Topic: Data Center Mining Garage and Man Mining Cave ( PART 2 !!!!!!!!) - page 36. (Read 106682 times)

You are missing the most important part with finksy
A Psu is 40 bucks?
You can have multiple spares, all the other gear is reusable.
You can easily have backup server psu and swap them out with VERY little work/effort/down time.

With a pc psu even if you have a warranty you are looking at 30 days return, or a pricey replacement/more work to rewire a psu. so longer down time

I'm located in asia. i'm out of stock atm, let's see how things goes. yes the cables are hidden in the bars.

they are HP server 1200W Platinum PSU's. small, light weight, direct PnP & power is perfect for a 6x GPU rig even dual mining. But you will need an input of at least 208V to get 1200W (Max) if it's 110V then you will get 900W.

So you run split cable? One to riser one to gpu?

wow thats the most beautiful setup i have ever seen, what power supplies are those ?

That's asking for trouble.  Each PCIE connection for the riser can consume up to 75W each!  1 x 6 Pin cable will not be able to support that and you will melt that cable.  The max you should really be trying to split is for 2 connections.

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There's a million use for this camera.  Here's another one.  Instead of pulling out a thermometer.  I can just scan my kids to see if they're ok or is having a fever.  That's how I justify the cost with the wife.  =)

I'm wanting someone to make a pci-e to 7 pci plug adaptor. a way to neatly and easily power all the risers off a single cable.

This math is not a good example and no way it's even more expensive never mind being 2-3 times.  

4 of those Rosewill 1KW even at your Super Sales price is $480.  You really can't compare a super blow out once in a while sale but I'll use it anyway as it's an extreme example.

Finksy 4KW bundle is much less than this.  His Triple A package is $255 and includes everything you need including 30 cables, power cables, fan mount, fans, the complete deal.  Now if Finksy can get the Pico with Custom cables at $25-30 x 4 that's up to a Max of $120.  So your total price is $375.  Way cheaper than your extreme example.  



***** The MORE ACCURATE Comparison ***********

Most people are not powering just 470s or as efficient with undervolting as you Marvell.  You simply can't push 7 x 480 on a 1KW nor would you be able to do 6 x Furies, 5 x 390, Vegas, yadda yadda.  So a more accurate comparison is against 4 x EVGA 1300 which normally sell for $200-235 after tax.  Let's not count Black Friday SUPER Sales or 1 offs, let's compare average selling price, the what does it cost if I need NOW... .  We're then talking easily over $1K of PSU and they're not future proof if your rig requires more than 1000-1300w which means now have double the cost for each rig with 2 PSU and an even uglier Bird's nest in the rear blocking flow.  

Don't forget even if you don't choose the 4KW bundle, and chose YSLUNG HP 1200W server PSU for separate individual controls, it's still much cheaper and you're getting Enterprise server PSU compare to consumer grade ATX.  Of course the ATX comes with better resell value and warranty which is a plus but the server PSU is so cheap, you can buy plenty of extra spares and still have money left over for Dinner and a movie with the entire family.  Also you don't have to leave your rig down for a few weeks waiting for that dead Rosewill RMA.  Spare server PSUs are like $18-45 depending on whether you're choosing HP or IBM so you can do your own immediate Warranty maintenance.   Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of places where ATX make sense like my Server case rigs but that may change in the future as well.

This is why I'm pushing hard on Finksy, Hawkfish and YSLUNG to get us GOOD PICOs for reasonable price of below $30.  If it's at $50 and above, the value proposition drops a lot.  However, wait until you see the CRAZY designs I'm going to be coming up with that is only made POSSIBLE by HAWKFISH007 PCI risers and PICOs.  IT will be BAD ass and something very unique making even pricey Picos worth it.   You also lose the Birds nest of ATX PSU and cables in the rear blocking  flow..... ...............Stay Tune...............

Three Different Designs

1) Server PSU w Picos for Server Case
2) A Standing Tower Rig
3) The most compact RISER powered stacking Rig

the issue though with this setup is you can buy platinum roswil platinum 1k PSU's for $120 right now brand new with 5 year warranty
I have around 10 6 gpu rigs running this setup with no problems only had one die on me.

The finsky solution along with all the cables and the mother board adapaters could ealy cost 2-3 times the cost of buying normal PSU's

the issue though with this setup is you can buy platinum roswil platinum 1k PSU's for $120 right now brand new with 5 year warranty
I have around 10 6 gpu rigs running this setup with no problems only had one die on me.

