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Quote from: VeeMiner on September 10, 2013, 09:13:30 AM

there must be some mistake on http://blockchain.info/pools cause deepbit is definitely not 12 percent of the network

blockchain.info is a private business, there is no money in providing accurate stats - there is even a thread stickied in the parent forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dont-believe-everything-you-read-on-blockchaininfo-about-block-sources-123726
the guy that does http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php does care - well worth looking at

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there must be some mistake on http://blockchain.info/pools cause deepbit is definitely not 12 percent of the network

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Quote from: -ck on September 04, 2013, 09:15:44 AM

Quote from: thefunkybits on September 04, 2013, 02:29:51 AM

I dont understand how this pool has such a big piece of the network with a 3% fee??

It must be worth it somehow?

Deepbit predates many other modern pools. Historically during a major boom in bitcoin price when a lot of other pools struggled with the sudden demand for more miners combined with loads of DDoS attacks on the pools, this pool was just about the only pool able to withstand the greater demand and showed a level of stability that was unparalleled so it attracted a great proportion of miners despite the higher fees. However, that's history now and the bitcoin mining landscape is completely utterly unrecognisable from those days... but this pool remains virtually unchanged from what it was in those days in fees and features.

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he shall return

goodbye deepbit

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Quote from: Jayjay04 on September 03, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

How can this pool be only at 3700 GH/s and find 17% of all blocks ?!?!
What is the real Hashrate of this pool ?

use http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php for blocks

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Quote from: thefunkybits on September 04, 2013, 02:29:51 AM

I dont understand how this pool has such a big piece of the network with a 3% fee??

It must be worth it somehow?

Deepbit predates many other modern pools. Historically during a major boom in bitcoin price when a lot of other pools struggled with the sudden demand for more miners combined with loads of DDoS attacks on the pools, this pool was just about the only pool able to withstand the greater demand and showed a level of stability that was unparalleled so it attracted a great proportion of miners despite the higher fees. However, that's history now and the bitcoin mining landscape is completely utterly unrecognisable from those days... but this pool remains virtually unchanged from what it was in those days in fees and features.

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Quote from: thefunkybits on September 04, 2013, 02:29:51 AM

I dont understand how this pool has such a big piece of the network with a 3% fee??

It must be worth it somehow?

This pool currently has a very small proportion of the network, something like a fifth of a percent. Also, I think three percent is an acceptable sized fee for a non-PPS reward method. Many pools without fees have failed before now, some more spectacularly than others.

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Quote from: thefunkybits on September 04, 2013, 02:29:51 AM

I dont understand how this pool has such a big piece of the network with a 3% fee??

It must be worth it somehow?

PPS is 10% fee IIRC. Prop is 3.5%

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I dont understand how this pool has such a big piece of the network with a 3% fee??

It must be worth it somehow?

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Quote from: eleuthria on September 03, 2013, 04:51:40 PM

Quote from: Jayjay04 on September 03, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

How can this pool be only at 3700 GH/s and find 17% of all blocks ?!?!
What is the real Hashrate of this pool ?

You need to stop relying on blockchain.info for identifying blocks. They have -never- had Deepbit's blocks correctly identified since the day they made that pie chart.

At least it's not the same person asking the same question on the same page.

Still doesn't say much.

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Quote from: Jayjay04 on September 03, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

How can this pool be only at 3700 GH/s and find 17% of all blocks ?!?!
What is the real Hashrate of this pool ?

You need to stop relying on blockchain.info for identifying blocks. They have -never- had Deepbit's blocks correctly identified since the day they made that pie chart.

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Quote from: Jayjay04 on September 03, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

How can this pool be only at 3700 GH/s and find 17% of all blocks ?!?!
What is the real Hashrate of this pool ?

This pool is 1552 Gh/s.

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How can this pool be only at 3700 GH/s and find 17% of all blocks ?!?!
What is the real Hashrate of this pool ?

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Quote from: millsdmb on August 29, 2013, 12:12:01 PM

Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:04:56 AM

Quote from: eleuthria on August 29, 2013, 11:03:06 AM

Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:00:52 AM

I have a question, why is deepbit at 11% of the bitcoin network? the hashrate is very low on the pool site but it shows that deepbit is solving blocks faster than 50btc....

Deepbit doesn't tag any blocks to allow sites to properly identify them. At the time blockchain.info was designed, the vast majority of blocks with no tag did belong to Deepbit [which was 30-40% of the network at the time]. As a result, there is still some legacy code in there that has an extremely high false positive rate where it credits Deepbit for blocks. These days, a huge number of blocks showing up as Deepbit actually belong to ghash.io (BitFury).

That that makes sense now that you explain it to me. thanks

is deepbit still around on bitcointalk?

Tycho, posting above, is deepbit.

Oh then why isn't he using the "deepbit" account?

