Topic: Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? - page 5. (Read 15542 times)

Quote from: cryptohunter on April 12, 2016, 08:34:28 PM

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Too bad the forum doesn't allow sharing of Ignore lists. It would be nice to be able to discuss the (negligible to nonexistent) prospects for Dash being the future internet of money while filtering out the ignorance, pumping and shilling on this thread.

Using the thread topic to evade the thread topic? Ooh, I see why they call you Smooth Wink

So what's the new tactic then, bore people away? Maybe best put Anonymint back in the sock draw, 'cos he's getting so far around the bend it's becoming entertainment.

Sorry to bring up what must be a scary topic Smooth but Dashes future is looking pretty damn good despite your best efforts. Try as you may Smooth, FUD just doesn't work as backing for a coin, the fed might get away with it but as good as your FUD is smooth, it ain't that good. Dash needs FUD too, it thrives on it and that makes you a Dash supporter Smoothiebabie! Dash keeps improving and progressing, you keep away anyone dumb enough to fall for your pitch and after a while... BOOM! you get a damnburst. That is, unless something better comes along. You going to build something better Smooth? Then you'd better hurry up, it'll be survival of the fittest in crypto and there's no room for pretenders.

FUD to a dasher = Facts Uncovering Deception.

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Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 12:29:36 AM

TLDR:
1. launch before he said he would
(not true, debunked)

2. launch with no windows wallets (every other dev launched with them and was called out for a scammer if they did not)
(not true, debunked)

3. mined it all up at 10x speed anyone else could after they "fixed it"
(not true, debunked)

4. he then got so excited that he slashed the minting back by 75% so he magnified his mistakes in mining up huge amounts of the coin to super super huge
(this was actually a good call as the ltc emission rate is too inflationary)

Who is this new scammer instamined710?? I was there AT the launch I WAS THERE watching it unfold in real time.

1. it did not launch on time, however I still waited for it to launch even though he said he wasn't going to and would try later.

2. It did not launch with windows wallet. Dashers trying to lie again. Other devs that were not called scammers did launch with a windows wallet.

3. trying to split hairs again, we know there was some "accident" and it stayed on low diff with huge block rewards.

4. It was not a good idea.

what does debunked mean to this person? confirmed?

I need to update my scammers/pumpers/protectors list. This person needs to be added asap.

where is your list? i could post this link in the OP of my "DASH - Love at first sight user accounts [Looking Beyond the Hype]" https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13200467 thread..

this will make it a bit more easier for the readers to take a look (of different angles) at these people Cool

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Quote from: smooth on April 12, 2016, 08:21:04 PM

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Too bad the forum doesn't allow sharing of Ignore lists. It would be nice to be able to discuss the (negligible to nonexistent) prospects for Dash being the future internet of money while filtering out the ignorance, pumping and shilling on this thread.

Using the thread topic to evade the thread topic? Ooh, I see why they call you Smooth Wink

So what's the new tactic then, bore people away? Maybe best put Anonymint back in the sock draw, 'cos he's getting so far around the bend it's becoming entertainment.

Sorry to bring up what must be a scary topic Smooth but Dashes future is looking pretty damn good despite your best efforts. Try as you may Smooth, FUD just doesn't work as backing for a coin, the fed might get away with it but as good as your FUD is smooth, it ain't that good. Dash needs FUD too, it thrives on it and that makes you a Dash supporter Smoothiebabie! Dash keeps improving and progressing, you keep away anyone dumb enough to fall for your pitch and after a while... BOOM! you get a damnburst. That is, unless something better comes along. You going to build something better Smooth? Then you'd better hurry up, it'll be survival of the fittest in crypto and there's no room for pretenders.

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Quote from: spatula on April 12, 2016, 08:18:18 PM

Now lets go the other direction and compare to a super legit crypto, like Bitcoin. My understanding is that there was a 6 day delay between genesis block and a public release of a windows client (or any client at all)

First of all the genesis block in Bitcoin is unspendable so it is really just an anchor for the chain, but second of all the genesis block is always created in advance of launch, and its timestamp is arbitrary. It has to be because it is compiled into the code. That's for every single coin.

BTW I think Bitcoin only ran on Windows at launch. Porting it to Linux came later.

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Everyone knows DASH had a shitshow launch. All your other claims are unfounded.

Really? Then why is Dash/Evan continuing to lie to investors and tell them it was "fairly and transparently" launched with recent edits to the ANN thread? I think we both know the answer.

All of my "claims", as you call them, are objective facts backed up by specific sources and citations. But maybe you are referring to someone else "unfounded claims"?

Bitcoin had a 6 day time period between genesis and public launch. It wasn't just the genesis block during that time, mining started immediately.

I do think that the DASH launch was a shitshow, but I don't think it was intentional, but I guess we will never know. However, just like bitcoin, it is "transparent" as the claim Evan makes, and "fair" is a subjective statement.

What about the launch wasn't transparent? You can go back and see EXACTLY what blocks were mined, and how fast. That sounds pretty textbook transparent to me.