The finsky solution along with all the cables and the mother board adapaters could ealy cost 2-3 times the cost of buying normal PSU's

@ m1n1ngP4d4w4n - The MSI is a different beast.  That link might come in handy for me though as I was looking at other FUN MB options last night since I have all these LGA 1151 CPUs and a few DDR4 RAM chip last night so I decided to get a MSI Gaming Pro Carbon used on Amazon.  

@ Cryptowatcher - I'm ordering all the supplies you need my friend, it's in my Amazon Cart ready to ship to you.  Let's make it happen.  I see endless opportunities if you can make those cables for me.


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Finksy's version will be SEXIER and more POWERFUL.  This is just to give everyone an idea of how PICOs work with the Server PSU.  In order for Finksy to get us attractive prices, he have to buy in good volumes.  This is where I urged Hawkfish to partner up with Finksy to make this happen.  It's not part of their core business so both of them don't want to be stuck with huge inventory of these things.  I said "DO IT FOR THE COMMUNITY, there WILL BE a huge demand for it once people understand the value it brings.

The goal is to get a complete turn key solution including all custom cables for around $30 while saving everyone from the headache of buying crappier / more expensive solution like I did and then hunt for specialized cables since the PICO was designed for mini PC not mining rigs.

Why a standard PICO PSU won't work for us
* The CPU cable won't reach a normal Motherboard CPU slot.  
* It requires an expensive and Bulky AC power adaptor.  Who needs another thing to plug in or waste another outlet?
* It will require a custom 6 Pin to 2.5MM barrel cable to power the Pico if you dont want to use the AC adapter and power it via server PSU
* It will require a 6 pin to 4+4 ( pin EPS CPU cable if you want to make it 100% server PSU powering or a 4 pin to 4+4 (8)Pin EPS cable if you want the PICO to power the CPU.  

What I got from Ebay

$40 for this weak 80W combo with no cables that I need.  I still had to go and find the EPS cable for $10 on Amazon and it was very difficult to get the 6 pin to 2.5MM barrel adapter cable.  I ordered 2 different version and only 1 worked.  More money wasted.  This is NOT the Pico you want.  





6 Pin PCI to 2.5MM barrel adapter to power the PICO via server PSU.  Another cable was used to power the CPU via the server 6 Pin to 8 Pin EPS.  This waste 2 valuable PCI slot from the server PSU breakout board.







WHAT WE WANT................
Who wants to search on Ebay for separate items just to wait a month from China, overpay and get wrong stuff like I did?  No one.  I had to do many trial and errors and the complete solution worked and is better than the above but still not cost effective nor SEXY as I want it.  We want 1 solution that is tested and have everything so there is no guessing game.  We at least 160W of Pico power for the same price as 80W.  We want to use 1 6pin cable that splits and power the PICO and can also power the CPU.  This will reduce the PCI slot wasted per rig.  Most importantly, we WANT IT CHEAPER!

WHY WE WANT PICOs.

* It's super Compact and sexy.  The entire PSU is just a the size of your MB plug adapter.  You hardly see the thing once it's plug into the MB slot.  I purposely left the cables outside just so you can spot the PICO!  If I hide it's tiny 4 pin CPU and SATA cable, you won't be realized a PICO PSU is plugged in.



* It's very cost effective if we can get it for $30.  You can't get a quality baby ATX PSU for under $50 raising your cost per RIG
* Less Cable clutters and space needed in the rear.  This help improve air flow and cable management



Picture Powering 4-5 x 6 GPU rigs this solution easily when paired with Finksy 4kw PSU bundle.  SO FRESH FRESH...........SO CLEAN CLEAN!



NOW HERE IS THE KEY WHY YOU SHOULD want it.  On top of being SEXY, Cost effective per RIG, you now move 98% of your Power load to the more efficient GOLD to Platinum rated Server PSU.  These things are TANKS and are designed to be run for years 24x7 vs consumer grade ATX which are not.  When you're using the old way with 4-5 Baby PSU, those are generally cheapy 80+ or less efficiency so this solution pays for itself very quickly via the efficiency.  P.M Finksy and Hawkfish and tell them.  WE WANT PICOs.............WE WANT PICOs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

very nice & clean setup, are you inserting some cables into your tubes or they're just attached ? would love some more pics hehe. Awaiting you pico's too, they sound really nice. where are you located ysly ? kinda bad for me to order from US :/ would love to find nice product from EU 

@yslyung - won't release prices until someone else does for the pico... not holding my breath

@Yun where can I buy the best risers? can't find a source.

it was already there but got "deleted" anyway here it is, as i mentioned before i'm not a fan of messy setup.



all cables are hooked up ! except for CPU was waiting for stock to arrive.

