PM
#95

Yeah it is beyond me why you even want to be there. I am sure they have  'interesting' products, but for me staying out of jail is way more important.
No dark marketplaces for me.


There's nothing illegal about taking a look around. I did it once. It wasn't very exciting and Tor is a pain in the ass. If I need something illegal I'll buy it from a guy who knows a guy in meatspace.

Illegal is never good. I never will visit such a dark market/site simply because those people are not in my league.
After all, there is a reason why it's illegal...

Yeah, it's illegal because a bunch of very precise people decided it was so...

If your government decided that kissing in public was illegal because it could shock people, would you follow it?
Incredible how people tend to forget the law is produced by just a few hundreds of people, who can be influenced, biased, corrupted or simply wrong.

The law isn't always good. And when it's not it's the duty of citizens to fight it.

You are so right when you say this.
Yes some things which the governement finds illegal are far from illegal.
Nonetheless the general sentiment on those market places is real illegal things. Which should be forbidden.


Agreed. Most of them are sites promoting prostitution, weaponds/drugs sales...

But it's important to remember illegal is mostly a matter of perspective  Cheesy

Perspective can be narrowed down too.
Weapons should be illegal and are
Softdrugs is illegal in some countries.
Harddrugs is illegal in all countries.

With other words, we all know which kind of items can be found on those market places and no average joe has anything to do on a dark market place, period!
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January 06, 2016, 04:20:17 AM
#94

Yeah it is beyond me why you even want to be there. I am sure they have  'interesting' products, but for me staying out of jail is way more important.
No dark marketplaces for me.


There's nothing illegal about taking a look around. I did it once. It wasn't very exciting and Tor is a pain in the ass. If I need something illegal I'll buy it from a guy who knows a guy in meatspace.

Illegal is never good. I never will visit such a dark market/site simply because those people are not in my league.
After all, there is a reason why it's illegal...

Yeah, it's illegal because a bunch of very precise people decided it was so...

If your government decided that kissing in public was illegal because it could shock people, would you follow it?
Incredible how people tend to forget the law is produced by just a few hundreds of people, who can be influenced, biased, corrupted or simply wrong.

The law isn't always good. And when it's not it's the duty of citizens to fight it.

You are so right when you say this.
Yes some things which the governement finds illegal are far from illegal.
Nonetheless the general sentiment on those market places is real illegal things. Which should be forbidden.


Agreed. Most of them are sites promoting prostitution, weaponds/drugs sales...

But it's important to remember illegal is mostly a matter of perspective  Cheesy
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January 05, 2016, 05:34:56 PM
#93

Yeah it is beyond me why you even want to be there. I am sure they have  'interesting' products, but for me staying out of jail is way more important.
No dark marketplaces for me.


There's nothing illegal about taking a look around. I did it once. It wasn't very exciting and Tor is a pain in the ass. If I need something illegal I'll buy it from a guy who knows a guy in meatspace.

Illegal is never good. I never will visit such a dark market/site simply because those people are not in my league.
After all, there is a reason why it's illegal...

Yeah, it's illegal because a bunch of very precise people decided it was so...

If your government decided that kissing in public was illegal because it could shock people, would you follow it?
Incredible how people tend to forget the law is produced by just a few hundreds of people, who can be influenced, biased, corrupted or simply wrong.

The law isn't always good. And when it's not it's the duty of citizens to fight it.

You are so right when you say this.
Yes some things which the governement finds illegal are far from illegal.
Nonetheless the general sentiment on those market places is real illegal things. Which should be forbidden.
hero member
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January 05, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
#92
The hardest part (in my own view) it's the fact that, to do a marketplace on TOR you can't use JS, JSON, JAVA, PHP (the right way) and lotta programming that is very important to cut off the bad guys. Darknet, deepweb, etc, is full, full, full of scammers, so, you need security. Using BTC it's cool but when you don't have full security it's a shot in the dark... honestly, it's hard to find a decent marketplace there. If you don't have full security, you may get involved with some serious businesses and consequently serious danger (like carding, bank drops, etc). The majority of people don't bother so much with this because carding it's not so serious as accept it.

Making a "marketplace" like thousands in darknet it's easy, but, you fall into the oldest methods of sale... using only html, email, etc. It doesn't transmit security for buyers neither for sellers... what insurance your trade have when you buy/sell physical stuffs or BTC, for example, when you only got buttons, a doubtful and late email answer? You need validation, etc... TOR is great, but trade into it (in my opinion) it's very hard. Ps.: The country you live makes lotta difference (don't know what's yours).

Cheers!  Cool
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