"Fair" on the other hand, well that is up to the observer. I might not think the DASH launch was fair, as I was not there to mine. Just like I might not think the bitcoin launch was fair, as I was not there to mine (actually, no one was as it wasn't released until 6 days later). However, I know for a fact that the XMR launch was not fair, as the developers (smooth and friends) promoted a purposely 100x de-optimized miner to the public. There is more proof of that than there is of negative intentions of Evan, yet I never see you screaming "scam" about XMR.

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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG

Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 12:29:36 AM

TLDR:
1. launch before he said he would
(not true, debunked)

2. launch with no windows wallets (every other dev launched with them and was called out for a scammer if they did not)
(not true, debunked)

3. mined it all up at 10x speed anyone else could after they "fixed it"
(not true, debunked)

4. he then got so excited that he slashed the minting back by 75% so he magnified his mistakes in mining up huge amounts of the coin to super super huge
(this was actually a good call as the ltc emission rate is too inflationary)

Who is this new scammer instamined710?? I was there AT the launch I WAS THERE watching it unfold in real time.

1. it did not launch on time, however I still waited for it to launch even though he said he wasn't going to and would try later.

2. It did not launch with windows wallet. Dashers trying to lie again. Other devs that were not called scammers did launch with a windows wallet.

3. trying to split hairs again, we know there was some "accident" and it stayed on low diff with huge block rewards.

4. It was not a good idea.

what does debunked mean to this person? confirmed?

I need to update my scammers/pumpers/protectors list. This person needs to be added asap.

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Quote from: spatula on April 12, 2016, 08:18:18 PM

Now lets go the other direction and compare to a super legit crypto, like Bitcoin. My understanding is that there was a 6 day delay between genesis block and a public release of a windows client (or any client at all)

First of all the genesis block in Bitcoin is unspendable so it is really just an anchor for the chain, but second of all the genesis block is always created in advance of launch, and its timestamp is arbitrary. It has to be because it is compiled into the code. That's for every single coin.

BTW I think Bitcoin only ran on Windows at launch. Porting it to Linux came later.

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Everyone knows DASH had a shitshow launch. All your other claims are unfounded.

Really? Then why is Dash/Evan continuing to lie to investors and tell them it was "fairly and transparently" launched with recent edits to the ANN thread? I think we both know the answer.

All of my "claims", as you call them, are objective facts backed up by specific sources and citations. But maybe you are referring to someone else "unfounded claims"?

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So I end up on TPTB ignore list for asking him to stay on topic (and agreeing with the forum moderators)? I guess that just shows his true colors.

TPTB quotes his own posts more than anyone else on this forum. Perhaps he should create his own forum where he can just talk to himself all day, instead of using BCT for this purpose.

To address TPTB's statement where he wants a refute that the windows binaries were not available to show that makes DASH not a scam, I can't. We can only compare to other crypto currencies, so lets do that.

XMR? Released with a scam miner to give an unfair advantage to devs/insiders. Original XMR client had a windows version, but it had all kinds of problems. All prior to launch development done in the "darknet" by scammers (and likely the NSA)

Now lets go the other direction and compare to a super legit crypto, like Bitcoin. My understanding is that there was a 6 day delay between genesis block and a public release of a windows client (or any client at all)

Everyone knows DASH had a shitshow launch. All your other claims are unfounded.

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Lol, did you manage to type that with a straight face Smooth? Oh the hypocrisy Grin

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I love how DASH price is staying relatively stable, I didn't sell a single one. However, I sold my remaining XMR (along with anyone with a brain)

I guess that just goes to show what the market thinks about DASH. The market does not care about these competing coin trolls and their hate spewing.

The history of the DASH is out there. Everyone knows, and has already been priced in, and does not impact the future.

I think easy fiat channels to DASH are the most important thing going forward. If DASH is to be the future of online transfers of value, then we have to have an easy way for people to convert their old money to new money. I believe that credit/debit cards are the most optimal way for this to happen, but obviously chargebacks make that difficult. I know there are chargeback protection services out there that have a type of chargeback insurance, but most of those I have seen have very low monthly limits. Some chargeback protection companies also some sort of preventative protection techniques that are supposed to identify risks, and limit that type of behavior, but I'm not sure how well these work.

Perhaps DASH could use one of its budget proposals to help fund any losses of this type of service (at least initially)?

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You know you're a joke, right

Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 04:11:17 AM

Lukas_Jackson has been added to my Ignore list for his inability to write anything of truth or substance.

Low flying teddy bears alert.

i dont think TPTB_need_war like jokes or clowns or both Undecided

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Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 02:18:16 AM

Quote from: bryhardt on January 19, 2014, 12:29:16 AM

windows miner exe

so are you claiming no one else compiled the windows miner on their own?

There is no evidence either way, so let's not speculate. Clearly when people talk about Windows builds being available for launch they are talking about compiled, since most Windows users, unlike Linux users, don't have compilers or know how to use them.