@yslyung - won't release prices until someone else does for the pico... not holding my breath

@Yun where can I buy the best risers? can't find a source.

that setup looks quite nice already, with a little refinement and bit of cable management but is totally a sweet start! ive got some great idea's for a pico setup, i just need to grab me a 1200w server grade psu with breakout board and a pico psu so i would be able to test power cables to make this setup clean and sexy looking! LETS MAKE SOME SEXY PICO RIGS! WHOOO!!!

@ m1n1ngP4d4w4n - The MSI is a different beast.  That link might come in handy for me though as I was looking at other FUN MB options last night since I have all these LGA 1151 CPUs and a few DDR4 RAM chip last night so I decided to get a MSI Gaming Pro Carbon used on Amazon.  

@ Cryptowatcher - I'm ordering all the supplies you need my friend, it's in my Amazon Cart ready to ship to you.  Let's make it happen.  I see endless opportunities if you can make those cables for me.


************PICO PSU*****************************************

Finksy's version will be SEXIER and more POWERFUL.  This is just to give everyone an idea of how PICOs work with the Server PSU.  In order for Finksy to get us attractive prices, he have to buy in good volumes.  This is where I urged Hawkfish to partner up with Finksy to make this happen.  It's not part of their core business so both of them don't want to be stuck with huge inventory of these things.  I said "DO IT FOR THE COMMUNITY, there WILL BE a huge demand for it once people understand the value it brings.

The goal is to get a complete turn key solution including all custom cables for around $30 while saving everyone from the headache of buying crappier / more expensive solution like I did and then hunt for specialized cables since the PICO was designed for mini PC not mining rigs.

Why a standard PICO PSU won't work for us
* The CPU cable won't reach a normal Motherboard CPU slot.  
* It requires an expensive and Bulky AC power adaptor.  Who needs another thing to plug in or waste another outlet?
* It will require a custom 6 Pin to 2.5MM barrel cable to power the Pico if you dont want to use the AC adapter and power it via server PSU
* It will require a 6 pin to 4+4 ( pin EPS CPU cable if you want to make it 100% server PSU powering or a 4 pin to 4+4 (8)Pin EPS cable if you want the PICO to power the CPU.  

What I got from Ebay

$40 for this weak 80W combo with no cables that I need.  I still had to go and find the EPS cable for $10 on Amazon and it was very difficult to get the 6 pin to 2.5MM barrel adapter cable.  I ordered 2 different version and only 1 worked.  More money wasted.  This is NOT the Pico you want.  





6 Pin PCI to 2.5MM barrel adapter to power the PICO via server PSU.  Another cable was used to power the CPU via the server 6 Pin to 8 Pin EPS.  This waste 2 valuable PCI slot from the server PSU breakout board.







WHAT WE WANT................
Who wants to search on Ebay for separate items just to wait a month from China, overpay and get wrong stuff like I did?  No one.  I had to do many trial and errors and the complete solution worked and is better than the above but still not cost effective nor SEXY as I want it.  We want 1 solution that is tested and have everything so there is no guessing game.  We at least 160W of Pico power for the same price as 80W.  We want to use 1 6pin cable that splits and power the PICO and can also power the CPU.  This will reduce the PCI slot wasted per rig.  Most importantly, we WANT IT CHEAPER!

WHY WE WANT PICOs.

* It's super Compact and sexy.  The entire PSU is just a the size of your MB plug adapter.  You hardly see the thing once it's plug into the MB slot.  I purposely left the cables outside just so you can spot the PICO!  If I hide it's tiny 4 pin CPU and SATA cable, you won't be realized a PICO PSU is plugged in.



* It's very cost effective if we can get it for $30.  You can't get a quality baby ATX PSU for under $50 raising your cost per RIG
* Less Cable clutters and space needed in the rear.  This help improve air flow and cable management



Picture Powering 4-5 x 6 GPU rigs this solution easily when paired with Finksy 4kw PSU bundle.  SO FRESH FRESH...........SO CLEAN CLEAN!



NOW HERE IS THE KEY WHY YOU SHOULD want it.  On top of being SEXY, Cost effective per RIG, you now move 98% of your Power load to the more efficient GOLD to Platinum rated Server PSU.  These things are TANKS and are designed to be run for years 24x7 vs consumer grade ATX which are not.  When you're using the old way with 4-5 Baby PSU, those are generally cheapy 80+ or less efficiency so this solution pays for itself very quickly via the efficiency.  P.M Finksy and Hawkfish and tell them.  WE WANT PICOs.............WE WANT PICOs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!