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Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:04:56 AM

is deepbit still around on bitcointalk?

Yes.

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Quote from: eleuthria on August 29, 2013, 03:53:32 PM

Quote from: Gyrsur on August 29, 2013, 02:51:51 PM

Quote from: eleuthria on August 29, 2013, 11:03:06 AM

Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:00:52 AM

I have a question, why is deepbit at 11% of the bitcoin network? the hashrate is very low on the pool site but it shows that deepbit is solving blocks faster than 50btc....

Deepbit doesn't tag any blocks to allow sites to properly identify them. At the time blockchain.info was designed, the vast majority of blocks with no tag did belong to Deepbit [which was 30-40% of the network at the time]. As a result, there is still some legacy code in there that has an extremely high false positive rate where it credits Deepbit for blocks.

I agree with the statement from Blockchain reported Deepbit blocks are not all solved by Deepbit. But if there is a piece of code which reports all untaged blocks as Deepbit blocks then we should not see any solominer blocks which is not true. There are also untaged blocks from solominers reported.

My guess is Deepbit is very well connected within the network it's like a supernode and relay only so many blocks fom others with IP addresses which are known as Deepbit IP addresses.

Deepbit is on hetzner, they're not anywhere near what would be called a "supernode". Best guess is there's simply a *huge* number of IPs which blockchain.info automatically assigns as "Deepbit" due to the number of Deepbit blocks that used to be relayed through them frequently.

nearly all (90%+ ?) of the blocks that say Deepbit originate from my node, 5.9.24.81

a lot of them are p2pool blocks

ed: oh, and ozcoin too. ozcoin blocks are actually tagged, not sure why it doesn't mark them as such. the rest are probably the iohash or w/e you mentioned (and a few solo miners maybe)

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Quote from: Gyrsur on August 29, 2013, 02:51:51 PM

Quote from: eleuthria on August 29, 2013, 11:03:06 AM

Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:00:52 AM

I have a question, why is deepbit at 11% of the bitcoin network? the hashrate is very low on the pool site but it shows that deepbit is solving blocks faster than 50btc....

Deepbit doesn't tag any blocks to allow sites to properly identify them. At the time blockchain.info was designed, the vast majority of blocks with no tag did belong to Deepbit [which was 30-40% of the network at the time]. As a result, there is still some legacy code in there that has an extremely high false positive rate where it credits Deepbit for blocks.

I agree with the statement from Blockchain reported Deepbit blocks are not all solved by Deepbit. But if there is a piece of code which reports all untaged blocks as Deepbit blocks then we should not see any solominer blocks which is not true. There are also untaged blocks from solominers reported.

My guess is Deepbit is very well connected within the network it's like a supernode and relay only so many blocks fom others with IP addresses which are known as Deepbit IP addresses.

Deepbit is on hetzner, they're not anywhere near what would be called a "supernode". Best guess is there's simply a *huge* number of IPs which blockchain.info automatically assigns as "Deepbit" due to the number of Deepbit blocks that used to be relayed through them frequently.

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Quote from: eleuthria on August 29, 2013, 11:03:06 AM

Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:00:52 AM

I have a question, why is deepbit at 11% of the bitcoin network? the hashrate is very low on the pool site but it shows that deepbit is solving blocks faster than 50btc....

Deepbit doesn't tag any blocks to allow sites to properly identify them. At the time blockchain.info was designed, the vast majority of blocks with no tag did belong to Deepbit [which was 30-40% of the network at the time]. As a result, there is still some legacy code in there that has an extremely high false positive rate where it credits Deepbit for blocks.

I agree with the statement from Blockchain reported Deepbit blocks are not all solved by Deepbit. But if there is a piece of code which reports all untaged blocks as Deepbit blocks then we should not see any solominer blocks which is not true. There are also untaged blocks from solominers reported.

My guess is Deepbit is very well connected within the network it's like a supernode and relay only so many blocks fom others with IP addresses which are known as Deepbit IP addresses.

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Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:04:56 AM

Quote from: eleuthria on August 29, 2013, 11:03:06 AM

Quote from: EasyQuest on August 29, 2013, 11:00:52 AM

I have a question, why is deepbit at 11% of the bitcoin network? the hashrate is very low on the pool site but it shows that deepbit is solving blocks faster than 50btc....

Deepbit doesn't tag any blocks to allow sites to properly identify them. At the time blockchain.info was designed, the vast majority of blocks with no tag did belong to Deepbit [which was 30-40% of the network at the time]. As a result, there is still some legacy code in there that has an extremely high false positive rate where it credits Deepbit for blocks. These days, a huge number of blocks showing up as Deepbit actually belong to ghash.io (BitFury).

That that makes sense now that you explain it to me. thanks

is deepbit still around on bitcointalk?

Tycho, posting above, is deepbit.

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