The only one I recall who explicitly reported compiling it said that it didn't work, prompting Evan to make an emergency update (I'm not referring to the guy with the compile error due to his own mistake; the other one). This too was after the launch.

apology accepted Grin

and it was before the relaunch btw, saying it was after the launch is playing word games and trying to spread fud.

you're also trying to make it look like the guy with the "bazillion rejects" was evans fault and conveniently left out the full story. i just reread the thread and have no idea who this other person you are talking about having compiling problems is. it really doesn't matter, just stop, stop wasting my time and go fix me a ~~turkey pot pie~~ official GUI.

I compiled the exe for Windows... no blocks yet, just a bazillion rejects.

Quote from: bryhardt on January 19, 2014, 01:24:04 AM

Yeah, my bad, I botched the layover of the makefile on the update. Oh well still no blocks, must be in a bad location... Gave me something to do before bedtime...

Which is precisely why instamining is a scam because it doesn't not allow people to have time to figure out how to compile.

You damn well know this, but force us to say it. Obfuscation through attrition of the readers attention span is your game. Dashtards are disingenuous.

Quote from: taw00 on April 12, 2016, 10:02:08 AM

Wait. Let me get this right. Folks are claiming a Windows version of the software was not pre-compiled and made available? And they therefore yell SCAM!?! I almost snorted all my coffee out my nose over that.

Really, folks. Windows? That's your criticism? Heh.

Disingenuous bullshit obfuscation and you damn well know it.

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Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 12:29:36 AM

great article tao!
this thread looks like fun, i wanna play....

Quote from: cryptohunter on April 09, 2016, 03:01:55 PM

2. launch with no windows wallets (every other dev launched with them and was called out for a scammer if they did not)

Wait. Let me get this right. Folks are claiming a Windows version of the software was not pre-compiled and made available? And they therefore yell SCAM!?! I almost snorted all my coffee out my nose over that.

I will start a new meme: "Not released for AmigaOS!!! Amiga users were left out!!! SCAM!"

Really, folks. Windows? That's your criticism? Heh.

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Quote from: smooth on April 12, 2016, 05:29:42 AM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 09, 2016, 12:05:53 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on April 08, 2016, 05:47:05 PM

...how vertoe quit because of Dash's one-man dictatorship, etc.

Kyle Hagan (aka InternetApe) quit. Apparently vertoe is a different person. Vertoe was quoting Kyle.

Both quit.

Yes, Hagan cashed out before Dash reached $1, and is propably drunk to these days looking at his last posts on slack and dashtalk.
Vertoe quit with rage like sissy because thought to high of himself. Then went to scam people with cachecoin.

You see, those people don't fit in Dash team. We don't need drunk people without vision and scammers.
You know it.

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 09, 2016, 12:05:53 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on April 08, 2016, 05:47:05 PM

...how vertoe quit because of Dash's one-man dictatorship, etc.

Kyle Hagan (aka InternetApe) quit. Apparently vertoe is a different person. Vertoe was quoting Kyle.

Both quit.

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Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 04:11:17 AM

Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 02:18:16 AM

Quote from: bryhardt on January 19, 2014, 01:04:35 AM

windows miner exe

so are you claiming no one else compiled the windows miner on their own?

There is no evidence either way, so let's not speculate. Clearly when people talk about Windows builds being available for launch they are talking about compiled, since most Windows users, unlike Linux users, don't have compilers or know how to use them.

The only one I recall who explicitly reported compiling it said that it didn't work, prompting Evan to make an emergency update (I'm not referring to the guy with the compile error due to his own mistake; the other one). This too was after the launch.

apology accepted Grin

and it was before the relaunch btw, saying it was after the launch is playing word games and trying to spread fud.

That's incorrect, all of the posts I quoted above were after the relaunch.

update doesn't compile:

init.cpp:745:15: error: operator '!' has no right operand

(That particular error seems to have been the posters fault, not Evan's)

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Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 02:18:16 AM

Quote from: bryhardt on January 19, 2014, 12:29:16 AM

windows miner exe

so are you claiming no one else compiled the windows miner on their own?

There is no evidence either way, so let's not speculate. Clearly when people talk about Windows builds being available for launch they are talking about compiled, since most Windows users, unlike Linux users, don't have compilers or know how to use them.

The only one I recall who explicitly reported compiling it said that it didn't work, prompting Evan to make an emergency update (I'm not referring to the guy with the compile error due to his own mistake; the other one). This too was after the launch.

apology accepted Grin

and it was before the relaunch btw, saying it was after the launch is playing word games and trying to spread fud.

you're also trying to make it look like the guy with the "bazillion rejects" was evans fault and conveniently left out the full story. i just reread the thread and have no idea who this other person you are talking about having compiling problems is. it really doesn't matter, just stop, stop wasting my time and go fix me a ~~turkey pot pie~~ official GUI.

I compiled the exe for Windows... no blocks yet, just a bazillion rejects.

Quote from: bryhardt on January 19, 2014, 01:24:04 AM

Yeah, my bad, I botched the layover of the makefile on the update. Oh well still no blocks, must be in a bad location... Gave me something to do before bedtime...

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Quote from: BrainShutdown on April 12, 2016, 03:27:12 AM

Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 12, 2016, 02:18:16 AM